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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:56am On Oct 17, 2021
Women grin grin
so can we count ths as progress or what !... cheesy

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:57am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Why doesnt Mauritus or Rwanda pain me? I telling your the truth you do not want to hear. Your country is dealing with serious structural and systemic issues that wont be easy to solve.
1) Income Inequality - the World Worst - by far.
2) Poor education - poorer than even Ghana!
3) Immigration - 10M illegal immigrants from mostly Zim that doesnt look likely to fix their mess.
All that is manifesting in xenophobias, riots and crime - and of course out migration of skilled labour -
if Ghana and SA have poor education... Have you asked yourself how poorer that of Kenya is, since SA and Ghana turn to come out with the best education systems to represent Sub Saharan Africa on the global stage in all things education?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:58am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
You can almost see a direct correlation with quality of education..

Most of ths countries are on the east or south... wonder why cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:00am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Informal sector=poverty. Kenya also has big informal sector - but we are trying to formalize them - by growing them to become enterprise.

I dont know if you have improved - I have seen data that your private sector employs only 300k (2007 data) - while Kenya private sector is approaching 3m.

You need to grow your formal private sector.


You are not making sense here.
Since you started with the formalization *how is market naw*? How many Kenyans have you taken out of poverty? give us the stats.

Finish with your formalization, get results first then come and tell us those nonsense you typed up there.

Mind you, Kenya has more poorer people than Ghana so stop making Ghana your headache.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:01am On Oct 17, 2021
jl115:
Mauritius is a tiny little island bru with little over a million citizens....granted they have done very well, but let's compare apples with apples.

Also according to the IMF our gdp nominal is now $415 bil divide that by 60.5 million then we get a gdp per capita of nearly $7000 while Kenya is still at $2200

Did I mention our economy is projected to out grow yours in 2021?
hey poacher, leave Mauritius alone..its a nice place with nice things..better than a place i know ..dont be a jealous Boer..kapish cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 10:01am On Oct 17, 2021
Just30:
let me explain to you..

At the upper income poverty line of 5.50 dollars, the poverty rate increase to 90% for Kenya...
This means that only 5 million people in Kenya are at the comfortable middle class.

And we all know that those people are mostly foreigners to the 90th percentile.

To be diverse, your economy must create a trickle down effect.

Even if we use the middle income line of 3.20 dollars per day which is currently used in Ghana, the poverty rate is still as high as 70% for Kenya...

Which means only between 15 and 18 million Kenyans will find themselves in the shaky middle class.

grin I don't have a background in Economics maybe thats why am still lost.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:02am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
16M paying taxes less than Uganda - 6B dollars?
We have made a conscious effort not to tax our businesses out of existence so that businesses can keep more of their profits which turn to have a greater trickle down effect than taxation will have...

Thanks to Prof Atta Mills, the tax expert, we know this.

Less Taxation is the principal reason why Ghanaians are better off than Kenyans and living greater quality of lives.

We have focus more on indirect taxes which is a fairer way to tax both the rich and poor base of their economic power to spend.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:04am On Oct 17, 2021
Just30:
We have made a conscious effort not to tax our businesses out of existence so that businesses can keep more of their profits which turn to have a greater trickle down effect than taxation will have...

Thanks to Prof Atta Mills, the tax expert, we know this.

Less Taxation is the principal reason why Ghanaians are better off than Kenyans and living greater quality of lives.

We have focus more on indirect taxes which is a fairer way to tax both the rich and poor base of their economic power to spend.

Ghana is depended on mineral export...whatever ya tax is pointless here... cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:04am On Oct 17, 2021
It mostly how much each gov spend on education. Countries that suceed spend a lot on education. Countries in West and Central Africa - spend very little - in their notorious low budget. Kenya for example use to out spend anyone in education in africa in 70s and 80s - that explain historical high quality of education - but now smaller serious countries invest a lot more.

mtisTheQubit:


Most of ths countries are on the east or south... wonder why cheesy

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:05am On Oct 17, 2021
NTSA:

grin I don't have a background in Economics maybe thats why am still lost.
good

Take it to your professor and ask for explanation
He will explain what economic reach is and what the trickle down effect is

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:05am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
It mostly how much each gov spend on education. Countries that suceed spend a lot on education. Countries in West and Central Africa - spend very little - in their notorious low budget.

I think ths Mineral stuff is kinda a curse in a way... grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:06am On Oct 17, 2021
mtisTheQubit:


Ghana is depended on mineral export...whatever ya tax is pointless here... cheesy
unfortunately Ghana economy is not dependent on mineral export and neither is Ghana ..

Ghana is solely dependent on the service sector and this is why Ghana is not in trouble even when minerals are trading for less.

Too bad Kenya is an agrarian economy and highly dependent on it...
See how just corona has dealt a massive blow to your country..


I predicted it 4 to 5 years ago

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:07am On Oct 17, 2021
Yes natural resources can be a curse...instead of a blessing. Then you have south africa apertheid where black schools look like this
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbvTNgnXgAAGVY5?format=jpg&name=small[/img]

Kenya uses to spend 25 percent of its gov budget on education - but now it's falling every year.

mtisTheQubit:


I think ths Mineral stuff is kinda a curse in a way... grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:08am On Oct 17, 2021
The irony ... cheesy grin

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:08am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Why doesnt Mauritus or Rwanda pain me? I telling your the truth you do not want to hear. Your country is dealing with serious structural and systemic issues that wont be easy to solve.
1) Income Inequality - the World Worst - by far.
2) Poor education - poorer than even Ghana!
3) Immigration - 10M illegal immigrants from mostly Zim that doesnt look likely to fix their mess.
All that is manifesting in xenophobias, riots and crime - and of course out migration of skilled labour -

Rwanda is very poor, not developed at all

Mauritius population is under 1m
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:09am On Oct 17, 2021
Abohboy:


It will be soon
cool story bro
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:09am On Oct 17, 2021
Just30:
unfortunately Ghana economy is not dependent on mineral export and neither is Ghana ..

Ghana is solely dependent on the service sector and this is why Ghana is not in trouble even when minerals are trading for less.


ooh please... grin

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:10am On Oct 17, 2021
They are making huge strides forward. South Africa isnt.
AfriqueDuZuid:


Rwanda is very poor, not developed at all

Mauritius population is under 1m
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:11am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
You're lucky the commodities rallied and your rand recovered. We would be talking about 250B dollars. Yes my shocking maths is telling me Kenya gdp per capita is growing very fast...while South Africa is struck...and I do not see any change that would make you escape middle income trap.

If you want to understand what's going on in your country - watch this video of South America - that is plagued by say middle class trap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udwo3DnMZ6I

we are stuck but are projected to out grow Kenya this year grin grin grin

Also incase you forgot:

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:11am On Oct 17, 2021
rvp2018:
It mostly how much each gov spend on education. Countries that suceed spend a lot on education. Countries in West and Central Africa - spend very little - in their notorious low budget. Kenya for example use to out spend anyone in education in africa in 70s and 80s - that explain historical high quality of education - but now smaller serious countries invest a lot more.


Yet still your citizens can't perform better than their counterparts from West and Central Africa in anything..

It seems you guys are wasting money

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:12am On Oct 17, 2021
mtisTheQubit:


ooh please... grin
I guess you don't know what economic dependence is
The remaining 40% of my export is still almost twice that of your country

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:13am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Yes natural resources can be a curse...instead of a blessing. Then you have south africa apertheid where black schools look like this
[img]
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbvTNgnXgAAGVY5?format=jpg&name=small
[/img]

Kenya uses to spend 25 percent of its gov budget on education - but now it's falling every year.


You mean ths is SA lipsrsealed

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:14am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
They are making huge strides forward. South Africa isnt.

What are they making?

Let's start with Rwanda
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:15am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Why doesnt Mauritus or Rwanda pain me? I telling your the truth you do not want to hear. Your country is dealing with serious structural and systemic issues that wont be easy to solve.
1) Income Inequality - the World Worst - by far.
2) Poor education - poorer than even Ghana
3) Immigration - 10M illegal immigrants from mostly Zim that doesnt look likely to fix their mess.
All that is manifesting in xenophobias, riots and crime - and of course out migration of skilled labour -
you good bro?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-for-education

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country

FYI even with our inequality we still have much less poverty than Kenya... Not to mention the average black SAn is several times more wealthy than the average Kenyan
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:17am On Oct 17, 2021
Just30:
I guess you don't know what economic dependence is
The remaining 40% of my export is still almost twice that of your country

44+18+14=? bro .. simple maths
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:19am On Oct 17, 2021
Yes - that is a middle income South Africa - that doesnt prioritize education - and when it get stuck in a middle class rut - thinks I am hating on them.
mtisTheQubit:


You mean ths is SA lipsrsealed

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 10:19am On Oct 17, 2021
NTSA:

True to that ...but a simple Google search shows me that At one point in 2008 Nigeria had surpassed South Africa by 50 billion the following years the gap between Nigeria and South Africa was not so much.

Oh didn't realize that
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Abohboy: 10:20am On Oct 17, 2021
jl115:
cool story bro

Thanks man
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:21am On Oct 17, 2021
mtisTheQubit:

hey poacher, leave Mauritius alone..its a nice place with nice things..better than a place i know ..dont be a jealous Boer..kapish cheesy
I wasn't the one that brought up Mauritius now was I?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:21am On Oct 17, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Yes - that is a middle income South Africa - that doesnt prioritize education - and when it get stuck in a middle class rut - thinks I am hating on them.
It's no surprise that even the Boer has begun to compare slums. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:21am On Oct 17, 2021
Literacy will not make you become developed country. That is just enough to make your a middle income country. To get the next level - then you need to start thinking of acing the PISAs and such assessment - meaning your kids are getting very high quality education - that imparts the neccesary skills for the next level - of high productivity.

jl115:
you good bro?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-countries-for-education

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country

FYI even with our inequality we still have much less poverty than Kenya... Not to mention the average black SAn is several times more wealthy than the average Kenyan

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 10:22am On Oct 17, 2021
lipsrsealed
Just30:
good

Take it to your professor and ask for explanation
He will explain what economic reach is and what the trickle down effect is
grin grin South Africas economic growth over the years isn't very impressive ..1990 SA was already past 100billion dollars 30 yrs later they are at 301 billion.( Considering the head start they had due to Aperthaid).
I would love to see how your theories worked for or against Their economic growth grin

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