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Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 6:34pm On Mar 21, 2021
The NBS been taken a hiatus 3 year hiatus from publishing crime stats. It's troubling they would neglect an important indicator like this since this is one method the public would use accurately judge security. Politicians make unsubstantiated claims saying security is improving or worsening year to year in absence of relevant stats to cite. Why would the NBS stop publishing these stats when the police have to keep track of reported crimes?

The issue is even worse when you observe the published crime stats are always lazily done. The stats only report aggregate crimes instead of doing it by per capita basis. Doing it this way doesn't factor in population which why crime stats are supposed to reported on a per 100k basis. The last measure the NBS could improve is actually reporting victimization rates by tribe, perpetrator by tribe, and if they're foreigners. Reporting race is pretty common in a lot of countries but since 99.9 of Nigerians are same race that would be pointless.

The 2020 crime stats is supposed to be published this year. It's doubtful they would be able to make all the changes immediately but they can do per capita stats. Nigeria should strive to have decent crime stats like South Africa. If you have other suggestions for NBS post below.

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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 2:28pm On Mar 22, 2021
NBS could improve is actually reported victimization rates by tribe, perpetrator by tribe, and if they're foreigners.

NBS should report on tribal breakdown if crime. This would help the public understand if certain ethic groups are disportionally committing crime. The media coverage fulani criminality has been a major topic but the public doesnt have the numbers. The victimization report will also let us know who is aggressing on who. That should have a tribal component, along with the usual age and sex.

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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by EzeNri(m): 2:32pm On Mar 22, 2021
Yemi Kwale's interest is falsifying data and smuggling Osun above their level.

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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 2:55pm On Mar 22, 2021
EzeNri:
Yemi Kwale's interest is falsifying data and smuggling Osun above their level.

That actually segways nicely into another point. If you actually believe Nigerias crime stats for any year you would believe nice is as safe as some European countries because only 3219 people were murdered in 2017. The UN survey done with NBS reported a much high figure. I dont think most sane people really believe Nigeria is as safe as Luxembourg.

Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 2:17pm On Apr 28, 2021
Lol it seems people are interested in crime rates all of a sudden. It's so weird Nigerians are so uninterested in vital statistics like crime. I honestly wonder why culturally people within the country aren't interested in quantifying these sort of things.


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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by omohayek: 3:26pm On Apr 28, 2021
Blue3k:
Lol it seems people are interested in crime rates all of a sudden. It's so weird Nigerians are so uninterested in vital statistics like crime. I honestly wonder why culturally people with the country aren't interested in quantifying these sort of things.
Because they can't conceive of statistics as being about objective facts about the real world, rather than merely being useful tools in the never-ending inter-tribal struggle that is Nigerian "politics". That's why few have any qualms about lying shamelessly about even the most well-verified data.

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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 7:31pm On Apr 28, 2021
omohayek:

Because they can't conceive of statistics as being about objective facts about the real world, rather than merely being useful tools in the never-ending inter-tribal struggle that is Nigerian "politics". That's why few have any qualms about lying shamelessly about even the most well-verified data.

Lol it could help further their inter tribal narratives if they did publish stats I suggested. Demographic x commits all these crimes disproportionately therefore group x bad. If they do publish the stats I do wonder if it would be as crazy as the US crime stats. In the US 2020 was the most violent time since the 1990's with at least 20k murders making it 6 per 100k murder rate. Alot big cities have murder up 30%.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by omohayek: 7:54pm On Apr 28, 2021
Blue3k:


Lol it could help further their inter tribal narratives if they did publish stats I suggested. Demographic x commits all these crimes disproportionately therefore group x bad. If they do publish the stats I do wonder if it would be as crazy as the US crime stats. In the US 2020 was the most violent time since the 1990's with at least 20k murders making it 6 per 100k murder rate. Alot big cities have murder up 30%.
For this to happen, though, two very unlikely conditions would have to hold, namely

1. That each of the state governments would even bother to collect accurate statistics, assuming they even have the necessary capabilities in terms of workforce skills (I doubt there are many statisticians on state government payrolls).
2. That they would trust each other enough to publish the true data they collected, rather than cooking up flattering lies on the assumption everyone else will lie as well (prisoner's dilemma). Just look at the 1963 and 1973 censuses, as examples of how bad things can get.

I don't see either of these things happening any time soon, at least not through official government channels - nobody trusts anyone else, and the urge to "weaponize" such information is simply too strong. The best that can probably be hoped for is what NGOs like BudgIT or the usual international bodies (IMF, WHO, UNICEF, etc.) are able to execute.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 8:09pm On May 01, 2021
omohayek:

For this to happen, though, two very unlikely conditions would have to hold, namely

1. That each of the state governments would even bother to collect accurate statistics, assuming they even have the necessary capabilities in terms of workforce skills (I doubt there are many statisticians on state government payrolls).
2. That they would trust each other enough to publish the true data they collected, rather than cooking up flattering lies on the assumption everyone else will lie as well (prisoner's dilemma). Just look at the 1963 and 1973 censuses, as examples of how bad things can get.

I don't see either of these things happening any time soon, at least not through official government channels - nobody trusts anyone else, and the urge to "weaponize" such information is simply too strong. The best that can probably be hoped for is what NGOs like BudgIT or the usual international bodies (IMF, WHO, UNICEF, etc.) are able to execute.

1. It's the the FG that collects the stats through Police and NBS. The states shouldn't be able to skew them until policing is Decentralized. The stats will probably just be largely ignored when inconvenient like state unemployment rate.

2. If you lie too much it gets harder for these agencies to justify increases to their budget. E.g of its safe as you say it is why do you need more funds to buy more weapons and higher people? Why does your state need more security vote funds if there's no trouble.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 5:51pm On May 31, 2021
Garbage Shehu just declared SW the safest part of Nigeria. The funniest thing about his statement is that it not quantified and nobody asked why. Its so weird how people who haven't seen the government release crime stats in so many years dont questions these basic claims.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 1:28am On Oct 20, 2021
Lol Garba Shehu is out here asking the media to spread propaganda for him. Lol its funny how these claims are never quantified. If they're really interested in proving this they'd just show us how they year to year decline in crime. That in self would require they stop publishing these sloppy crime stats.

The President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.), has urged the media to address the tone, content, and standards of reporting into security and safety measures.

In a statement signed by the Senior Special Assistant to the President on Media and Publicity, Garba Shehu, on Monday, Buhari said the term “rising insecurity” should be replaced with the “reality of declining insecurity.”

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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by helinues: 5:15am On Oct 20, 2021
Nothing like neglecting but deliberate act.

Medias have been warned
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by helinues: 5:16am On Oct 20, 2021
Blue3k:
Garbage Shehu just declared SW the safest part of Nigeria. The funniest thing about his statement is that it not quantified and nobody asked why. Its so weird how people who haven't seen the government release crime stats in so many years dont questions these basic claims.

Though statistics could make the statement more valid but that's still logical
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 5:50am On Oct 20, 2021
helinues:


Though statistics could make the statement more valid but that's still logical

Its just an unsubstantiated opinion from a known liar. He's also claiming the crime rate is going down and asking the media to spread propaganda for him. All everyone is going by is newspaper reports. If either claim is true it can easily be proven with the crime stats they have refused to release.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by helinues: 5:56am On Oct 20, 2021
Blue3k:


Its just an unsubstantiated opinion from a known liar. He's also claiming the crime rate is going down and asking the media to spread propaganda for him. All everyone is going by is newspaper reports. If either claim is true it can easily be proven with the crime stats they have refused to release.

Logically , SW is the most peaceful region currently in Nigeria.

Mr Lai may be known as a liar , but this, he got it right with or without statistics. Except if you have contrary opinions
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 6:10am On Oct 20, 2021
helinues:


Logically , SW is the most peaceful region currently in Nigeria.

Mr Lai may be known as a liar , but this, he got it right with or without statistics. Except if you have contrary opinions

Logic based on what? Tell us what numbers you crunched in each region to arrive at your answer please. Personally I would assume the same but its simply a baseless speculation. The point is the stats are supposed so nobody isn't left with subjective opinions.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by helinues: 6:10am On Oct 20, 2021
Blue3k:


Logic based on what? Tell us what numbers you crunched in each region to arrive at your answer please. Personally I would assume the same but its simply a baseless speculation. The point is the stats are supposed so nobody isn't left with subjective opinions.

Oya tell us the most peaceful region in the country according to you
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 6:16am On Oct 20, 2021
helinues:


Oya tell us the most peaceful region in the country according to you

Reread my last comment then answer my question.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by helinues: 6:18am On Oct 20, 2021
Blue3k:


Reread my last comment then answer my question.

Personally I would assume the same but its simply a baseless speculation

Stop beating around the bush.. Meaning you have a contrary opinion
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 6:26am On Oct 20, 2021
helinues:




Stop beating around the bush.. Meaning you have a contrary opinion

Blind man you have it backwards like usual. Baseless speculation means something not grounded on hard facts but on one's perceptions aka opinions. Now answer my questions you've been running away from helinues.
Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 11:43pm On Apr 13, 2022
Lol its never his fault.

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Re: Why Did Buhari Stop Tracking The Rising Crime Rate? by Blue3k(m): 1:05pm On May 23, 2022
Blue3k:


The issue is even worse you consider the published crime stats are always lazily done. The stats only report aggregate crimes instead of doing it by per capita basis. Doing it this way doesn't factor in population which is why crime stats are reported on per 100k basis. The last measure the NBS could improve is actually reported victimization rates by tribe, perpetrator by tribe, and if they're foreigners.

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This why I said demographics information should be tracked. Just look at how igbo commenters on the thread are in utter disbelief about the crime wave in the south east being caused by Igbo criminality. If the government kept this data publicly available and reported it on a per 100k basis we have undeniable proof who responsible for crime.

https://www.nairaland.com/7140710/umahi-igbo-people-responsible-killings

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