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Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:06am On Oct 21, 2021
Over the years, one thing I have noticed with Nigerians is that they love blaming bad things on demons. Even top government officials blame "evil forces" for the happenings in the country. Which is funny, because there is literally NO evidence for the existence of demons. The belief in demons dates back to the times when man thought that diseases had supernatural causes.

There are so many things that fall under the brand name, "demonic". A neighbor of mine has a son who is clearly mentally challenged (He is schizophrenic), yet every Sunday, his family organises special prayer sessions to deliver him from the demons that are attacking him whenever He is asleep. Schizophrenia is not the only thing that Nigerians think is demonic.

Nigerians have taken the superstitions to a whole new level, by claiming that these demons could enter your body through pornography or watching certain mainstream shows. If you ask them for evidence, they are empty. Every Christmas season some of them refuse to travel to their villages because of their irrational fear of witches/demons. Which again, there is no evidence for. Some of them are so superstitious that they refuse to tell their neighbours and even their family members that they are travelling, because they don't want their "village people" to cause accident.

That's why they fear idols and shrines and when a pastor comes and burn the shrine, they see the pastor as a "powerful" man of God. Meanwhile the shrine was never potent in the first place .undecided

There is no evidence that suggests the existence of demons, change my mind.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 7:10am On Oct 21, 2021
No evidence for the existence of demons?
Don't let political correctness and naija wokeness deceive you young one, demonic activities are for real.
Try fvcking with the Ouija board and see grin
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by dawnomike(m): 7:19am On Oct 21, 2021
This one has not seen the world angry grin
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:36am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

Try fvcking with the Ouija board and see grin

Life no be Hollywood. You watch Hollywood movies and YouTube videos which are obviously staged for entertainment and you think what you see is real.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 7:39am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:


Life no he Hollywood. You watch Hollywood movies and YouTube videos which are obviously staged for entertainment and you think what you see is real.
Ouija board is not Hollywood oga. Just because you are ignorant of something doesn't mean it's Hollywood stuff.
Some of una dey way una dey reason sha.
There are well documented evidence of exorcism by the Catholic church and others so you will call that Hollywood too right?
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:39am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

Don't let political correctness and naija wokeness deceive you young one, demonic activities are for real.


Since when did saying that there is no evidence for the existence of demons, become a political issue. I'm 36 and I have seen enough to know that there is no evidence for demons.

You are making a claim here without proof. Prove that demons exist and change my mind. Talk has always been cheap.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 7:43am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:


Since when did saying that there is no evidence for the existence of demons, become a political issue. I'm 36 and I have seen enough to know that there is no evidence for demons.

You are making a claim here without proof. Prove that demons exist and change my mind. Talk has always been cheap.
Your age means nothing, there are fools at 40. "I have seen enough" is not proof oga.
There are well documented evidence of exorcism, are those real or not? Simple question. No dey bring sentiments, just answer simple question.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:43am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:


There are well documented evidence of exorcism by the Catholic church and others so you will call that Hollywood too right?

Exorcism? How does that work? How is it any different from "deliverance". I am not asking about exorcism. I am asking about the demons that leads to a need for "exorcism". What is the proof of their existence?


Ouija boards were made popular by Hollywood
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:43am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:
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There are well documented evidence of exorcism, are those real or not? Simple question. No dey bring sentiments, just answer simple question.

Bring up the well documented evidence here. Let's see. Again, talk is cheap.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Kayberg: 7:45am On Oct 21, 2021
Mr man, demons are real. I have seen some physically. So demons are real.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:47am On Oct 21, 2021
Kayberg:
Mr man, demons are real. I have seen some physically. So demons are real.

You've seen demons? Pray tell, oh master, what do they look like?
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:47am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99, the concept of exorcism is like walking into a room, claiming that there is a cat inside that room, then claiming that a special ritual is needed to get the cat out of the room.


Note that, You have not proven the existence of any cat in the room, but you are only asserting that a cat is in there and can be removed. Exorcism is not evidence for the existence of demons.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 7:48am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

Your age means nothing, there are fools at 40. "I have seen enough" is not proof oga.
There are well documented evidence of exorcism, are those real or not? Simple question. No dey bring sentiments, just answer simple question.
Tomahawk99, the concept of exorcism is like walking into a room, claiming that there is a cat inside that room, then claiming that a special ritual is needed to get the cat out of the room.


Note that, You have not proven the existence of any cat in the room, but you are only asserting that a cat is in there and can be removed. Exorcism is not evidence for the existence of demons.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 7:52am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:


Bring up the well documented evidence here. Let's see. Again, talk is cheap.
Vatican archives or do a research online.
Going by your logic we can conclude there is no evidence of heaven or hell. It's just what you were told by your parents and religious leaders.
Talk is really cheap.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 7:55am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:


Exorcism? How does that work? How is it any different from "deliverance". I am not asking about exorcism. I am asking about the demons that leads to a need for "exorcism". What is the proof of their existence?


Ouija boards were made popular by Hollywood
They were not made popular by Hollywood, they were very common in the 18th century and widely used and there was no Hollywood then.
You say there are no demons then there is no devil which means there is no heaven or hell.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Kayberg: 7:56am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:

You've seen demons? Pray tell, oh master, what do they look like?
Yes. Twice. So the belief that demons don't exist is false. But I won't explain.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:03am On Oct 21, 2021
Kayberg:

Yes. Twice. So the belief that demons don't exist is false. But I won't explain.

Nnamdi Azikiwe is alive. Believe me, I saw him yesterday.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:08am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

They were not made popular by Hollywood, they were very common in the 18th century and widely used and there was no Hollywood then.
You say there are no demons then there is no devil which means there is no heaven or hell.

It is not only voodoo worshipers who believe such medieval nonsense; all Christians who believe in the Holy Bible must also believe in demons, devils, and other
such creatures, and they must believe that those entities cause disease and that they can be "cast out
by proper ceremonies, simply because it's in the Book. If they deny the reality of those creatures, they
deny the Bible, and thus their faith. It is not a matter of choice, but dogma.

Just like there is no evidence for demons, there is no evidence for heaven or hell.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:09am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

Vatican archives or do a research online.
Going by your logic we can conclude there is no evidence of heaven or hell. It's just what you were told by your parents and religious leaders.
Talk is really cheap.
The concept of exorcism is like walking into a room, claiming that there is a cat inside that room, then claiming that a special ritual is needed to get the cat out of the room.
Note that, You have not proven the existence of any cat in the room, but you are only asserting that a cat is in there and can be removed. Exorcism is not evidence for the existence of demons.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:10am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

Vatican archives or do a research online.
Of course you'd bring up the Vatican. Lmao

Talk is really cheap. Bring the evidence here.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 8:10am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:


It is not only voodoo worshipers who believe such medieval nonsense; all Christians who believe in the Holy Bible must also believe in demons, devils, and other
such creatures, and they must believe that those entities cause disease and that they can be "cast out
by proper ceremonies, simply because it's in the Book. If they deny the reality of those creatures, they
deny the Bible, and thus their faith. It is not a matter of choice, but dogma.

Just like there is no evidence for demons, there is no evidence for heaven or hell.
Well said...well said. No evidence of demons, no evidence of heaven too.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:10am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

Well said...well said. No evidence of demons, no evidence of heaven too.
Yep.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 8:12am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:

Of course you'd bring up the Vatican. Lmao

Talk is really cheap. Bring the evidence here.

I should not bring up the Vatican? Should i bring up your house? You religious zombies are usually dumb and you are no different, small brain no substance.
Which evidence have you presented wanka? At least i pointed you to something or is the Vatican fiction?
Talk is cheap indeed.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 8:13am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:

The concept of exorcism is like walking into a room, claiming that there is a cat inside that room, then claiming that a special ritual is needed to get the cat out of the room.
Note that, You have not proven the existence of any cat in the room, but you are only asserting that a cat is in there and can be removed. Exorcism is not evidence for the existence of demons.
No evidence of demons, no evidence of heaven or hell too.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:19am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

No evidence of demons, no evidence of heaven or hell too.

grin
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:22am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

I should not bring up the Vatican? Should i bring up your house? You religious zombies are usually dumb and you are no different, small brain no substance.
Which evidence have you presented wanka? At least i pointed you to something or is the Vatican fiction?
Talk is cheap indeed.


Oga the Vatican is not there to proof the existence of demons, they are there to "exorcise" what they have already asserted is true (without any proof). So ya, bringing up the Vatican is not helping your case here lmao

The concept of exorcism is like walking into a room, claiming that there is a cat inside that room, then claiming that a special ritual is needed to get the cat out of the room. Note that, You have not proven the existence of any cat in the room, but you are only asserting that a cat is in there and can be removed. Exorcism is not evidence for the existence of demons.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by SSIPON(m): 8:23am On Oct 21, 2021
Tomahawk99:

is the Vatican fiction

It could be? Who knows? After they are the ones claiming that a man rose from the dead and a woman turned into salt. That sounds like Hella fiction grin

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 11:02am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:


It could be? Who knows? After they are the ones claiming that a man rose from the dead and a woman turned into salt. That sounds like Hella fiction grin
That claim originated long ago before the Vatican came into existence.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Tomahawk99(m): 11:03am On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:



Oga the Vatican is not there to proof the existence of demons, they are there to "exorcise" what they have already asserted is true (without any proof). So ya, bringing up the Vatican is not helping your case here lmao

The concept of exorcism is like walking into a room, claiming that there is a cat inside that room, then claiming that a special ritual is needed to get the cat out of the room. Note that, You have not proven the existence of any cat in the room, but you are only asserting that a cat is in there and can be removed. Exorcism is not evidence for the existence of demons.
Give me one evidence of heaven or hell oga sir.
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Kayberg: 12:32pm On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:

Nnamdi Azikiwe is alive. Believe me, I saw him yesterday.
Yea… I saw him too at Marina yesterday. He was adjusting his cap.

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Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by TenQ: 2:22pm On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:
Over the years, one thing I have noticed with Nigerians is that they love blaming bad things on demons. Even top government officials blame "evil forces" for the happenings in the country. Which is funny, because there is literally NO evidence for the existence of demons. The belief in demons dates back to the times when man thought that diseases had supernatural causes.

There are so many things that fall under the brand name, "demonic". A neighbor of mine has a son who is clearly mentally challenged (He is schizophrenic), yet every Sunday, his family organises special prayer sessions to deliver him from the demons that are attacking him whenever He is asleep. Schizophrenia is not the only thing that Nigerians think is demonic.

Nigerians have taken the superstitions to a whole new level, by claiming that these demons could enter your body through pornography or watching certain mainstream shows. If you ask them for evidence, they are empty. Every Christmas season some of them refuse to travel to their villages because of their irrational fear of witches/demons. Which again, there is no evidence for. Some of them are so superstitious that they refuse to tell their neighbours and even their family members that they are travelling, because they don't want their "village people" to cause accident.

That's why they fear idols and shrines and when a pastor comes and burn the shrine, they see the pastor as a "powerful" man of God. Meanwhile the shrine was never potent in the first place .undecided

There is no evidence that suggests the existence of demons, change my mind.
What kind of evidence will surfice for you?
Re: Change My Mind: There Is No Evidence For The Existence Of Demons by Kobojunkie: 3:38pm On Oct 21, 2021
SSIPON:
Nnamdi Azikiwe is alive. Believe me, I saw him yesterday.
You mean you saw a demon calling itself "Nnamdi Azikiwe" yesterday? undecided

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