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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:23am On Oct 22, 2021 |
The usual mad man. How do I even respond to your nonsense. Tell Ghana to quit United Nations first. Again try to pass LGBT+ anti-gay law so you know just how much you will lose - and yet Ghanian gays will continue to have gay sex. Are you going to install cameras in every bedroom in Ghana or perform anal inspection annually? Just30: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:26am On Oct 22, 2021 |
vaxx:it's their dumb behavior that is appalling 4 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:32am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:Ghana cannot quit UN when it is an integral part of it. The UN itself knows what sovereignty is and what democracy looks like hence why it is limited in it efforts.... Just in case you don't know, there is nothing universal in the face of sovereignty. The law will be passed very soon, just like how Hungry just did. There is nothing to lose, for us because our country is not aid dependent like your country Kenya. I hope some day, Kenya get to stand on it two feet to reject BS. No one is interested in what kind of sex anybody has but once you are caught violating the law, you will face the consequences of your own foolishness. Bully practices and threats don't work on Ghana because there has always been a push back. Our criminal codes are one of the best in the world. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:39am On Oct 22, 2021 |
vaxx: The boldened, 101% ✓correct You easily get tired listening to them. It's all propaganda. Why should we allow *the minority have their way*? Don't the *majority* also have rights? This is bullshit from the pit of hell... 4 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:42am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Useless primitive nonsense. You have more things to concentrate on - including building a sewage system for your excessive choleric diarhoea - than trying to find out who is gay or not. The same with abortion. Women will abort if they want to - whether you put a law or not. It's just make it more dangerous for them. The same with LGBT+ - they will continue to engage in it - you're just making their life unneccesarly hard. Anyway try pass that law. Uganda tried and their court saved it. Maybe your justice system will help you - others Ghana remain VERY POOR COUNTRY that depend on AID. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:44am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Ghana miseducation. Human rights are not subject to democracy. You can have your way in whether you want communism or capitalism - but not on universal rights. This is why if Ghana decide to violate human rights of Ghanian - it will become a pariah state. South African Boer tried to discriminate on blacks - the world told them NO. Kenya under Moi tried - the world said No. Nigeria with their military dictatorship tried - world said no. Ghana military dictatorship - was also ended. Once you violate human rights - then all humans - will, should, ought and must STAND UP. vankelvin: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:47am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:See this primitive animal, your level of dumbness and uselessness is legendary. Exactly, we have more things to concentrate on like making more Ghanaian richer and richer ... Why should we add lunatics nonsense to these sensible stuff? Fortunately, our women are free to carry out abortion but LGBT is a lunatic nonsense... Legitimizing it will only lead to more lunatic stuff 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 9:48am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:Another kindergarten understanding, so what is the essence of marriage that provide a certificate that does not necessarily support the right of couples as it is enshrined in marriage right?. In a law govern country such as Ghana, a pragmatic debate must be tailored that applying the word "marriage" to some relationships and not to others is not unequal treatment, and thus not discrimination. This is because we are not hypocritical like the West who just give the certificate of marriage to same sex but doesn't enshrined their right like opposite sex. Well, if your free human right advocate can argue that unequal treatment of things that are not the same isn't automatically wrong to discriminate per se. I will see how they will win it. And again human right don't determine right or wrong. Their persived interest might not necessarily be logical or scientific. Otherwise we shouldn't complain anymore about global warming , wearing of face mask which to some people is depriving them of their essential human right etc. It is disallowing them to Carry out their day activity. Right or wrong is not determined by two or more people. It is determined by pragmatic thought which is influence by society perceive moral values . 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:49am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Ghana Beyond AID: 2050. That is your national strategy paper - with Nairobi picture of 80s. Wake me up when you we get to 2050...so I can asses if you have managed it. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:50am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:you are dumb as usual if you don't know that there is no universal law in the face of sovereignty and sex preferences is not a human right but lunacy being forced on nations. You are also dumb to know that, without democracy there is no human right How much dumber will you get? 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:51am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Marriage is not universal human rights. Gayism is. Marriage is just partnership. Gays will still get married if they want to - they just wont get gov recognition - or whatever that is. My grandfather had two wives - and he did not have any marriage certificate - but he sure was married. vaxx: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:53am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:You will do yourself much good when you take a read ... Your country is busy asking for this policy framework from Ghana. All aid to Ghana seized in 2010... I hope Kenya can do same for it people, by standing on it two feets. You don't need to get to 2050 to realize what it's like not taking aid but participating fully in trade.... Anyway, Kenya has nothing to trade hence why it is dependent on aid 3 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:55am On Oct 22, 2021 |
So you are proud member of UN - but somehow UN declarations become forced on your or western? Once again - pass the anti-gay law - but remember countries will not accept their money - either in loan or grants - to be used in countries that discriminate gays or lesbians. Citizens of those countries will also be warned that they risk being arrested for LGBT and related by primitive Ghana if they visit. So you're going to end with very few friends - like maybe North Korea. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:59am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Once again direct your tantrums to your president and his think-tank who project if you work really hard - you'll get out begging business in 2050. It's not my strategy paper for Ghana. I did not choose 2050 or Beyond AId or Nairobi Picture. If they are unaware that Ghana has been Aid-free - then your midget president Nana should be replace by our resident raving lunatic. Just30: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:02am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:Have you heard the world Sovereignty before? Have you not heard that jurisdictional laws supercedes international conventions and whatever? Why do you think that international conventions have to be rectified by various legislative assemblies? If you can answer these questions, you will learn sense. Friends are not gained through coercion, they are gained through mutual respect for jurisprudence ... Learn this and you will know that no one is your friend and loans are business transactions 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 10:04am On Oct 22, 2021 |
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:05am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Sovereignty doesn't extend to violation of human rights and discriminations. This is why the United Nation and it's institutions were formed. You already ratified the UN charter. Universal human rights are universal - you can never be allowed in this century - to enact discriminative and primitive laws that affect universal human rights - and get away with it. The punishment will be swift and heavy. You will become a lesson for other Africa countries. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:06am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:That already happened 11 years ago... The focus of the policy is industrialization... This is the aid they are talking about .. Depending on the productive capacity of other nations is a form of aid. Lifting photos from Kenya seems to now be a thing in Ghana because Nairobi seems to be Ghana symbol of under development We are also busy lifting Nairobi dirty pictures to show Ghanaians how we don't want Ghana to be as dirty as Kenya. Lifting Nairobi pic was to tell Ghanaians how we don't want Accra to look slummy and undeveloped and dependent on aid as Nairobi. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:08am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:According to my society tradition, both akans and Yoruba . Such lifestyle of your grandfather is absolutely ilegal and the children from such marriage are called bastard because their father and mother did not go thru some form of acceptance unionism before they copulate. That is our society perceive moral values and we judge base on it . Human right should be able to passed thru the touch stone of knowledge and not emotion or personal preference . Our society failed to tolerate it because it is not our standard moral practice here. We all have our laws based on our custom and tradition . 3 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:12am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:this is one of the dumbest comment ever on this forum You don't need a lawyer to define what sovereignty is to you, even a KG kid can do that for you. Have you asked yourself what human rights are and why it is not human right if it is not legislated by the legislative assembly? Do you even know what the UN charter is? poor education really make you Kenyans dumb,..... In law, there is nothing universal in the face of Jurisprudence and sovereignty.. Again poor education has failed you We are a lesson for all African countries hence why they all look up to Ghana. That is why your govt is busy asking for our anti LGBT law so that they can also pass it . It is primitive to lay aside customs and traditions (the bases of all of all countries criminal code) to support LGBTQ... It will be like legislating insanity to tumble the entire society. Moral decay leads to primitive culture and societal decay... We saw that in Pompeii and the total annihilation of Roman culture... Those who don't learn from history are bane to repeat the mistakes of the past. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:16am On Oct 22, 2021 |
My grandfather married traditionally according to our customs and paid dowry. There are universal human rights that are natural and inviolable. This right to life, bla bla. These are universal - mean applies to every MAN in the world. If you violate them without good reason - the entire world will say NO. If you kill people without any reasonable justification - the world will say NO. Marriage and such are secondary if not tertiary right. Nobody really cares about that outside ghana. In Kenya we recongize all sort of marraige - christian, muslim, traditional, african, common vaxx: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:22am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Universal human rights is by now a very old concept. You should already know and understand it. We were taught about it in primary schools. See it start with French Revolution - when King Louis was ousted by French people - and they enacted "Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen" - which many countries adopted through 18th centuries - until UN was formed in 1945. These rights applies to every man - be they in Ghana or Kenya or North Korea. Any violation will attract heavy sanctions. You cannot hide behind sovereignty. Almost every country agrees on such universal human rights and United Nations main business is to PROTECT AND DEFEND universal human rights. Ask the Boer here - he passed the apartheid law - made all those stupid arguments - only to end up a pariah state. Any such law is defective ab initio. In terms of law - I can take you to school and back - not single track like Ghana. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:25am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:Exactly why you Kenyans are dumb, you were thought the nonsense theory of universal human right and not taught Sovereignty and jurisprudence... No wonder Kenyan certificates are inferior and most Kenyans are dumb and uneducated. Laws are define by local legislation and without them, there is no law. See the kid who can take me through legal education when he doesn't even know what a sovereign state is.. or what Jurisprudence is... |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:30am On Oct 22, 2021 |
So you never heard of universal sovereignty and jurisdiction. Jurisprudence has no business in this debate..that relate to legal history of a nation. You cannot violate and discriminate on universal human rights - and wave jurisdiction. It will never be accepted. Any basic human right violation anywhere affect everyone anywhere. When the Boer was discriminating on South African black - almost everyone felt disgusted. That is universality of some human rights. You cannot enact laws in Ghana to kill people without any good reason or to discriminate against gays. You will face what the Boer faced. Sanctify discrimination - when everyone knows you already discriminate on them? The concept of universal jurisdiction is therefore closely linked to the idea that some international norms are erga omnes, or owed to the entire world community, as well as to the concept of jus cogens – that certain international law obligations are binding on all states Just30: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:35am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Just30:Translate ths hijo de puta |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:39am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:There is nothing like Universal sovereignty and a farce being pushed by leftist to get approval meanwhile they will be the first to reject it when it doesn't suit them.. In everything law, without jurisprudence, it will make no sense because jurisprudence define what the law is and how it should be interpreted... [b][/b] Let me help you Analytic jurisprudence (Clarificatory jurisprudence) rejects natural law's fusing of what law is and what it ought to be. It espouses the use of a neutral point of view and descriptive language when referring to aspects of legal systems.[4] It encompasses such theories of jurisprudence as "legal positivism", which holds that there is no necessary connection between law and morality and that the force of law comes from basic social facts;[5] and "legal realism", which argues that the real-world practice of law determines what law is, the law having the force that it does because of what legislators, lawyers, and judges do with it. No international obligation is binding unless legislated and that is why the US can reject international court jurisdiction over it state laws.. That is the practice of jurisprudence and sovereignty. Universality is none binding until interpreted by jurisprudence |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:40am On Oct 22, 2021 |
mtisTheQubit:it means you are a *Fool |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:44am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Just30: was meant for you idi0t |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:46am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Stop googling stuff you barely understand. Sovereignty = independence of a country. Jurisdiction = does the law apply within a country or case. This first question the judges in any case have to answer. Jurisprudence = key word there is prudent - good law of the country or the case or the region. They borrow from precedents - so they build country jurisprudence or tradition. Now on this debate - Jurisprudence is irrelevant. What you're saying in words you barely understand is that Ghana is independent and can do whatever it want. And I am telling you NOPE. It cannot violate universal human rights. No country is allowed to do that without consequences. You cannot wave your independence and crack down on gays - you will get Aid cuts, trade embargos, sanctions, loan cuts, VISA bans, your leaders kids abroad will be deported to Ghana. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:49am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:Then why are you saying otherwise? I think kenya law does not support customary marriage according to the locals tradition of her people . In Ghana, our law support it and it is given the same equal right as christian or orthodox marriage . LGBT aren't universal right unless you can substantiate it with fact and evidence. It even violate life,as it is against life continuation. No one has the right to kill himself even if it is based on his interest 3 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:50am On Oct 22, 2021 |
mtisTheQubit:You and your inbreds here are the only *Fools so, you should know where your four fingers are directed at. Idi0t 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:54am On Oct 22, 2021 |
Mkenya2019:The kid does not even know what Jurisprudence is Oh my goodness, how can a collective group of people be this much uneducated? Those things are the fears they list for weak countries like Kenya, to whip you guys inline.... It doesn't work on all country.. They key to every negotiation is bargaining power. If Aristotle, Socrates, Plato and Thomas Aquinas were still alive, they will laugh at the various arguments made by LGBTQ people because it is insane 1 Like |
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