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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 10:55am On Oct 22, 2021
Mkenya2019:
So you are proud member of UN - but somehow UN declarations become forced on your or western?

Once again - pass the anti-gay law - but remember countries will not accept their money - either in loan or grants - to be used in countries that discriminate gays or lesbians. Citizens of those countries will also be warned that they risk being arrested for LGBT and related by primitive Ghana if they visit.

So you're going to end with very few friends - like maybe North Korea.

why are you so dumb as this? Why is this agenda not force on equal rich country like Qatar, Dubai or saudi arabia? Or even china. Why interested in a weak Ghana?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:56am On Oct 22, 2021
Kenya has always recognised customary marriage - why would you think otherwise. Majority of the marriage are customary. You are allowed to marry many wives, get marriage certificates and during divorces - customary law apply - there are 42 tribes in kenya - so in court they call traditional experts to determine if marriage is valid and how to divorce. You can marry as many wives...one guy had 42 wives.

Kenya also recognize Islamic marriage and we have Kadhis court that deal with marriage and personal issues through Sharia law. Unlike Nigeria - Kadhis are strictly for personal cases. You can marry 4 wives.

Kenya also recognize Christian marriage - the church in Kenya conducts it and give you a certificate - it follow Christian law or Bible/Bigamy is disallowed.You cannot be polygamous. You will be charged with offence of bigamy.

We also have Kenya gov marriage - civic marriage - conducted by gov officials - and because it's also based in Greco-Roman culture - as our law is Common/English - polygamy is disallowed.

The right to sexual orientation and gender identity is universal human right

ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE BORN FREE AND EQUAL
IN DIGNITY AND RIGHTS
– ARTICLE 1, UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

vaxx:
Then why are you saying otherwise? I think kenya law does not support customary marriage according to the locals tradition of her people . In Ghana, our law support it and it is given the same equal right as christian or orthodox marriage .

LGBT aren't universal right unless you can substantiate it with fact and evidence. It even violate life,as it is against life continuation.

No one has the right to kill himself even if it is based on his interest
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 10:59am On Oct 22, 2021
Because they are not passing laws now. Qatar/Dubai uses Sharia law. China has not woken up and started chasing gays all over China - if they did they would be in trouble with many nations - who may throw sanctions. Kenya also discriminate on gays - and make homesexual sex illegal. But it's bad law nobody cares to implement. And better our parliament is busy on important things than to double down on discrimination of gays.

What you're attempting to do is outrageous. We already know gays in Ghana have it rough. Why make it more legal to discriminate against them. Is that the biggest problem in Ghana now...people having anal sex?

vaxx:
why are you so dumb as this? Why is this agenda not force on equal rich country like Qatar, Dubai or saudi arabia? Or even china. Why interested in a weak Ghana?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 11:02am On Oct 22, 2021
Again, like I warned you, I know more law than you can ever google.
Just30:
The kid does not even know what Jurisprudence is grin grin grin
Oh my goodness, how can a collective group of people be this much uneducated? grin grin

Those things are the fears they list for weak countries like Kenya, to whip you guys inline.... It doesn't work on all country..

They key to every negotiation is bargaining power.

If Aristotle, Socrates, Plato and Thomas Aquinas were still alive, they will laugh at the various arguments made by LGBTQ people because it is insane

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:11am On Oct 22, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Again, like I warned you, I know more law than you can ever google.
from your write up, you know nothing about law.. grin grin

Untill you learn how to answer questions, you will keep being an illiterate

The most important questions of analytic jurisprudence are: "What are laws?"; What is the law? What is the relationship between law and power/sociology? and What is the relationship between law and morality? Legal positivism is the dominant theory, although there is a growing number of critics who offer their own interpretations.


Historicists believe that law originates with society.

Do you even know what this means?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:13am On Oct 22, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Because they are not passing laws now. Qatar/Dubai uses Sharia law. China has not woken up and started chasing gays all over China - if they did they would be in trouble with many nations - who may throw sanctions. Kenya also discriminate on gays - and make homesexual sex illegal. But it's bad law nobody cares to implement. And better our parliament is busy on important things than to double down on discrimination of gays.

What you're attempting to do is outrageous. We already know gays in Ghana have it rough. Why make it more legal to discriminate against them. Is that the biggest problem in Ghana now...people having anal sex?

You must definitely have it ruff when your action are illegal... Do you see thieves being handle with kid gloves in any legal system?
On what basis do you think a thief is declared a thief?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by popizaino(m): 11:15am On Oct 22, 2021
Just30:
like?


First start with National carrier

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 11:20am On Oct 22, 2021
Mkenya2019:
[s]Kenya has always recognise customary - why would you think otherwise. Majority of the marriage are customary. You are allowed to marry many wives, get marriage certificates and during divorces - customary law apply - there are 42 tribes in kenya - so in court they call traditional experts to determine if marriage is valid and how to divorce.

Kenya also recognize Islamic marriage and we have Kadhis court that deal with marriage and personal issues through Sharia law. Unlike Nigeria - Kadhis are strictly for personal cases.

Kenya also recognize Christian marriage - Pastor in Kenya marry you and give you certificate - it follow christian law - BIgamy is disallowed. You cannot be polygamous.

We also have Kenya gov marriage - civic marriage - conducted by gov officials - and because it's also based in greco-roman culture - as our law in common/English - polygamy is disallowed.[/s]

The right to sexual orientation and gender identity is universal human right

ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE BORN FREE AND EQUAL
IN DIGNITY AND RIGHTS
– ARTICLE 1, UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

I am a pragmatic thinker, provide evidence for this .

A universal right is based on the assumption of having equal right regardless of gender, religion or ethnicity. Which means in every condition my persived acceptance right should be equal to my fellow human.

Therefore a certain character I choose which my society persived to be abnormal is not right on them as it is not a demand on my society to accommodate me in such a manner as to make me feel better about myself or more welcome in difficult situations -- that is my personal responsibility.

Ghana is not obliged to hold LGBT individual own headache. We don't want it simple.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:24am On Oct 22, 2021
popizaino:



First start with National carrier
we don't need it ... The airline market in Africa is not attractive and better left to private players....

Africa needs only 4 airlines and not every nation having it own airline

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:33am On Oct 22, 2021
Lol stop googling study. Analytic jurisprudence smiley smiley.

Just30:
from your write up, you know nothing about law.. grin grin

Untill you learn how to answer questions, you will keep being an illiterate

The most important questions of analytic jurisprudence are: "What are laws?"; What is the law? What is the relationship between law and power/sociology? and What is the relationship between law and morality? Legal positivism is the dominant theory, although there is a growing number of critics who offer their own interpretations.


Historicists believe that law originates with society.

Do you even know what this means?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:34am On Oct 22, 2021
People do not choose to be LGBT+ or to be transgender. Did South Africa's Semenya choose to have more testestorone and have feelings for women?
vaxx:
I am a pragmatic thinker, provide evidence for this .

A universal right is based on the assumption of having equal right regardless of gender, religion or ethnicity. Which means in every condition my persived acceptance right should be equal to my fellow human.

Therefore a certain character I choose which my society persived to be abnormal is not right on them as it is not a demand on my society to accommodate me in such a manner as to make me feel better about myself or more welcome in difficult situations -- that is my personal responsibility.

Ghana is not obliged to hold LGBT individual own headache. We don't want it simple.


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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:36am On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Lol stop googling study. Analytic jurisprudence smiley smiley.

In teaching, you just have to used facts before some kid starts throwing tantrums ....

I don't want to hear anymore Kenyan tantrum.... If you are smart enough, try arguing the facts....

Quoting what I already know vividly is what you deserve. grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 11:38am On Oct 22, 2021
Mkenya2019:
Because they are not passing laws now. Qatar/Dubai uses Sharia law. China has not woken up and started chasing gays all over China - if they did they would be in trouble with many nations - who may throw sanctions. Kenya also discriminate on gays - and make homesexual sex illegal. But it's bad law nobody cares to implement. And better our parliament is busy on important things than to double down on discrimination of gays.

What you're attempting to do is outrageous. We already know gays in Ghana have it rough. Why make it more legal to discriminate against them. Is that the biggest problem in Ghana now...people having anal sex?

I said you guys are not independent thinker, you just ask the same question again, the same question that can be found on popular internet from pro gay defender . Even larry ask the Ghana MP this lame question. The correct and scientific answer to this is. There is a factual evidence in Ghana that HIV are common among gays than the straight guys and it is causing the nation about 200 million in purchasing of subside drugs to cater for people living with this sickness ( such amount will have been piloted on important infrastructure assuming we don't have such a mess here . So to save our nation of this continious expenditure, we would have to reduce the spread of the virus which is known to common among gays than straight guys .

And again to your assertion about Dubai and Qatar.The whole 5 rich gulf state will never adopt it and clearly the West understand where they can exercised their power . Saudi arabia and uae citizens run UK economy ( their expensive estate like kensington and Chelsea are full of Arab millionaire, even their own english citizens can't afford it) so they know their limit of bullshit.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:40am On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
People do not choose to be LGBT+ or to be transgender. Did South Africa's Semenya choose to have more testestorone and have feelings for women?
[imf]https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1bO923.img?h=768&w=1366&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=419&y=136[/img]
was Semanya testosterone the determinant of her sex?

Did biology not teach you that there are only two sex?

Every other thing is a preference

Now you've change to this handle to come and spill more nonsense

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:41am On Oct 22, 2021
Let me help you. Kenya and Ghana like most British colonies jurisprudence is mostly greco-roman law. This the common law. That is the wider jurisprudence. Ghana has developed it's own jurisprudence of course. In cases - in say specific area - arguments will be backed by quoting or referencing other cases..either in Ghana or in commonwealth...that is basically jurisprudence.

It very unlikely to hear a Ghana lawyer referencing a case from French speaking Benin or China or even USA - because it's a different jurisprudence.

It easy for Ghana lawyer to move to Kenya and vice-versa - because it's mostly the same jurisprudence. It based on common law. This laws and arguments that developed in Englad in middle ages...and have become precedents or good law.

Just30:
In teaching, you just have to used facts before some kid starts throwing tantrums ....

I don't want to hear anymore Kenyan tantrum.... If you are smart enough, try arguing the facts....

Quoting what I already know vividly is what you deserve. grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 11:45am On Oct 22, 2021
popizaino:



First start with National carrier
Then the ladies..They told wode maya that they can give him cute babies grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:47am On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Let me help you. Kenya and Ghana like most British colonies jurisprudence is mostly greco-roman law. This the common law. That is the wider jurisprudence. Ghana has developed it's own jurisprudence of course. In cases - in say specific area - arguments will be backed by quoting or referencing other cases..either in Ghana or in commonwealth...that is basically jurisprudence.

It very unlikely to hear a Ghana lawyer referencing a case from French speaking Benin or China or even USA - because it's a different jurisprudence.

sorry, in Ghana, we don't just copy blindly.. we adapt it to our customs and traditions to make it more local to our society..
This is why we have succeeded largely...


Now that you know that laws are base on society, you can also learn where the criminal code comes from....

Then you will learn how there is no universality

Anyway, you've limited jurisprudence to common law Jurisdiction

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:47am On Oct 22, 2021
HIV-AIDS being a day disease is so 1980s. Concentrate on circumscizing the 10 percent that dont. The risk of spreading HIV from anal sex and from uncircumscized straight sex is almost similar. How many Ghanians are gay - maybe 0.5 percent - and you're risking global outrage.

If truly hiv-aids fight - go for more than a million ghanians who do not circumsize - according to the stats.

vaxx:
I said you guys are not independent thinker, you just ask the same question again, the same question that can be found on popular internet from pro gay defender . Even larry ask the Ghana MP this lame question. The correct and scientific answer to this is. There is a factual evidence in Ghana that HIV are common among gays than the straight guys and it is causing the nation about 200 million in purchasing of subside drugs to cater for people living with this sickness ( such amount will have been piloted on important infrastructure assuming we don't have such a mess here . So to save our nation of this continious expenditure, we would have to reduce the spread of the virus which is known to common among gays than straight guys .

And again to your assertion about Dubai and Qatar.The whole 5 rich gulf state will never adopt it and clearly the West understand where they can exercised their power . Saudi arabia and uae citizens run UK economy ( their expensive estate like kensington and Chelsea are full of Arab millionaire, even their own english citizens can't afford it) so they know their limit of bullshit.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:50am On Oct 22, 2021
Ghana is common law. That is 95 or 98 percent of your jurisprudence. Anything else if fat lie.

I doubt you have developed any good local jurisprudence considering your still primitive and you lost 40yrs in military.

Just30:
sorry, in Ghana, we don't just copy blindly.. we adapt it to our customs and traditions to make it more local to our society..
This is why we have succeeded largely...


Now that you know that laws are base on society, you can also learn where the criminal code comes from....

Then you will learn how there is no universality

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 11:56am On Oct 22, 2021
Just30:
you are dumb as usual if you don't know that there is no universal law in the face of sovereignty and sex preferences is not a human right but lunacy being forced on nations.

You are also dumb to know that, without democracy there is no human right grin grin
How much dumber will you get?



I don't think anyone is forcing homosexuality on any nation. It's always been there and there were no issue. The problem comes when a government start picking on gays instead of taking practical steps to end poverty and unemployment!! I will repeat what Uhuru told some silly journalist from CNN, " At the moment gays and homosexuality is not an issue in Africa".

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:56am On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Ghana is common law. That is 95 or 98 percent of your jurisprudence. Anything else if fat lie.

I doubt you have developed any good local jurisprudence considering your still primitive and you lost 40yrs in military.

You can ask your European masters what jurisdiction they came to meet ... They didn't meet a primitive society like in Kenya...

They came to meet a well laid down juris practice that was more democratic than they could imagine...

I will say, Ghana's jurisprudence is probably 60:40 though we practice infused common law

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 11:58am On Oct 22, 2021
gallivant:


I don't think anyone is forcing homosexuality on any nation. It's always been there and there were no issue. The problem comes when a government start picking on gays instead of taking practical steps to end poverty and unemployment!! I will repeat what Uhuru told some silly journalist from CNN, " At the moment gays and homosexuality is not an issue in Africa".
Naa, the problems arise when homosexuals and homosexual nations start asking for their lunacy to be legislated on..

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:01pm On Oct 22, 2021
Precisely. It copy-paste of 1st world issues in 3rd world country that should be more worried on sewage system and cholera. It's very unlikely ghanian will want gay sex with running stomach.

It's almost begging for serious spanking from 1st world country. Ghana itself will end be sodomized by rich nations - deeper to poverty.

gallivant:


I don't think anyone is forcing homosexuality on any nation. It's always been there and there were no issue. The problem comes when a government start picking on gays instead of taking practical steps to end poverty and unemployment!! I will repeat what Uhuru told some silly journalist from CNN, " At the moment gays and homosexuality is not an issue in Africa".

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 12:06pm On Oct 22, 2021
Every Africa community had customary law. Undeveloped. Common or English Law is the main jurisprudence in Kenya and Ghana. Now go back to wikipedia and bring back more nonsense. I think this one is dead.
Just30:
You can ask your European masters what jurisdiction they came to meet ... They didn't meet a primitive society like in Kenya...

They came to meet a well laid down juris practice that was more democratic than they could imagine...

I will say, Ghana's jurisprudence is probably 60:40 though we practice infused common law

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 12:07pm On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Precisely. It copy-paste of 1st world issues in 3rd world country that should be more worried on sewage system and cholera. It's very unlikely ghanian will want gay sex with running stomach.

It's almost begging for serious spanking from 1st world country. Ghana itself will end be sodomized by rich nations - deeper to poverty.

we don't have a sewage problem or cholera problem..

Those are poor countries like Kenya problem ....

Poverty and Ghana in one sentence is like an ambivalence

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 12:12pm On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Every Africa community had customary law. Undeveloped. Common or English Law is the main jurisprudence in Kenya and Ghana. Now go back to wikipedia and bring back more nonsense. I think this one is dead.
Sorry

Customary law was highly developed here... Too bad it wasn't available in Kenya because of how primitive that society was.

Sorry common law is not the main jurisdiction here...

90% of all cases in Ghana's courts are land cases .... Common law cannot resolve these cases unless customary....

This should give you an idea of what the jurisdiction is..

Your false equivalence of primitive Kenya and an advance Ghana does not hold... Find another country.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 12:22pm On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
People do not choose to be LGBT+ or to be transgender. Did South Africa's Semenya choose to have more testestorone and have feelings for women?
it is entirely possible LGBT are psychological in nature and not necessarily a product of such gene. To some medical professional it is just like a disease that can be cured or managed and to some it is biologically ok. It depends on the fence you want to sit on ...

I will go with my earlier suggestion, i.e( psycological in nature) I went to boys school during my college days , and some of us has boy lovers in the hostel and they do all sorts of crappy things . Most of this continue as it is influence by pressure group. And copycat among student persists.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 12:31pm On Oct 22, 2021
rvp2018:
HIV-AIDS being a day disease is so 1980s. Concentrate on circumscizing the 10 percent that dont. The risk of spreading HIV from anal sex and from uncircumscized straight sex is almost similar. How many Ghanians are gay - maybe 0.5 percent - and you're risking global outrage.

If truly hiv-aids fight - go for more than a million ghanians who do not circumsize - according to the stats.

Circumcision is a general practice in Ghana . Infact more than 95 born male Ghanian are circumcised. Therefore we do not have issue with it here.

It is proven fact , HIV are predominantly in gay men than straight men, Ghana is avoiding that and our 200 million dollar will be spend somewhere.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 12:38pm On Oct 22, 2021
vankelvin:


Yes, they've now settled on SA.

But these people are cooking something against Ghana grin grin

CAF+S.A+Ethiopia should pray their plans against Ghana works because if Ghana beats Ethiopia in S.A we will teach S.A a lesson in Ghana.... They should go and ask Egypt what we did to them some time past grin grin

SA is playing with fire angry grin grin grin
Ghana should have protested against playing Ethiopia in SA because that gives SA advantage. Remember, CAF president from SA.
If stadium was a problem in Ethiopia, why not using this TZ stadium?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 12:39pm On Oct 22, 2021
The 832mt Kawo BRIDGE, in Kaduna state almost completed grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 12:44pm On Oct 22, 2021
Just30:
There are so many ways to charge batteries ie, through solar, diesel plants and etc..
I've already told you, electricity is expensive.

You definitely have to, after viewing the facts ...
Addis Ababa is still developing from it slummy nature which is typical of East Africa in general
Son,BEMU trains aren't charged that way! Those are not car batteries. BEMU are charged when a train is in motion.BEMU are electric trains with batteries used for emergencies. Electric trains are cheaper to operate since they don't use engines.
Son,if u wanna compare ur towns with Addis, start by showing your towers,let's compare
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 12:51pm On Oct 22, 2021
vaxx:
Circumcision is a general practice in Ghana . Infact more than 95 born male Ghanian are circumcised. Therefore we do not have issue with it here.

It is proven fact , HIV are predominantly in gay men than straight men, Ghana is avoiding that and our 200 million dollar will be spend somewhere.
99% you mean

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