theTranscriber:

If you don't want to respect yourself

I will teach you

Yes teach me hard with this graph from china

theenchanter:
that America's Amtrak Acela is the fastest train system in the whole of US and yet, not considered high speed!!! Even Nigeria's rail system is pegged at 150km/h but can def run at 250km/h.

Chinese hsr run at over 300km/h, some at over 400/h and even over 500km/h. We're talking of rail lines built in this new millennium and not some humpty dumpty built in the 1800s .

Early developed nations widely built NGRs across their nation and they're forever stuck with it, except they're building new ones in other places..... That's the problem SA and USA is facing (USA, SA) hahahahaha. Same problem, stuck in development.

don't get involved in a debate you can't win firstly regardless of your opinion Americas Amtrak runs at a maximum of 150mph that was the argument .....Nigeria has yet to even acquire any trains that can reach 200kmph to even be considered a HRS system so again don't know why you would even mention Nigeria.

Again both SGR and NGR have been around since the 1800s,they ain't modern, they ain't new and there is no difference in terms of modernity between the 2, South Africa chose the NGR due to our terrain and cost efficiency.... Same reason Japan also uses NGR.... Not to mention we have new ultra modern passenger trains that beats anything in Nigeria and most of Africa in fact.


Also the new thing is maglev trains if Nigeria gets that then I'll be impressed.... But 200 year old SGR does not impress me.

Did I mention we are the only SSA country that currently has a proposed hsr development plan?

Just30:
it seems you need a bit of education in sociology to understand what customs are..

A society customs developed through it societal settings, it is a pattern of behaviour that is characteristic of life in it social setting.
It develops completely devoid of religion but influenced by it cultural idea.

Culture itself is largely influenced by religion and vice versa. That's the point.

Just30:
seems you dont know what beauty is .... you think beauty is in the colour of the skin.

Not me who think that way,but your women who spend a fortune buying wigs and forcing their skin to look white by applying those hard chemicals

Just30:
there is nothing like religious customs

https://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/sacramentum-mundi/religious-customs-COM_003750#:~:text=A%20custom%20is%20an%20action,official%20liturgy%20of%20the%20Church.

GeneralDae:

Culture itself is largely influenced by religion and vice versa. That's the point.

Then you need some education on what culture is.


Stop trying to mix these things up

Culture is a collection of Customs, social behaviour and ideas... These things even develop before religion can even exist.

Kazikazi:
Not me who think that way,but your women who spend a fortune buying wigs and forcing their skin to look white by applying those hard chemicals

Seems you dont know that your women even do it...

caucasian women are bleaching and wearing wigs

jl115:


https://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/sacramentum-mundi/religious-customs-COM_003750#:~:text=A%20custom%20is%20an%20action,official%20liturgy%20of%20the%20Church.

The things this person is referring to are religious dogma

Just30:
Then you need some education on what culture is.


Stop trying to mix these things up

Culture is a collection of Customs, social behaviour and ideas... These things even develop before religion can even exist.

You are the one who needs to be educated on this my man.
Take Saudi Arabia pre and pro Muhammed as an example. Almost all of the entire culture of the Arab world today is based on islam and their interpretation of it. It's very different from Arabia pre Muhammed. Also all of the pyramids and occultic customs of ancient Egypt stemmed from their belief in the gods and priests as well as life after death. Christmas is a culture but it was also first religion, and so on.
Religion is defined as a way of life of a people.

Just30:
The things this person is referring to are religious dogma

it clearly states religious customs.... Which you said doesn't exist...

Abohboy:


Diesel engines are way cheaper then electric engines what are you talking about? And it costs more to generate and distribute electricity then it does to buy diesel and put it into an engine I feel you have a gross misunderstanding about everything

You don't get it. Using diesel won't cost u less.
1.Have u tried to think about a cost of generating 1kw by diesel vs electric energy like hydro power?
2.Have u calculated servicing and maintenance cost of diesel engines vs electric powered?

There is no where a diesel trains can be cheaper than electric.

GeneralDae:

You are the one who needs to be educated on this my man.
Take Saudi Arabia pre and pro Muhammed as an example. Almost all of the entire culture of the Arab world today is based on islam and their interpretation of it. It's very different from Arabia pre Muhammed.
Religion is defined as a way of life of a people.

Good you know you cant compare the two...
The arab world had their Persian culture which was fine and beautiful and then Men of religious dogma came to use those dogma to suppress their culture...
why do you think their societies cant hold?

jl115:
it clearly states religious customs.... Which you said doesn't exist...

And I clearly told you that the person was referring to dogma

Just30:
Good you know you cant compare the two...
The arab world had their Persian culture which was fine and beautiful and then Men of religious dogma came to use those dogma to suppress their culture...
why do you think their societies cant hold?

This is irrelevant to my point. Also read my edited post and tell me what you think.

Kazikazi:
You don't get it. Using diesel won't cost u less.
1.Have u tried to think about a cost of generating 1kw by diesel vs electric energy like hydro power?
2.Have u calculated servicing and maintenance cost of diesel engines vs electric powered?

There is no where a diesel trains can be cheaper than electric.

You are funny

have you used an electric car before? Infact, let me not even go that far, have you used a hybrid car before?

Ask anyone who has and you will marvel at the cost of servicing anything electric.

Just30:
Seems you dont know that your women even do it...

caucasian women are bleaching and wearing wigs

Some TZ,and even Caucasian use wigs sometimes. But when u see a poor African nation use a huge amount of cash for wigs,that tell us how much these women are unsatisfied with their hair.This shows what these women believe what a beautiful women hairs should look like

Just30:
Good you know you cant compare the two...
The arab world had their Persian culture which was fine and beautiful and then Men of religious dogma came to use those dogma to suppress their culture...
why do you think their societies cant hold?

Arabs are not Persians...

GeneralDae:

This is irrelevant to my point. Also read my edited post and tell me what you think.

You have still not made a relevant point because you still dont know what custom are and what religion is.
For instance, customs determined how Egyptain kings were buried, and how their kings were chosen..
Customs determined their dressing and the food they ate..... customs is what determined what their religion was as they looked around them to determine what was there and what wasnt.

Just30:
You are funny

have you used an electric car before? Infact, let me not even go that far, have you used a hybrid car before?

Ask anyone who has and you will marvel at the cost of servicing anything electric.

Stupid.
What are the cost of servicing EMU? Without piston and crankshafts,what will it cost to service EMU? Are u changing injection pumps,radiators,cylinder heads,etc in emu's?

Kazikazi:
Not me who think that way,but your women who spend a fortune buying wigs and forcing their skin to look white by applying those hard chemicals

Kazi Please allow women to beautify themselves...it's their nature...I'm not sure why you're so upset.

mtisTheQubit:


Arabs are not Persians...

Actually, the majority of Arabs are persians and it doesn't matter whether they believe it or not

Just30:
Actually, the majority of Arabs are persians and it doesn't matter whether they believe it or not

How are Arabs Persian ? or ya confusing shiite and sunni

Kazikazi:
Some TZ,and even Caucasian use wigs sometimes. But when u see a poor African nation use a huge amount of cash for wigs,that tell us how much these women are unsatisfied with their hair.This shows what these women believe what a beautiful women hairs should look like

So, Caucasians who use wigs are unsatisfied with their hair?

People get tired of looking the same and wigs change that.

Just30:
You have still not made a relevant point because you still dont know what custom are and what religion is.
For instance, customs determined how Egyptain kings were buried, and how their kings were chosen..
Customs determined their dressing and the food they ate..... customs is what determined what their religion was as they looked around them to determine what was there and what wasnt.

I agree with you but custom is primarily influenced by religion. Religion for instance made the Egyptians bury their kings the way they did due to the belief in life after death. It made the ancient jews conduct burials the way they did. Religion have influenced the dressing of many societies. Custom comes first but it is always influenced by the religion of the people.
Customs do not exist in a vacuum, religion gives them their life wire in most cases.

mtisTheQubit:


How are Arabs Persian ? or ya confusing shiite and sunni

Check their culture, their indo-Europan heritage and even their languages..

sunni and shiite division has very little to do with this kiddo

GeneralDae:

I agree with you but custom is primarily influenced by religion. Religion for instance made the Egyptians bury their kings the way they did due to the belief in life after death. It made the ancient jews conduct burials the way they did. Religion have influenced the dressing of many societies. Custom comes first but it is always influenced by the religion of the people.
Customs do not exist in a vacuum, religion gives them their life wire in most cases.

How can religion have an influence on something that developed before religion itself could exist?

jl115:
don't get involved in a debate you can't win firstly regardless of your opinion Americas Amtrak runs at a maximum of 150mph that was the argument .....Nigeria has yet to even acquire any trains that can reach 200kmph to even be considered a HRS system so again don't know why you would even mention Nigeria.

Again both SGR and NGR have been around since the 1800s,they ain't modern, they ain't new and there is no difference in terms of modernity between the 2, South Africa chose the NGR due to our terrain and cost efficiency.... Same reason Japan also uses NGR.... Not to mention we have new ultra modern passenger trains that beats anything in Nigeria and most of Africa in fact.


Also the new thing is maglev trains if Nigeria gets that then I'll be impressed.... But 200 year old SGR does not impress me.

Did I mention we are the only SSA country that currently has a proposed hsr development plan?

firstly, I'm not here to win an argument.... But Amtrak can run a maximum of 150km/h and Nigeria's rail also runs at150km/h, but then, Nigeria's rail can run up to 250km/h. So saying Nigeria has yet to acquire any train that can reach 200km/h is nothing but ignorance at it's finest..... At least, 4 lines are currently running and construction of another 1300km+ has been approved, unlike SA where cape guage is the standard and only guatrain running is at 150km/h.

Yes, both NGR and SGR have been around since the 1880s when SGR was invented.... But do u know NGR was actually invented around 1500s? while they aren't really modern, SGR is better and modern than the NGR and also the base of all new rail construction except maglev or german skytrain.... All new high speed trains run on SGR and not NGR, unfortunately for SA, it's stuck with NGR. all ur talk of having passenger trains that beats anything in nigeria is just in ur medulla.

If 200year old SGR doesnt impress u, is it 500year old NGR that does? Forgetting that all new hsr run on them.

Ah, pls. SA is not the only SSA nation with an hsr development plan, stop being delusional like most saffas.

Just30:
How can something that develops before religion can exist, have an influence on it?

So because something came first, it cannot be changed or influenced by other things that came after?
Also custom must not necessarily develop before religon can exist ( e.g in the case of Egypt and many ancient civilizations, we do not know what came first) and even if I should grant that fallacy, it still doesn't change the fact that religon is the primary influencer and backbone of cultures. For example, the customs of the middle east were practiced by all in that region including the isrealites, but moses also brought religon that modified some customs and changed some things in the way of life of his people, same with Muhammed, Buddha, etc.

Just30:
Check their culture, their indo-Europan heritage and even their languages..

sunni and shiite division has very little to do with this kiddo

Arab people, also known as Arabs, are the people who live in the Arab world. The "Arab world" is thought to be in North Africa and Western Asia. 

Persians are those who live on the Iranian Cultural Continent, which stretches from the Iranian Plateau in the east to the Indus River in Pakistan in the west. It also spreads from Central Asia to the Caucasus in the north, then to the Persian Gulf in the south.

Arabs are people who can trace their ancestry back to the original inhabitants of Arabian tribes who lived in the Syrian Desert and Arabian Peninsula; 

Arabs are people who can trace their ancestry back to the original inhabitants of Arabian tribes who lived in the Syrian Desert and Arabian Peninsula.

@theenchanter..do you know whom i am...

Just30 do you agree that religon can give birth to a whole new set of customs and traditions?

theTranscriber:
it's actually *hijo de la puta son of a biitch

Yo habla español un poco

me also..little little...