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Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 12:20am On Oct 19, 2021 |
My Honda baby boy which has refused to start for some months now has been in an electrician's workshop for some time now. The guy is claiming that the gear brain box is the issue. Abeg my people, am wondering if Honda baby boy has a gear brain box. |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by chukwuibuipob: 12:57am On Oct 19, 2021 |
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Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by RuneKingThor: 10:56pm On Oct 19, 2021 |
Your car has spent so long in a repairer shop without him finding solution. 20 year old car for that matter. You no go like carry your car commot? 1 Like |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by adanny01(m): 2:11pm On Oct 20, 2021 |
ashala: I don't think so. The transmission ECU should be built in the main ECU, albiet, some cars do have a separate transmission ECU My EOD had water in the ECU, the transmission acted up and while engine ran fine. If EOD doesn't, baby boy shouldn't. Your mechanic should rule out 1 spark 2 fuel 3 compression 4 timing If he doesn't know how to check these, find another who does. 2 Likes |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by kuss: 2:56pm On Oct 20, 2021 |
Yes it does Even danfo bus get brain bus |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by diportivo: 5:53pm On Oct 20, 2021 |
kuss: it's the confidence for me ashala: it doesn't have a separate ecu for the transmission like some cars do 1 Like |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by emmyN(m): 11:35pm On Oct 20, 2021 |
ashala: If your car is not starting, why do you have someone probing gear and not the engine itself? 3 Likes |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by diportivo: 10:59am On Oct 22, 2021 |
emmyN: if you read in between the lines,you will know why his mechanic said what he said |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 1:43pm On Oct 23, 2021 |
adanny01: Actually, the issue with the car is completely electrical and not mechanical in any way. Sometimes when you put the key in the ignition and turn it, the green key indicator light will not flash on the dash board and once it did not flash, the car can never start even if you try from now till tomorrow. We initially thought it was a Transponder issue but in the end it wasnt. I actually doubted it when he said the gear brain box has issues cos that was the very first time am hearing that until he showed me the one he removed from my car. He clarified that its not all Honda Acord 1998 models that have it. (Mostly American Spec or so that normally does) See the pictures below: 1 Share
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Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by diportivo: 3:21pm On Oct 23, 2021 |
ashala: this thing you av snapped and posted is the abs module sha o but nothing spoil.....aslong as ur car issues go away |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by adanny01(m): 3:30pm On Oct 23, 2021 |
ashala: There is a reason I said test for spark and fuel. If no spark and fuel, its most likely an immobilizer issue. Also the absence of spark means the mechanic cannot be suspecting transmission ECU. Otherwise, ECU can be ruled out. I didnt want to start asking you whether you have immobilizer or not, the way to know for sure is spark and fuel. If you have an ECU issue and you have an immobilizer, how are you sure that a new ECU will solve your problem? I still think you need a new competent mechanic. Mind you, spark and fuel are electrical issues. 1 Like |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 11:55pm On Oct 23, 2021 |
adanny01: Well, you sound quite knowledgeable with regards to car issues. But can it be possible that spark and fuel could cause the green key sign not to flash on the dashboard when you want to start the car? Normally, the green key sign flashes momento rally once you insert the key and turn it before the car starts but it doesn't now, hence my car hasn't been starting. I changed the Relay still the issue wasn't solved. The guy claims that once we change the gear brain box, the issue would be solved; would still ask him about the Immobilizer though. |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 11:58pm On Oct 23, 2021 |
diportivo: I doubt if it's the ABS module..... But like you have correctly stated, nothing spoil aslong as the issues go away. |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by adanny01(m): 12:03pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
ashala: @the bolded, you are correct in reverse. The green key light is the one that determines if you get spark and fuel. That green key light is the immobilizer system. It flashes and goes off once the correct key is inserted into ignition. If wrong key is inserted into ignition, the green key light stays on which means the car is immobilized. If the light doesn't come on at all, then you probably do not have power on the immobilizer system or the unit is bad and the car is definitely immobilized. Immobilized means the ECU will not send power to the coil packs and also the fuel injectors. That means no spark, no fuel. What you need is a key programmer. Its either there is a problem with the key (it certainly has a transponder), or the receiver, or the immobilizer unit. The immobilizer unit turns on/off the main ECU. So you will think the ECU is not working but actually the immobilizer is the main thing here. You will change all the ECU you like, the immobilizer is the one that will allow the car start. From the pictures you shared and the cut and join wires i have seen, your present mechanic will never be able to start that car. Lets pray he has not done damage to the immobilizer system and the ECU. 1 Like
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Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 3:04pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
diportivo: Hmmmm...................Omo, its like you are correct ooo. I did some googling and those pics looks more like ABS control Module |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 3:38pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
adanny01: Your words are making a lot of sence ooo but the thing is this, that cut and join work has been there even before this particular issue started. After going through your response, I did a little research my self and discovered that the the pic is that of an ABS control Module which points to one fact ............... the Electrician's capability is seriously in doubt. When you are saying ECU, are you referring to the car's Brain box?. Now if the car is actually immobilized like you stated, does it mean the immobilizer system should be changed? Also, there is this particular thing i experienced . On that day surprisingly, the green light flashed and the car started. I drove the car and while still in motion after driving for like 10 minutes, the engine went off suddenly as if there was a cut in fuel supply. I tried all i could to start the car but it refused to start as the key sign did not flash on the dashboard. I ended up towing the car to the guy's repair shop. So, can this also be as a result of the immobilizer?. Sincerely, at a point i started thinking this was the handiwork of village people (LOL) because you will start the car normally, drive to a place and when you want to go, the green key sign will not flash and the car wont start. You will leave the car, come back the next morning, insert the key, the green light will flash and the car will start. Am just confused. |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by adanny01(m): 4:22pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
ashala: You've said it all. The green light is what you need to fix. What you need is a key programmer. Those who have scanning machine that is capable of programming transponder keys. 1 Like |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by diportivo: 5:17pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
ashala: iv used 2 of that model....EX-L and LX all you have typed points to immobiliser issue....but,does the check engine light come on at all when u turn the key to the ACC position? if check light doesn't come on at all the car won't start till eternity if the check light does come on,na immobiliser issue |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by glasshouse(m): 9:54pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
I will suggest that u check the brainbox of your car . Cos the brainbox us what opens the fuel pump and then opens the nozzles . If the brainbox is bad it won't send any signal . Try and check that your brainbox if it is good |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 9:05pm On Oct 25, 2021 |
glasshouse: Av changed the brain box yet the issues are still there |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 10:01pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Thanks guys, your advice made me change Electrician . Lo and behold the new Electrician fixed the car that same day, a car that had stayed four months in the workshop of the previous electrician. Una thanks oooo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by emmyN(m): 10:11pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
ashala: Glad you got help. How did he resolve it? |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 1:49pm On Nov 14, 2021 |
emmyN: Funny enough, the new Electrician refused to open up on the actual thing he did. When i towed the car to his workshop, i wanted to give him a brief history of the issue with the car but he said i shouldn't bother as he would run his own analysis and correct the fault ASAP. Since all i wanted was to have my car repaired, i had no choice. To my greatest surprise, the young man called me the next day to come and carry the car and gave me a bill of N45,000 which after much haggling he reduced to N35,000. |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by diportivo: 2:23pm On Nov 14, 2021 |
ashala: ecu noni |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by emmyN(m): 5:05pm On Nov 14, 2021 |
ashala: Hmm, well what matters is that your car got fixed. Congrats. |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 6:50pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
emmyN: Exactly ooo |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by MASTAkiLLAh(m): 9:26am On Nov 18, 2021 |
Was your ex mechanic a bricklayer or carpenter once upon a time ? |
Re: Does Honda Baby Have Gear Brain Box? by ashala(m): 6:25pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
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