Oyin2212:

Bro I see your view on this thread are mostly morally conscious and you don't go with the herd. I would love your opinion on this.
Do you believe that if you're providing a woman with attention, resources and time and you're not getting sex in return, then it's a bad deal?

Tonnyray:
Is this meant to lure me into the fray? Cos I'm actually comfortable taking a temporary backseat watching insecurities play out as usual. Secondly, is the question a general one or for me as a person cos as you obviously have observed I got zero issues being a comfortable outlier.

Lidocaine:
Please
What does it mean what a girl tells you that """" I cant give you what you want so I dont want you to waste your time """
how can you reply or get the girl,

CsRockefeller:
I've pulled myself out of the relationship. I feel used sincerely.

Tonnyray:
Tell our new boyfriend to turn abusive too because it's not a good thing to show love, care and affection. Be a real dragon cos no woman wants a tame dragon.

May GOD help us all.

One day we will realize we are not all cut from the same cloth.
You are who you are. Do not let anyone deceive you into assuming an identity contrary to your person.

Forget the stupid image being painted here of the bad ass, arrogant, selfish, amoral bad boy who doesn't give a fvck about anything or anyone but himself and is having the time of his life fvcking without commitment or responsibility. It is a mentality as weak as weak can be. Not only is it a nonsensical mirage, practically every one advocating such fall far short when you get to meet them in person (not that they ever will allow you to anyway). Oga learn to be your person. If you are nice and caring by nature nothing do you.

Oga learn to be your person. If you are nice and caring by nature nothing do you.

As a man you have ONLY ONE JOB as it relates to relationship dynamics: Find that girl that matches your energy. Find that woman that brings out the best in you. Find that woman that you do not need to put up an "Alpha" act for. Find that woman that gives you palpable peace, not only in your mind but in both mind and spirit.
The mindset that ALL women are messed up and hoes and liabilities blah blah blah is a scam.
.
.
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Tonnyray:
Never bother yourself about what any woman is attracted to.
Bother yourself about what you want in and out of life.
Be successful, never you be a lowlife.

Selah.

Tonnyray:
Understand that you have a legacy to bequeath to a coming generation.
Understand that you have an obligation to be part of the solution to the ills that bedevil our society not part of the problem.
Understand that you have a place in the collective destiny of our society.
Keep all of this in mind as you build yourself up.
Keep all of this in mind as you raise children that can proudly walk in your footsteps.
To hell with what confused "successful" women want.
Be successful.
Build your legacy.

Martinez39s:
Indeed. Marriage is usually all about financial security and safety for women. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction or your red pill knowledge. It is nothing to do with love. You can be a pathetic simp and a woman will still pick you for marriage as long as you are her best financial option. You can be sexually unattractive (you could even look deformed or be a monkey), poor in bed or whatever and she will still pick you for marriage as long as you are her best financial deal. Being picked as a lottery ticket or retirement plan doesn't mean you will be spared the games and wiles of female nature.

This rich guy called Grand P and this woman called Eudoxie Yao dated and married for over two years. Though they shortly broke up this year over him messing with another woman, they have reunited. It is what it is.

luminouz:

She also has the biggest booty in Africa. I don't want to imagine if she is faithful to him or not. It is what it is

Martinez39s:
He is deliberately lifting right from the female play book. Funny enough, a lot of females are criticising him for the tweet.

CaveAdullam:
DAY 30, REDPILL 2021

I don't know who needs to hear this: there're no six or seven steps that you must do to make a non submissive and highly belligerent woman bow to your leadership. It is a task, much difficult than all other tasks. Genuine desire; raw and organic and healthy in appearance and nature cannot be negotiated. If she's not interested, let her go! If eventually she's coerced by various influences around her e.g her parents and friends to follow you, she will pretend to be a good follower, but on the way, you become wrecked by her histrionics alongside hysterical behaviours.

If she desire you, she will follow you. Don't convince her with SMS, gifts, money, time, attention etc. Rather, use these things to edify yourself and stand on a high pedestal where you can easily select the woman that truly desire you from the ones that has come to exploit you.

Don't preach! Don't chase! Don't persuade!

Authority: become a slender beautiful flower that stands tall, though static, but able to attract the most beautiful butterflies.

CaveAdullam:
It's in my gene to talk about women, sex and the intersexual dynamics all day especially in a romance section. Get it!

Martinez39s, in Post 3, a slight typo: outlier not outliner. Thanks.

Tonnyray:
Is this meant to lure me into the fray? Cos I'm actually comfortable taking a temporary backseat watching insecurities play out as usual. Secondly, is the question a general one or for me as a person cos as you obviously have observed I got zero issues being a comfortable outlier.

UncleJudax:

Obviously, you are not a philanthropist and want to fück her a little bit. And yu already know it is a bad deal, thats why you are asking.

Martinez39s:
It was a simple question and he stated why he needed your answer. Give simple questions their answers without making unnecessary assumptions. If you then notice in his reply that he is trying to play games you don't like, freely withdraw and ignore.

Dliquidmetal:
in all honesty what do you want from the lady?

Martinez39s:
^{NB: this is not personal. I felt I had to address some things. I am sure you know like I do that disagreements or constructive criticisms do not mean bad intentions or hostility. I might go amiss in my assessment of things, but nothing wrong in giving a honest take. I have been writing this since afternoon and it was the last thing I wanted to post before coming back on Friday to make any significant contribution.}

• POST ONE
If we are to be honest with ourselves, this sarcasm was a subtle mockery and jab at Ubuñja's post [url=HERE]https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/876#107045259[/url] Ubuñja simply made his post in response to a question ask by lightwáy. You see, Ubuñja didn't and has never said you should be abusive towards your girlfriend; hardly will you see a redpiller here that supports being abusive or toxic to your gf. Such misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what was being conveyed by Ubunja probably came a place of emotions and needless antagonistic attitude; could this be as a result of a past clash? Only you can tell. You have even done this to me in the past.

Lightwày simply observed a phenomenon and asked Ubuñja if there was an explanation to it. Ubuñja simply cast light on the phenomenon, nothing more or less. In as much as I and others agree with some or all you ended up saying, it doesn't change the fact that the phenomenon of girls going back to their supposed abusive ex-boyfriends is a thing and will always be a thing. All Ubuñja did was reveal the red pill on this reality, one of the purposes why this thread was created. He made his contribution on how the rabbit hole goes, and that doesn't mean that he endorsed being abusive or toxic. You don't need to be a bad boy or "a dragon" to know, believe, or suspect that women are attracted to bad boys or "dragons." This subtle jab was needless and it would have been better if you towed the discussion route and presented your disapproval.

Who ever said you MUST be who you are not? I observe that when you let your emotions or whatever you have against someone get the better of you, you tend to misrepresent a lot and speak irrationally, and you remain stubborn when doing this (especially when called out). While persisting in this, you think it is okay since "you are not among the crowd." You have done this to me before. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean you are not capable of being logical (as you have shown many times) or you don't know one or two things about the red pill. It also doesn't mean others can't learn from you. However, is there not a way you can do better in this aspect? Isn't it high time you improve on this?


You even have preconceived notion about redpillers here and yet again you have showed your failure to do your due diligence and aptly comprehend. More misrepresentation. No one, or most redpillers here at least, claims or boasts to be a bad ass, arrogant, selfish, and amoral bad boy neither has such image been advocated as the norm. The highest you have are people who will outrightly declare that they don't condone simping even in their personal lives, and you don't have to be like the bad boys to stop simping.

Someone talking about the reality of the bad boys (a red pill topic) doesn't necessarily mean the someone is painting himself to be a bad boy or is advocating the bad boy lifestyle as the norm that all must follow. Get your feelings and antagonistic attitude out of this. Also, people here discussing the reality of the bad boys doesn't mean they are making being a bad boy what the redpill is all about. The redpillers you see here are people who know to varying degrees how the rabbit hole goes and they have simply gathered to iron it all out and exchange perspective to help themselves and other readers understand and grow futher in the red pill. What you choose to think of them and your preconceived notions about them are up to you and it is best you leave your emotions out of it; you don't even know them in person. This was the same way the act of someone simply discussing about married women and that of people encouraging him to share what he has to say were emotionally misconstrued as an endorsement of having sex with married women to all, and it was also misconstrued as attempts of people trying to make sex with married women what the red pill here is about. This was the same way people erroneously saw the acknowledgement of the amoral nature of the red pill as a declaration, support and recommendation of immorality and wicked deeds.

However we think of it or how we choose to live our lives, the reality of the bad boys will remain what it is, same as other aspects of reality. Any negative view you have of any redpiller here and whatever antagonistic attitude you have towards anyone here for whatever reason should be done way with for the better. Funny enough, the people you find distasteful, or nurse antagonistic attitude towards, don't feel the same way towards you. They may disagree with your actions/idea or criticise your ideas/action, but it doesn't mean they have anything against your person. Also, if called out or criticised, have the humility to admit fault and take correction if need be. There is no competition on who sabi pass, on who is the toughest or on who is right; everyone here has nothing to prove to anyone. All that matters is understanding how the rabbit hole goes and our combine efforts towards achieving this.

This can be very misleading and potentially disastrous. Be yourself? If one is a simp and Mr. Nice Guy, should this be applied as well? Come on! With the red pill, one would see that certain things about themselves and the way they usually do things would yield bad results and take them nowhere in their dealings with women (whether for sex, short- or long-term relationships, or in other dealings like workplace interaction) hence the need to modify or discard these... for the better. You can't apply the red pill and remain the same person you were before the red pill. Obviously, this is not to say that one should be immoral or wickedly brute in anyway. One can still be moral and be redpilled, but it doesn't change the reality of the red pill. Whether we like it or not, being Mr Nice Guy will take you nowhere with women.

As far as the redpilled is concerned, rather than trying to be yourself, I would say you should try to figure out what works and abide by them even if it means making necessary changes. Such changes could be as simple as not simping, mastering your sexual urges and maintaining frame.


SMH. Women are hòes and cheats, but not all men are aware of this. We can agree to disagree here. Whether you like it or not, you will have to be alpha to the woman you are involved with if you want the best results and outcomes, except alpha means something else to you. No matter how you are convinced that you are finding the so called right woman that matches your energy or brings the best out of you or whatever, it wouldn't change the fact that female nature is universal and will always take its course. This is not to say that you must force yourself on any female that doesn't want you; no one here has ever said that (not among the same people who preach the abundance mindset). The same blue pill lapses that will yield bad results with females you consider "wrong women" are the same that would yield bad results with the women you consider "right women."  Also, repeating our red pill tenets doesn't belittle us in anyway or equate us with deluded and disingenuous feminists.

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Finally, don't reduce the red pill to just common sense and simple logic. The red pill is more that; common sense and simple logic are not sufficient in telling anyone how the rabbit hole goes. One can only ride on common sense and simple logic to an extent, but the ignorance will still be there. What one encounters in the red pill might be counterintuitive, shocking or surprising to the sense, morality and reasoning of the conventional mind, but we must take it for what it is.

Martinez39s:
He is deliberately lifting right from the female play book. Funny enough, a lot of females are criticising him for the tweet.

CAPSLOCKED:


WHEN GIRLS DUMP POOR MEN, OR ABANDON THE ONES THAT SPONSORED THEIR EDUCATION, OR LEAVE THEIR HARDWORKING BUT STRUGGLING GUY FOR THE GUY THAT WILL BUY THEM CLOTHES AND PHONES, WOMEN REMIND US THESE WOMEN ARE ONLY CHASING HAPPINESS AND THAT WE SHOULD MOVE ON AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, "DATE YOUR LEVEL".

MY GUY SAID ONCE HE MAKES WEALTH HE'LL MOVE ON TO CHASE HAPPINESS AND DATE HIS LEVEL LIKE WOMEN HAS BEEN ADVISING US TO FOR MANY DECADES.
BUT WOMEN ARE CRITICIZING HIM. WHY?

BECAUSE EVERYTHING GOOD MUST GO TO WOMEN, AND MEN MUST RECEIVE DAMAGES. WOMEN MUST BE MADE HAPPY AT ALL TIMES AND MEN MUST WORK TO PLEASE THEM 24/7. THIS IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS THESE DAYS. DON'T YOU SEE IT IN MOVIES AND EVERYWHERE ELSE?

FELLAS, IN THIS LIFE, ALWAYS PUT YOU AND YOURS FIRST. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL HAVE PEACE OF MIND AND SUCCEED.

Oyin2212:

Allow the guy to answer, I want his own thought

Raalsalghul:
https://www.nairaland.com/6822178/anger-vengeance-taking-best-part#107098290


Guys please weigh in on above thread.

ubunja:
men chase a woman they want using money,by spending on her.

Women chase a man they want using sex, by sleeping with him. For women Lust is the Thrill of the chase.

The moment you tell a girl "I love you" before bleeping her, she sees you as a cheap slut and a hoe. Because you committed over nothing. You're cheap and a loser. A woman wants to Bleep you till you fall in love with her. Then she feels like she earned you. She sees you as hard to get and valuable. When you understand this dynamic you've graduated in the Game.

But these are things we can't discuss deeply at the moment. I've never even touched on these themes too much even on the Miseducations. Players, macks and P1mps operate at this level.

Oyin2212:
Bro I see your view on this thread are mostly morally conscious and you don't go with the herd. I would love your opinion on this.
Do you believe that if you're providing a woman with attention, resources and time and you're not getting sex in return, then it's a bad deal?

Martinez39s:
^{NB: this is not personal. I felt I had to address some things. I am sure you know like I do that disagreements or constructive criticisms do not mean bad intentions or hostility. I might go amiss in my assessment of things, but nothing wrong in giving a honest take. I have been writing this since afternoon and it was the last thing I wanted to post before coming back on Friday to make any significant contribution.}

• POST ONE
If we are to be honest with ourselves, this sarcasm was a subtle mockery and jab at Ubuñja's post [url=HERE]https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/876#107045259[/url] Ubuñja simply made his post in response to a question ask by lightwáy. You see, Ubuñja didn't and has never said you should be abusive towards your girlfriend; hardly will you see a redpiller here that supports being abusive or toxic to your gf. Such misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what was being conveyed by Ubunja probably came a place of emotions and needless antagonistic attitude; could this be as a result of a past clash? Only you can tell. You have even done this to me in the past.

[/b]Lightwày simply observed a phenomenon and asked Ubuñja if there was an explanation to it. Ubuñja simply cast light on the phenomenon, nothing more or less. In as much as I and others agree with some or all you ended up saying, it doesn't change the fact that the phenomenon of girls going back to their supposed abusive ex-boyfriends is a thing and will always be a thing.[b] All Ubuñja did was reveal the red pill on this reality, one of the purposes why this thread was created. He made his contribution on how the rabbit hole goes, and that doesn't mean that he endorsed being abusive or toxic. You don't need to be a bad boy or "a dragon" to know, believe, or suspect that women are attracted to bad boys or "dragons." This subtle jab was needless and it would have been better if you towed the discussion route and presented your disapproval.

Who ever said you MUST be who you are not? I observe that when you let your emotions or whatever you have against someone get the better of you, you tend to misrepresent a lot and speak irrationally, and you remain stubborn when doing this (especially when called out). While persisting in this, you think it is okay since "you are not among the crowd." You have done this to me before. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean you are not capable of being logical (as you have shown many times) or you don't know one or two things about the red pill. It also doesn't mean others can't learn from you. However, is there not a way you can do better in this aspect? Isn't it high time you improve on this?


You even have preconceived notion about redpillers here and yet again you have showed your failure to do your due diligence and aptly comprehend. More misrepresentation. No one, or most redpillers here at least, claims or boasts to be a bad ass, arrogant, selfish, and amoral bad boy neither has such image been advocated as the norm. The highest you have are people who will outrightly declare that they don't condone simping even in their personal lives, and you don't have to be like the bad boys to stop simping.

Someone talking about the reality of the bad boys (a red pill topic) doesn't necessarily mean the someone is painting himself to be a bad boy or is advocating the bad boy lifestyle as the norm that all must follow. Get your feelings and antagonistic attitude out of this. Also, people here discussing the reality of the bad boys doesn't mean they are making being a bad boy what the redpill is all about. The redpillers you see here are people who know to varying degrees how the rabbit hole goes and they have simply gathered to iron it all out and exchange perspective to help themselves and other readers understand and grow futher in the red pill. What you choose to think of them and your preconceived notions about them are up to you and it is best you leave your emotions out of it; you don't even know them in person. This was the same way the act of someone simply discussing about married women and that of people encouraging him to share what he has to say were emotionally misconstrued as an endorsement of having sex with married women to all, and it was also misconstrued as attempts of people trying to make sex with married women what the red pill here is about. This was the same way people erroneously saw the acknowledgement of the amoral nature of the red pill as a declaration, support and recommendation of immorality and wicked deeds.

However we think of it or how we choose to live our lives, the reality of the bad boys will remain what it is, same as other aspects of reality. Any negative view you have of any redpiller here and whatever antagonistic attitude you have towards anyone here for whatever reason should be done way with for the better. Funny enough, the people you find distasteful, or nurse antagonistic attitude towards, don't feel the same way towards you. They may disagree with your actions/idea or criticise your ideas/action, but it doesn't mean they have anything against your person. Also, if called out or criticised, have the humility to admit fault and take correction if need be. There is no competition on who sabi pass, on who is the toughest or on who is right; everyone here has nothing to prove to anyone. All that matters is understanding how the rabbit hole goes and our combine efforts towards achieving this.

This can be very misleading and potentially disastrous. Be yourself? If one is a simp and Mr. Nice Guy, should this be applied as well? Come on! With the red pill, one would see that certain things about themselves and the way they usually do things would yield bad results and take them nowhere in their dealings with women (whether for sex, short- or long-term relationships, or in other dealings like workplace interaction) hence the need to modify or discard these... for the better. You can't apply the red pill and remain the same person you were before the red pill. Obviously, this is not to say that one should be immoral or wickedly brute in anyway. One can still be moral and be redpilled, but it doesn't change the reality of the red pill. Whether we like it or not, being Mr Nice Guy will take you nowhere with women.

As far as the redpilled is concerned, rather than trying to be yourself, I would say you should try to figure out what works and abide by them even if it means making necessary changes. Such changes could be as simple as not simping, mastering your sexual urges and maintaining frame.


SMH. Women are hòes and cheats, but not all men are aware of this. We can agree to disagree here. Whether you like it or not, you will have to be alpha to the woman you are involved with if you want the best results and outcomes, except alpha means something else to you. No matter how you are convinced that you are finding the so called right woman that matches your energy or brings the best out of you or whatever, it wouldn't change the fact that female nature is universal and will always take its course. This is not to say that you must force yourself on any female that doesn't want you; no one here has ever said that (not among the same people who preach the abundance mindset). The same blue pill lapses that will yield bad results with females you consider "wrong women" are the same that would yield bad results with the women you consider "right women."  Also, repeating our red pill tenets doesn't belittle us in anyway or equate us with deluded and disingenuous feminists.

=========
Finally, don't reduce the red pill to just common sense and simple logic. The red pill is more that; common sense and simple logic are not sufficient in telling anyone how the rabbit hole goes. One can only ride on common sense and simple logic to an extent, but the ignorance will still be there. What one encounters in the red pill might be counterintuitive, shocking or surprising to the sense, morality and reasoning of the conventional mind, but we must take it for what it is.

Smartb0y:
this is deep.
personally,would suggest one go with baby mamaism to escape this marriage onslaught

Tonnyray:
To every investor, not getting his desired ROI is a bad deal.
Cheers bro.

sajmark:
A SIMP just ruined his life after becoming rich and popular on tiktok due to ONEities, He shot his wife and her new lover dead... If only he took the redpill.
Only a simp would be surprised, snap or loose it when his woman cheats on him, Redpillers know better.

bayus2003:
Baba wants to escape the onslaughts . it's a good way to go but it still doesn't totally take out the female nature.