erico2k2:

The watch word is EQUALL OPPORTUNITY, does that exist in GERMANY
I once asked a guy here to tell me how many Nigerians he knows who are Police, Navy,Aair force, Immigration officers or Prison officers in Germany and France, up till date we are waiting still

To me, expecting equal opportunities on foreign soil is even far-fetched sef. I think most people basically emigrate for economic reasons. E. g, most Mexicans that brace all manner of life-threatening hazards just to cross into the u.s aren't expecting equal opportunities per se, but rather job/economic opportunities. Everything else pales in comparison. I think a lot of immigrants fall under this category. They want to work and send money home in peace. And don't mind doing what many locals would consider as menial jobs to achieve that. Such folks don't care much for how tarred their host country's roads are, or how constant their electricity is. Such comforts would hold little meaning to them if they can't work to improve their economic status.

kennyunlimited:
All what you stated here are all lies. Lot of foreigners after study including Nigerians do get very good paying jobs and most don’t speak German.

" very good jobs" indeed.

You can't speak german but want to get good jobs in Germany you are a dreamer.

AkalaJ:


To me, expecting equal opportunities on foreign soil is even far-fetched sef. I think most people basically emigrate for economic reasons. E. g, most Mexicans that brace all manner of life-threatening hazards just to cross into the u.s aren't expecting equal opportunities per se, but rather job/economic opportunities. Everything else pales in comparison. I think a lot of immigrants fall under this category. They want to work and send money home in peace. And don't mind doing what many locals would consider as menial jobs to achieve that. Such folks don't care much for how tarred their host country's roads are, or how constant their electricity is. Such comforts would hold little meaning to them if they can't work to improve their economic status.

What I meant was simple, Places like Germany, what you can do to excel is relatively small, Imagine a country where its hard as a non Eu person to get into their civil service proper!

thebosstrevor1:


" very good jobs" indeed.

You can't speak german but want to get good jobs in Germany you are a dreamer.

He must be high

GreatrAnalyst:


Tax in Germany is very high. True.
Germany has the biggest economy in the whole of Europe. True also.

Foreign students/nationals don't get good paying jobs in Germany? Very false. I personally know at least 5 Nigerians who are doing fine in Germany. A couple of them are close to me. One even got the job as banker while in Nigeria, and he wasn't speaking German. There are Nigerians already there who help there HR recruit from Nigerians by referrals.
Now, aside, Canada, UK, US, Australia, how many 1st world countries are English speaking countries? Does that mean that anyone not going to these few English speaking countries are not doing fine?
Even UAE, you will be astonished to know how much you can earn as a professional...professional not odd job workers. And yet English is not even UAE official language.

You friend is scamming you.

Your friend got a job as a banker in Germany from Nigeria... that is the biggest lie ever.

Nigerian HR In Germany will refer you to what job exactly.

If you can't speak the German language, Oyo is your name.

Prechgold1180:

I have one USA lady pressuring me to come to the USA so we can get married
She even offered to come to Nigeria so she can help with visa and all


I somehow declined bcus I don’t know what I ll face der
I am kinda doing well here and I have over 50 million Naira worth of investment here


So my fear is
I might ruin everything for myself if I travel and to think of it she smokes so hard

At a point I ignored and she threatened to commit suicide

Suicide?? Run Ohh

GreatrAnalyst:


Tax in Germany is very high. True.
Germany has the biggest economy in the whole of Europe. True also.

Foreign students/nationals don't get good paying jobs in Germany? Very false. I personally know at least 5 Nigerians who are doing fine in Germany. A couple of them are close to me. One even got the job as a banker while in Nigeria, and he wasn't speaking German while here, neither was it a requirement. There are Nigerians already there who help their HR recruit from skilled Nigerians by referrals.
Now, aside, Canada, UK, US, Australia, how many 1st world countries are English speaking countries? Does that mean that anyone not going to these few English speaking countries are not doing fine?
Even UAE, you will be astonished to know how much you can earn as a professional...professional not odd job workers. And yet English is not even UAE official language.

Bro do U know how people who cannot speak English feel when they get to Uk, US and Canada??They feel useless and vulnerable.

If you go there illegally, you go suffer ehn so tey you go wish you didn't abandon your family here.

US is still the best country to migrate as an African. Europe is a waste of time.

Germany is a very nice country and by far one of the best in Europe the only problem there is high taxation.. just like UK too them go use task finish your life.. even most Germans prefer to live in other European countries like France.. if I was you I would either go to other countries like France or Netherlands those countries ain't doing bad

afamaustin:
My inlaw that stairs in Germany HV said that he wants to come back in Nigeria that things are going so hard in Germany especially since after covid 19. No work and u pay more of taxes.He even want to sell his property in Nigeria right now.

Hmmm this is Serious

Mitishi:



Hmmmm!

Oga, please explain to me how Volkswagen, Audi, BMW and other companies survived

And talking about individuals, don't say what you are not sure of

Europe in general is where your skills will make way for you.

His point is valid. Taxes are very high in Germany, up to 50%. The companies you mentioned are big corporates. Smaller businesses find it harder

Germany is not a place for capitalism. The country is built on socialism

CrystalSpark:


See this zombie.

Say what you know! It still shocks me that a typical Nigerian (especially a BMC) would adjudge taxation evil. No, Sir! Germany and a lot of these first world nations are self-sufficient because taxes are put to good use. They even have enough to loan your lifeless President.

But no, Nigerians want to enjoy the good things of life, or the lack thereof, without paying taxes.

Seriously the way Nigerians complain of Taxes abroad marvels me and I keep asking, Do they want all those good basic amenities of life for free or what

OBUKOMENA:
Good evening nairalanders! I hope you had a good day?

So, let me just go straight to my reason for opening this thread, and I hope I would be able to convey my thoughts impeccably:

It seems like some of our people who travelled to Germany aren't doing so well after all (I stand to be corrected, though!)
I have a friend over there whom I am preparing to go meet. This guy has been there since 2017. He hardly calls me on normal call. He would rather call on WhatsApp. Reason being so that he could get in touch cheaply. The first and only time I asked him to send me something, he told me pointblank he didn't have.
Just this afternoon, I heard a colleague's father just came back to Nigeria from there after 21 solid years! He had abandoned his wife and children here in Nigeria. If he was doing so well over there, would he not have arranged for his family to come over and stay with him - at least?

I have been worried, even before I heard this colleague's father thing: I don't know what I am going to meet at the friend's place; I don't know what life is like over there - how to cope in a non-English speaking environment. I don't know how long it's going to take me to make it over there and reconnect with my family. This news about my colleague's dad also increased my worries.

So, I decided I would come on here to ask: Aren't these red flags as regards traveling over there, especially with the hope that when i get there, after 2-3 years, I would bring in my family.
Anyone here knows about life in Germany?

first is that you already have a negative mindset about everything so even if you travel down to Germany it will be difficult to make it. Secondly your rating of how successful a man is through his means of communication with you shows how low your iq is (no insult), there is Internet everywhere in Germany and it is affordable so many people communicate more through social media (this is 21st century), that does not mean he can't afford 10Euro card to call you even if he is not working at least he receives nothing less than 320Euro monthly from Government as an unemployed person, that money is approximately 170k in naira. Thirdly is that you are only concerned with people like your colleague's Father without considering others in Germany �� that are doing very well for themselves and their families, so you have chosen side of the fence that you want to belong. Lastly I want to tell you that Germany remains the biggest Economy in the whole of Europe �� and their contribution to the European Union is second to none.
Before I end I will advice you not to only think of how to hammer immediately in Germany as making it in Germany is not a short term project but what is guaranteed is that u must reach your goal if you follow the laid down rules. Also think about the quality of life when you are making comparison the next time.
Shallom.

OBUKOMENA:
Good evening nairalanders! I hope you had a good day?

So, let me just go straight to my reason for opening this thread, and I hope I would be able to convey my thoughts impeccably:

It seems like some of our people who travelled to Germany aren't doing so well after all (I stand to be corrected, though!)
I have a friend over there whom I am preparing to go meet. This guy has been there since 2017. He hardly calls me on normal call. He would rather call on WhatsApp. Reason being so that he could get in touch cheaply. The first and only time I asked him to send me something, he told me pointblank he didn't have.
Just this afternoon, I heard a colleague's father just came back to Nigeria from there after 21 solid years! He had abandoned his wife and children here in Nigeria. If he was doing so well over there, would he not have arranged for his family to come over and stay with him - at least?

I have been worried, even before I heard this colleague's father thing: I don't know what I am going to meet at the friend's place; I don't know what life is like over there - how to cope in a non-English speaking environment. I don't know how long it's going to take me to make it over there and reconnect with my family. This news about my colleague's dad also increased my worries.

So, I decided I would come on here to ask: Aren't these red flags as regards traveling over there, especially with the hope that when i get there, after 2-3 years, I would bring in my family.
Anyone here knows about life in Germany?

Does your friend and colleague father have papers?
If they don't , they will never get a good job , if your reason of traveling abroad is to escape Nigeria without papers , yes you will get there, do odd jobs and you will feed but u won't have as much as u should

If u are earning 6 digits, $1200 is beans na

Cashsteady:
Germany is a very nice country and by far one of the best in Europe the only problem there is high taxation.. just like UK too them go use task finish your life.. even most Germans prefer to live in other European countries like France.. if I was you I would either go to other countries like France or Netherlands those countries ain't doing bad

Name one tax U pay in the Uk and Germany that you do not pay in Nigeria!

bepositive11:


His point is valid. Taxes are very high in Germany, up to 50%. The companies you mentioned are big corporates. Smaller businesses find it harder

Germany is not a place for capitalism. The country is built on socialism

and you know about this 50% tax cos

Gee64:
If you go there illegally, you go suffer ehn so tey you go wish you didn't abandon your family here.

Almost 80% of persons who travel abroad do so illegally cos at some point you must have given some untrue account of your self,
I come in peace!

erico2k2:

and you know about this 50% tax cos

That's like general knowledge. Imagine having to pay that much in taxes. Off goes 50% of your net worth

thebosstrevor1:





You friend is scamming you.

Your friend got a job as a banker in Germany from Nigeria... that is the biggest lie ever.

Nigerian HR In Germany will refer you to what job exactly.

If you can't speak the German language, Oyo is your name.

I am not supposed to reply but let me advise you that it is not good to hold on to a belief that can limit you. Because belief can limit someone. What you don't believe can never happen to you.

I would have shared the person's LinkedIn page who got a job in Germany right when he was here as a banker. ..but no need. Like I said, work on your belief system. What you think is impossible, someone who knows better and believes will experience it while you who don't believe such will pass the opportunity over.

When you guys are saying someone who can't speak German can't live or work in Germany, does that mean there are no international companies in Germany? Do you know at all what they call ex​pa​tri​ates?
Many Nigerian students are studying in Germany with English as the language of tutoring. What does that suggest?

thebosstrevor1:


" very good jobs" indeed.

You can't speak german but want to get good jobs in Germany you are a dreamer.

This guy is just so ignorant. Most IT jobs don't require German. But learning the language gives you more opportunities to more other jobs. These days there are so much jobs out there that many employers are asking the government to let in more immigrants to come work.

OBUKOMENA:
Good evening nairalanders! I hope you had a good day?

So, let me just go straight to my reason for opening this thread, and I hope I would be able to convey my thoughts impeccably:

It seems like some of our people who travelled to Germany aren't doing so well after all (I stand to be corrected, though!)
I have a friend over there whom I am preparing to go meet. This guy has been there since 2017. He hardly calls me on normal call. He would rather call on WhatsApp. Reason being so that he could get in touch cheaply. The first and only time I asked him to send me something, he told me pointblank he didn't have.
Just this afternoon, I heard a colleague's father just came back to Nigeria from there after 21 solid years! He had abandoned his wife and children here in Nigeria. If he was doing so well over there, would he not have arranged for his family to come over and stay with him - at least?

I have been worried, even before I heard this colleague's father thing: I don't know what I am going to meet at the friend's place; I don't know what life is like over there - how to cope in a non-English speaking environment. I don't know how long it's going to take me to make it over there and reconnect with my family. This news about my colleague's dad also increased my worries.

So, I decided I would come on here to ask: Aren't these red flags as regards traveling over there, especially with the hope that when i get there, after 2-3 years, I would bring in my family.
Anyone here knows about life in Germany?

It took me the best part of 2 years to settle down in the UK and I already had a British passport, a university degree from (UI ) and spoke English. You can't be an overnight success in another country it takes hard work and sacrifice.

thebosstrevor1:





You friend is scamming you.

Your friend got a job as a banker in Germany from Nigeria... that is the biggest lie ever.

Nigerian HR In Germany will refer you to what job exactly.

If you can't speak the German language, Oyo is your name.

So you mean there are no multinational companies in Germany? Who is this clown fooling himself?

brandsoncharlie:

You haven't said anything, someone want a general idea of what it is about to live in Germany you're rather writing this long boring write-up.
That's why I like quora, very interesting not this boring naira land.

I have said something valuable. How you live your life abroad determines your success. Go and look up people in Germany here on nairaland. He who fails to plan, plans to fail.

Overall, Germany is the best in Europe.

sosowater:


I have said something valuable. How you live your life abroad determines your success. Go and look up people in Germany here on nairaland. He who fails to plan, plans to fail.

Overall, Germany is the best in Europe.

I will advise the poster to go look elsewhere for adequate information not nairaland.

OBUKOMENA:
Good evening nairalanders! I hope you had a good day?

So, let me just go straight to my reason for opening this thread, and I hope I would be able to convey my thoughts impeccably:

It seems like some of our people who travelled to Germany aren't doing so well after all (I stand to be corrected, though!)
I have a friend over there whom I am preparing to go meet. This guy has been there since 2017. He hardly calls me on normal call. He would rather call on WhatsApp. Reason being so that he could get in touch cheaply. The first and only time I asked him to send me something, he told me pointblank he didn't have.
Just this afternoon, I heard a colleague's father just came back to Nigeria from there after 21 solid years! He had abandoned his wife and children here in Nigeria. If he was doing so well over there, would he not have arranged for his family to come over and stay with him - at least?

I have been worried, even before I heard this colleague's father thing: I don't know what I am going to meet at the friend's place; I don't know what life is like over there - how to cope in a non-English speaking environment. I don't know how long it's going to take me to make it over there and reconnect with my family. This news about my colleague's dad also increased my worries.

So, I decided I would come on here to ask: Aren't these red flags as regards traveling over there, especially with the hope that when i get there, after 2-3 years, I would bring in my family.
Anyone here knows about life in Germany?

the problem with those people wey you mention be say, dem lazy to learn their language. If you no sabi German, you no fit work there. But their language had small too o but if you learn the language b4 leaving, rest assured, you go make am there.

AkalaJ:


Maybe you should reread my post to grasp the crux of my comment. Since the Op is feeling conflicted about emigrating to Germany on account of the economic status (either real or imagined) of others that are either there presently or once lived there, then maybe he needs to reevaluate his purpose for going abroad, lest he ends up disappointed.

The best that any foreign country can offer an immigrant are better economic opportunities. But even with that, such countries are bound to present their own unique challenges. Therefore, intended immigrants should 'shine their eyes' and manage their expectations so that they don't end up disappointed. Comprende??

I understand your point
Thanks

Drella:


The only time people abroad call me with whatsapp is when my network is bad on normal phone call.
I don't think it's as expensive for them as it is for us.

Also,I feel he is not the only one asking that friend for money.How many people does he want to send to?


@ fieryy do you have any input for the OP?

Sosowater has already stated everything I would have

bepositive11:


That's like general knowledge. Imagine having to pay that much in taxes. Off goes 50% of your net worth

I want xplanation ahaha

thebosstrevor1:


" very good jobs" indeed.

You can't speak german but want to get good jobs in Germany you are a dreamer.

German isn't necessary if you're working in tech.

calebfm:
the problem with those people wey you mention be say, dem lazy to learn their language. If you no sabi German, you no fit work there. But their language had small too o but if you learn the language b4 leaving, rest assured, you go make am there.

for your mind you can learn the language and be able to fill an online application form and write a CV in German abi??