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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 1:02pm On Oct 28, 2021
CaveAdullam:


The problem with you guys is that you want women to be what they are not. The sexes are different! Get it! Yes, it is good that everyone should develop himself or herself in many ramifications and be versatile. But expecting women to be pragmatic, rational, risk takers, brave, independent and strong as men is impossible. In fact, this is egalitarianism which is been fought for in many countries with chaos as the resultant effect.

If you want an intelligent discussion find an intelligent group or club, or visit the library. If you want good counseling find an elderly male forum. In all, leave women out of it in whatever solution you seek for in life because they can't give you the relevant information.

Women are for fun and fvcks! Despite that, if a woman proves to transcend above this, fine, flow with her. But if not, follow the tides because they can't.

Know women for what they are and maneuver your ways around them. You can't change them, so don't even try!

Have a nice day.

Well said. It actually took me a while to accept this. I was thinking and hoping there should be more other than fun and sex.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Emotionss: 1:10pm On Oct 28, 2021
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Someoneschild2:
cool

I have been saying this and will continue to say it.

Any man that listens to women or even society in general on how a real man is supposed to Act and React especially towards the misadventures of women deserves to be castrated without anesthesia.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 2:44pm On Oct 28, 2021
cool
Never forget this.
Once you start catch feelings and get emotionally attached you are finished,she controls the frame,do the needful
Don't let her virginity, feminity and beauty mislead you

THESE HOES AIN'T LOYAL
AWALT
STAY TOXIC

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by TheDarkGamer: 4:02pm On Oct 28, 2021
https://www.nairaland.com/6824743/gender-roles-effect-sexuality


I’ve noticed a lot of talk surrounding the issue of hypocrisy and double standards between the male and female genders. There are a lot of instances and situations that I can cite from, but I would like to give my take on the issue of sexuality.

Nowadays, a lot of people (women and men) complain about how the society praises men for sexual exploits, while women are reprimanded. They also say that men can sleep around with as many women as they want, while women are not supported the same way when they sleep around too.

This issue should be a very simple one to understand, but the decadence of society has made this seem very complicated. Feminism has tried to eliminate or re-invent societal gender roles, and this is a contributor to the situation I mentioned above.

Let me give a backstory, before I address this issue.

Since the beginning of time, men and women have had separate gender roles which defined them, made them to live together in harmony and led to the progress of civilization. Naturally, men are seen as the protectors and providers. According to societal standards, a man is expected to provide security for his family and contribute his quota to his community, he is also expected to provide financial security for himself and his family, he is also expected to go to war and sacrifice himself for the protection of the rest of his community/state (which mainly consists of children and women). I believe that this is a fair summary of a man’s roles.

This mainly applied to pre-modern times but it still functions nowadays. The man is expected to take care of his family and provide financial security for them, a man is also expected to perform all these duties to a woman that he is in a relationship with, a man is also expected to be chivalrous and make females around him comfortable (even if it’s to his detriment), and lastly a man still goes to war in these modern times. By war, I mean taking up the hardest jobs (which contributes to the high percentage of male deaths from workplace accidents), being in the army or security outfits (most security personnel are predominantly males), he is expected to be a “man” and stand up to threats against his family or other women in the society, etc.

On the other hand, a woman was expected to support the man in his endeavors. This makes sense, considering the responsibilities a man naturally had to carry and face in the society. She was also expected to be sexually chaste (for a number of reasons). She basically had to take care of the children, run the home, and be a support system for the male. This should be a basic summary of the woman’s duties in pre-modern times.

Now, a lot of people would call this oppression, but I beg to differ. While there were some situations in which women had higher restrictions than men, this is totally different. The reason why men were ‘seemingly’ in charge in ‘patriarchy’ was simply because they had more responsibilities than women. They had to risk their lives, ensure the protection of others and still develop the world, so it makes sense that they had more rights than women. Think of it this way, in a company two people work for an employer but they don’t equally have the same salaries and benefits. This is because the higher earner is probably more qualified, more intelligent, takes higher risk, works harder, has more experience, etc. So, in essence, more responsibilities= more rights. This also applied to the relationship between males and females.

Also, back then the world relied on the strength of men for protection, guidance, technology and daily living. This also contributed to them having more rights. However, with technological advancements (still mostly created by men, of course), women could level the playing field and perform almost the same functions as men. This lead to advocating of female rights and the propaganda of oppression and patriarchy.

I am not against that, but I believe that for females and males to be ‘equal’ or share ‘equal rights’ in a society, they should also carry out the same responsibilities. It’s simple logic. I would like to veer a bit into feminism and our society but this is not the purpose of this post, so I’ll adjourn that.
Now, how does this all relate to sexuality and double standards?

Females nowadays lament that men have a leeway to be sexually free without repercussions, but that does not apply to them. My take is that this happens because we don’t understand our gender roles as men and women in the society. Men and women are treated differently. This has advantages and disadvantages for each gender.

Now, if females also say that they don’t want to be sexually chaste and they want to engage in immorality freely, they should be ready to accept the same situation when men agree to forsake their roles. In this era of feminism, women are pushing boundaries and re-writing rules for themselves, but men are still stuck following the same set of old rules. Men are still expected to be chivalrous, protectors, providers, etc. while women see supporting men or maintaining sexual morality as oppression. If truly feminism is about equality between the genders, then men should also be encouraged to put themselves first and not engage in those traditional roles that they are subjected to.
Women (and shockingly some men) would try to disparage virginity and play it down, but will still dictate to men, “How a REAL man should act”. They would still expect men to pay for dates, accept the hardest and most depraving jobs, protect them in times of need, etc. I disagree with that, besides what a man can do, a woman can do better, and so all these responsibilities should be taken up by women too. But, as usual feminists and some people in the society would ignore this issue.

If you feel that traditional gender roles are oppressive and you want to re-write gender roles, then create roles that are equal and can encompass both genders. So, as women make statements like “My body, my rules”, or try to speak negatively about virginity, etc. men should also abandon roles such as protecting women, providing for them (especially in relationships which women take advantage of), etc. Women would claim that their sexuality is oppressed, but I also find it oppressive when the same women reverse roles and feel entitled to a man’s money, protection, etc. They should be able to do these themselves.

Lastly, another reason why sex is seeming repressed amongst women is that sex has more negative effects on women than men. The risk of sexual infections from multiple partners and the emotional connection that women seem to make with their sexual partners also contribute to this. With men, these do not affect them as much as it does to women.

So, I hope this gives you an insight into the reason why women are held more accountable in terms of sexuality than men. Men are held more accountable in terms of commitment, provision, protection, etc. It’s just how society and nature works. Society found a balance between these gender roles and humans have been able to live in harmony, until these “woke” times. I’m sure you’ve heard the statement that women are gatekeepers of sex, while men are the gatekeepers of commitment. That statement explains a lot.

These roles also apply to animals.

Think about it.

NB: This post does not contain all factors that contribute to this situation. This is just a basic premise.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Someoneschild2: 4:36pm On Oct 28, 2021
Truth is life.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 4:43pm On Oct 28, 2021
KiNg0G:

if we start to talk about bitcoin here na, or 2odss put 10k it nor go make sense.
other threads dey for that bros, with different business ideals just check the investment forum.
op who created this thread made it strictly redpill if you check first pages u go understand, that's why men dey adhere to it....if not this place for don crash.

Ok

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Astrid4(m): 6:17pm On Oct 28, 2021
At 22 she has seen ,more...

1 street than Google map

2 BALLS than Ronaldo

3 Boxers than Mike Tyson

4 alcohol and drugs than Britney Spears

5 clubs than 50 cent

#staytoxic
#staytaliban

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Astrid4(m): 6:19pm On Oct 28, 2021
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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Astrid4(m): 6:20pm On Oct 28, 2021
#staytoxic
#staytaliban

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 6:51pm On Oct 28, 2021
grin

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by DarkCaesar(m): 7:00pm On Oct 28, 2021
Trust these girls at your own destruction, this is a girl her bf can swore her loyalty with his left eye….she no dey comot for house after she come back from work, she be church girl bla bla bla……make I use prick reset her brain if I don come back tomorrow.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by luminouz(m): 7:13pm On Oct 28, 2021
DarkCaesar:
Trust these girls at your own destruction, this is a girl her bf can swore her loyalty with his left eye….she no dey comot for house after she come back from work, she be church girl bla bla bla……make I use prick reset her brain if I don come back tomorrow.

Please don't lash her ..be a gentleman you mudafucker!!! cheesy cheesy


Women will cheat with whoever they fancy...it's the golden rule of hypergamy
N.B: She is even working sef....wtf is the 30k bill for?

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by DarkCaesar(m): 7:17pm On Oct 28, 2021
Santanarhetoric:
I've been following this thread from day one and its really life changing
but why it's it all about
pussy this and pussy that
develop yourself
make money
go to gym
be confident,etc
but the OGs here doesn't say how to make money....we can't be confident for no reason as only a fool would do that.. confidence has to come for a reason
Pls share some ways to make money
I think money can make you confident (at least 50%)
go to business and investment section if you are interested in making money, we tell you say na business oriented thread be this?

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by DarkCaesar(m): 7:25pm On Oct 28, 2021
luminouz:


Please don't lash her ..be a gentleman you mudafucker!!! cheesy cheesy


Women will cheat with whoever they fancy...it's the golden rule of hypergamy
N.B: She is even working sef....wtf is the 30k bill for?
na only her sabi why she Dey bill me and this girl fit form holy holy like say tomorrow no dey

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by DEMZEE(m): 7:54pm On Oct 28, 2021
DarkCaesar:
Trust these girls at your own destruction, this is a girl her bf can swore her loyalty with his left eye….she no dey comot for house after she come back from work, she be church girl bla bla bla……make I use prick reset her brain if I don come back tomorrow.

chai this one wan sell her pussy for 30k sha

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by UncleJudax(m): 8:08pm On Oct 28, 2021
Herbsworks:
When we advice some men not to build their world around their wives and kids they’ll say you’re a sadist, misogynist etc grin
The day she discovers you can’t live without her is the day she will start misbehaving.

A friend of mine who was doing well got married to his wife after she hooked him down with pregnancy. Since then his life changed. After sacrificing everything he had to make her comfortable. Made her a housewife, bought a Benz for her to be doing big madam, enrolled the kids in one of the best school in the south south because there was money; Telecom money grin

Then things started dwindling after Chinese companies took over telecom and rubbished the industry. Had to sell his personal car as well as the car the wife was using. Every company he went into had one or two reasons to sack him. He got into problem with his previous company and he was arrested. Can you believe this his wife could not raise 5k to bail him out? He had to be remanded in prison.

After he was released, he took some loan and sent to his wife to pay up the rent instead she took the money, the kids and ran away with no trace. When the going was good she was there but when things went south she was nowhere to be found. I know some men will say NAWALT until they find themselves in that situation with nowhere else to turn to.

If you go broke today will your girlfriend/fiancée/wife that is acting all lovey dovey stay for 1 year without reminding you how a failure you are?

As you’re hustling day and night for your family, don’t forget to take care of yourself cos las las you may be all you’ve got left.
An ex-tenant of a family friend had a similar experience. He was working for a German coy. The company was paying his rent (duplex). His wife was even making trouble with the landlords wife (something to do with the kids) because, well , the landlord and tenant use the same gate (Lekki Phase1). One year after the man lost his job and company stopped paying the rent, they were booted out and some of their assets withheld (for not paying up). One day the wife came to the landlord and asked to be allowed to take her own things because she is no longer with...wait for it...that stupid man. grin

In this life, as a man...take care of yourself before any other mfucker.

Anyway: I dont even understand why people marry because some lady says she is pregnant. Ha! Bitch born the pikin, i de. but you not gonna alter my plans in any way...pregy or not.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by bayus2003(m): 8:30pm On Oct 28, 2021
DEMZEE:


chai this one wan sell her pussy for 30k sha
oga some nigga fit don chop that same pucci for free.... tongue

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 8:37pm On Oct 28, 2021
DarkCaesar:
Trust these girls at your own destruction, this is a girl her bf can swore her loyalty with his left eye….she no dey comot for house after she come back from work, she be church girl bla bla bla……make I use prick reset her brain if I don come back tomorrow.
post her pics but blur her face let's see if she's worth your time.

noticed I said TIME.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by DEMZEE(m): 8:42pm On Oct 28, 2021
bayus2003:
oga some nigga fit don chop that same pucci for free.... tongue

No cap bruh

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 8:53pm On Oct 28, 2021
Santanarhetoric:
I've been following this thread from day one and its really life changing
but why it's it all about
pussy this and pussy that
develop yourself
make money
go to gym
be confident,etc
but the OGs here doesn't say how to make money....we can't be confident for no reason as only a fool would do that.. confidence has to come for a reason
Pls share some ways to make money
I think money can make you confident (at least 50%)

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by SOZINN: 9:24pm On Oct 28, 2021
DarkCaesar:
Trust these girls at your own destruction, this is a girl her bf can swore her loyalty with his left eye….she no dey comot for house after she come back from work, she be church girl bla bla bla……make I use prick reset her brain if I don come back tomorrow.


Please, fûck her hard and make her beg for more. I want you to utilize all your skills.
She must call you again and again.
Don't disappoint the brother hood.
You have my blessing.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Tonnyray: 9:46pm On Oct 28, 2021
Somebody please lead me back to the redpill thread I think I mistakenly stumbled into the ashewo beer parlor thread.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by UncleJudax(m): 9:52pm On Oct 28, 2021
DEMZEE:


chai this one wan sell her pussy for 30k sha
she has sold it many times for less.

it is what it is.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by LutanFyah: 10:12pm On Oct 28, 2021
Santanarhetoric:
I've been following this thread from day one and its really life changing
but why it's it all about
pussy this and pussy that
develop yourself
make money
go to gym
be confident,etc
but the OGs here doesn't say how to make money....we can't be confident for no reason as only a fool would do that.. confidence has to come for a reason
Pls share some ways to make money
I think money can make you confident (at least 50%)
Learn trading (FX / CRYPTO), practice everyday on demo like your life depends on it for at least 6 months before going live.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Tonnyray: 11:04pm On Oct 28, 2021
CaveAdullam:


1. As far as I can understand and coming to that reality, I think men are seeking for what isn't in women's prescient. Men are loyal, kind, compassionate, intelligent, pragmatic, but they've been mesmerized to see women as their equal and thereby making them seek these qualities inherent in them in women.

2. Men must understand that women are ruled by emotions, fickle, weak and fluid. Only few women and of course who happens to be the exception are able to manage themselves effectively. The majority of women except being led by a man cannot amount to anything.

3. The problem is that on an individual level every one wants to score points with the other gender; men wants sex and women want fun and money.

4. The hope of civilization and anything the world will amount to be it more development or destruction rests on the shoulders of men. Leadership is a skill, if men decide to tolerate womens' exuberances, for the sake of pvssys rather than controlling them, there will be non stop to the menace of female entitlement which has a corrollary effect at home, workplace, politics, economics and society at large.

5. "Good/Real" women don't exist. If you want to get the "best" woman you must search for a society that still possess strains and fibres of real traditional patriarchy. However, you must also raise her there/in that same condition, and that's where the problem lies because taking her from that environment to a new one will completely change her behavior. Remember: women are fluid and fickle.

NB: "condition" here is not maltreatment nor withholding of welfare.

6. To get the best from a woman you must be able to blend yourself with her emotions and leverage it for good. This is going to a sword fight(emotion) with a sword rather than with a gun(logic). Because "good women" are not BORN BUT BRED!

7. You must impose your authority on a woman. People will say you're weak, dominneering, scared but the truth is that she's your property(you paid bride price right?) and you're just trying to maximise good results. That's same way mothers cater for their youngs.

8. Women don't come as a full package completely and same as men. There's always ying in the yang or vice versa. It's your duty to inculcate and extrapolate such qualities from her. Do you now see why many of the greatest scientists never really engaged full time with women? Someone even said that Jesus Christ is REDPILL! Lol!

NB: Women can only turn infants into teenagers. But an alteration from teenagers to both men and women; kings and queens is under the sole jurisdiction of a VIRILE MALE FIGURE!

9. All male that will eventually decide to enter long term relationship with a woman should start taking leadership positions anywhere they find themselves instead of shying away. Then and there they'll experience female hysterical behaviours, hubris and confusion in landscape position.

10. On a large scale, it will only take serious governmental policies and legislation to bring some level of sanity to present day society. Where the law is gynocentric men are reticent.

You can't differentiate a good(real) woman from a bad(fake) woman. To know and get a good one, you must bred it yourself. You want some omelettes? Break eggs.

Thanks.
Selah

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Nobody: 2:40am On Oct 29, 2021
luminouz:


Lmaooooo@the sniper trick. That geh is missing your juices(and your money too). She is trying to get your attention by posting sniper and all that shiit. My reply would have been a K!!! She won't drink the sniper I tell you. Attention is a drug to women and it's your greatest weapon as a man. Your attention is so precious,so you give it to those deserving of it,not everyone.

Lemme let you in on one secret. Have you ever noticed how some girls would seem so needy when you ignore them for a while? It's simple. Their attention drug is running out. Other niggas at that time weren't giving them attention(money and sex are cousins) and suddenly they remember your black ass and start to act like they can't do without you. It's all BS. Imagine a girl saying she dey chat Luminouz up when she is bored, 3 months after her last chat and suddenly I am supposed to leave my shiit and be her father confessor or what? I simply read the chat and never reply. That shows her that I'm not her support system or counselor to be contacted anytime she feels like,when she clearly didn't involve me in her life EHEN SHE WASNT BORED!! Coincidentally, most of them have bf issues at that time? Get the dig? They want a shoulder to cry on(or leech on) and I just don't dig all that. They always start with that annoying 'na so life be? You no even ask of me? You forgot me and it's so unfair? Shut dafuq up!! What am I, a piece of Dresden China,to be needed or contacted when your mood is south-south instead of North central?

Once you rush to answer their call and give them attention, you validate their existence and in a week's time, she vamooses again,only to crop up when she wants you to soothe her frayed nerves. Such women drain you quicker than tiger battery. Since she is not contributing to your ass in any way, don't give her that ATTENTION. Let them WORK for it. Shows you value your time and life too.

3 girls behaved like the scenario you posted (without the sniper of course). All 3 hadn't chatted me in 3 months but suddenly blew my phone up to tell me how one lost a job, another needed money and another had bf issues and they all want Luminouz to settle their cases. Yet, when the going was good, they never chatted me up or behaved like I existed. The one with bf issue even said she was so depressed and she wanted me to be chatting her up and calling her to console her. I be like...ARE YOU MAD? So my purpose in life is become your daily MTN? Naso she comported herself and apologized. When I saw her at an eatery 3 months later, she avoided me like a plague. Being nice is often misconstrued by women as weakness and as a man,you need to set them straight.

Conclusion: Your attention is your Bitcoin, Spend it wisely. Not all women talk about sex or exist for sex,from my experience. Some are intellectual enough (or maybe I choose these ones as sexy without being brainy is a huge turnoff for me). The last thing I need is a big ass bimbo who can't hold a conversation on basic topics. After fuqin, won't we talk before the next day? I'd be bored outta my mind grin

Lol. Lotta sense. Well said.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by ubunja(m): 5:52am On Oct 29, 2021
Paternity Test things...

DNA test kits just became widely available to the South African public at 1,2K. How much is this in naira?

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by CaveAdullam: 6:13am On Oct 29, 2021
ubunja:
Paternity Test things...

DNA test kits just became widely available to the South African public at 1,2K. How much is this in naira?

#32,400.

If the accuracies of these kits are high...at least some men will be save.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by CaveAdullam: 6:15am On Oct 29, 2021
DAY 302, REDPILL 2021

Genuine desire fvcks before going out for a date!

Authority: don't be a simp.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Chiagozieking: 7:24am On Oct 29, 2021
CaveAdullam:
DAY 302, REDPILL 2021

Genuine desire fvcks before going out for a date!

Authority: don't be a simp.


#Trust

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Oyin2212(m): 7:57am On Oct 29, 2021
TheDarkGamer:
https://www.nairaland.com/6824743/gender-roles-effect-sexuality




If you feel that traditional gender roles are oppressive and you want to re-write gender roles, then create roles that are equal and can encompass both genders. So, as women make statements like “My body, my rules”, or try to speak negatively about virginity, etc. men should also abandon roles such as protecting women, providing for them (especially in relationships which women take advantage of), etc. Women would claim that their sexuality is oppressed, but I also find it oppressive when the same women reverse roles and feel entitled to a man’s money, protection, etc. They should be able to do these themselves.

Lastly, another reason why sex is seeming repressed amongst women is that sex has more negative effects on women than men. The risk of sexual infections from multiple partners and the emotional connection that women seem to make with their sexual partners also contribute to this. With men, these do not affect them as much as it does to women.

So, I hope this gives you an insight into the reason why women are held more accountable in terms of sexuality than men. Men are held more accountable in terms of commitment, provision, protection, etc. It’s just how society and nature works. Society found a balance between these gender roles and humans have been able to live in harmony, until these “woke” times. I’m sure you’ve heard the statement that women are gatekeepers of sex, while men are the gatekeepers of commitment. That statement explains a lot.

These roles also apply to animals.

Think about it.

NB: This post does not contain all factors that contribute to this situation. This is just a basic premise.
Love this write-up. It explains a lot.

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Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by SOZINN: 8:17am On Oct 29, 2021
UncleJudax:

she has sold it many times for less.

it is what it is.

She has even given it for free.

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