raumdeuter:


How was Bayern top of their game then when Klopp won? The time Bayern got on top of their game in the treble season,, he finished 25points behind Bayern



Has Klopp shown he can do it at a high pressure environment like Madrid or do you think Madrid will allow him stay 3 seasons without a trophy?

Klopp is a great coach but he has never shown that he can win in a high pressure environment and ego filled dressing room like Zidane did

Klopp prefers projects without pressure where they will give him time. If Klopp leaves Liverpool next stop might be AC Milan. A club without much expectations and will give him time

Jodera:

1... Dortmund won their last trophy in 2001/2002. So it took them 10yrs in the wilderness and a different breed of players before they could win it again with klopp and you want to sweep that under the carpet?? It's like arsenal winning the league next season and then their fans claim it's normal cos Wenger last won it 2004. Lol

2... How many finals did he bottle
1 carabao cup in his debut season
1 Europa in his first full season
1 Cl final in his 2nd season

While you see bottling, I'm seeing progress. Little wonder he won the league and Cl after his 2nd full season.

You'll call his Dortmund Cl loss as another bottling, but you fail to talk how he waya Bayern 6-1 in the finals in their German fa cup alongside winning the league. This una "klopp is failure finalist" won't fly


3... Which coach no dey get issue with star players sometimes? Is it having issues with players OR resolving the issues after that is the koko?
Klopp and Mane have resolved their issues, so why are you still saying they're having issues?

moreover, let's close our eyes to the fact that Zidane and bale no get issues.

Lastly, I'm not talking about grassroot here. Pep is one of the best coach in world football same as klopp. Zidane no be their mate. Make zidane go drag with tuchel

raumdeuter:


Klopp did the same thing Wolfsburg and Stuttgart did. They caught Bayern at a period of weakness and won the league

By 2013, Klopp was finishing 25points behind Bayern

A40:
I actually admire Klopp's style and man management but there's a reason he will always avoid the big clubs with high expectations like a plague

liveLongNprospa:


Madrid finished 2pts shy of which second when Zidane took over?

Both times Zidane took over, our season was horrible.
First with from Benitez then from Solari (I hope that's the correct spelling)

Jodera:
Bayern won the league 2007/08 and 09/10. After that, they've won it consecutively from 2013 upwards. If a team who won the league 2/3 years is not top of the game, I don't know what top of the game means then.

Klopp has shown that even with his team who aren't World class, he can slug it out with the very best and playing entertainment football while giving results.

Did Bayern go for klopp before his stint with Dortmund and he turned it down?
Did man u go for klopp immediately Ferguson retired and he turned it down?

So if the big clubs did not come for him at the right time, how is it his fault? So why blame him that he can't manage big clubs wen dey didn't come for him?

Jodera:
Diego Simeone haven't carried CL so there's no comparison.

Zidane is a V.good coach no doubt, but not near klopp. Even his 2nd stint at Madrid have only faded barca (with only messi) and athletico to slug it out with. You can't compare it with klopp Liverpool who have endless money of Man city to drag it with right from the scratch.
When Zidane arrived at R.Madrid, they were a very very top team, you can't say same from klopp at Dortmund or Liverpool

raumdeuter:


Klopp did the same thing Wolfsburg and Stuttgart did. They caught Bayern at a period of weakness and won the league

By 2013, Klopp was finishing 25points behind Bayern

Jodera:
Bayern won the league 2007/08 and 09/10. After that, they've won it consecutively from 2013 upwards. If a team who won the league 2/3 years is not top of the game, I don't know what top of the game means then.

Klopp has shown that even with his team who aren't World class, he can slug it out with the very best and playing entertainment football while giving results.

Did Bayern go for klopp before his stint with Dortmund and he turned it down?
Did man u go for klopp immediately Ferguson retired and he turned it down?

So if the big clubs did not come for him at the right time, how is it his fault? So why blame him that he can't manage big clubs wen dey didn't come for him?

A40:
There were definitely in turmoil else they wouldn't have sacked his predecessor midseason

donstan18:

Ranieri won Epl with Leicester with less expensive players.

Pep won Epl with ManCity after spending millions on players.

Between Pep and Ranieri, who’s better?

Bros Na direct answer I need.

AnfieldFan:


Answer my simple question,

B4 Klopp, when last did Dortmund win the Bundlesliga..
When last did Bayern win it b4 Klopp..
Where the players I mentioned in Bayern when he won it..
Bayern poached Lewandoski, that's enough to kill all the momentum he built..But Lewa isn't the only star you guys poached!

Klopp is generally regarded in football circles as better than Zidane and that's certified...

raumdeuter:


Madrid wey don dirty managers greater than Klopp.

If we had this argument in 2007, they will say the same about Benitez that since he made 2 CL finals with Liverpool, if he gets to Madrid he will win 20

Benitez didn't even last 6months

Or if Mourinho could win CL with Inter and Porto, imagine how many he will win with rich clubs like Man utd and Madrid

Na here we dey

AnfieldFan:


Pep has pedigree else were...If Klopp wins the league this season and Pep leaves after this season without the Champions league... Klopp's stint in England would be regarded as more successful.

Jodera:
Does that mean it wasn't a great team he met there capable of winning everything?
My point is clear, zidane is a great coach, not undermining his feat, cos it's not easy feat.
But he's not better or more tactical than klopp

AnfieldFan:


Mou won a title with Madrid, that's mute...

liveLongNprospa:


So how come nobody was able to win when Zidane left the team. How is it possible that Zidane gave us our 2nd greatest defensive record in la liga when he came back.
That Zidane took over mid season and won the UCL and took us to 1 or 2pts behind league leaders and then do the double next season was nothing short of genius.
You can't say it's because of Ronaldo because the goat has always been the goat for other managers before Zidane.
I will ask you a simple question, how many of our matches did you watch last season?

donstan18:

Klopp wasn’t the first manager to win Bundesliga for Dortmund, I stand to be corrected.

That m’dafuqa kept on messing lots of finals up like he’s cursed. All thanks to Mou who he learnt that act of parking bus to win Spurs in 2019 to win Ucl.

There’s absolutely nothing new he did for Dortmund, the problem with most of you is y’all don’t value people when they achieve something with proper requirements, una dey prefer when people suffer front and black to achieve something, una like stress, same reason people love Wizkid more the Davido. Grass to grace, Na Wetin una dey like, suffering.

Zidane and Klopp no be mate.

Achievements, head2head, trophies and any metric you’ll wanna bring here, he’ll comfortably beat Klopp.

Klop wey never manage Mane finish, Na Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos, Benzema, Modric and other world class players he wan manage.

Can Klopp deal with Madrid pressure??

Una dey fvck up walai!

Jodera:

1... Dortmund won their last trophy in 2001/2002. So it took them 10yrs in the wilderness and a different breed of players before they could win it again with klopp and you want to sweep that under the carpet?? It's like arsenal winning the league next season and then their fans claim it's normal cos Wenger last won it 2004. Lol

2... How many finals did he bottle
1 carabao cup in his debut season
1 Europa in his first full season
1 Cl final in his 2nd season

While you see bottling, I'm seeing progress. Little wonder he won the league and Cl after his 2nd full season.

You'll call his Dortmund Cl loss as another bottling, but you fail to talk how he waya Bayern 6-1 in the finals in their German fa cup alongside winning the league. This una "klopp is failure finalist" won't fly


3... Which coach no dey get issue with star players sometimes? Is it having issues with players OR resolving the issues after that is the koko?
Klopp and Mane have resolved their issues, so why are you still saying they're having issues?

moreover, let's close our eyes to the fact that Zidane and bale no get issues.

Lastly, I'm not talking about grassroot here. Pep is one of the best coach in world football same as klopp. Zidane no be their mate. Make zidane go drag with tuchel

Jodera:
Simple, cos the coaches that took over wasn't world class coaches!

I didn't watch matches last season(since no Ronaldo. I stopped watching Madrid match post Ronaldo, tho I read news on them)
But the matches under Zidane, with Ronaldo, I won't doubt he's good (esp the double where he used mostly 2nd 11 in league), but klopp have shown over time that he's better and more tactical than him. His stints at Dortmund and Liverpool says so

BlueAngel444:
leave them na, no mind them. I like klopp but the level of disrespect Zizou gets eh.

Klopp had a great XI at the UCL final yet he lost to Zizou, all this players Zizou managed were in their 30s

liveLongNprospa:


Madrid finished 2pts shy of which second when Zidane took over?

Both times Zidane took over, our season was horrible.
First with from Benitez then from Solari (I hope that's the correct spelling)

raumdeuter:


In 2013 Klopp finished 25 points behind Bayern with Lewandowski playing for him

In 2014 he finished 19 points behind Bayern with Lewandowski

The only season Klopp played without Lewandowski was when he finished 7th on the table

BlueAngel444:
leave them na, no mind them. I like klopp but the level of disrespect Zizou gets eh.

Klopp had a great XI at the UCL final yet he lost to Zizou, all this players Zizou managed were in their 30s

Devvy4:


Zidane schooled klopp without any of Madrid first choice defenders

liveLongNprospa:

Do you know how long it took klopp to be successful at Liverpool?
The Madrid job is a succeed or die position.
How many managers know how to manage a group of superstars? How many managers do you know can get Ronaldo to sit out games in the league consistently?

raumdeuter:


Zidane won 3 CL back to back

No one has ever won 2 before him and after him

Zidane Is the reason that Madrid is being regarded as a great team

AnfieldFan:


Klopp was without his entire back line due to injuries to the extent Manuel who was retired and club less (Released by Bayern Leverkusen) had to be called out of retirement for Dortmund...Gundogan who was the heart of his midfield picked up an injury that lasted more than a year..There were extenuating circumstances...Hummels and Bender who was also a strong midfield presence picked up injuries too

raumdeuter:


How many CL did he win?

Mou won 1 league, Zidane won 2
You think anyone will be capping for Zidane If he only won 1 league title at Madeid