donstan18:
How can you even day Klopp is better than Zidane?

How? In what aspect? In managing academy boys?

The popular opinion every where is that the top two managers in world football currently are Klopp and Pep....

Zidane doesn't factor in... Sorry...

donstan18:

Ranieri won Epl with Leicester with less expensive players.

Pep won Epl with ManCity after spending millions on players.

Between Pep and Ranieri, who’s better?

Bros Na direct answer I need.

Pep.
Pep has done it more than once, Ranieri has done it only once.

Pep is dominating the league consistently while ranieri did(as that was his only win)

AnfieldFan:


Actually, Man United did..But his wife encouraged to refuse the offer...He told Fergie no..

Well, still not his fault na

AnfieldFan:


The popular opinion every where is that the top two managers in world football currently are Klopp and Pep....

Zidane doesn't factor in... Sorry...

Opinions are not fact.

handelex:
Living without hope or being "hopeneutral" ain't no salvation

You won't find salvation there trust me.

Brother make I try that side first.

AnfieldFan:


This makes no sense...
Klopp took a Mainz team that basically had no budget and brought them mid table in the Bundlesliga..
Took a Dortmund that hadn't won the Bundlesliga in years and gave her two titles while making world class players..Klopp made Dortmund a reputable name in Europe again..
Liverpool won our last trophy in 2012, he gave us the Champions league, premier league after a 30 year wait and other trophies... He's an overachiever and everybody and their grandfather know Klopp's miles above Zidane....

be claiming down, Rodgers almost won the league for Liverpool if not for that infamous Gerard slip

Klopp was lucky Liverpool got their signings right, for instance if Chelsea had signed Van dijk that summer, where would Liverpool be, or if Allison had chosen Chelsea instead of Salah returned to Chelsea

Whatever Klopp achieved in Germany, Tuchel matched it to am extent. I am in no way undermining Klopp as he is better than pep, but you see this nonsense of he is miles above Zidane as what na, a finals failure of what. All this talk is because Poch is a loser in a way

If Poch won the league instead of Leicester or beat Liverpool in that UCL final, he would be far rated than klopp because unlike klopp most of Tottenham stars grew up stars in Tottenham

BlueAngel444:
leave them na, no mind them. I like klopp but the level of disrespect Zizou gets eh.

Klopp had a great XI at the UCL final yet he lost to Zizou, all this players Zizou managed were in their 30s

Which great Xi, Salah our best player was injured via illegal Kung Fu by Ramos but wasn't red carded because it's almighty Madrid, who replaced Salah, Lallana...Peep the gulf in Class...Who gave away 2 cheap goals,Karius who's the biggest basket to ever man the goal...
Everyone knows we were the better side till Salah got injured..
You keep saying aged team for Zidane, how old were they, are they still not performing till now...

Jodera:
Pep.
Pep has done it more than once, Ranieri has done it only once.

Pep is dominating the league consistently while ranieri did(as that was his only win)

What chased Klopp from Bundesliga? Why didn’t he keep dominating??

Zidane ruled Europe and Spain throughout his days managing Madrid, he’s a god in the record settings, humiliated almost all the top coaches before winning Ucl.

Don’t fvxk with him.

He’s way clear.

Klopp isn’t a bad coach, but he’s not in any way qualified to be compared to Zidane.

Devvy4:


Zidane schooled klopp without any of Madrid first choice defenders

Post the two teams starting elevens so we can check...

I have a feeling we will win tomorrow and Ole will stay on the job...A very bad feeling...

Spurs should please do us a big favor...

Devvy4:



When Zidane played Liverpool last season without his first choice back line, what happened?

Did Klopp have his CB's?

AnfieldFan:


Which great Xi, Salah our best player was injured via illegal Kung Fu by Ramos but wasn't red carded because it's almighty Madrid, who replaced Salah, Lallana...Peep the gulf in Class...Who gave away 2 cheap goals,Karius who's the biggest basket to ever man the goal...
Everyone knows we were the better side till Salah got injured..
You keep saying aged team for Zidane, how old were they, are they still not performing till now...

you seem to forget Zidane had to come back and do miracle on their brains, and still they still look like it's Zidane managing them.

But pause, that your bolded agrees with my point, if not for Zidane, Liverpool would have had 2 UCL back to back. There was still Mane, still Firmino and the rest. Karius folded under pressure, good for Madrid. The fact remains Liverpool lost convincely, just the way city lost to Chelsea

BlueAngel444:
been a great manager and coach is making the best use of the squad you have and that's what Zidane did even when other managers failed at it, even without buying over the odds players. No one can say Zidane won because he bought so so and so player, but that can be said of Klopp at Liverpool that without Van dijk or Salah where would Liverpool be, but Zidane the whole story of it's of of Ronald died off with his second stint, the same players other managers failed to utilize, he not only stabilize the team but won the league and almost got to another UCL finals.

Na this Madrid club way Varane been dey defend nonsense, courtios was a basket, Modric was looking like a very old tired man, Benzema couldn't find his bearing. You want to tell me you would have given that Madrid to any other manager and we wouldn't have been mid table.

Barca's problem was poor management, Madrid were just unlucky last season and ATM had better inform players in the league and won it, partly due to stupid barca giving them suarez. People who undermine Zidane's work do so, because he made it seem so easy. Shey it was Ramos that was our highest league scorer the season we won LA liga

How was Madrid a very top team and Zidane was hired first a care taker, sacking that nonsense benitez, before he was fully hired.

You've answered the question for me with the bolded. Benitez was nonsense and not a top class manager, Zidan is.
Moreover, before Zidane arrival, check the squad of Madrid. Their spine(core) was top players. How did I know?
Their league points and position the previous 2 seasons and their Cl semifinals/final stop. That's to tell you it's a great team who just need great manager.

Is he a great manager? To me Yes!
Is he better than klopp?? To me No!

That you're not better than klopp doesn't mean I'm undermining his greatness

donstan18:

Opinions are not fact.

If top football pundits and coaches have an opinion, I will go for their opinion as compared to yours...
Quick question, who's better
Zidane or Pep

Jodera:
You've answered the question for me with the bolded. Benitez was nonsense and not a top class manager, Zidan is.
Moreover, before Zidane arrival, check the squad of Madrid. Their spine(core) was top players. How did I know?
Their league points and position the previous 2 seasons and their Cl semifinals/final stop. That's to tell you it's a great team who just need great manager.

Is he a great manager? To me Yes!
Is he better than klopp?? To me No!

That you're not better than klopp doesn't mean I'm undermining his greatness

well true, but telling this things is never easy, that's why it's good to respect every manager(who isn't named ole, make person no stone me for here )

Tuchel failed to win UCL at PSG but won with Chelsea, sometimes have better players isn't always that favorable, look at Moyes and westham

raumdeuter:


From 2013 till now Bayern has won 7
Before 2013. Bayern lost the league to Dorrmund Stuttgart and Wolfsburg

How is Bayern that's losing the league to Stuttgart and Wolfsburg top of their game?

We should also be praising the coaches of Stuttgart and Wolfsburg for winning the league from top of their game Bayern

I told you 2 out of 3 years, Bayern won the league. How is a team that won the league 2 out of 3 years not at the top of their game?

Is just like if mochenglabach wins the league this season and next, we would be wrong to say they won it wen Bayern was top of their game

AnfieldFan:


If top football pundits and coaches have an opinion, I will go for their opinion as compared to yours...
Quick question, who's better
Zidane or Pep

Zidane

BlueAngel444:
be claiming down, Rodgers almost won the league for Liverpool if not for that infamous Gerard slip

Klopp was lucky Liverpool got their signings right, for instance if Chelsea had signed Van dijk that summer, where would Liverpool be, or if Allison had chosen Chelsea instead of Salah returned to Chelsea

Whatever Klopp achieved in Germany, Tuchel matched it to am extent. I am in no way undermining Klopp as he is better than pep, but you see this nonsense of he is miles above Zidane as what na, a finals failure of what. All this talk is because Poch is a loser in a way

If Poch won the league instead of Leicester or beat Liverpool in that UCL final, he would be far rated than klopp because unlike klopp most of Tottenham stars grew up stars in Tottenham

Let's start, Rodgers almost did but he didn't.
Klopp has finished just one point behind Peo, but that doesn't matter cuz he didn't win the title...
Klopp wasn't lucky, we bought two players with Countiho's transfer fee.. Virgil and Allison.. Virgil waited it out when Southampton reported Liverpool for tapping up...He believed in Klopp's vision and both Virgil and Allison have become better players for their decision.
Now, Poch didn't win the champions league so this is irrelevant...Klopp did...
But Liverpool aside, Klopp promoted Mainz ..Won league titles with Dortmund as well as the Cup..

raumdeuter:


Zidane won 3 CL back to back

No one has ever won 2 before him and after him

Zidane Is the reason that Madrid is being regarded as a great team

Big big Lie!!!
Madrid have always been regarded as a great team esp in Europe wen Mou was the coach!!
Team reaching semifinals from 2011 consecutively and top 2 in the league isn't a great team ??
Haba boss!!

Jodera:



Lastly, I'm not talking about grassroot here. Pep is one of the best coach in world football same as klopp. Zidane no be their mate. Make zidane go drag with tuchel

see eh, in 50years whatever Klopp and Pep have done can be outdone but you see that 3UCLs Zidane won back to back, I bet you no manager would be able to pull it off

donstan18:

What chased Klopp from Bundesliga? Why didn’t he keep dominating??

Zidane ruled Europe and Spain throughout his days managing Madrid, he’s a god in the record settings, humiliated almost all the top coaches before winning Ucl.

Don’t fvxk with him.

He’s way clear.

Klopp isn’t a bad coach, but he’s not in any way qualified to be compared to Zidane.

He left when the ovation was loudest and because Bayern poached his players..
Why didn't Pep stay with Bayern
Why isn't Zidane still dominating Europe with Madrid..
Since Ronaldo left, has he won the Champions league..
Klopp beat a Barca that had Messi without key players.

Devvy4:



And what’s the special thing(s) pep has done in football?

He has spent more than 1 billion in city and he hasn’t even have a Ucl trophy, Zidane is clear of that fraudster

Lol
He did it at barca and Bayern!

raumdeuter:


How has Klopp shown that he is more tactical when Zidane is beating him anytime they meet

Tuchel has beaten Pep 3 times!
I still don't believe he's tactical or better than pep

Jodera:
Big big Lie!!!
Madrid have always been regarded as a great team esp in Europe wen Mou was the coach!!
Team reaching semifinals from 2011 consecutively and top 2 in the league isn't a great team ??
Haba boss!!

look, they say the pressure in a game makes a team and manager crack, evidence united's last game.

That Madrid final, Zizou's 2nd UCL. Everyone was like no one had won UCL back to back, the pressure was huge, no one would have faulted zidane if he lost it. After all, the great fergie was good at dashing pep UCLs but Zidane got the boys to deliver


If playing a second consecutive UCL wasn't high pressure enough with the whole of Madrid fans, ruthless fan base, then what about playing a third UCL final.


Managers complain about players losing motivation, what did Zidane complain about, he didn't even ask for a new signing.
This is the person u na wan compare with Pep, who had Bayern and City best XIs in the world when he got them but failed to make UCL finals in also a decade

BlueAngel444:
you seem to forget Zidane had to come back and do miracle on their brains, and still they still look like it's Zidane managing them.

But pause, that your bolded agrees with my point, if not for Zidane, Liverpool would have had 2 UCL back to back. There was still Mane, still Firmino and the rest. Karius folded under pressure, good for Madrid. The fact remains Liverpool lost convincely, just the way city lost to Chelsea

If not for Karius, Karius didn't fold because it was Madrid, the dude had been folding even before Madrid..
To buttress my point, no team has accepted Karius till now..En still the collect salary for Liverpool...
If we dash una Karius plus 100 mill and tell you to use him for just 10 prem league games this season, una go gree

Our bench for that finals was Clyne, Mignolet,Lallana, Solanke, Moreno ,Klavan...What did you expect compared to a Madrid team in their prime...

Jodera:
Tuchel has beaten Pep 3 times!
I still don't believe he's tactical or better than pep

You don't believe Tuchel is better than a guy who built his team with billions and only made one UCL. If city had played Bayern and not PSG in 2020 UCL, who knows how many goals city would have conceded to lose that game.
Pep has a system that suits him and a purse to back him up, but when it comes down to it, having equal teams and making use of tactics to get the edge Tuchel has proven it, even with a lesser rated squad

AnfieldFan:


If not for Karius, Karius didn't fold because it was Madrid, the dude had been folding even before Madrid..
To buttress my point, no team has accepted Karius till now..En still the collect salary for Liverpool...
If we dash una Karius plus 100 mill and tell you to use him for just 10 prem league games this season, una go gree

Our bench for that finals was Clyne, Mignolet,Lallana, Solanke, Moreno ,Klavan...What did you expect compared to a Madrid team in their prime...

oya who and who was in Madrid bench na, u think u are wise

patrickmuf:
I have a feeling we will win tomorrow and Ole will stay on the job...A very bad feeling...

Spurs should please do us a big favor...

na ole way, expect the usually seasonal bounce back

BlueAngel444:
oya who and who was in Madrid bench na, u think u are wise

It's simply the truth..

Bale, Ascensio, Kovacic and Nacho were all on that bench

Answer.. Would you have Karius man your goal for 10 games if he were offered to Chelsea for free knowing fully well that Chelsea are title contenders this season..

raumdeuter:


Why did Klopp decline Ferguson then? Because he knew they don't have 3yrs to wait for trophies like Liverpool and Dortmund.

And that one wants to manage Madrid?

lol if it's about waiting three years then Sarri is better than Klopp na

Because Sarri is like Pep without cheque book or time to gell

AnfieldFan:


It's simply the truth..

Bale, Ascensio, Kovacic and Nacho were all on that bench

Answer.. Would you have Karius man your goal for 10 games if he were offered to Chelsea for free knowing fully well that Chelsea are title contenders this season..

lol Bale and Zidane, e better make academy player dey bench. So wait this are the world class players on the bench abi, Asensio, Kovacic and Nacho, game changers abi

AnfieldFan:


If top football pundits and coaches have an opinion, I will go for their opinion as compared to yours...
Quick question, who's better
Zidane or Pep

Pundits like?

Why not tell me the pundit who rated Zidane’s achievements lesser than Klopp’s.

You no answer my question, but want me to answer yours, you never serious.