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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Clefayomide: 11:32pm On Oct 29, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20: Not to sound misogynistic but I've seen this in many tech job ads and it's quite disgusting and unfair to the male gender. I mean!! Put out a fair interview process and give the best candidate the job, which one is more preference to women arrggh |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Clefayomide: 11:49pm On Oct 29, 2021 |
airsaylongcome: First of all, women shouldn't be on this list. That list comprises of individuals with differences and circumstances. What differences/circumstances are you faced with for being just a woman ? And how about "As an equal opportunity employer we encourage every individuals from different background, race, individuals with disabilities, minors, to consider our employment opportunities" ? Only dog, cat, and women are loved unconditional. It's really tough being a man lmao |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:03am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Clefayomide:She code camp shared laptop to all their members. Boy are on nairaland crying for laptop. Coding on phone. Coding on 30k laptop suffering and fighting to escape poverty no help from anywhere. Once you realise as a man that you are alone in this world that is when you have waken up. 3 Likes |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by airsaylongcome: 2:12am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Clefayomide: Myriad! How many women are in today's boardrooms? How many men suffer glass ceiling syndrome compared to the number of women that do? I hope you don't plan to make this comment working for a foreign company that what circumstances do women face for being a woman. Not only will you be labelled a misogynist, you will be fired. Affirmative Action does not mean hiring incompetent whether male or female. |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by airsaylongcome: 2:14am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Clefayomide: What would white people say when they see job roles that say preference will be given to minorities and people of colour? Why not put out a fair interview process and give the best candidate the job, which one is preference to minorities and people of colour? |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by genaro2000(m): 4:23am On Oct 30, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20:Hmmm Word |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by genaro2000(m): 4:26am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Clefayomide:This is what we are talking about |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tosinhtml: 9:25am On Oct 30, 2021 |
BRATISLAVA: Hiring and interviews are watered down for women in US tech market and some newly Nigerian tech markets, especially women of color, Muslim women or women who are in the marginalized groups like LGBTQ etc. This watered down approach is something i support fully and i believe is for the good of everyone.
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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by BRATISLAVA: 9:42am On Oct 30, 2021 |
tosinhtml: If you say it's watered down, then it is. You are right. Women are unqualified and should not ordinarily be given inclusion in tech, likewise other minorities. Every woman in tech is there just because she's a woman. Standards were thrown in the bin for her sake. Women are employed for supposed emotional benefits, because all women make stuffy men groups more lovely. Otherwise they are incapable of anything in tech. Says only contributions from one end. Well, you've tried to look down from the condescending men's podium to at least answer one of the questions. There's less testosterone talking and more sense to it. Go ahead and tell us how everything in tech is watered down for women. We'd all appreciate that unique recruitment insight. And if it's inclusion we are still talking about, let it not be called watering down but its true name. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by airsaylongcome: 10:15am On Oct 30, 2021 |
tosinhtml: When you say watered down can you explain? A man would be expected to know the nitty-gritty of DSA but a woman would be fine just knowing how to write system.out.println(Hello World)? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:18am On Oct 30, 2021 |
airsaylongcome:A woman will be given two sum questions like the first question on leetcode that practically everyone in the coding world has solved and a man will be given some really difficult stupid shit like the airport graph question which qualifies as a leetcode super hard. It doesn't even matter if you are a junior developer. Solve away. Besides even if you look on leetcode it's all guys. At programming competitions with DSA it's all guys. At the international Olympiads for informatics a woman has never been amongst the top 50 ever since it was established. The standards are greatly reduce when hiring women If it was the same it would be impossible to get women in and even when women are in guys do more work than the women. I am not being misogynistic I am just saying it as it is. 3 Likes |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by airsaylongcome: 10:28am On Oct 30, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20: You know what, you are right |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 10:38am On Oct 30, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20:It's not really about a man being alone in this world though. I think the idea is to encourage more of the women folks. The thing is women have been discriminated for centuries and seen as the property of men and as people who can't be as smart as men. So giving free laptops to women is to encourage more women into tech so as to dispel those barbaric notions in society. It is possible that we are missing out a lot from not having so many women in IT. The last time I checked, men have had it easier in so many other ways and have not been so underrated in history due to their gender like the women have. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:41am On Oct 30, 2021 |
GeneralDae:I find it hogwash I am all for encouraging women but there are a lot of poor men folk in Nigeria honestly with regards to Nigeria even outside tech women have it so much easier than men. Even when it comes to getting a job how many women are unemployed compared to men. Having a lot more unemployed males is more dangerous for the society than women. See the bandits, boko haram, herdsmen, cultists and armed robbers we are are breeding in Nigeria. The number will increase exponentially in the coming years as men get fewer opportunities. 3 Likes |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Nobody: 10:41am On Oct 30, 2021 |
airsaylongcome:Oga shut up and learn. No dey argue nonsense here. |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:43am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Kellzzyy:Oh come on you don't have to be insulting. |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by airsaylongcome: 10:46am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Kellzzyy: Okay. Definitely looking forward to learn about IT from a medicine seller |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Clefayomide: 11:10am On Oct 30, 2021 |
GeneralDae: I get your point and it's actually a beautiful thing to encourage more women into tech. But imho I think that trend has basically neglected the men in tech (at least the ones just starting out), we're lost in trying to get more women into tech and refused to see the other side of the coin which is the male gender. I've seen guys give up on tech to pursue another career due to the struggle and no little encouragement whatsoever. Have you ever heard about a male bootcamp or gadget giveaway strictly for males ? NO! There are also jobs where males are under represented, HR for instance, and not a single place have I seen "get more men into hr" |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by solidmyk(m): 11:15am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Kellzzyy: ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 11:20am On Oct 30, 2021 |
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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 11:20am On Oct 30, 2021 |
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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 11:24am On Oct 30, 2021 |
Clefayomide:It is a fact that in tech, women are less interested than men generally and this could be due to cultural factors that make it seem like a man's job primarily. The idea then is to encourage more women and make them develop interest first and then we see from there. However, I get your point that it should be done in a more tactical manner and not at the expense of men who also crave for such opportunities. For instance, I support opening more female IT training centres than we have to see if we can spark their interest, but when it comes to the job proper ( even for entry level jobs), I'd prefer no favouritism. Let the best from amongst the Male and female get the job, but let us do more to introduce tech to more females at the grassroot level because the gap between males and females in IT in terms of numbers is huge the world over and especially in Africa where cultural bias also plays a significant role. 2 Likes |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tosinhtml: 5:06pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
BRATISLAVA: Please go back to my post and read again, i said the women most times get to the final round, and the decision on who to hire at the end may favour them because we already have so many males on the team and we need more females to join a team because they bring a different experience. Diversity is needed. Your mind is just full of Men vs Women wars. This isn't romance section, nobody is fighting for male dominance here. You can keep complaining about watering down, my work is to explain to you. Yours is to understand. If you understand and keep ranting, no problem. If you don't gerit, just forget abourit. 1 Like |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tosinhtml: 9:57pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
airsaylongcome: NO. There is always a required skill level that interviewers expect from you, usually when you pass that required level it means you are now competing with other candidates who are intelligent and have similar skills to you. So if you are rejected at this stage, it would be because other candidates are better fit into the role than you are. Not for competency. Now a team hiring for diversity will prefer to hire 2 ladies and 3 guys, it means the women would have less people to contend with, because few women apply for Development positions as compared to men. It's like 80/20. It doesn't mean those women are dumb, they have already proved their competency by passing the required skill level initially. PS: it's also a reason why some people do well in interviews and when the company doesn't give them an offer, they get confused. The reason is because there are more people to contend with for that position. |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by StupidDrunkard: 10:44pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
tosinhtml:Bros please don’t waste your time replying her, most of her posts are anti-male gender,this is someone that says all males are attracted to kids sexually. Such a person can never see logical reasons with you. She seems to have an emotional problem with men and she’s bringing it to this beautiful and educative thread. Please ignore her |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Nobody: 3:44am On Oct 31, 2021 |
airsaylongcome:Very degrading of you to think that pharmacists are medicine sellers. |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Nobody: 3:55am On Oct 31, 2021 |
GeneralDae: This doesn't really make any sense. What steps have you taken to introduce more men into the nursing profession, where the gender disparity is high? What steps have you taken to introduce men into teaching profession, HR, and many others where the females far outnumber the males? The idea of women only boot camps and other such things is nothing but plain discrimination. |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by airsaylongcome: 4:27am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Kellzzyy: U come here to run your stinky mouth on an IT thread hurling insults at me and don't expect to get thrown in the mud? Like seriously? You ask me to, in your words "shut up and learn. No dey argue nonsense here." A medicine seller coming on an IT thread to tell an IT practitioner to "shut up and learn"? Take several seats kiddo. And give me 2 cups of agbo jedi while you are at it. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 6:23am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Kellzzyy:Except that tech is not Nursing and Teaching. It is one of the most deep and diverse areas with so many segments ( Data analysis, Web development, A.I, Networking, Salesforce development, Database Administration, etc). Tech (especially Data Science the new oil) can also be combined or adopted to almost any other profession. Hence comparing tech to stand alone, specific professions like Nursing and Teaching is simplistic. Tech is both art and science and it is the core of the Digital 21st century meant to be combined with many other professions taking them to other dimensions in this century. 2 Likes |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Clefayomide: 1:33pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
GeneralDae: Do you know about the different segments of nursing and teaching ? Those terms are just a general name to refer to anyone practicing any aspect of it. You think teaching is just about carrying chalk up and down ?. Both profession are very broad, tech encompasses every profession that's what makes it stand out. Lol calling nursing and teaching standalone profession is just like saying finance is also a standalone profession meanwhile there are tons of segments in finance. And please teaching is also art and science! 2 Likes |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Nobody: 3:18pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
airsaylongcome:Lol.. No wam |
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by BRATISLAVA: 7:25am On Nov 01, 2021 |
StupidDrunkard: More diversions. And from the o.losho beer parlor to boot. Be so kind and post where I said all males are attracted to kids sexually, and I will repost some of the things the strongest voices that claim women are preferentially treated in tech dropped. Most of the people saying it are anti-female/misogynists going by their posts. This thread has become a whining pot for men. Guys are suffering in tech! Boohoo. Why wouldn't they be looking for laptops when the ratio of men in tech is way more than that of women? If you had the same number of women, they would also be looking for laptops. They are, but they are much fewer. Or wait, women get free laptops to get trained on all the time. Some of you have emotional problems with women. Imagine a boys club in which women hired in tech only know the barest minimum, because it's too hard to believe they could actually know more than that. Are we talking about the logic that only men are custodians of still? The logic that means only what men say about women in tech is real? The only problem you have with inclusion is simply that the included people are women. If it were gays you wouldn't mind if they were recruited from Mars in place of you. But you're right. Do the ignoring thing. Truth hurts. After all, in your world, women are second class humans. Life is so unfair to men. |
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