Asiwaju Bola Tinubu,popularly known as Jagaban,is arguably nigerian most popular politician.The former governor of Lagos state and the national leader of APC just like Obafemi Awolowo during is life time takes a centre stage in Nigerian politics.Its either one is for him or against him.While majority of people,especially the politicians like him are against him for purely political reason,some do because they believe he is greedy.However,no politician can be as selfless to power within Nigerian politics as Tinubu.



One of the principal reasons why some individuals joined people that are against him is because these people have over flogged this greed narratives in their ears and forced it than their throats.They have never tried to take time to subject the narratives to proper scrutiny to ascertain its credibility. The argument of his detractors is that he craves for too much relevance in every political circumstances.While this might be true,its the goal of every politician to maintain relevance.If to crave for relevance or maintain it is the ultimate goal of all politicians,why must Tinubu be singled out and crucified for it?.The answer to this question all boils than to pure hate out of envy and jealousy.

If the hate and jealousy that has beclouded the view of is distractors is removed, it will be very clear to them that his selfless attributes manifests clearly in his crave for relevance.This is a man that has left power since 2007.He has never aimed higher than be a governor like his contemporaries since then and probably not untill now.Rather,he has groomed people that have achieved more political power than he had ever achieved in life.Notable examples are the speaker of HOR,the vice president and several ministers.What moral justification do people that admire people like Bukola Saraki and Ike Ekweremadu that have been in corridor of power since 1999 have to describe Bola Ahmed Tinubu has been greedy?.Ike ekweremadu has spent 18years and still counting in the senate.Out of the 18years,he spent 12 years as the deputy senate president.Bukola Saraki started his political career as director in budget unit 1999 and later special Adviser to the president on budget.He moved from there to contest for the governorship seat of kwara states which he won in 2003.After leaving the governorship seat,he replaced his sister as the senator representing his senatorial district where he later became the senate president as against the will of the party that brought him to power then

To sum it up,Tinubu might has his own short comings as human being.However,he towers above his political peers in term of selflessness as seen in leaders that he has built and his choice of been a private citizen since he has left power in 2007.Attributing greed to him is over emphasised and over flogged by his political detractors and their supporters out of hate,heavy and jealousy to draw more enmity towards him and to score cheap political points

OmoEpe:
Asiwaju Bola Tinubu,popularly known as Jagaban,is arguably nigerian most popular politician.The former governor of Lagos state and the national leader of APC just like Obafemi Awolowo during is life time takes a centre stage in Nigerian One of the principal reasons why some individuals joined people that are against him is because these people have over flogged this greed narratives in their ears and forced it than their throats.They have never tried to take time to subject the narratives to proper scrutiny to ascertain its credibility. The argument of his detractors is that he craves for too much relevance in every political circumstances.While this might be true,its the goal of every politician to maintain relevance.If to crave for relevance or maintain it is the ultimate goal of all politicians,why must Tinubu be singled out and crucified for it?.The answer to this question all boils than to pure hate out of envy and jealousy.

If the hate and jealousy that has beclouded the view of is distractors is removed, it will be very clear to them that his selfless attributes manifests clearly in his crave for relevance.This is a man that has left power since 2007.He has never aimed higher than be a governor like his contemporaries since then and probably not untill now.Rather,he has groomed people that have achieved more political power than he had ever achieved in life.Notable examples are the speaker of HOR,the vice president and several ministers.What moral justification do people that admire people like Bukola Saraki and Ike Ekweremadu that have been in corridor of power since 1999 have to describe Bola Ahmed Tinubu has been greedy?.Ike ekweremadu has spent 18years and still counting in the senate.Out of the 18years,he spent 12 years as the deputy senate president.Bukola Saraki started his political career as director in budget unit 1999 and later special Adviser to the president on budget.He moved from there to contest for the governorship seat of kwara states which he won in 2003.After leaving the governorship seat,he replaced his sister as the senator representing his senatorial district where he later became the senate president as against the will of the party that brought him to power then

To sum it up,Tinubu might has his own short comings as human being.However,he towers above his political peers in term of selflessness as seen in leaders that he has built and his choice of been a private citizen since he has left power in 2007.Attributing greed to him is over emphasised and over flogged by his political detractors and their supporters out of hate,heavy and jealousy to draw more enmity towards him and to score cheap political points

It's an insult to mention Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late sage, where Tinubu's matter is being discussed. Please remove it now

OmoEpe:
Asiwaju Bola Tinubu,popularly known as Jagaban,is arguably nigerian most popular politician.The former governor of Lagos state and the national leader of APC just like Obafemi Awolowo during is life time takes a centre stage in Nigerian One of the principal reasons why some individuals joined people that are against him is because these people have over flogged this greed narratives in their ears and forced it than their throats.They have never tried to take time to subject the narratives to proper scrutiny to ascertain its credibility. The argument of his detractors is that he craves for too much relevance in every political circumstances.While this might be true,its the goal of every politician to maintain relevance.If to crave for relevance or maintain it is the ultimate goal of all politicians,why must Tinubu be singled out and crucified for it?.The answer to this question all boils than to pure hate out of envy and jealousy.

If the hate and jealousy that has beclouded the view of is distractors is removed, it will be very clear to them that his selfless attributes manifests clearly in his crave for relevance.This is a man that has left power since 2007.He has never aimed higher than be a governor like his contemporaries since then and probably not untill now.Rather,he has groomed people that have achieved more political power than he had ever achieved in life.Notable examples are the speaker of HOR,the vice president and several ministers.What moral justification do people that admire people like Bukola Saraki and Ike Ekweremadu that have been in corridor of power since 1999 have to describe Bola Ahmed Tinubu has been greedy?.Ike ekweremadu has spent 18years and still counting in the senate.Out of the 18years,he spent 12 years as the deputy senate president.Bukola Saraki started his political career as director in budget unit 1999 and later special Adviser to the president on budget.He moved from there to contest for the governorship seat of kwara states which he won in 2003.After leaving the governorship seat,he replaced his sister as the senator representing his senatorial district where he later became the senate president as against the will of the party that brought him to power then

To sum it up,Tinubu might has his own short comings as human being.However,he towers above his political peers in term of selflessness as seen in leaders that he has built and his choice of been a private citizen since he has left power in 2007.Attributing greed to him is over emphasised and over flogged by his political detractors and their supporters out of hate,heavy and jealousy to draw more enmity towards him and to score cheap political points

Baba mi Awolowo ati Tinubu? , arifin. Tinubu may be a business conscious politician with penchant for public funds. Tinubu is a crooked Robin hood.

Eriokanmi:
It's an insult to mention Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late sage, where Tinubu's matter is being discussed. Please remove it now

1)The similarities are undeniable
Awolowo raised men that gave him a cult like followership same as Tinubu
2) Awolowo had a vision first for SW which he implemented with singleminded devotion just like Tinubu
3) Awolowo had his sight fixed on the centre just like Tinubu
4) Awolowo was hated and loved fanatically by admirers and does just like Tinubu



Need I add more?

You can't be greedy and have followers in Yoruba land

Leadership is all about human capital development

Ytt

Toh

Eriokanmi:
It's an insult to mention Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late sage, where Tinubu's matter is being discussed. Please remove it now

I don’t see a difference. Tinubu is to this generation what Awolowo was to his generation. Without Tinubu tell me how Yoruba are supposed to be in control of Nigeria affairs. How are we going to contribute to the center? Read what the OP is saying and understand. OBJ as a formal military and civilian president does not have Tinubu followers or protégés. Until a court of law convict Tinubu of any crime. He’s more saint than all Nigeria politicians with efcc case. It’s been I think 14 years since Tinubu left office. Why hasn’t a case been proven against him? Most of his pairs have corruption cases hanging on their heads but Tinubu.
Just respect the man. Everything we know concerning Tinubu and corruption are hearsay. PDP could have used this corruption case to wrestle Lagos from him but they couldn’t because there isn’t any.

OmoEpe:


1)The similarities are undeniable
Awolowo raised men that gave him a cult like followership same as Tinubu
2) Awolowo had a vision first for SW which he implemented with singleminded devotion just like Tinubu
3) Awolowo had his sight fixed on the centre just like Tinubu
4) Awolowo was hated and loved fanatically by admirers and does just like Tinubu



Need I add more?

Aolowo raised men while Tinubu raised thugs and thieves

Awolowo had vision for the SW and the entire nation while Tinubu only fought for his pocket

Awolowo had his sight fixed at the centre but tinubu was eyeing the centre because of greed

Awolowo was loved by the majority and hated by only greedy few...(those who could wear Tinubu's shoes in their time).

How many private jets had Awolowo even though he could have diverted the proceeds from cocoa used in building the yoruba economy and OAU?

Awolowo could have taken over lagos if he wanted to, but his vision was prosperity for all

Awolowo was a premier of Western region, intelligent and a man of integrity while Tinubu was not

Need I say more? It amazes me when people see blue but want to tell us it's white. O ga oo

alanto:

I don’t see a difference. Tinubu is to this generation what Awolowo was to his generation. Without Tinubu tell me how Yoruba are supposed to be in control of Nigeria affairs. How are we going to contribute to the center? Read what the OP is saying and understand. OBJ as a formal military and civilian president does not have Tinubu followers or protégés. Until a court of law convict Tinubu of any crime. He’s more saint than all Nigeria politicians with efcc case.

I read the OP's post before commented . I didn't just jump to post comments because I wanted to book space. I was well informed when awolowo was alive and I attended a couple of his political ralies. Only those who belong to this generation without learning of the past would compare Awolowo with Tinubu....what an insult. OBJ you mentioned is in same shoes with Tinubu.

He had said its his opinion, so no offence.

joyandfaith:


Baba mi Awolowo ati Tinubu? , arifin. Tinubu may be a business conscious politician with penchant for public funds. Tinubu is a crooked Robin hood.

Joo bami sofun oo

If a renowned thief and drug pusher is not greedy in your tribe I wonder what he is

alanto:

I don’t see a difference. Tinubu is to this generation what Awolowo was to his generation. Without Tinubu tell me how Yoruba are supposed to be in control of Nigeria affairs. How are we going to contribute to the center? Read what the OP is saying and understand. OBJ as a formal military and civilian president does not have Tinubu followers or protégés. Until a court of law convict Tinubu of any crime. He’s more saint than all Nigeria politicians with efcc case.

That guy you quoted has a very deep and blind hatred for Tinubu and is a PDP sympathizer so he can't see reason in what you just said.

The truth is that, no one can be as successful as Tinubu is politically without having an almost equal number of enemies as he would have admirers, even amongst his own people. That's the fate of all great statesmen all through history and politics. Awolowo had as many enemies as he did admirers, even amongst yorubas (Abiola was one of such men, Adegoke Adelabu the strong man of Ibadan was another, just to mention a few). And he was no stranger to betrayal by protégé and associates. But all that didn't diminish his status. Not to mention the hatred he elicited from the Northerners and the igbos. Therefore, in that sense, Tinubu is in good company. Lol.

There are many that will never like him (Tinubu) nor acknowledge his political renown just out of personal or political dislike (which they're entitled to in a democracy), not because he hasn't earned his stripes. To such people, nothing he would ever do would be good enough in their eyes, except maybe he just lays down and dies before they'll be satisfied. But the guy's star keeps rising, even after they've written him off, he keeps shining, in spite of their hatred.

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Aolowo raised men while Tinubu raised thugs and thieves

Osibanjo, Gbaja, Fashola, Sanwo Olu and the likes are not thugs. You guys talk about NURT like it’s Tinubu’s invention or like it’s peculiar to Lagos. No NURTW and Road Union are both by the federal government, Tinubu having a say in Lagos NURTW is because he used his influence to put people at the affairs of NURTW in his state that’s because he’s a leader.

Awolowo had vision for the SW and the entire nation while Tinubu only fought for his pocket

How? Nigeria of Awolowo is different from Nigeria of today. In today’s Nigeria the center takes it all. If Tinubu can not control the center he can’t do anything for SW.

Awolowo had his sight fixed at the centre but tinubu was eyeing the centre because of greed

When you talk about Tinubu greed and all that you only talk about Alpha beta; that is an auditing firm, You can take the job from alpha better but the next company you will give it to will still take their share.

Awolowo was loved by the majority and hated by only greedy few...(those who could wear Tinubu's shoes in their time).

Tinubu is loved by everyone including the greedy too, the only people that hate Tinubu are PDP members but it’s normal you don’t expect Democrats to like Trump.

How many private jets had Awolowo even though he could have diverted the proceeds from cocoa used in building the yoruba economy and OAU?

Tinubu did a lot for Lagos. Lagos is the only government Tinubu ever had to manage and he did wonderfully well. All the corruption should going on here and there are distractions.
Tinubu is a rich man. He has more money than Awolowo. MKO was very rich and he didn’t corner anything from Lagos or anywhere.

Awolowo could have taken over lagos if he wanted to, but his vision was prosperity for all.

Lol. Politics. Awolowo was bigger than Lagos. He was the premier of SW Nigeria that’s Lagos included. The other Atiku was crying and apologizing for not taking over Lagos for PDP in 2003 or so. Over the years many people have tried to take over Lagos. If they are not greedy why are they trying to take over Lagos. Even small Ambode tried to hijack Lagos but why if he’s not greedy? Tinubu is extremely influential in Lagos is more fair to say than to say he took over Lagos. Lagos is his political base. What do you want him to do? Give it up? All the people that hate Tinubu for Lagos are the people that can’t win there poling unit.

Awolowo was a premier of Western region, intelligent and a man of integrity while Tinubu was not

How’s Tinubu not of integrity a factual point and bit hearsay

AkalaJ:


That guy you quoted has a very deep and blind hatred for Tinubu and is a PDP sympathizer so he can't see reason in what you just said.

The truth is that, no one can be as successful as Tinubu is politically without having an almost equal number of enemies as he would have admirers, even amongst his own people. That's the fate of all great statesmen all through history and politics. Awolowo had as many enemies as he did admirers, even amongst yorubas (Abiola was one of such men, Adegoke Adelabu the strong man of Ibadan was another, just to mention a few). And he was no stranger to betrayal by protégé and associates. But all that didn't diminish his status. Not to mention the hatred he elicited from the Northerners and the igbos. Therefore, in that sense, Tinubu is in good company. Lol.

There are many that will never like him (Tinubu) nor acknowledge his political renown just out of personal or political dislike (which they're entitled to in a democracy), not because he hasn't earned his stripes. To such people, nothing he would ever do would be good enough in their eyes, except maybe he just lays down and dies before they'll be satisfied. But the guy's star keeps rising, even after they've written him off, he keeps shining, in spite of their hatred.

I totally agree. You have to be PDP to dislike Tinubu but it’s understandable. As far as am concern Tinubu is Awolowo of our time and that’s luck because even until now the other regions have not been able to raise another Zik or Tafawa so I can understand their hate too.

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You actually saved me the stress of replying him.
Till today there exists bad blood between the Shonibare and the Awolowo families over the ownership of Shonibare Estate in Maryland.
The monetary value of that estate is much more than whatever they can accuse Tinubu of conering using the influence of his office.
Alpha Beta is an accounting firm that is designed IGR of states. It is operating/ operated in 24 states of the country, countless LG and 17 African nations. It collects commission from all these bodies, if Lagos also pays commensurate commission, how as it being a crime?
Was he Governors or president of those countries?

Eriokanmi:


Aolowo raised men while Tinubu raised thugs and thieves

Awolowo had vision for the SW and the entire nation while Tinubu only fought for his pocket

Awolowo had his sight fixed at the centre but tinubu was eyeing the centre because of greed

Awolowo was loved by the majority and hated by only greedy few...(those who could wear Tinubu's shoes in their time).

How many private jets had Awolowo even though he could have diverted the proceeds from cocoa used in building the yoruba economy and OAU?

Awolowo could have taken over lagos if he wanted to, but his vision was prosperity for all

Awolowo was a premier of Western region, intelligent and a man of integrity while Tinubu was not

Need I say more? It amazes me when people see blue but want to tell us it's white. O ga oo

I was actually typing a reply to your points one by one before I got distracted by work but fortunately for my brothers AkalaJ and alanto did an extremely good job of that.

The only point they forgot to adress was your corruption perceptions which are largely unsubstantiated

Till date between the Shonibare and the Awolowo exists bad blood over ownership of Shonibare Estate in Maryland.
The monetary value of the Estate dwarfs whatsoever you accuse Tinubu of today. You and me know that Awolowo legal practice didn't acquire that property

They have exhausted the Alpha Beta issue but all I need to add is that Alpha Beta operates/ operated in 24 states of the federation and currently operating in 17 African countries, from which they collect same commission.
Is Tinubu the former LGA,Gov and Presidents of these Govt that they pay commission to Alpha Beta? What is peculiar in Lagos paying same commission others pay?

Alpha Beta is rendering quality Service that people are willing to pay for so remove it from your mind. I can understand children of hate spewing ignorance when they say that but it isn't expected from you an intellectual

He tackled the thugs aspect. So I need not a dress that

I have tremendous respect for Great Obafemi Awolowo, in fact my father was one of the HOR members from Lagos under UPN and I have had cause to be dashed money severally by him by reason of following my father to meetings with him. That doesn't take away the fact that Bola Ahmed Tinubu is this generation's Awolowo and you can't deny or change that by any factual narratives


Just like Awolowo had enemies(a lot) among the elites like the Ogunsanyas,Fan I Kayodes,Akintolas,Bensons etc so does Tinubu

As it was in the beginning so it is now. History has an uncanny way of ever repeating itself


SELAH

OmoEpe:


You actually saved me the stress of replying him.
Till today there exists bad blood between the Shonibare and the Awolowo families over the ownership of Shonibare Estate in Maryland.
The monetary value of that estate is much more than whatever they can accuse Tinubu of conering using the influence of his office.
Alpha Beta is an accounting firm that is designed IGR of states. It is operating/ operated in 24 states of the country, countless LG and 17 African nations. It collects commission from all these bodies, if Lagos also pays commensurate commission, how as it being a crime?
Was he Governors or president of those countries?

You closed the thread.
I’ve loved Tinubu a long time and I have never met him or benefited anything directly from him (besides that I live in Lagos) neither do I know someone who has but truth be told that man is a leader. I de always trip for am.
He has all the right people in place.

OmoEpe:


1)The similarities are undeniable
Awolowo raised men that gave him a cult like followership same as Tinubu
2) Awolowo had a vision first for SW which he implemented with singleminded devotion just like Tinubu
3) Awolowo had his sight fixed on the centre just like Tinubu
4) Awolowo was hated and loved fanatically by admirers and does just like Tinubu



Need I add more?

Don't mind them jare.

They have so many things in common.

Awolowo dominated nigerian politics during his life time. Its either you hate him or like.

Same now,Tinubu dominates nigerian politics.you are either for him and hate him.


BY THE WAY,NOT ALL YORUBAS LIKE AWOLOWO TOO AND AT SOME TIME,AWOLOWO WAS ALSO ACCUSED OF CORRUPTION AND GREED

alanto:

You closed the thread.
I’ve loved Tinubu a long time and I have never met him or benefited anything directly from him (besides that I live in Lagos) neither do I know someone who has but truth be told that man is a leader. I de always trip for am.
He has all the right people in place.

I didn't close it. It was an error. Am actually looking forward to getting it to FP.
We need healthy discussions like this about the merits and demerits of our Presidential aspirations and also educate this indomine generation who were either in heaven with God or in diapers when Tinubu cut his political theet


CC
Lalastical

OmoEpe:


I didn't close it. It was an error. Am actually looking forward to getting it to FP.
We need healthy discussions like this about the merits and demerits of our Presidential aspirations and also educate this indomine generation who were either in heaven with God or in diapers when Tinubu cut his political theet

I mean there’s not going to be any more argument on the post.

Moneymakeman:
If a renowned thief and drug pusher is not greedy in your tribe I wonder what he is

This is what the OP is talking about

RENOWNED?...WHERE

THIEF..WHAT


DRUG PUSHER WHERE

alanto:

I mean there’s not going to be any more argument on the post.

Ok thanks

See them again. The same machinery that whitewashed Buhari is out again. You guys have the specialty of making the devil look like a saint. Please remind me again, what exactly were Tinubu's achievement as Governor.

For the fact that you made out time to venture into this funny PR work, it means that inside you, you know that the man Tinubu needs serious image enhancing intervention. Let me ask you though, is Tinubu the best the SW can offer. Why are you guys promoting him like he is your last card. You are indirectly destroying the opportunities of other qualified Politicians in the SW. Truth is, a Fashola is more marketable than a Tinubu, but see how you are creating shades on his chances because you want to help Tinubu achieve is Childhood fantasy. You are not helping your people if you don't know. That is what is happening i the North Today, Buharis was their last card. That's why after him, it looks like there is no one again.

Eriokanmi:
I read the OP's post before commented . I didn't just jump to post comments because I wanted to book space. I was well informed when awolowo was alive and I attended a couple of his political ralies. Only those who belong to this generation without learning of the past would compare Awolowo with Tinubu....what an insult. OBJ you mentioned is in same shoes with Tinubu.

He had said its his opinion, so no offence.

I don't understand, if somebody is making reference to ones generation and trying to set a template to another one similar to tinubu's any serious case about that.

Eni4me:
I don't understand, if somebody is making reference to ones generation and trying to set a template to another one similar to tinubu's any serious case about that.

The beauty of this forum is the plurality of opinions. Even the highly revered Chief Obafemi Awolowo had is fair share of passionate haters. But noones opinion negates the other's

Thanks for that apt contribution. We need to start having this discussions at this time for us to critically examine the various characters seeking to take over the reins of leadership in the next 18months


Cheers

Who is complaining

Eriokanmi:
It's an insult to mention Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late sage, where Tinubu's matter is being discussed. Please remove it now

Obj n Tinubu should never be in a sentence.
Tinubu as proven countless times he his superior to Obasanjo in ever sphere of human endeavor. I see where your foolishly said Tinubu raised thugs please I am putting this to you n your father direct out of the following protege raised by Tinubu who can your father compare with in any ramification of human endeavor

Fashola
Aregbe
Lai
Sanwolu
Ambode
Tunde Fowler
Abike Dabiri
Dapo Abiodun
Faleke
Hazmat
Obasa
Remi Tinubu
Deji Tinubu
Solomon Adeola
Toks Abiru

You are free to compile the achievements of your father, yours n that of the rest of your entire n extended household let me know who among this Tinubu's protege you can lace their shoes talkless you or your father facing them solo.

Eriokanmi:
I read the OP's post before commented . I didn't just jump to post comments because I wanted to book space. I was well informed when awolowo was alive and I attended a couple of his political ralies. Only those who belong to this generation without learning of the past would compare Awolowo with Tinubu....what an insult. OBJ you mentioned is in same shoes with Tinubu.

He had said its his opinion, so no offence.

The greediest basta.rd yoruba land has produced

Tinubu

Coke dealer

Converter of public funds

Billion van mover

Ole jaga jaga

Sonyboom765:
Obj n Tinubu should never be in a sentence.
Tinubu as proven countless times he his superior to Obasanjo in ever sphere of human endeavor. I see where your foolishly said Tinubu raised thugs please I am putting this to you n your father direct out of the following protege raised by Tinubu who can your father compare with in any ramification of human endeavor

Fashola
Aregbe
Lai
Sanwolu
Ambode
Tunde Fowler
Abike Dabiri
Dapo Abiodun
Faleke
Hazmat
Obasa
Remi Tinubu
Deji Tinubu
Solomon Adeola
Toks Abiru

You are free to compile the achievements of your father, yours n that of the rest of your entire n extended household let me know who among this Tinubu's protege you can lace their shoes talkless you or your father facing them solo.

Hmmm. What a comment, typical of the one coming from a thug-breed...your father, your father, bla bla bla. Lmao.

Meanwhile, others here put up their argument without adding your fada in their comments. Say me well to your boss MC Oluomo and his bulion van area fada.

So you expect everyone to accept your bigoted argument without letting your wretched unwise father know he gave birth to a fool.

Eriokanmi:
Hmmm. What a comment, typical of the one coming from a thug-breed...your father, your father, bla bla bla. Lmao.

Meanwhile, others here put up their argument without adding your fada in their comments. Say me well to your boss MC Oluomo and his bulion van area fada.

The Devil is a born again Christian