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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:28pm On Nov 04, 2021
BikeMan:
This guy is comparing the early part of player’s careers. What about Harry Kane that can’t seem to remember how to score goal since Mourinho left him?

He won’t reply this.

Salah that was hopeless in the early years of his career. I remember the few games he played for Chelsea. He looked like a deer in the headlights but it has to be Mourinho’s fault.

If Salah was so golden then, how come no top 6 team picked him up instead of going to Serie A? Mourinho turned ordinary players like Deco, Ozil, Sneijder, Fabregas, Hazard, etc into killers but we won’t stop hearing about Salah or KDB(who weren’t good enough to bench Hazard or Oscar in their early days).

Chelsea FC’s first XI has never been an academy project where inconsistent youths get so much time. You get one or two chances, if you don’t make use of it, you are left behind. Abramovic isn’t a patient man. You either adapt quickly to Chelsea’s methods or die and Mourinho carried out that instruction to the T.

It’s irresponsible to put the blame on Mourinho for the way Salah, KDB, etc turned out and many other talents that didn’t flourish at Chelsea.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:28pm On Nov 04, 2021
BikeMan:
This guy is comparing the early part of player’s careers. What about Harry Kane that can’t seem to remember how to score goal since Mourinho left him?

Maybe because Nuno is worse than Mourinho or because Kane wants to leave
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:32pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Maybe because Nuno is worse than Mourinho or because Kane wants to leave

Is Pochettino also worse than Mourinho?

I can’t remember Kane topping the PL charts in goals and assists in a single season under Poch.

Care to explain that?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:34pm On Nov 04, 2021
Illimitable:


Is Pochettino also worse than Mourinho?

I can’t remember Kane topping the PL charts in goals and assists in a single season under Poch.

Care to explain that?

Kane has always topped scorers charts for multiple seasons before even knowing Mourinho. Poch groomed Kane to the striker he is now

Kane was even top scorer at the world cup before Mourinho joined

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:36pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Kane has always topped scorers charts for multiple seasons before even knowing Mourinho. Poch groomed Kane to the striker he is now

Kane was even top scorer at the world cup before Mourinho joined

Goals and assists charts in a single season.

Surely, a destructive manager shouldn’t be adding assists metric to the profile of a striker. How did Kane end up being more productive under Jose than any other manager he’s played for?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 4:41pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Kane has always topped scorers charts for multiple seasons before even knowing Mourinho. Poch groomed Kane to the striker he is now

Kane was even top scorer at the world cup before Mourinho joined
You too dey lie. Kane’s most productive year was under Mourinho. Even topped charts for both goals and assists.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 4:44pm On Nov 04, 2021
Ronaldo won his first trophy in Madrid under Mourinho, he scored 53 goals that season. The next season he scored 60 goals but I’m supposed to believe someone that said Martial is better than Harry Kane grin

Airmark Abeg help me find that post grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:47pm On Nov 04, 2021
BikeMan:
You too dey lie. Kane’s most productive year was under Mourinho. Even topped charts for both goals and assists.

Raumdeuter in the mud. cheesy grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 5:15pm On Nov 04, 2021
Illimitable:


Raumdeuter in the mud. cheesy grin
I want to see how he will spin this.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:37pm On Nov 04, 2021
BikeMan:
You too dey lie. Kane’s most productive year was under Mourinho. Even topped charts for both goals and assists.

Kane has topped the league goals chart scored 30 goals, 29 goals, topped world cup goals before meeting Mourinho

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:37pm On Nov 04, 2021
Oasis007:
Ajax's Antony na Konfam Baller. Direct swap deal with Martial won't be bad.
When we sign am, we go start to doubt him talent...

Some go say Eredivisie no be strong league forgetting what he is doing in the UCL. See VDB that was doing well with Ajax can't get a look in here all because Ole is dumb...Make he better go better team and avoid this our unserious club.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:40pm On Nov 04, 2021
BikeMan:
Ronaldo won his first trophy in Madrid under Mourinho, he scored 53 goals that season. The next season he scored 60 goals but I’m supposed to believe someone that said Martial is better than Harry Kane grin

Airmark Abeg help me find that post grin
Ronaldo will score under anyone
Ronaldo was already scoring 42 goals as far back as 2008, ROnaldo scored way more goals even after Mourinho left

Ronaldo is even scoring under Ole, Maybe you will credit Ole for Ronaldos development

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:43pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Kane has topped the league goals chart scored 30 goals, 29 goals, topped world cup goals before meeting Mourinho

Nobody is discussing goalscoring alone with you.

We are emphasizing on assists or you want to argue assists aren’t a creative stat, it’s a destructive stat? cheesy grin

How come Kane never topped assists charts under Pochettino or under Southgate? cheesy grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:53pm On Nov 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
When we sign am, we go start to doubt him talent...

Some go say Eredivisie no be strong league forgetting what he is doing in the UCL. See VDB that was doing well with Ajax can't get a look in here all because Ole is dumb...Make he better go better team and avoid this our unserious club.

I wish United Board can let him return to Ajax in January, at least on Loan. Really pity him a lot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:54pm On Nov 04, 2021
Illimitable:


Nobody is discussing goalscoring alone with you.

We are emphasizing on assists or you want to argue assists aren’t a creative stat, it’s a destructive stat? cheesy grin

How come Kane never topped assists charts under Pochettino or under Southgate? cheesy grin

Kane was not topping assist chart because he was scoring
Mourinho did not make him score 29 or 30 goals

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:57pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:

Ronaldo will score under anyone
Ronaldo was already scoring 42 goals as far back as 2008, ROnaldo scored way more goals even after Mourinho left

Ronaldo is even scoring under Ole, Maybe you will credit Ole for Ronaldos development


grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:00pm On Nov 04, 2021
elampiro:


In every position, this team is better than what we have today. This is a world class team with Giggs and co still on the bench. JS Park too
I didn't know the topic was which team was better lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:00pm On Nov 04, 2021
Karleb:


grin grin
Abi na
Should Ronaldo score 30 goals this season maybe we will credit Ole for the development.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:05pm On Nov 04, 2021
grin

Black Messi and CR7. Money good o, Diallo Face don clean up.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 6:07pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Kane was not topping assist chart because he was scoring
Mourinho did not make him score 29 or 30 goals
Raumdeuter, don't evade the questions. How come Kane topped the goals and assist chart under Mourinho? Any explanation for that?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:11pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:


Kane was not topping assist chart because he was scoring
Mourinho did not make him score 29 or 30 goals

If he didn’t score under Mourinho, how did he win the golden boot? cheesy grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:17pm On Nov 04, 2021
Panther7:
Raumdeuter, don't evade the questions. How come Kane topped the goals and assist chart under Mourinho? Any explanation for that?

Making assists is negative.

Ask him how Ozil had his most productive seasons under Mourinho.

Mourinho is so destructive that Ozil produced 80 assists under him in 3 seasons. cheesy grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 6:26pm On Nov 04, 2021
BikeMan:
Ronaldo won his first trophy in Madrid under Mourinho, he scored 53 goals that season. The next season he scored 60 goals but I’m supposed to believe someone that said Martial is better than Harry Kane grin

Airmark Abeg help me find that post grin

grin

raumdeuter:


Martial has more in his arsenal than Lukaku Kane and Perez together


Even Henry wasnt this good at 19

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:30pm On Nov 04, 2021
Raumdeuter wrote that?

Was he drunk? cheesy grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:36pm On Nov 04, 2021
grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:40pm On Nov 04, 2021
Panther7:
Ramdeuter, don't evade the questions. How come Kane topped the goals and assist chart under Mourinho? Any explanation for that?
Illimitable:


If he didn’t score under Mourinho, how did he win the golden boot? cheesy grin

Kane scored more goals under Poch than under Mourinho. Its basically Kane doing what he has always done which is score goals

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:41pm On Nov 04, 2021
airmark:


grin


here comes dumb and dumber

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 6:44pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:



Kane scored more goals under Poch than under Mourinho. Its basically Kane doing what he has always done which is score goals

Agreed, what of the assist part? Care to explain how Kane suddenly became creative under Mourinho?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 6:45pm On Nov 04, 2021
Illimitable:


Making assists is negative.

Ask him how Ozil had his most productive seasons under Mourinho.

Mourinho is so destructive that Ozil produced 80 assists under him in 3 seasons. cheesy grin
Baba dey evade that question like plague cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:49pm On Nov 04, 2021
raumdeuter:

Kane scored more goals under Poch than under Mourinho. Its basically Kane doing what he has always done which is score goals

Kane was more productive under Mourinho than in any season under Poch.

Under Poch
29 goals, 7 assists(16/17)
30 goals, 3 assists(17/18)

Under Mourinho
23 goals, 14 assists(20/21)

23 + 14 is more productive than (29 + 7) or (30 + 3).

So I am asking you again, how did the most destructive coach on the planet manage to get Kane his most productive season ever?

We need answers. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:51pm On Nov 04, 2021
Panther7:
Baba dey evade that question like plague cheesy cheesy

This is Raumdeuter’s current situation. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On Nov 04, 2021
Panther7:
Agreed, what of the assist part? Care to explain how Kane suddenly became creative under Mourinho?

He became more creative because he became less of a scorer.

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