Uptheante:

But your name is that of a black female IndecentStar. How are we sure u are genuine?

I dunno what you heard bout me

Kobojunkie:
You really need to decide for yourself if Jesus Christ is your Master/God or if Paul is, since you keep second guessing Jesus Christ by consulting Paul instead.

This how to deal with xtian zombies. Admit any normal human behaviour like sex, partying etc. are sins but God is always there to forgive even if you do it 1million times!. Gbam! They will not argue with you again!

Ammishaddai:
Bros , I hope you remember you're Africa ;

What does that means? That as an African, I have got to believe that she has been "used" just because someone said so? Lol

not America where they have health care and liberalism.

What does health care and liberalism have to do with the people talking about seers, churches and prayer houses?

batb:

This how to deal with xtian zombies. Admit any normal human behaviour like sex, partying etc. are sins but God is always there to forgive even if you do it 1million times!. Gbam! They will not argue with you again!

ROFLMAO


I used to have to do it that way for peace to reign, but I can't do that any more since I also believe in Truth, Jesus Christ and have to hate the lies they tell in His name.

Dabyes:

1. So, where did Jesus say the talent he was talking about in the parable was understanding? Since you take the bible so literally, then how come you are taking the talents he talked about to mean understanding?

2. And yes, the bible is correct no doubt about that. But those same Gospels are written by men, aren't they? Or did Jesus write them himself? It is very possible that they might have forgotten something or didn't include everything Jesus said or did. Maybe your own bible was written by Jesus himself or it was sent to you directly by Jesus, I don't know. The four Gospels have their differences, does it know mean that they were talking about two Jesus, no. There are different because it was written from different perspectives. That's where the holy spirit comes in again, he reveals to use what Jesus actually meant and what he was talking about. So, I don't see why you choose to throw every other thing said in the bible and hold on to only the gospels when all are written by men.

1. Read Matthew 13 vs 10 - 17 where Jesus Christ references the lesson of Parable of 10 talents in relation to understanding.

2. Again, Jesus Christ never told you or anyone that the Holy Spirit is what you need in order to understand/comprehend the New Covenant Law, the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and the instructions He gave you as regards that is found again in Matthew 13 vs 10 - 17 .

By the way, the Bible is not correct/holy or whatever else you folks like to believe of it. The only Truth in the book is the Word of God aka the Words written as coming out of God's own mouth... that what Jesus Christ taught - Matthew 4 vs 4 & John 14 vs 1 - 5

Kobojunkie:
1. Read Matthew 13 vs 10 - 17 where Jesus Christ references the lesson of Parable of 10 talents in relation to understanding.

2. Again, Jesus Christ never told you or anyone that the Holy Spirit is what you need in order to understand/comprehend the New Covenant Law, the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and the instructions He gave you as regards that is found again in Matthew 13 vs 10 - 17 .

By the way, the Bible is not correct/holy or whatever else you folks like to believe of it. The only Truth in the book is the Word of God aka the Words written as coming out of God's own mouth... that what Jesus Christ taught - Matthew 4 vs 4 & John 14 vs 1 - 5

Yes Jesus taught them and they are true but were you there when it was taught? Were you there when it was written? Did Jesus write them himself? Were they not written by men? Is it not possible that they didn't write exactly what Jesus said word for word? The whole bible was written by men whether you choose to believe or not? Jesus did not write any book himself. It takes divine understanding from God to know exactly what he's trying to say in the bible. He chooses to reveal himself to each and every one of us in different unique ways. His word are made new with each breaking day. You can never finish understanding God's words no matter how many times you read it.
And any understanding at all you have of God is because he chose to reveal it to you. As far as you've agreed that the understanding you have does not come from you but from God, then we're saying the same thing.
So if you choose to believe in the bible, believe all because they're all inspired by God even though written by men or if you choose to keep deceiving yourself with the Gospel being the only true words of Jesus(which he never wrote) then shalom.

Dabyes:
3. In Matt 16:13-17, the response Simon gave is a response one would expect him to give from his own understanding or common sense since he has been with Jesus and have seen his marvelous works, heard him preach severally for three years, followed him everywhere. So, it must been easy for him to say those words from his understanding of Jesus.
But see what Jesus told him. It shows that even that common sense, that little understanding comes from above.
At least you acknowledge that this understanding of yours comes from God and that's fine because God the father and God the holy spirit are one and the same person. Perhaps you have a problem attributing it to the holy spirit.

4. And I never said those contradictory statements made by Jesus are parables. I only said that Jesus doesn't always speak in a direct and concise manner every time. Sometimes he says things beyond human reasoning and if taken literally could actually be contradictory. So, the father needs to reveal to you what is actually meant.

5. You also seem to believe that only lust is sin and what it leads to isn't. You're the son of your father, right? You're not your father even though he gave birth to you, agreed. But does that mean you don't have the generic make up of your father? A tree first establishes it's root before the stem, branches, leaves or fruit. Does that mean the stem, branches or leaves are any less part of the tree? No. Likewise lust, adultery and fornication. Lust is the root, adultery and fornication are the branches and leaves. Uproot the root which is lust and you uproot the whole tree. That's probably why Jesus laid more emphasis on lust being the sin because it's the root, it doesn't make adultery and fornication any less a sin. Come on, where's that understanding of yours when it is actually needed. If you still believe that only lust is the sin then check out Matt 15:18-20

3. As regards Simon's response in Matthew 16 vs 13 - 17, Jesus Christ never in fact states that the Holy Spirit was involved at all. So, why shove your assumptions into the mouth of Jesus Christ?

Jesus Christ statement was that the response was revealed to Simon from the Father from whom even the Spirit of Truth- John 14 vs 15 - 17 - the another Helper also comes from.

4. Jesus Christ spoke directly to the people on numerous occasions so it is almost facetious to go around making it seem that He almost always spoke in parables. He spoke to mostly uneducated laymen of His time - majority of His followers were from the low class and so He did speak clearly to them much of the time and many of them where able to reason what He said even if they remained blind to His Truth as many do even today.

The key to understanding Jesus Christ is obedience of His commandments /instructions. It is as simple as that in the Kingdom of God.

5. I am afraid your father-son analogy reveals you don't understand any of what Jesus Christ has taught of sins in either passage referenced so far.

As for Lust being sin, go back and read what Jesus Christ taught you in plain speak in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32. Lust in your heart after a woman is what sin is. The acts that follow are not judged as sin by God. What Jesus Christ tells you is judged as sin instead is that Lust in one's heart after a woman.

If you spend time ruminating on this and what Jesus Christ further explained in Matthew 15 vs 18 - 20, you will maybe come to see that, what He is in fact saying to you is it doesn't matter whether you actually engage in the sexual act - fornication, masturbation, etc. or whether you remain a virgin - since you are condemned as having sinned against God the very moment you lust in your heart after a woman.

So again, what Jesus Christ teaches in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32 about Lust being sin - sex is not sin - is very correct.

Dabyes:

Yes Jesus taught them and they are true but were you there when it was taught? Were you there when it was written? Did Jesus write them himself? Were they not written by men? Is it not possible that they didn't write exactly what Jesus said word for word? The whole bible was written by men whether you choose to believe or not? Jesus did not write any book himself. It takes divine understanding from God to know exactly what he's trying to say in the bible. He chooses to reveal himself to each and every one of us in different unique ways. His word are made new with each breaking day. You can never finish understanding God's words no matter how many times you read it.
And any understanding at all you have of God is because he chose to reveal it to you. As far as you've agreed that the understanding you have does not come from you but from God, then we're saying the same thing.
So if you choose to believe in the bible, believe all because they're all inspired by God even though written by men or if you choose to keep deceiving yourself with the Gospel being the only true words of Jesus(which he never wrote) then shalom.

Again, I don't believe in the Bible and I don't believe your Bible is some Holy inerrant book, no. As you rightly pointed out scripture was written of the hands of humans and in the language of humans to be comprehended by humans. And your Bible was translated, and compiled by humans as well. So it makes no sense of any kind to put one's trust in such a book or even believe such a book is holy to begin with.

Instead I believe in God and His Sovereignty. I trust that God is able to manage the integrity of His very own Words through out time and even the plans of men. I believe that Heaven and Earth will pass away but not one jot of the Word of God will change ... just as Jesus Christ is written to have declared.

authority2006:


What does that means? That as an African, I have got to believe that she has been "used" just because someone said so? Lol


What does health care and liberalism have to do with the people talking about seers, churches and prayer houses?

Bros, you can choose to deceive yourself , but kindly leave those of us who have first hand experience out of your convictions

Kobojunkie:
Did you, with your own two eyes, in fact witness the removal of this frog from the gal in question?

The video was all over the media nah.

Halo22:
The video was all over the media nah.

All over which media?

Jen96:
You nailed it. This was what I v bin trying to explain . Thank you for using the spirit of wisdom

It seems you are still struggling to comprehend/understand what it is Jesus taught in Matthew 5 vs 27-32 about Lust as sin and sex not sin.

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Let's consider the case of 3 individuals Bayo, John and Bob, and mike , all of who claim to be Christians.

1. Bayo, a virgin still, lusts after women freely in his heart, even though he has never had sex with any woman as he believes in keeping himself for the right woman or until marriage.

2. John is what many would like to believe a happily married man as he has not engaged in extramarital affairs in his over 10 years of marriage. However, John has a list of women he desires and regularly lusts after but his biggest fear is that sex with someone you are not married to is taboo, an old Covenant idea which he ignorantly holds onto, even though Jesus Christ is who John claims to believe in.

3. Bob, has had numerous relationships in his past and only started the current one after he came to become a Christian. He has yet to have sex in his current relationship but regularly lusts in his heart after his girlfriend among other gals. Bob is convinced that as long as he does not engage, he is fine.

4. Then there is Mike, a chronic masturbater. He believes and condemns fornication, adultery, homosexuality, etc because in his eyes, those are sins against God. But masturbation is not sin because there is no actual sex involved.

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all 4 men above have one thing in common, and that is they sin against God everything they lust in their hearts after women, this according to Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 5 vs 27-32 . It doesn't matter whether they eventually have sex or not since they are condemned as adulterers the moment that lust is registered in their hearts after a woman.

It doesn't matter what their fellow men see or know as the sin is of the heart and not of the body.

Kobojunkie:
Again, I don't believe in the Bible and I don't believe your Bible is some Holy inerrant book, no. As you rightly pointed out scripture was written of the hands of humans and in the language of humans to be comprehended by humans. And your Bible was translated, and compiled by humans as well. So it makes no sense of any kind to put one's trust in such a book or even believe such a book is holy to begin with.

Instead I believe in God and His Sovereignty. I trust that God is able to manage the integrity of His very own Words through out time and even the plans of men. I believe that Heaven and Earth will pass away but not one jot of the Word of God will change ... just as Jesus Christ is written to have declared.

Now, you have clearly identified your problem. You don't believe in the bible, simple and short.

Kobojunkie:
It seems you are still struggling to comprehend/understand what it is Jesus taught in Matthew 5 vs 27-32 about Lust as sin and sex not sin.

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Let's consider the case of 3 individuals Bayo, John and Bob, and mike , all of who claim to be Christians.

1. Bayo, a virgin still, lusts after women freely in his heart, even though he has never had sex with any woman as he believes in keeping himself for the right woman or until marriage.

2. John is what many would like to believe a happily married man as he has not engaged in extramarital affairs in his over 10 years of marriage. However, John has a list of women he desires and regularly lusts after but his biggest fear is that sex with someone you are not married to is taboo, an old Covenant idea which he ignorantly holds onto, even though Jesus Christ is who John claims to believe in.

3. Bob, has had numerous relationships in his past and only started the current one after he came to become a Christian. He has yet to have sex in his current relationship but regularly lusts in his heart after his girlfriend among other gals. Bob is convinced that as long as he does not engage, he is fine.

4. Then there is Mike, a chronic masturbater. He believes and condemns fornication, adultery, homosexuality, etc because in his eyes, those are sins against God. But masturbation is not sin because there is no actual sex involved.

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all 4 men above have one thing in common, and that is they sin against God everything they lust in their hearts after women, this according to Jesus Christ taught in Matthew 5 vs 27-32 . It doesn't matter whether they eventually have sex or not since they are condemned as adulterers the moment that lust is registered in their hearts after a woman.

It doesn't matter what their fellow men see or know as the sin is of the heart and not of the body.

You believe lust is the only single but what follows isn't. And I believe that both lust and what it leads to are all sins, infact I believe that, whatever you do whether through your thoughts or actions that does not show or express love towards your neighbor is a sin. I will no longer dispute your opinions because it is now clear that we don't believe in the same thing.

Dabyes:

You believe lust is the only single but what follows isn't. And I believe that both lust and what it leads to are all sins, infact I believe that, whatever you do whether through your thoughts or actions that does not show express love towards your neighbor is a sin. I will no longer dispute your opinions because it is now clear that we don't believe in the same thing.

This is not about what you and I believe but instead about what God's standard of Righteousness, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, the Gospel teaches.

It is by His Law- His very teachings and commandments- that we are judged, not by our opinions in this.

Kobojunkie:
This is not about what you and I believe but instead about what God's standard of Righteousness, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, the Gospel teaches.

It is by His Law- His very teachings and commandments- that we are judged, not by our opinions in this.

Keep justifying ur sinful life ko? You believe only in d four canonical books n ignore the rest of the Bible. They ere also written by men , u think they will remember every thing Jesus said or if they write Everything Jesus did will the Bible be enough? Enjoy living in fornication o

Jen96:
Keep justifying ur sinful life ko? You believe only in d four canonical books n ignore the rest of the Bible. They ere also written by men , u think they will remember every thing Jesus said or if they write Everything Jesus did will the Bible be enough? Enjoy living in fornication o

i never stated that I believe only in the 4 Gospels either. I made it more than clear that my trust is in God and the Word out of God's Mouth instead.

If you don't what Jesus Christ taught and declared finished, that is on you.

As for the statement in bold, that you don't even see how that very question stands as indictment against you, speaks volumes.

Kobojunkie:
i never stated that I believe only in the 4 Gospels either. I made it more than clear that my trust is in God and the Word out of God's Mouth instead.

If you don't what Jesus Christ taught and declared finished, that is on you.

As for the statement in bold, that you don't even see how that very question stands as indictment against you, speaks volumes.

Then u r contradicting yourself because Apostle Paul said Fornication is a sin but yesterday u clearly said since Jesus didn't say it it's not a sin

Kobojunkie:
This is not about what you and I believe but instead about what God's standard of Righteousness, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, the Gospel teaches.

It is by His Law- His very teachings and commandments- that we are judged, not by our opinions in this.

Which teachings and commandments do you speak of my friend? Is it the one in the book you don't believe in or which one? If Jesus, the same Jesus you claim is the only one you believe in can make reference to other books of the Bible in his teathings, even used the old testament to teach in the synagogue. Then who are you to throw them away or discuss them unless you do not totally believe in him.

Now to the parable of talents which is not even Matt 13:10-17 as you said but Matt 25:14-30, Jesus did not make any direct link to the talent being understanding but you who seems to take everything Jesus says so literally have interpreted it as such and you're not wrong. The talents Jesus spoke of could be understanding, it could be wisdom, love, it could be any good gift that comes from God. And the holy spirit has chosen to reveal it to you as understanding even if you're trying to fight it. Isn't it wonderful how God works even when we don't acknowledge his spirit?
You know, you could be a very good spokesman for God if you just stop trying to fight it.�

Jen96:
Then u r contradicting yourself because Apostle Paul said Fornication is a sin but yesterday u clearly said since Jesus didn't say it it's not a sin

Your problem remains comprehension....

Anyways, I have done my duty in conveying th teaching of Jesus Christ where Lust and sex is concerned. You decide whether He is good enough for you as is or you need to Add more to God's Law to make it acceptable for you.

Dabyes:


Which teachings and commandments do you speak of my friend? Is it the one in the book you don't believe in or which one? If Jesus, the same Jesus you claim is the only one you believe in can make reference to other books of the Bible in his teathings, even used the old testament to teach in the synagogue. Then who are you to throw them away or discuss them unless you do not totally believe in him.

Now to the parable of talents which is not even Matt 13:10-17 as you said but Matt 25:14-30, Jesus did not make any direct link to the talent being understanding but you who seems to take everything Jesus says so literally have interpreted it as such and you're not wrong. The talents Jesus spoke of could be understanding, it could be wisdom, love, it could be any good gift that comes from God. And the holy spirit has chosen to reveal it to you as understanding even if you're trying to fight it. Isn't it wonderful how God works even when we don't acknowledge his spirit?
You know, you could be a very good spokesman for God if you just stop trying to fight it.�

Again, Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law and this Law is for the Kingdom of God. It compares to the Old Covenant Law of Moses which God gave aa an agreement to those of the blood of Jacob, and as Law in the Kingdom of Canaan.

However, the New Law embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, is a standard that is much higher than all of man's laws and moral rules. And Jesus Christ offere us a light yoke and easy burden compared to the Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH - there are about 100 commandments all together - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30

The details of the New Covenant - Blessings, Curses, Eligibility requirements/Conditions, Promises, Rituals - the terms and conditions of the agreement are recorded in the 4 Gospels and this is the Law in the Kingdom of God. Whenever you decide to get serious and know who Jesus Christ really is, you can check it out.

And like the Old Covenant, obedience is the Key to obtaining the promises and benefits of the New Covenant in the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
Your problem remains comprehension....

Anyways, I have done my duty in conveying th teaching of Jesus Christ where Lust and sex is concerned. You decide whether He is good enough for you as is or you need to Add more to God's Law to make it acceptable for you.

1 conrithians 6 vs 9 to 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law and this Law is for the Kingdom of God. It compares to the Old Covenant Law of Moses which God gave aa an agreement to those of the blood of Jacob, and as Law in the Kingdom of Canaan.

However, the New Law embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, is a standard that is much higher than all of man's laws and moral rules. And Jesus Christ offere us a light yoke and easy burden compared to the Old Covenant Law of Moses, YHWH - there are about 100 commandments all together - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30

The details of the New Covenant - Blessings, Curses, Eligibility requirements/Conditions, Promises, Rituals - the terms and conditions of the agreement are recorded in the 4 Gospels and this is the Law in the Kingdom of God. Whenever you decide to get serious and know who Jesus Christ really is, you can check it out.

And like the Old Covenant, obedience is the Key to obtaining the promises and benefits of the New Covenant in the Kingdom of God.

Yeah yeah, says the guy who doesn't believe the bible but claims he knows exactly what was in Jesus mind from "his understanding". Where did you get all these facts you just wrote now? Well, I guess it isn't the bible, cause you know, you don't believe it.

Jen96:
1 conrithians 6 vs 9 to 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Actually, our Mr. I know Jesus mind from my understanding doesn't believe the bible

Dabyes:
Yeah yeah, says the guy who doesn't believe the bible but claims he knows exactly what was in Jesus mind from "his understanding". Where did you get all these facts you just wrote now? Well, I guess it isn't the bible, cause you know, you don't believe it.

Like I said, the understanding of the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ promised will be given to you if you use the understanding you have- Matthew 13 vs 10 - 17

Everything I have said so far is contained in that book, however, you have to obey God's commandment in other to receive the understanding you seek and again Jesus Christ made this known right there in scriptures for all to read and know that those who love Him are those who obey Him, who do as He asks - John 14 vs 15 - 25 and John 15 vs 14.

Ultimately, you have to chose whether you will live Jesus Christ as He says you should and then submit to and obey His teachings and commandments as given you there. This or you continue to swim the channels alone on your own terms.

Dabyes:


Actually, our Mr. I know Jesus mind from my understanding doesn't believe the bible

hahahaha I think so. And he is part of the ppl that choose only the part of the Bible that pleases them.

Dabyes:
Actually, our Mr. I know Jesus mind from my understanding doesn't believe the bible

Yes, I do not believe the Bible nor do I believe it is inerrant and holy at all - that book was can never be made Holy.

Now, here's the funny thing about that, i also don't think the scriptures are incomplete nor do I believe Jesus Christ and God failed in delivering the entirely of His New Covenant Law into the hands of His followers and to the world of men, like you do.

I also don't believe it matters that the Word of God was written and processed by hands of men, nor does it matter that what you call your Bible only contains a select count of scripture Canonized by the rules of men.

All of that is meaninglessness... you know why? Because I trust God and His Word alone. If you know or even understood the meaning of that, you would be free from the shackles of believing in a mere book and begin embracing God and God alone , not God and a book.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, I do not believe the Bible nor do I believe it is inerrant and holy at all - that book was can never be made Holy.

Now, here's the funny thing about that, i also don't think the scriptures are incomplete nor do I believe Jesus Christ and God failed in delivering the entirely of His New Covenant Law into the hands of His followers and to the world of men, like you do.

I also don't believe it matters that the Word of God was written and processed by hands of men, nor does it matter that what you call your Bible only contains a select count of scripture Canonized by the rules of men.

All of that is meaninglessness... you know why? Because I trust God and His Word alone. If you know or even understood the meaning of that, you would be free from the shackles of believing in a mere book and begin embracing God and God alone , not God and a book.

Of course you don't believe the bible is incomplete. Why would you need to? When you've already made it incomplete yourself by selecting only a part of it that appeals to you and your messed up understanding.
You trust God alone but that trust is still built from what you know from a book you don't believe in even if it's just a small part of it.
I believe God, his word which is the bible and its entirety. I believe God's word is not limited to the bible. God's speaks through different ways, the bible, the holy spirit, even through our neighbors.
Even Jesus knew that we can't understand him using only our understanding and that's why he saw it fit to send us a helper, a counselor, the holy spirit. If Jesus saw the need to send a helper to people who has practically lived with him for three years a helper, how much more us who have never seen him? Why didn't Jesus just say, " well, you guys have your own understanding, that should be enough for you guys". So bro, there's no shit you can tell me about the holy spirit not being a necessity to know God better.

NarcissistKing:


Y'all are bunch of clowns.

Hopefully your type dont learn the hard way... If ur eye never see,be humble and let those wey their eye don see get help.. its not a must yu type..

ActuaRise696969:


She is empty means she is now a Non-Player Character, nothing is really taken but her direct channel to the Spirit has been hijacked therefore she is cut-off from receiving direct signal from source - her entire life script and story hijacked - in essence, if the story she was to act out in life was a very joyful pleasant one, it has been taken over and someone can actually assume ownership of what was to be her play as avatar within the simulation. While she is now controlled by the matrix AI running the simulation as a non-player character without direct access to her Soul personality.

But if she can take ownership of herself and surrender to total silent meditation without any sensory input, the Soul can reconnect back to her resonant frequency and restore her blueprint otherwise, she will remain an NPC and when her death comes, body decomposes and it is end of it, nothing goes back to Soul.

Well, there are uncountable NPCs and clones....whose existence end here after their demise, but just sad when a piloted vehicle loses its driver to smarter NPC who needed it badly.

Nice. I guess you've watched Free Guy before.

berbs:


Nice. I guess you've watched Free Guy before.

No idea what that is. I sure think it might be in line with possible reality.

The spiritual determines the physical. When God created human beings, he planted what will make each person excel or be valuable on earth. What he planted is called virtue/glory. From birth, every child has virtue; unfortunately, many people lost their glory before they became an adult. Evil men or women can steal the glory. Glory can be stolen , glory can be caged, glory can be buried, glory can be destroyed, and glory can be transferred. Going to prayer houses may not help much because most of them are using marine powers. She must be born again and surrender her life to God. She needs to find a genuine deliverance ministry and they will assist her through deliverance prayers. Nothing is too difficult for God to do. She will recover what was stolen in Jesus name. Please continue to encourage her so that she will regain her confidence. The truth of the matter is a spiritual problem need a spiritual solution