ojeysky:


Hmm.....more details below Sir



My apologies a good lifepo4 cells and a good lead acid is what I intend, but my own definition of good lifepo4 cells may be different from yours...see further....




You are right the above will be very laughable if that was what I said.




My definition of good lithium battery is on the cells, pylontech is very good but over 80% of that I attribute it that to packaging and the BMS. If I get similar packaging and BMS then apply precautions applied by pylontech on their BMS on my Eve cells I will get close to similar performance as pylontech.....so for me it's the content that matter most, get a good lithium cell and manage it as you wish.



If the capacity and quality is questionable then why use that as your measuring yardstick Sir? Brief maths, I just saw Valto post 8s/24v 280ah for 680k add another 100k for BMS and any other miscellaneous....780k. Note that those cells are good grade A cells....I hear there is Grade A+ but grade A is fine for my level

Lead acid capacity safe equivalent will be 500AH 24V
That is approximately 6 units of 160AH 12v batteries. A good lead acid should sell for 120k in naija of today. That is 720k. Yet you may still be running your lifepo4 after those lead acid might have packed up. Let's not include other advantages over LA such as weight and space consumption and high C rates



Felicity is not bad, what is bad in Felicity is that they are not being truthful with providing actual capacity of their cells.... otherwise the cells themselves are not bad.

You are right.The cost of good LA is almost same as Lithium.The best LA cannot give you more than 700 cycles @50% DOD while the basic Lithium will still give 2000 cycles @ 80% DOD,worst case scenario. Many companies which are traditionally LA manufacturers are gradually producing Lithium as well because they know that is the future.I am aware that even the sole representative of Index batteries in Nigeria is already working on launching its brand of Lithium.I also know a company,Cloud Energy that is already selling its brand of 12v 200ah and 24v130ah Lithium for fairly good price ( although their Lithium is just basic,no meter and no monitoring capacity).

earthrealm:


I HAVE FOR SALE, though used to top balance my bank. still same as new. selling it for 45k firm

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omotoda:



You are right.The cost of good LA is almost same as Lithium.The best LA cannot give you more than 700 cycles @50% DOD while the basic Lithium will still give 2000 cycles @ 80% DOD,worst case scenario. Many companies which are traditionally LA manufacturers are gradually producing Lithium as well because they know that is the future.I am aware that even the sole representative of Index batteries in Nigeria is already working on launching its brand of Lithium.I also know a company,Cloud Energy that is already selling its brand of 12v 200ah and 24v130ah Lithium for fairly good price ( although their Lithium is just basic,no meter and no monitoring capacity).

Indeed!!!
until one taste lithium u will never understand. Bms should not stop anyone from using lithium. An active balancer is enough ( My opinion). If I can check my fuel gauge nothing stops me from checking my battery voltage during discharge.

Need this or equivalent specifically to charge LifePO4.

dollarnaira:
Need this or equivalent specifically to charge LifePO4.

The one I have is 10v to 16v but am guessing you need it to charge lower voltage

mcTrinity:


Permit me to state that this statement is flawed and misleading sir...

You might want to be specific. You stated "good lead acid"... But didn't specify whether the Lithium counterpart is also "good" or one of the numerous low-grades

Are you saying that, for the same usable capacity, a pylontech lithium is almost same price as a Felicity or Luminous LA?... Very laughable

For same quality, Lithium is still far higher in price. Compare pylontech or BYD Lithium with the likes of Varta LA...etc.

There are extremely cheap lithium batteries with extreme low quality flooding the market.

Tomorrow, you'll see a 12V 100Ah Lithium going for 90k and someone would say its almost or same price with LA. Even when the real capacity and quality of the battery is very questionable

You sound like you can compare Felicity Lithium with German Varta or Exide LA. They can never be mate... Cheers

This Debate has been discussed, I don't just understand your Analysis..

I will take Felicity Lithium over your German Varta or Exide LA
LA will still be LA, if you use it at 80% DOD, it's won't last as long as Felicity.

Problem with LA is the Cycles life and DOD.

With Lithium you will still Discharge at 90% DOD without fears.. Funny enough the voltage will still be in a Good range..

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Please share your contact? Mine is 080 35 23 3535

ojeysky:


The one I have is 10v to 16v but am guessing you need it to charge lower voltage

In a way yes but is this adjustable too like d above?

dollarnaira:


In a way yes but is this adjustable too like d above?

Yes the one I have can only be adjusted within that voltage range.... Can't do 3v charging for instance

ojeysky:


Please share your contact? Mine is 080 35 23 3535

Are you on whatsapp with this number? then i can reach easily i am currently not in the country right now

Can Glowatt Inverter do a better 3phase shift when connected. I need a good 3phase Inverter at 48V or 3 numbers of Inverter that work as 3phase when connected.

Do you have first hand experience on this cloud energy 24V, 130AH.

I also came across Kartel 12V, 200AH.
I wonder if there real capacities are as stated.

omotoda:


Cloud Energy that is already selling its brand of 12v 200ah and 24v130ah Lithium for fairly good price ( although their Lithium is just basic,no meter and no monitoring capacity).

dejidotun2000:
Do you have first hand experience on this cloud energy 24V, 130AH.

I also came across Kartel 12V, 200AH.
I wonder if there real capacities are as stated.

they are selling 12v 150ah for 200k,which i dont think is achievable factoring in the real cost of grade A 150ah cells, good bms and casing.

dejidotun2000:
Do you have first hand experience on this cloud energy 24V, 130AH.

I also came across Kartel 12V, 200AH.
I wonder if there real capacities are as stated.

I don't oo.Also in the market shopping for affordable Lithium

Valto:
they are selling 12v 150ah for 200k,which i dont think is achievable factoring in the real cost of grade A 150ah cells, good bms and casing.

Cloud energy's 12v 200ah is N240,500,the 24v 130ah is N332,000,48v150ah is N620k.

I can't really say their real capacity though

Which of them is this ?
12V, 200AH Cloud energy is #222, 500 which can be extrapolated to #167 000 for a 12V, 150AH model.

Valto:
they are selling 12v 150ah for 200k ,which i dont think is achievable factoring in the real cost of grade A 150ah cells, good bms and casing.

desiji:

Are you on whatsapp with this number? then i can reach easily i am currently not in the country right now

Yes I am

dejidotun2000:
Which of them is this ?
12V, 200AH Cloud energy is #222, 500 which can be extrapolated to #167 000 for a 12V, 150AH model.

there u have it. doesn't add up. i dont believe it is real capacity.

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ojtech8291:
Can Glowatt Inverter do a better 3phase shift when connected. I need a good 3phase Inverter at 48V or 3 numbers of Inverter that work as 3phase when connected.

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Valto:
there u have it. doesn't add up. i dont believe it is real capacity.

Well,if we agree then that the quoted prices for the affordable Lithium brands is not in tandem with the stated capacity,then I think it would be right to say then that the price gap between Lithium and AGM is still quite far.

Me I have jejely moved to tubular until Lithium becomes truly affordable and I have seen difference already when compared to SMF.At least the tubular will give better performance and longevity than AGM.

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omotoda:


Well,if we agree then that the quoted prices for the affordable Lithium brands is not in tandem with the stated capacity,then I think it would be right to say then that the price gap between Lithium and AGM is still quite far.

Me I have jejely moved to tubular until Lithium becomes truly affordable and I have seen difference already when compared to SMF.At least the tubular will give better performance and longevity than AGM.

For those who are looking for company packaged littium banks, affordability can be relative but if you DIY or buy from reliable DIY sources you may find that it doesn't make much sense to go LA (cost wise). It's better you either get a unit of that brand and confirm or ask for experience from people who have used same brand.....that was how we knew about the Felicity lifepo4 capacity issues. However if you found tubular to be more affordable and meets your needs why not, LA and littium will coexist for years to come.

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What do you mean by " 3 phase shift"

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