Hismasterpiece:


You reject the belief that there is a God and therefore assert the belief that there is no God.

No I do not. I simply lack the belief that any god exists, I reserve my belief till one can be demonstrated to exist. However some concepts of god cannot be extant given the evidence we do have.

Also I don't think that beliefs are useful for me, I much prefer facts.

LordReed:


No I do not. I simply lack the belief that any god exists, I reserve my belief till one can be demonstrated to exist. However some concepts of god cannot be extant given the evidence we do have.

What evidence

Hismasterpiece:


What evidence

You cannot ask your god to tell you something you don't know or otherwise cannot find out for yourself. If your god exists then he should be able to tell you my home address.

LordReed:


You cannot ask your god to tell you something you don't know or otherwise cannot find out for yourself. If your god exists then he should be able to tell you my home address.

You didn't answer my question

Hismasterpiece:


You didn't answer my question

That is the evidence I just gave you. Ask your god to tell you my address, if your god is real he would be able to tell you, if he is not real you won't know that information just by prayer to the god alone.

Hismasterpiece:


You reject the belief that the financial statements are accurately stated and you make inquiries, calculations, recalculations, research, control testing, and sampling. Thereafter, you assert that the financial statements are not accurately stated.

Then you conduct further research and testing to see if fraud or other misconduct is afoot.

KnownUnknown:


Then you conduct further research and testing to see if fraud or other misconduct is afoot.

i'm confused

LordReed:


That is the evidence I just gave you. Ask your god to tell you my address, if your god is real he would be able to tell you, if he is not real you won't know that information just by prayer to the god alone.

why would i want to know your address?

Hismasterpiece:


why would i want to know your address?

You don't need to want to know it.

LordReed:


You don't need to want to know it.

If i don't want to know it then why should i ask for it?

Hismasterpiece:


If i don't want to know it then why should i ask for it?

To prove that your god is real. Elijah didn't need a fire but he asked for one anyway to prove his god was real. So go ahead, prove your is real.

LordReed:


To prove that your god is real. Elijah didn't need a fire but he asked for one anyway to prove his god was real. So go ahead, prove your is real.

Lol.. you and i both know that's not going to happen

Hismasterpiece:


Lol.. you and i both know that's not going to happen

Well then there is no reason to accept that your god exists since it cannot perform a task you claim it has the ability to.

LordReed:


Well then there is no reason to accept that your god exists since it cannot perform a task you claim it has the ability to.

Your request is weird. Why should i ask God to tell me your address and what motive would God have for revealing your address to me?

Hismasterpiece:



Your request is weird. Why should i ask God to tell me your address and what motive would God have for revealing your address to me?

To prove he is real and can do what you say he can.

LordReed:


To prove he is real and can do what you say he can.

God doesn't need to prove that He is real. That is already obvious

Hismasterpiece:


God doesn't need to prove that He is real. That is already obvious

It is obvious he isn't real.

LordReed:


It is obvious he isn't real.

So who is responsible for all that exists and was created?

Hismasterpiece:


So who is responsible for all that exists and was created?

There is no who responsible.

LordReed:


There is no who responsible.

So how did all things come to be?

Hismasterpiece:


So how did all things come to be?

By natural physical processes as far as we can tell.

LordReed:


By natural physical processes as far as we can tell.

And who started those natural physical processes?

What evidence is there for those things?

Hismasterpiece:


And who started those natural physical processes?

What evidence is there for those things?

No who has been shown to have started any of it. What has been shown is possibly another natural process but the real answer is we don't know.

Start with the cosmic microwave background.

LordReed:


No who has been shown to have started any of it. What has been shown is possibly another natural process but the real answer is we don't know.

Start with the cosmic microwave background.

But processes don't start themselves. have you ever seen anything that started itself in your life? so who started the process?

Hismasterpiece:


But processes don't start themselves. have you ever seen anything that started itself in your life? so who started the process?

What do you mean by don't start themselves? No being is seen starting rain so clarify what you mean.

LordReed:


What do you mean by don't start themselves? No being is seen starting rain so clarify what you mean.

If indeed natural processes started existence, then what began or gave rise to those natural processes?

Hismasterpiece:


If indeed natural processes started existence, then what began or gave rise to those natural processes?

As far as we can tell other natural processes. Of course there's a limit our investigations have reached and at that limit we say we don't know.

LordReed:


As far as we can tell other natural processes. Of course there's a limit our investigations have reached and at that limit we say we don't know.

Have you ever seen anything start itself?

Hismasterpiece:


Have you ever seen anything start itself?

What do you mean start itself?

LordReed:


What do you mean start itself?

You say the world as we know it is as a result of natural processes. I asked you who started the natural processes. I am asking you that if indeed that is true why have you never seen anything that started itself? Do cars build themselves? Do things create themselves?

Hismasterpiece:


You say the world as we know it is as a result of natural processes. I asked you who started the natural processes. I am asking you that if indeed that is true why have you never seen anything that started itself? Do cars build themselves? Do things create themselves?

No natural processes has been shown to be started by a being. The examples you have here are all artificial processes. Can you show me any natural processes that require a being, no you can't.

LordReed:


No natural processes has been shown to be started by a being. The examples you have here are all artificial processes. Can you show me any natural processes that require a being, no you can't.

Give me examples of natural processes asides the ones that you believe started this earth and all that is in it.