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Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 7:39am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Just out of curiosity is there freewill in heaven? |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by 22jumpstreet: 7:49am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Noo... Only humans where endowed with that luxury. Spirits do whatever God has created them to do.. Humans have brains. Spirit don't. 1 Like |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 7:50am On Nov 07, 2021 |
22jumpstreet:So why did some angels and Lucifer leave heaven? 2 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 7:52am On Nov 07, 2021 |
22jumpstreet:There must be freewill unless we become like robots. If there was no free will in heaven how would satan and the other Angels have rebelled according to the bible? 5 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by AntiChristian: 8:03am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Lucifer aka Satan and his kind are not Angels. They are Jinns. Humans and Jinns have freewill! Angels have no freewill. In Paradise, the lust and worries of this world will be lost! No more bad talks, bad thoughts, etc. The prevailing freewill is to attune the world of enjoyment awarded to you. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Blakjewelry(m): 8:06am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe:If there is freewill in heaven won't be long before someone find another apple to eat, and the whole circle repeat itself. 8 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 8:07am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:This makes zero sense. Nothing like Jinns and Lucifer was an Angel yet he left heaven. 1 Like |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 8:09am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Blakjewelry:If there is no freewill then we will be just like robots in heaven. That makes no sense. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by edmaraja: 8:10am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe:They didn't leave heaven of their own free will, God cast them out. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 8:12am On Nov 07, 2021 |
edmaraja:Because they acted on their freewill. 5 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by AntiChristian: 8:19am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Angels do not rebel as they were created to obey their creator only. It makes perfect sense except to one whose sense is blocked from reasoning! 5 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 8:21am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You are typing nonsense. 2 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by AntiChristian: 8:25am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Abi na you no get sense! 1 Like |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by advocatejare(m): 8:25am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You’re always confusing yourself and always talking as if you’re more knowledgeable than Allah whom you believe is the author of the Quran. And [mention] when We said to the angels, “Prostrate before Adam”; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers. -Quran 2:34 So if Iblees is not an angel why did the Quran say all other angels except Iblees prostated (Satan)? Antichristian you need to go back to ile Kewu 1 Like |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 8:28am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You are typing nonsense from your rotten ass when the bible clearly states Lucifer is an angel. Get the mess outta here dimwit 2 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by AntiChristian: 8:33am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Your Bible says sons of God came to sleep with pretty ladies on earth in Genesis 6:6. Who are the sons of God? Was Jesus among? Na Bible teach you all this dirty languages! I'm sure you're in the spirit! 1 Like |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 8:34am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Skrrrrrrrrrr. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Neymar1095(m): 8:37am On Nov 07, 2021 |
There is no free will in heaven. It's a prison for puppets. 5 Likes |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by advocatejare(m): 8:43am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Look at this one that has not understood his Quran. Your Quran says that Satan is the only angel to rebel against Allah and yet you’re lying that angels don’t rebel
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Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by 22jumpstreet: 10:10am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: That is a Christian myth. The devil if he exist is very much part of God. God is everywhere. We make choices with our brain which comes with our physical body. Spirits don't have it...simple logic actually |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by 22jumpstreet: 10:12am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: That is a Christian fabrication. Demons work for God. Lucifer is just the goddess of death and destruction. The yorubas calls them orishas.. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 10:15am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe:Yes! If Angels have freewill, how much more children. Freewill isn't a curse, it is a blessing. The difference is that sources of temptations may not abound since you have whatever you need in paradise. Secondly, you have a new nature that desires to please and honour God. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 10:23am On Nov 07, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Can you know better!!?? No! Your Qur'an isn't detailed on anything spiritual. You don't know that the scriptures before yours spoke about 1 God as a Spirit 2. angels of God and Fallen angels ...and Principalities, Powers, Spiritual wicked spirits in high places 3. Cherubims, Seraphims and other heavenly beings 4. Unclean Spirits, Familiar Spirits, Demons 5. Even human beings have their spirit component All you know is Jinns. No wonder you are confused. What other kinds of spirits do you know apart from Jinns? |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:51am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Did you not read that "Where the Spirit is, there is Liberty?" |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:54am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Hence Prove of Freewill! |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 11:01am On Nov 07, 2021 |
22jumpstreet:You are typing out of discussion friend. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Kholiwe(f): 11:02am On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ:Care to explain the bold? Meaning we are now robots? |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 11:11am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe:Have you ever thought of hurting your parents? Why not? Is it not because they are REAL to you as careing and loving to you (in spite of their inadequacies)? Same here. God will be TOO REAL to us. It wouldn't require FAITH to Love and Trust Him. Do you think it is part of your plan to rebel against your parents in the future? We are not Robots. Our new nature make us effortlessly swing in line with God because our faith is based on a FULL RELATIONSHIP with God |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:21am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Yes! We have always been Robots! Just a robot different from other robots. Like Tesla and other self drive cars (Most Accurately much like the Knight Rider Car ) We are robots (knight Riders) given a special power of "You decide for yourself" among other Gifts and Powers Given, Exactly as Our Creator Said that He Shall So Empower Us With. That is who we are. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:25am On Nov 07, 2021 |
TenQ: Now your statement is cancelled by the Fact and Truth that, people do rebelled against their parents according to their thinkings. As Esau, Eli's children, Samuel's children, etc proved. Therefore, your statement here does not stand. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by 22jumpstreet: 11:26am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Spirit don't have free will, only humans do... It is common sense actually. |
Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by 22jumpstreet: 11:28am On Nov 07, 2021 |
Kholiwe: Actually it is a statement of fact.. |
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