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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 11:29am On Nov 08, 2021
afrodoc2:


Do not fear, Ethan Laird will soon be here. Dalot is not good enough in my opinion.

Brandon too gas d agression
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:33am On Nov 08, 2021
Mrviktor:


Brandon too gas d agression

Laird is superior. Far superior. If he not for injuries he would have been the one promoted not Williams.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:44am On Nov 08, 2021
Leyqute:


Mood Abi mode? grin
angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:45am On Nov 08, 2021
slimghost:


Bissaka too. Dalot should be starting but then, Ole rewards poor performance.
See how easy it was for him to take the decision to hook off Bailly, just the same way he does VDB but those underperforming Brits will be getting rewarded for poor performances.

After that our loss to Sevilla in the UEL semi finals some 2 seasons ago, I told those who said Ole did not make use of the bench because of lack of quality that it was only an excuse. Ole does not allow for fair competition and that's why is seems like VDB is struggling when in real sense Ole will not give him a fair shot at starting...

Time after time, Ole has shown he is against fair competition for places. Tuanzebe last 2 seasons shot out Neymar and Mbappe in one of the performance of the season but he was dropped to the bench for months. Mourinho will show Maguire the middle finger in that instance, that's how Varane broke into the Madrid team when Pepe was out and never looked back and trust Mou to continue playing him as long as he delivers.

See Bailly now, he had a great game vs Atalanta and was only unfortunate to score an own goal but for Ole that's all he needed to replace him but then Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and Shaw have messed up since the start of the season but Ole sticks with them...

Look at the midfield, he keeps playing McFred for the protection they don't offer the defense even when he has VDB ready to step in and do a job...

A some point in our game against City, the commentator said City were playing 4 - 1 - 5 because Pep was hell bent on penetrating our packed defense that's a manager that understands the game but the dullard we parade as a coach must have McFred shielding the defense even when the opposition is parking the bus...Gundogan and KDB were not always in the Centre, they popped up everywhere causing us issues and that's exactly what VDB is good at but Ole will die seeing Fred in the middle alone, he always wants players around to protect the defense yet we keep conceding comical goals...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Gann: 11:46am On Nov 08, 2021
fredoooooo:
Without uncle VAR , cousin refrees, fergie time and penalties friends . This is exactly where you will always be on the league table ... grin cheesy
the rats gyrate when the cat is not around.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 12:13pm On Nov 08, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6sc-ueWC40

Fans really love DVB and definitely wanna see more of him on the Pitch.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:16pm On Nov 08, 2021
slimghost:


Finally eh, our only problem is Ole and the board. I am done blaming players.
The fact that Ole is even not ready to give some of these players a chance with the poor results we have been getting says a lot about his man-management skill which was being hyped before

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 12:23pm On Nov 08, 2021
omo mehn, which kyn thing be this

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 12:23pm On Nov 08, 2021
patrickmuf:
See how easy it was for him to take the decision to hook off Bailly, just the same way he does VDB but those underperforming Brits will be getting rewarded for poor performances.

After that our loss to Sevilla in the UEL semi finals some 2 seasons ago, I told those who said Ole did not make use of the bench because of lack of quality that it was only an excuse. Ole does not allow for fair competition and that's why is seems like VDB is struggling when in real sense Ole will not give him a fair shot at starting...

Time after time, Ole has shown he is against fair competition for places. Tuanzebe last 2 seasons shot out Neymar and Mbappe in one of the performance of the season but he was dropped to the bench for months. Mourinho will show Maguire the middle finger in that instance, that's how Varane broke into the Madrid team when Pepe was out and never looked back and trust Mou to continue playing him as long as he delivers.

See Bailly now, he had a great game vs Atalanta and was only unfortunate to score an own goal but for Ole that's all he needed to replace him but then Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and Shaw have messed up since the start of the season but Ole sticks with them...

Look at the midfield, he keeps playing McFred for the protection they don't offer the defense even when he has VDB ready to step in and do a job...

A some point in our game against City, the commentator said City were playing 4 - 1 - 5 because Pep was hell bent on penetrating our packed defense that's a manager that understands the game but the dullard we parade as a coach must have McFred shielding the defense even when the opposition is parking the bus...Gundogan and KDB were not always in the Centre, they popped up everywhere causing us issues and that's exactly what VDB is good at but Ole will die seeing Fred in the middle alone, he always wants players around to protect the defense yet we keep conceding comical goals...


If not for Bailly, Atalanta for do us Liverpool again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by fredoooooo: 12:26pm On Nov 08, 2021
Gann:
the rats gyrate when the cat is not around.
Cat peppersoup in a real football pot ... come out with your real moniker no need to hide grin cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:26pm On Nov 08, 2021
melodyogonna:

Injured I think.
That guy and Pogba make me wonder if we were wrong to give Mourinho stick for wanting to get rid of them.
Anyway football is a sentimental game in the end, we knew Pogba and Martial were very talented, and we knew Mourinho isn't exactly top when you talk about human relations, an easy target to blame.
Na both of them I no wan make them still be Man Utd players by next season.

Why can’t Ole just watch at least 10 games of the French national team and see how Deschamps set up the midfield for Pogba to thrive? Is that too much to ask for?

I will never understand why Ole went for Van De Beek when Partey was available in the same window with more or less the same fee. Ndidi was also an option but Ole turned the other cheek by waxing lyrical about McFred.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 12:28pm On Nov 08, 2021
Mrviktor:
Greenwood.. Bruno.. Mactominay.. Shaw.. Rashford.. Improved under ole.

Those players are not performing like they did last season..

Nd d others aren't stepping up.

Ole improved Bruno? abi Bruno improved Ole?
na ment?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 12:29pm On Nov 08, 2021
maik99:


Ole improved Bruno? abi Bruno improved Ole?
na ment?

grin

We are just too lucky to have Bruno.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 12:34pm On Nov 08, 2021
Karleb:


grin

We are just too lucky to have Bruno.

dude has basically carried the club since his first appearance vs. wolves in February 2020
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:36pm On Nov 08, 2021
maik99:


dude has basically carried the club since his first appearance vs. wolves in February 2020

Pauliticians won’t like this statement.

nitrogen will ban you from Old Trafford for that statement. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 12:38pm On Nov 08, 2021
afrodoc2:


Pauliticians won’t like this statement.

nitrogen will ban you from Old Trafford for that statement. cheesy

pauliticians grin
Doc don coin new name again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:40pm On Nov 08, 2021
Mrviktor:
Greenwood.. Bruno.. Mactominay.. Shaw.. Rashford.. Improved under ole.

Those players are not performing like they did last season..

Nd d others aren't stepping up.

Mention one new skill that
each of the aforementioned players have added to their repertoire since they have started playing for Ole?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 12:50pm On Nov 08, 2021
Illimitable:


Mention one new skill that
each of the aforementioned players have added to their repertoire since they have started playing for Ole?


Iffahia say he answer this
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 12:59pm On Nov 08, 2021
Illimitable:


Why can’t Ole just watch at least 10 games of the French national team and see how Deschamps set up the midfield for Pogba to thrive? Is that too much to ask for?

I will never understand why Ole went for Van De Beek when Partey was available in the same window with more or less the same fee. Ndidi was also an option but Ole turned the other cheek by waxing lyrical about McFred.
Pogba has simply lost interest, no be about the national team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:01pm On Nov 08, 2021
Oasis007:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6sc-ueWC40

Fans really love DVB and definitely wanna see more of him on the Pitch.
Omo, why any sensible person go dey keep talented Champions League level player for bench indefinitely?
Mehn this Chelsea coach dey give me joy, na to start Drinkwater remain for am now
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:03pm On Nov 08, 2021
melodyogonna:

Pogba has simply lost interest, no be about the national team.

We have also lost interest. Pogba is human after all.

He sees his peers in other clubs and how they are surrounded with a superior supporting cast. He’s been playing with McFred for 3 years.

Won’t you be frustrated?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:32pm On Nov 08, 2021
Illimitable:


We have also lost interest. Pogba is human after all.

He sees his peers in other clubs and how they are surrounded with a superior supporting cast. He’s been playing with McFred for 3 years.

Won’t you be frustrated?
The reason McFred or anybody isn't playing to their potential is simply the coach. You don't need world-class talents in every position to play well, I'd argue you need more good players than world-class ones in team ratio.

A player needs to be especially dull to still be unable to understand basic positioning, and have improved decision making after 3 years. or wait, maybe it's not a problem with the player's understanding, it's just that the coaches themselves don't know where each should position when their team has the ball, and where they should position when on the defensive in other to make their playing pattern effective.

Tbh if I was Pogba I'd want to leave too, but I'm not, I'm a fan and football is a sentimental game, at the moment Pogba is pissing me off.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:33pm On Nov 08, 2021
afrodoc2:


Pauliticians won’t like this statement.

nitrogen will ban you from Old Trafford for that statement. cheesy
cheesy cheesy cheesy

Pauliticianssss! I don die!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 1:38pm On Nov 08, 2021
Maguire went for his Sister's birthday party on Saturday night after the Derby cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:40pm On Nov 08, 2021
Well-coached teams are so beautiful to watch.
Many decisions have become instinctive and require no thinking at all from the part of the player to execute. When I watch our games many times I see our players getting confused when they're with the ball, indecisive. Bruno, Mctominay, Wan Bissaka, and Shaw especially sometimes hold the ball too long deliberating on which position to play it to. These things should be instinct by now, before you hold the ball you should already know where to play it, you can even play it there with your eyes closed with full confidence that a teammate should be at that position.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:40pm On Nov 08, 2021
Nezzjnr:
Maguire went for his Sister's birthday party on Saturday night after the Derby cheesy grin cheesy
What's wrong with that?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 1:41pm On Nov 08, 2021
afrodoc2:


Do not fear, Ethan Laird will soon be here. Dalot is not good enough in my opinion.

Are you following his development?. Not been watching him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibukzy: 1:41pm On Nov 08, 2021
if ole was your dad, would you want him to lose his job?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:42pm On Nov 08, 2021
melodyogonna:

The reason McFred or anybody isn't playing to their potential is simply the coach. You don't need world-class talents in every position to play well, I'd argue you need more good players than world-class ones in team ratio.

A player needs to be especially dull to still be unable to understand basic positioning, and have improved decision making after 3 years. or wait, maybe it's not a problem with the player's understanding, it's just that the coaches themselves don't know where each should position when their team has the ball, and where they should position when on the defensive in other to make their playing pattern effective.

Tbh if I was Pogba I'd want to leave too, but I'm not, I'm a fan and football is a sentimental game, at the moment Pogba is pissing me off.

The quality isn’t good enough. I agree you don’t need a world class player in every position but at least you need decent players that can accurately pass the ball when pressed, you need decent players who understand positioning(when to pivot and when to go upfront).

Darren Fletcher wasn’t a skillful player but go back and watch the old games. He had a good engine in him, he could carry the ball, he was very good at passing the ball, he could tackle and he understood positioning. These are basic skills that you would expect even from year 1 academy players.

You look at McFred and everyone knows they carry no threat offensively. I don’t think there’s any rival manager that sees McFred as a threat. They don’t go into games telling their players to beware of McFred. It’s a joke. Ole has done nothing to improve any player in his squad.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:46pm On Nov 08, 2021
melodyogonna:
Well-coached teams are so beautiful to watch.
Many decisions have become instinctive and require no thinking at all from the part of the player to execute. When I watch our games many times I see our players getting confused when they're with the ball, indecisive. Bruno, Mctominay, Wan Bissaka, and Shaw especially sometimes hold the ball too long deliberating on which position to play it to. These things should be instinct by now, before you hold the ball you should already know where to play it, you can even play it there with your eyes closed with full confidence that a teammate should be at that position.

So you know this and yet you equally claimed Ole has improved the squad?

Someone posted a video on twitter(I have been looking for it). It was a clip of Shaw and Maguire trying to play through a press against Atalanta.

You would almost cry watching these two players try to beat a press. It was an eye sore. They couldn’t do it. It was like watching an interclass game in a primary school.

You begin to ask yourself what exactly do these players get taught by the coaching crew. How can two international England players be so useless in beating a press?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:47pm On Nov 08, 2021
Illimitable:


The quality isn’t good enough. I agree you don’t need a world class player in every position but at least you need decent players that can accurately pass the ball when pressed, you need decent players who understand positioning(when to pivot and when to go upfront).

Darren Fletcher wasn’t a skillful player but go back and watch the old games. He had a good engine in him, he could carry the ball, he was very good at passing the ball, he could tackle and he understood positioning. These are basic skills that you would expect even from year 1 academy players.

You look at McFred and everyone knows they carry no threat offensively. I don’t think there’s any rival manager that sees McFred as a threat. They don’t go into games telling their players to beware of McFred. It’s a joke. Ole has done nothing to improve any player in his squad.
The positioning especially is my problem, if Mctominay was playing under Sir Alex he would have far better positioning than he does now, and his passing would be better developed than it is now. In all, I won't rate any player badly until Ole is gone and they play under a proper coach that actually understands the game, na just werey we get now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:50pm On Nov 08, 2021
Illimitable:


So you know this and yet you equally claimed Ole has improved the squad?

Someone posted a video on twitter(I have been looking for it). It was a clip of Shaw and Maguire trying to play through a press against Atalanta.

You would almost cry watching these two players try to beat a press. It was an eye sore. They couldn’t do it. It was like watching an interclass game in a primary school.

You begin to ask yourself what exactly do these players get taught by the coaching crew. How can two international England players be so useless in beating a press?
Nah, not the playing style. I meant the squad, I don't think we have any playing style. But the players we have now will give coaches better chances of winning trophies than what we had when Ole joined. Also, the recruitment structure has gotten better, with the new roles Fletcher and Murtogh abi wetin be the name is filling.

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