The truth is God is taking the creation through a process. When this process is completed, it is going to be final and unchangeable, this process started from heaven, every creature must make a choice either to accept God or to reject him.
He reveals what he revealed about himself will enable every creature Make that eternal choice.
What are the things God revealed about himself?
1. His power
2. His glory
3. His wisdom
4. His love
5. His faithfulness
6. His righteousness, holiness etc.
But God's revelation is progressive as he seemed fit to him, every revelational knowledge of God is sufficient to make this decision.

Lucifer the first angel to rebel simply reject what he knew about God for self or vain glory.
And then other angels also have to take a stand either to remain with God or to be their own boss which was satan wanted.

God allowed Adam and eve to be tested to make a choice also.

However, those angels that remained with God are called elect Angels and with the coming of christ every thing has being set.

Through christ God has proven his love, wisdom, righteousness, power etc The truth has finally being made clear.

Through christ all rebellion and pride has and will forever be humbled, and those who are on God side will forever be grateful and worship him, even satan and his angels has seen their foolishness, some day the damned will realise their foolishness at the great white throne of Jesus.
When God is done everything would be settled forever and God would be justified as truly who he is.

As a result of what christ has done there will be no tempter in the coming new heaven and earth.

Jesus christ is the solution that God has designed even before creation and was manifested at the end of time.

Also the church is playing a major role as a vessel of God to reveal himself.

Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

It was a mystery not even the Angels knew it.
Ephesians 3:9-11 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:


Christianity is what God will use to decimate the wisdom of this world that is controlled by satan.

The devil knows this hence the so many attack against the church but his failure has being guaranteed on the cross.

The wisdom of God is revealed on the cross, yes the cross that is the christianity message. It contradicts the wisdom of the world and waste it.
Hence Jesus and him crucified is the solution that God prepared before the foundation of the world.

Jesus destroyed sin when he nailed his body to the cross that why sin has been taken care of

The sinful nature in man has been destroyed and desire for sin is gone there will be no more sin once death the final enemy is destroyed

Which of the heavens?

Steep:
The truth is God is taking the creation through a process. When this process is completed, it is going to be final and unchangeable

Oh! You know God well-well. "Final and Unchangeable!"

Which is the Purification here, dey hot well-well. Only the best Good Doing Persons will be allowed in.

FOR IN THAT PLACE, NO RUBBISH AND NONSENSE WILL BE TOLERATED.

However, your heading is wrong for God is A God of Freewill and He would not remove this gift from us which is why He wants people who know that they Truly want Him, with Him, in that place.

So it would be impossible for anyone there to rebel there, for they are all people who Truly Love God and therefore like Enoch, will never rebel against Him, for they Truly Understand Him.

ActuaRise696969:
Which of the heavens?

Actually, A shiny New Heaven and Earth. This one, with its heaven will be completely destroyed and eradicated.

Dtruthspeaker:


Actually, A shiny New Heaven and Earth. This one, with its heaven will be completely destroyed and eradicated.

Seems there is additional inputs to your Bibles. Last time I read, I did not notice that the old heaven will be destroyed. So What will happen to the trillions of souls or spirits that are presently in the Christian heaven?

Will Muslims and jews be allowed access to Christian heaven?

I am assuming since God is not a Christian he might allow all faiths to access his shiny heaven

ActuaRise696969:

Seems there is additional inputs to your Bibles. Last time I read, I did not notice that the old heaven will be destroyed.

Then your baby must have torn out Revelations 20:11 and Revelation 21:1 and Mathew 24:35, Mark 13:31 etc from your Bible.

ActuaRise696969:

So What will happen to the trillions of souls or spirits that are presently in the Christian heaven?

Will Muslims and jews be allowed access to Christian heaven?

I am assuming since God is not a Christian he might allow all faiths to access his shiny heaven

That is the essence of Judgement Day. ONLY THE GUILTLESS, THE HOLY AND THE BLAMELESS SHALL BE QUALIFIED TO ENTER INTO THE NEW WORLD.

And the Bible also said a multitude which no man can count, of nations and peoples did make it there (Revelation 7:9).

So, people alre already working on being there and you can trust that Nigerians are the experts in Clandestine Qualifications

Outwardly looking like everyone else but inwardly planning and making due preparation. Sneaky people are they.

Dtruthspeaker:


Then your baby must have torn out Revelations 20:11 and Revelation 21:1 and Mathew 24:35, Mark 13:31 etc from your Bible.



That is the essence of Judgement Day. ONLY THE GUILTLESS, THE HOLY AND THE BLAMELESS SHALL BE QUALIFIED TO ENTER INTO THE NEW WORLD.

And the Bible also said a multitude which no man can count, of nations and peoples did make it there (Revelation 7:9).

So, people alre already working on being there and you can trust that Nigerians are the experts in Clandestine Qualifications

Outwardly looking like everyone else but inwardly planning and making due preparation. Sneaky people are they.

Sounds like Corpenicus did a great job in altering the content of the original scrolls and Mac Angelo did a great job drawing a great European Savior and the Vatican did a great job pushing the domination campaign with the Mind Control of the Jesuit.

What of Hell though, can fire burn your spirit?

You seem to know Jesus more than the Israelites

ActuaRise696969:

What of Hell though, can fire burn your spirit?

Don't mess with Creators, they Always know how to destroy their creations.

You do not want to be the sample who would show others that there is indeed a Fire which burns spirits.

Dtruthspeaker:


Don't mess with Creators, they Always know how to destroy their creations.

You do not want to be the sample who would show others that there is indeed a Fire which burns spirits.

So true. Don't mess with us you little pricks called humans. I personally created you.

ActuaRise696969:


So true. Don't mess with us you little pricks called humans. I personally created you.

Another new release as Produced by Workch, maker of Nairaland multi- monikers. Starring workch, naijasatanist, ssipon etc.

Humans are free to do all the things that come to our minds only setting standards for right and wrong we must leave completely for God to handle. Genesis 2:17
As long as we stay clear away from that each person is free to do whatever he/she likes provided you're not going to hurt yourself!

Dtruthspeaker:


Another new release as Produced by Workch, maker of Nairaland multi- monikers. Starring workch, naijasatanist, ssipon etc.

Just accept him, he boiled for your sins.

He’s greater than Jehovah

MaxInDHouse:
Humans are free to do all the things that come to our minds only setting standards for right and wrong we must leave completely for God to handle. Genesis 2:17
As long as we stay clear away from that each person is free to do whatever he/she likes provided you're not going to hurt yourself!

Where does Jesus come in ?

Somehow I believe the idea in your comment. God has placed both life and death, good and evil, light and darkness in front of us. It is now left for us to choose.
But in his infinite mercy and goodness he has given us the Torah to guide our choices in other for us to have an interesting and fulfilling life here on earth...
But ultimately at the end, the spirit returns to God and the body back to earth. Ecclesiastes 12:7.

I choose life so I am keeping the Torah just like he advised. You don't really need to be in a group or Cult to do so...

Dtruthspeaker:


Another new release as Produced by Workch, maker of Nairaland multi- monikers. Starring workch, naijasatanist, ssipon etc.

You are my creation, I can do with you as I please. Bow down and worship us dear human. You are my slave and if you do not bow down for me, you shall burn for eternity in a hell hole.

Your insubordination is being recorded in my book of Life

sonmvayina:


Where does Jesus come in ?

Somehow I believe the idea in your comment. God has placed both life and death, good and evil, light and darkness in front of us. It is now left for us to choose.
But in his infinite mercy and goodness he has given us the Torah to guide our choices in other for us to have an interesting and fulfilling life here on earth...
But ultimately at the end, the spirit returns to God and the body back to earth. Ecclesiastes 12:7.

I choose life so I am keeping the Torah just like he advised. You don't really need to be in a group or Cult to do so...

You are in a holographic game son, don't you read Scientific American? It is now official. We live in a simulation. The Gods lied to us. They are our elder ancestors not God. There is Spirit but the ETs are spoilt brat, they created a God concept and forced doctrines and books on humans.

It has been mind control all along.

As for Jesus, Mac Angelo created that Jesus picture under the instruction of Corpenicus and was commised by Pope and used to conquer and enslave the rest of the humans.

They got all the gold and money now the rest of humanity is barely surviving

Humans are the only creatures endowed with the freedom to make choices. Spirits where not. In other words spirits do only what God has created them to do. If you read the enuma Elish, that was the major reason God created man.
Spiritual beings are just personification of natural laws and principles..Light is light in Nigeria and Spain. It does not change. Same with darkness..
Man on the other hand can change his mind at will. That is why a man CAN NEVER be God. He is limited by time and space..

ActuaRise696969:


You are in a holographic game son, don't you read Scientific American? It is now official. We live in a simulation. The Gods lied to us. They are our elder ancestors not God. There is Spirit but the ETs are spoilt brat, they created a God concept and forced doctrines and books on humans.

It has been mind control all along.

As for Jesus, Mac Angelo created that Jesus picture under the instruction of Corpenicus and was commised by Pope and used to conquer and enslave the rest of the humans.

They got all the gold and money now the rest of humanity is barely surviving

I believe you that we live in a simulation..I have read really wide, I would not subscribe to the bold. I think some Humans deliberately withheld the truth from their fellow humans probably like you said "mind control"

God is consciousness, it is the religious that are foolishly interpreting scriptures literally like dummies. The authors never said they where writing history. The jews don't even use it in history classes but in synagogue.
We still have much to learn

Thanks a lot.

sonmvayina:


I believe you that we live in a simulation..I have read really wide, I would not subscribe to the bold. I think some Humans deliberately withheld the truth from their fellow humans probably like you said "mind control"

God is consciousness, it is the religious that are foolishly interpreting scriptures literally like dummies. The authors never said they where writing history. The jews don't even use it in history classes but in synagogue.
We still have much to learn

Thanks a lot.

The emboldened is the missing piece for you. When you understand that piece, you'd really crack the codes on who the real spirit guides are and you'd be connected to the spirit world and other simulations.

By the way, the humans who hide the information are actually direct offspring of the ET beings and in most cases are the ETs in human vehicles. The human body is just a vehicle. Any spirit with adequate understanding of its mechanics can pilot an avatar.

sonmvayina:

Where does Jesus come in ?
Somehow I believe the idea in your comment. God has placed both life and death, good and evil, light and darkness in front of us. It is now left for us to choose.
But in his infinite mercy and goodness he has given us the Torah to guide our choices in other for us to have an interesting and fulfilling life here on earth...
But ultimately at the end, the spirit returns to God and the body back to earth. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
I choose life so I am keeping the Torah just like he advised. You don't really need to be in a group or Cult to do so...

If you don't need to be in a group or cult then what business do i have talking to you about rules or Torah?