mrvitalis:

Oga stop this rubbish ...if south can't find an igbo man to support north keeps having it till we find an igbo man to support case closed

So na South go find Igbo man for you? Is it not your particular South East region that will find a sellable candidate and convince the Southerners in a particular political party (APC or PDP) to give him a unifying support so that he can emerge as the party's candidate and then become the president? Stop arguing like a toddler.

omoharry:
To the bolded ..Not that devil from hell ooo! I meant Akinwumi Adeshina (Former Minister of Agriculture)

I thought so too. I just wanted to point that out to dis-confuse readers.

gomojam:
Hmm. They are afraid of Tinubu but they love Atiku.

As if Atiku is not Fulani. I cannot understand that
manner reasoning.

Justmesagi:
Because you want to spite the Yorubas you will unwittingly sell your descendants into timeless slavery? Think!

The Yorubas are much more open to negotiation than the Fulanis who are authoritative. They will listen to your plight and try to address it.

The Yorubas are much more diplomatic than the Fulanis who are forceful. They will not "treat you in the language you understand" like Buhari threatened.

They are much more civilized than the Fulanis whose representative in the person of Buhari is finding grazing route in the 21st century. They will introduce developmental policies that will move the country forward irrespective of region.

I believe they have much more tendency to follow the rule of law and address the default in federal character created by this nepotic government.

They match the Fulanis in being cunning and are much more intelligent than the Fulanis. They will deal with the Fulani stealthily.

Don't be emotional. Think, think, think about your unborn child. Think about your people.

And an Igbo man lacks this capacity?

Or you think the Igbo won’t win with Yoruba support?

Is there no Igbo man with the capacity to do the things you enumerated?

Penguin2:


And an Igbo man lacks this capacity?

Or you think the Igbo won’t win with Yoruba support?

Is there no Igbo man with the capacity to do the things you enumerated?

Bros, Igbo man full ground remain for all these wey i mention, no lies. But as we dey now e be like say chance dey slim for igbos to presidency.

So as u can see, it's a comparison between Yoruba and Fulani.

Let's be honest bro.

ahaika23:
Op tries so well to keep his cool in response to replies, this opens a line of conversation and I like it.

I will speak for myself, as a Christian and southerner, let us be true to ourselves. We are divided along ethnic and religious lines clearly, the political divisions at some point intertwine that is why you have members of a political party voting for another party during elections so won’t be considering the political divide.

Truly, there was once a time that the Yorubas sold and preferred a nepa bill certificate holder to GEJ, throwing every caution to the wind. Make no mistake, this is not forgotten and the ijaws and entire southerners are still very bitter about it moreso given the full scale hardship spread across the people, it is a constant reminder.

Also, the igbos have shown a track record of hardwork, success and resilience, creating wealth from nothing, but strangely enough, they are the one tribe yet to lead the nation amongst other tribes yet. Then again, the Yorubas have been president not too long ago.

Every right thinking Nigerian with a conscience knows this truth that the igbos should lead the country, and among other things, save the disrepair that the Fulani leader has imparted in the nation. If you see this truth as unacceptable to you, then you are also a part of the problem we have.

There are igbos in APC, why are they only pushing Tinubu forward? Because the igbos there already know they can never be given the chance.

If I am faced with Tinubu and Atiku, assuming Atiku takes the ticket of PDP, in all honesty, I will emotionally wholeheartedly vote in Atiku. Because, Tinubu has no business being a president. His insistence on inflicting us the pain called Buhari is all the reason never to give him my vote. I have not talked of his kleptomaniac tendencies which necessitates his need for bullion vans.

If APC presents Femi Adesina and PDP presents Atiku, I will vote Femi without thinking twice. Clearly you can see I have nothing against a Yoruba who has a great track-record.

Thank you! So balance whitout emotional tantrum.

mrvitalis:

Lol south east vote is enough na don't u remember ? ...it took half of south west vote to elect buhari ...lmao

Hate should not blind you to making another mistake in 2023.

Yorubas have done theirs to plunge us into this sorry state we are today. Igbos should not do the same.

Penguin2:


Why didn’t Tinubu think about these things you enumerated in 2015 when he went alliance with Buhari, a known bigot with no educational qualification?

You guys were ready to vote for him even if he presented NEPA Bill as certificate.

Take a chill pill. In 2023 we are ready to vote even a northern slowpoke with Newspaper used to wrap Suya as certificate.

Maybe by 2031 we will now sit down and talk about Nigeria’s progress. But if we never learn our lesson, then the vicious cycle will continue.

... Treachery isn't wisdom, but yoeubas sticked to it ...
...
They voted a northern terrorist whom they know is a terrorist ,they sit beside to call out those who call out the great blood sucker buhari the enemy of the north ,just to use it for their selfish interest .
During benue massacre they report igbos to Fulani as the enemy of innocent and kind fulanis until Fulani came on them like the tivs ...this is cleverness not wisdom.
A wise tribe will fight for restructuring not voting a terror against his brothers

Justmesagi:
Thank you! So balance whitout emotional tantrum.

Thanks. You will notice those clamoring for Tinubu here are avoiding me clearly. Because they know the truth also.

Tinubu is a bad product, just like buhari is/was. If you claim to be patriotic, why try to sell him?

Justmesagi:
Hate should not blind you to making another mistake in 2023.

Yorubas have done theirs to plunge us into this sorry state we are today. Igbos should not do the same.

Then let yorubas support Igbo presidency

Justmesagi:
Bros, Igbo man full ground remain for all these wey i mention, no lies. But as we dey now e be like say chance dey slim for igbos to presidency.

So as u can see, it's a comparison between Yoruba and Fulani.

Let's be honest bro.

Chances are slim because the Yorubas are insisting on contesting.

Have you imagined what will happen if Tinubu should make a public statement and throw his weight behind Igbo presidency?

Then both APC and PDP would have Igbo men as candidates.

Would the chances still be slim?

mrvitalis:

Then let yorubas support Igbo presidency

You are so naive. Map out a plan and strategize to achieve it as the Yorubas did. Remember they were in the opposition before 2015. They even forgo a house of rep position to achieve their goal. It is a long run plan, not as impulsive as u are taking it.

The Fulanis will never trust igbos with power. Your years of labor in the PDP without you being considered worthy enough attests to this.

Your political leaders should form alliance and negotiate with the rest of the South. I know they will work something out.

This hatred for Tinubu is beclouding your sense of politics.

Justmesagi:
You are so naive. Map out a plan and strategize to achieve it as the Yorubas did. Remember they were in the opposition before 2015. They even forgo a house of rep position to achieve their goal. It is a long run plan, not as impulsive as u are taking it.

The Fulanis will never trust igbos with power. Your years of labor in the PDP without you being considered worthy enough attests to this.

Your political leaders and form allaince with negotiation with the rest of the South. I know they will work something out.

This hatred for Tinubu is beclouding your sense of politics.

Which plan did yorubas map out for obj ? Which plan was mapped out for Jonathan or by north for yaradua

Your leaders are talking another thing u are here trying to play who ? LMAO

Penguin2:


Chances are slim because the Yorubas are insisting on contesting.

Have you imagined what will happen if Tinubu should make a public statement and throw his weight behind Igbo presidency?

Then both APC and PDP would have Igbo men as candidates.

Would the chances still be slim?

Tinubu is not synonymous with Yoruba. He has a political structure and that structure is majorly comprised by the Yoruba. So he will consider their sentiments in other not to offend them.
As it is, I am not sure the majority Yoruba sentiment is favourably disposed to conceding the presidency to the Igbos that will then prompt Tinubu their leader to throw his weight behind an Igbo candidate.

Secondly, are your political leader reaching out to him? Are they keen on working with him? Are they ready to ally with him? No!

This is politics without emotion.

mrvitalis:

Which plan did yorubas map out for obj ? Which plan was mapped out for Jonathan or by north for yaradua

Your leaders are talking another thing u are here trying to play who ? LMAO

I am not speaking for Yoruba here, pls. Just trying to be logical.

What prompted the North to allow two Southerners to contest in PDP primary that birth OBJ as the PDP presidential candidate in 1999? Facts are there.

Justmesagi:
I am not speaking for Yoruba here, pls. Just trying to be logical.

What prompted the North to allow two Southerners to contest in PDP primary that birth OBJ as the PDP presidential candidate in 1999? Facts are there.

State your tribe let's start from there

Two of them is no no to me, forget party different,two of them are friends, when Fulani were killing in south west tinubu who claims in father of south west kept quiet without saying anything about d atrocities of fulani killer killing is pple, but it take d likes of good person of igboho who pple claim he is a illiterate to come an defend is pple, while Atiku have never condemn activities of fulani Herdsman, bandits and d ruga thing that buhari pushing on us, with this he will continue buhari legacy.

mrvitalis:

State your tribe let's start from there

Yoruba

So you cannot debate me without knowing my tribe?

Justmesagi:
Understand me pls. Who is your Igbo candidate? Under which party is he contesting? Definitely not PDP because Atiku and other Northerners have come out again. What have you done for the APC to claim the ticket? Would you be contesting under APGA?

These are my points sir

Oga abeg who was Yoruba candidate in apc in 2015 when you voted fulani man as against southern man then?

Benchilwell:
Two of them is no no to me, forget party different,two of them are friends, when Fulani were killing in south west tinubu who claims in father of south west kept quiet without saying anything about d atrocities of fulani killer killing is pple, but it take d likes of good person of igboho who pple claim he is a illiterate to come an defend is pple, while Atiku have never condemn activities of fulani Herdsman, bandits and d ruga thing that buhari pushing on us, with this he will continue buhari legacy.

Good point.

So would you prefer Atiku, a Fulani, continue from where Buhari stops in 2023 than a Yoruba man? This is my argument.

Nicetry:


Oga abeg who was Yoruba candidate in apc in 2015 when you voted fulani man as against southern man then?

Did Jonathan remember them as Southerners when he sidelined them in his government before then?

Justmesagi:
Good point.

So would you prefer Atiku, a Fulani, continue from where Buhari stops in 2023 than a Yoruba man? This is my argument.

any Yoruba is okey like d likes of osinbajo but not tinubu, because he will copy buhari legacy of wasteing our money for is treatment in London and again his old and not to strong because to rule a country is not easy

Justmesagi:
Did Jonathan remember them as Southerners when he sidelined them in his government before then?

So you voted fulani man who has a negative antecedent then to spite Jonathan to put the whole nation in disarray for your own selfishness

Benchilwell:
any Yoruba is okey like d likes of osinbajo but not tinubu, because he will copy buhari legacy of wasteing our money for is treatment in London and again his old and not to strong because to rule a country is not easy

My guy, you get sense abeg

Justmesagi:
Did Jonathan remember them as Southerners when he sidelined them in his government before then?

good point, Jonathan mess up in that one,

Justmesagi:
Good point.

So would you prefer Atiku, a Fulani, continue from where Buhari stops in 2023 than a Yoruba man? This is my argument.

For this question I will even vote a devil than a angel from afonja land just as you voted devil as against southern in 2015 for your own selfishness which una called building bridge and political sufferstication which till today you splash on igbo people's face for not knowing how to build bridge

Perhap, igbos will learn political sophistication and building bridge in 2023

Nicetry:


So you voted fulani man who has a negative antecedent then to spite Jonathan to put the whole nation in disarray for your own selfishness

We are talking about politics here not emotion. Tinubu is in APC and Jonathan is in PDP. Tinubu as an opposition and a strategist will be lurking for an opportunity to debase Jonathan politically in his region and nationwide. This was and is still expected of Tinubu as an opposing politician.

If Jonathan had carried the Southwest along like he did the Easterners and Northerners, Tinubu wouldn't have had an opportunity to give Buhari almost 55% of Southwest vote.

Or are you not aware that Jonathan had like 45% votes in the southwest despite his disdain for the region?

Justmesagi:
Yoruba

So you cannot debate me without knowing my tribe?

Because I told you your leaders are saying n acting different from you ..u say who said u are Yoruba

Tinubu has many Igbo boys even Joe igbokwe let him back one

mrvitalis:

Because I told you your leaders are saying n acting different from you ..u say who said u are Yoruba

Tinubu has many Igbo boys even Joe igbokwe let him back one

Sir, forget my tribe. Some Yorubas here even want to know because I told them the truth.

You mean Tinubu should just call Igbokwe one morning and tell him to start preparing for Aso rock? He should just tell Northerners and the rest of the party shareholders that Igbokwe must be their candidate? Stop talking like a kid. There are many considerations. Haha!

Nicetry:


For this question I will even vote a devil than a angel from afonja land just as you voted devil as against southern in 2015 for your own selfishness which una called building bridge and political sufferstication which till today you splash on igbo people's face for not knowing how to build bridge

Perhap, igbos will learn political sophistication and building bridge in 2023

Chai!

May you not lose on two fronts.

Justmesagi:
Sir, forget my tribe. Some Yorubas here even want to know because I told them the truth.

You mean Tinubu should just call Igbokwe one morning and tell him to start preparing for Aso rock? He should just tell Northerners and the rest of the party shareholders that Igbokwe must be their candidate? Stop talking like a kid. There are many considerations. Haha!

Was that not how obj , yaradua and Jonathan became president ?

Justmesagi:
Chai!

May you not lose on two fronts.

So supporting Yoruba person will make igbo people to win. How?