22jumpstreet:


Common you are loosing your mind...


How did you make those connection..

Hmmmm...

Bishopkingsley:


Am not losing my mind don't ever say that again it in the Bible that how God show to us

22jumpstreet:


This is your opinion...God gave us laws we can keep..

It is not hard...I am keeping them...I know you can.

How can you say come to Jesus when Jesus represents idol worship which is condemned in the laws...

Please, God has got nothing to do with Jesus.. he was created by Rome.. just as Stan Lee created Spiderman.

22jumpstreet:


It is not there at all...

Hmm. The Torah says something different

Bishopkingsley:


Can't you see that only one law that Adam could not keep it


Law of God is too powerful for human you can see example in Adam and eve life

Bishopkingsley:


. It in Bible
Torah spoke about the messiah which is the seed Jesus until you accept Jesus before you can understand the Torah because Torah spoke about Jesus

22jumpstreet:


Why did God create the tree if he did not want Adam to eat from it ?

22jumpstreet:


God never asked anybody to believe inthe Messiah or worship him..where did you get that idea from??

Bishopkingsley:


When God said Moses of Israel should make a bronze serpent and tell the children of Isreal to look at it and it will save them from the snake bite

Was it an idol

Bishopkingsley:


It is in the Bible

Bishopkingsley:


He told Adam to eat from every tree in the world apart from one particular tree

Because God gave Adam great authority and power so the instruction not to eat from that tree is what we call a regulator switch

Obeying God is what maintains your power and authority he gave you

So the only way Adam could continue to have that great power and authority was to keep obeying the commandment God gave him

22jumpstreet:


Yes it was idolatry and God punished them...

22jumpstreet:


Where....what book and verse ?

22jumpstreet:


Why did God create the tree??

Bishopkingsley:


Luke 9:35 ►
A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.”

New Living Translation
Then a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, my Chosen One. Listen to him.”



Hebrews 1:6 ►
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

New Living Translation
And when he brought his supreme Son into the world, God said, “Let all of God’s angels worship him.”


Philippians 2:10 ►
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

New Living Translation
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,


Matthew 2:11 (ESV)
11 And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.

Matthew 14:33 (ESV)
33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

Matthew 28:8–9 (ESV)
8 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

Matthew 28:9 (ESV)
9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

Bishopkingsley:


You don't know Torah I just used that place to test your knowledge

How can you say it idolatry when it was God who commanded Moses to do it

Bishopkingsley:


How many times will I tell you that it was created to help Adam obey the instructions of God in order to be able to continue to maintain the power and authority God gave him

Bishopkingsley:


Luke 9:35 ►
A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.”

New Living Translation
Then a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, my Chosen One. Listen to him.”



Hebrews 1:6 ►
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

New Living Translation
And when he brought his supreme Son into the world, God said, “Let all of God’s angels worship him.”


Philippians 2:10 ►
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

New Living Translation
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,


Matthew 2:11 (ESV)
11 And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.

Matthew 14:33 (ESV)
33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

Matthew 28:8–9 (ESV)
8 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

Matthew 28:9 (ESV)
9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

22jumpstreet:


It does not work that way. You are using the new testament to prove the new testament...

Show me the prophet God told in the Hebrew Bible...

I want old testament quotes...

22jumpstreet:


For the last time...it was NOT God......it was the same serpent in the garden of Eden....by the name of Ninghiszida

22jumpstreet:
Torah is God's laws...the Messiah is a human king coming to rule the jews like Solomon and David

Never a demi God.....coming to die for sin. The Torah (gods laws forbids human sacrifice)

Bishopkingsley:
Jesus is God not a demi God

Torah shows where God said the seed of the woman will kill Satan and Satan will equally kill the seed (offspring)

Read the Torah to see where God was showing what Jesus would do to Satan and Satan will do to Jesus

Bishopkingsley:


Isaiah 7:14 ►
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

New Living Translation
All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means ‘God is with us’).

Isaiah 9:6 ►
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

New Living Translation
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called:
Wonderful
Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.



However, Daniel 7 says that all peoples and nations would “serve”and worship this “son of man”

Daniel 7:27 ►
Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’

New Living Translation
Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.”

22jumpstreet:


We are going round in circles....I have explained all these for you before...if you have not still seen it then I guess I will have to leave you....but note that I have warned you against worshipping an idol. It is against God's commandments.

Peace...

22jumpstreet:


Lol..and you believe without questioning it. A voice came from the cloud indeed.....

Who heard it?

Bishopkingsley:


I used because of you and opened a thread to show you how Torah spoke about Jesus the messiah yet you refuse to believe in the son of God

At least you won't tell God that no one spoke to you about the savior of the world

The whole Torah spoke about Jesus yet you refuse to believe in Jesus

The ball is in your hands

22jumpstreet:


Torah is God's laws..from Genesis to deuteronomy..

Show me how you manage to figure out it us about somebody that never existed, that the romans catholic invented...

Jesus was created by the Roman Catholic...he has nothing to do with God...

22jumpstreet:
Torah is God's laws..from Genesis to deuteronomy..

22jumpstreet:
Show me how you manage to figure out it us about somebody that never existed, that the romans catholic invented...

22jumpstreet:
Jesus was created by the Roman Catholic...

22jumpstreet:
... he has nothing to do with God...

22jumpstreet:
[s]We are going round in circles....I have explained all these for you before...if you have not still seen it then I guess I will have to leave you....but note that I have warned you against worshipping an idol. It is against God's commandments.

Peace...[/s]

Bishopkingsley:


It is not

You are not surposed to hinder others from knowing the truth just because you have known your own truth

Nothing in God is over flogged topic

Because his revelation keeps on shining brighter and more brighter