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Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 3:13pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
boyfrank: The difference between the claims of Benin people and the claims of others is the fact that eyewitness records back Benin claims. In a sane world that should count for something... Also it is the people of the land whom are claiming their Benin bloodline, not the other way around ! The way people like you talk, it seems you believe it was a troll who created bight of Benin and Benin Republic and Benin bronze... Stop being jealous ! Accept reality even if you don't like it !!! |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 3:20pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41: Is that one of the major reasons why ships refuse to use the ports in the South South? |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by boyfrank: 6:12pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41: The earlier u bininphiles wake up and the coffee, the better. That's how some of ur ilks started spreading falsehoods that enugu ezike was founded by one ur ubiquitous benin Prince, when we debunked it, they started to sound just like ur pathetic self. The beni empire is dead and gone. stop living in time past, it has been dead for over a 100 years and there is no resurrection whatsoever. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 6:47pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
boyfrank: When someone is filled with hate and envy like you, it is best to ignore that person. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by sageb: 7:45pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Efewestern: Edwin clark is Ijaw but some of his people speak urhobo language. I realize the interrelatedness of Urbohos and Ijaws when I took a shuttle from otuvwodo in Ughelli to kiagbodo. Secondly, Ughelli is very close to patani, an Ijaw LGA. Even in Bayelsa, there are Urhobo and Isoko speaking communities in Sagbama. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Lionnation: 7:58pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Whatever rocks their boats is not anybody's businesses, does it matter if ijaws are urobos or urobos are ijaws if they agree |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 8:11pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Lionnation:The thing is "they" do not agree, some ijo trolls and their associates are trying to push that revisionist narrative. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Lionnation: 8:18pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:then let the urobo fight the narrative themselves, I am yet to see one |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 8:27pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Lionnation:Let the Urhobos clame ijaw themselves is what you should be saying. I only brought out facts which showed the ijo claim is false. I live in a world in which facts matter. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Lionnation: 8:29pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:OK so let the urobos claim ijaw na, or is their no single urobo person in politics section or are they all in romance section |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by boyfrank: 8:52pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41: What's there to envy about benin, grow some sense, Enugu is far better than benin in all aspects of life. I get am b4 no be property. Rome colonised Britain and Germany but y can't compare them today. Egypt was civilised thousands of years b4 America. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by valirex: 9:24pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
boyfrank: Ọzuọ, like your father sounds abi? |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Malawian(m): 9:40pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
michelz:Ever since their Niger-Delta Republic failed with the Advent of Ibom Republic, Ijaw has gone nuclear, claiming other people, their lands and their history ear and dear. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Malawian(m): 9:49pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Dartilo:Ordinary Agbor was never under Benin, let alone Onitsha. Even Benin Oba told the Portuguese that Nri Kingdom in the east was the greatest kingdom around there. 1 Like |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 9:59pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Malawian:Agbor was part of Benin, even the current Agbor monarch owes his ascension to the fatherly role of the Oba of Benin. Onitsha was also part of Benin. The Oba of Benin never told any Portuguese about NRI village. You seem to be learning how to lie like a yoruba. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Malawian(m): 10:01pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:Agbor that invaded Benin kindom and occupied Benin Kingdom for years is the same people that were supposedly "under Benin" right? |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 10:02pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Malawian:Do you care to prove your claim ? At this stage, you are just an other crazy nairalander spewing complete rubbish. I repeat: Agbor was part of Benin. Below is the Obi of Agbor in the 1930's.
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Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Efewestern: 10:21pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
sageb: Yes, that is why I'm insisting we don't narrow or limit our ancestral linkage to just one ethnic group. It beats common sense and logic. In some Ijaw kingdoms, a king cannot be crowned if his mother isn't Urhobo. What does this tells you? It means the Ijaws have always shared great ancestral connection with the Urhobos. PS; We have several urhobo communities in Patani, but that should be a topic for another day. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 10:24pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Most ijaw "kingdoms" were created recently by state governments. I hate when fools think they know something. These are not historical nor ancestral kingdoms, these are just new creations done by politicians. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by michelz: 10:31pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:Can you present any evidence that Onitsha and Agbor were under Benin at some point? |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 10:33pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
michelz:Apart from the picture of the Obi of Agbor in the 1930's, you also have precolonial maps and oral stories. Once again: Obi of Agbor in the 1930's
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Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by iamuyiekpen(m): 10:35pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Malawian:exactly my point. They are very useless ethnic group. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Malawian(m): 10:36pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:It is not a claim. I have read that history from Benin dailies while schooling in Edo state. There was a time Agbor invaded and Occupied Benin Kingdom. Go and ask your Oba, he will know that history. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 10:38pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Malawian: Please stop confusing your hallucinations caused by your generator fumes with reality. Agbor was a part of Benin, a part of Benin doesn't invade Benin. In other words Agbor is Benin ! Also you need to learn English and especially the word "claim", you also need to learn some logics.
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Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Malawian(m): 10:45pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:Agbor invaded and occupied Benin kingdom.in that History I read in your Benin newspaper,it was actually noted as "Igbo" not Agbor,but I know it was Agbor in particular because they were the ones the Benin were always at war with. This happened during one of those wars with Agbor and the exact terminology they used in that Article was "Counter-attack". |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by michelz: 10:47pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:I don't see how the pic you posted is an evidence that Agbor was under Benin. Maybe you can kindly point it out to me. As for the pre colonial map, can you post it here for all to see? The oral accounts wouldn't pass for any serious evidence, would it? |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 10:52pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Malawian:Let us go through the logics of what you are saying: 1) your claim: a Benin newspaper reported that Agbor invaded Benin 2) your claim: the name used was Igbo, not agbor. Analysing the logics of your statements: 1) If Agbor (which is a part of Benin) invaded Benin (whatever sense this makes) and the newspaper reported it, wouldn't that mean that it happened recently ? Or does Benin have newspapers which are several hundred years old ? 2) now your taking of liberty to change "Igbo" to "agbor" looks like a desperate move and it is completely silly. 3) I think you are confusing the Nigerian civil war with something else. So if you read anything of an Igbo invasion in a news paper then it is referring to the biafrans, not Agbor. 4) you have the mind of a toddler. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 10:53pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
michelz: So the Obi of Agbor having the same prevolonial uniform as the Oba of Benin and his other vassals means nothing ? The one sector that hardly gets corrupted is the monarchy. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2 Also, the current Obi of Agbor ascended the throne of his father thanks to the intervention of the Oba of Benin.
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Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Malawian(m): 10:57pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:1. Agbor at no time was ever under Benin. 2. I know it was Agbor for the singular fact that only Agbor was enough to put Benin under control. 3. I am not talking about the Civil War. Benin were too cowardly to fight during the civil war, let alone attack Igbos to warrant a counter attack from Igbos (Agbor in this case). 4. Thanks. Even Christ said the Kingdom of God belongs to Children. Meanwhile, go and ask your Oba. Agbor occupied Benin Kingdom militarily in the past and this my brother is a true history. |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by ariesbull: 10:57pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:benin were running and that was why they built moats to surround true cities.... The Agbor invaded them 1 Like |
Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by Nobody: 11:01pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
I have spoken more than enough to you people, clearly you are not very smart. You keep repeating your claims over and over and you keep showing your bigotry. Look, I don't do trolling, I'm a real life mathematician and also a teacher. I will educate you, but I won't join in trolling. So stop wasting my time. To conclude with: Agbor is a part of Benin.
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Re: Urhobo Is Ijaw People According To Ijaw by michelz: 11:12pm On Nov 21, 2021 |
Truthvalue41:Yes, it doesn't mean much that he wore an outfit similar to that of an Oba of Benin. It could be that he simply copied the Oba's mode of dressing and nothing more. Cultures copy from one another; so it is not strange. Even the present Oba, I bet, has one or two elements in his regalia that he borrowed from somewhere else. It doesn't mean that he is not autonomous. As per your last statement, honestly, that doesn't count, even slightly. I was hoping for, maybe, a documented account from a neutral source of how Agbor and Onitsha were once under the sovereignity of Benin. How about that map you mentioned? |
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