raumdeuter:


Achievements like what? Rashford and Hazard are both attackers, yet Rashford has more output than Hazard despite starting as a secondary school boy while Hazard was a 30M marquee buy

That only achievement Hazard can claim over Rashford is twerking in public places which is mostly considered a misdemeanor

Hazard wey reach Madrid, now na broom dem dey take pursue am

raumdeuter:


Achievements like what? Rashford and Hazard are both attackers, yet Rashford has more output than Hazard despite starting as a secondary school boy while Hazard was a 30M marquee buy

That only achievement Hazard can claim over Rashford is twerking in public places which is mostly considered a misdemeanor

Hazard wey reach Madrid, now na broom dem dey take pursue am

afrodoc2:

The man is gone so I don’t think any of the nasty insults going back n forth is necessary.

He came as a club legend and one of the most popular players in our recent history but leaves with a very tarnished reputation and his legendary status in jeopardy in many people’s eyes.

Some promotions or appointments are poisoned chalices. Count no man lucky until the end is known.

Jodera:
Let's forget hazard of Madrid, at least we all agree he's a flop at Madrid.

Hazard of Chelsea is one of the most feared in EPL. I know you'll say EPL pfa winner is polling booth award, but no matter how you wanna put it, most winners are more deserving of it and fans knows that.

Football is more than stats, na why we dey watch match instead of just following flashscore, livescore or sofascore.
Saka have 10goals 7 assist in 71 appearances while Pepe have 15 goals 8 assists in 67 appearances but if you say let Pepe start over Saka near arsenal fans, you fit receive 2by2 plank for your head before you complete the statement sef

raumdeuter:


If you are doing good, there is a Stat to show it. Hazard is an attacker like Rashford and falls flat when we bring the goal scoring stat. If we cannot rate Hazard by his scoring stat then what should we rate him by?

Pepe and Saka imagine this type of comparison? Do we need to tell a football follower that Saka played in different positions even as a left back while Pepe has always been a wing forward.

So whats next lets compare Hazard to Carvajal right or to Lcas Vasquez

hensben:
When it comes to stat, is it only goals they rate, why not check other ability/stats that help the team. Talk like an adult that you are Abeg. If it’s only goal why do whoscored and the rest bother with other stats like dribbling, number chance created and the rest to buttress a point.

Illimitable:


I don’t think Expert17 is wrong in Ole’s assessment as a player. He wasn’t good enough to start many of the games in that great team. Ole was a substitute player at best. His legendary status came in one moment of toe-poking in a final

raumdeuter:


The purpose of an attacker is to score or create goals whether he does it by dribbling passing running or pushing opponents

That Hazard likes to dribble like St Alan Maxim, Wilfred Zaha, Pius Ikedia, Januzaj does not make him superior to players who don't

CR7 does not dribble a lot but will you say those twerkers are better than him?

Jodera:
Let's forget hazard of Madrid, at least we all agree he's a flop at Madrid.

Hazard of Chelsea is one of the most feared in EPL. I know you'll say EPL pfa winner is polling booth award, but no matter how you wanna put it, most winners are more deserving of it and fans knows that.

Football is more than stats, na why we dey watch match instead of just following flashscore, livescore or sofascore.
Saka have 10goals 7 assist in 71 appearances while Pepe have 15 goals 8 assists in 67 appearances but if you say let Pepe start over Saka near arsenal fans, you fit receive 2by2 plank for your head before you complete the statement sef

hensben:
I am asking you is it only goals whoscored and the rest rate as stat for attackers. Messi is a better footballer than Ronaldo because he has other quality aside scoring like playmaking which is another statical attribute of an attacker. If you watch football with your eyes nobody will rate those players you mentioned near hazard, we are talking of a player that influences play for his team that led to success.

Illimitable:


I don’t think Expert17 is wrong in Ole’s assessment as a player. He wasn’t good enough to start many of the games in that great team. Ole was a substitute player at best. His legendary status came in one moment of toe-poking in a final.

In 20 years time, Liverpool fans would be singing Divock Origi’s name as a legend because he came in as a substitute in a Champions League final to score an important goal for Klopp, yet we hardly ever see Origi in a Liverpool shirt start a game.

Ole scored 92 PL goals in 10 seasons, that’s hardly a legendary achievement.

raumdeuter:


Mesi will show his goals and assists, Messi will not show his dribbling, dancing and twerking stats

Expert17:
Confirm polling booth award.

I still don't know how De Bruyne won it last season ahead of Bruno, Salah and Kane.

hensben:
Whoscored will show all the statistical aspect of an attacker. Messi will show his highlight on YouTube; goals, assist, dribbling, passes and runs. This is why YouTube show every aspect of a player, not just goals.

raumdeuter:


Achievements like what? Rashford and Hazard are both attackers, yet Rashford has more output than Hazard despite starting as a secondary school boy while Hazard was a 30M marquee buy

That only achievement Hazard can claim over Rashford is twerking in public places which is mostly considered a misdemeanor

Hazard wey reach Madrid, now na broom dem dey take pursue am

raumdeuter:


If Messi has all these runs dribbles everything without goals and assists to show, he would be like Hidden Hazard

Joezinho:


For a club like united to see ole Gollum as a legend is shocking. We all know why he's called a legend Sha .

"Certificate of long term service "

hensben:
Hazard has goals and assist but no on Messi’s level but above those players you mentioned.

Illimitable:


The word legend has been abused. Bayern Munich weren’t going into that final thinking about the damage Ole might cause them. He was never in their plans of the players to shadow.

That could have contributed to the reason why he scored that goal. No one paid him no mind. He was no existential threat to Ossei-Kuffour. Pundits have also erased Ted Sheringham’s contribution out of that story. Yet it was Ted that scored the equalizer and also assisted the Ole goal with a flick of his head.

If you go on the streets of the red half of Manchester today and ask any kid, they would tell you how legendary Ole is but they might not even know who Ted is. That’s what smiling and being a decent human being can get you in England. A player that smiles gets more media coverage than the one that doesn’t regardless of their contribution on the pitch.

Ole’s PR machine is more legendary than the player.

raumdeuter:


How is it above Rashfords fr example despite Rashford starting his career as a minor while Hazard was a big money signing in the EPL

Joezinho:



Can we put Ole Gollum and George best on the same level? Or Bobby Charlton? Or Rooney? What exactly did the Gollum do for the club that the likes of Chicharito, Park ,Berbatov, RVP , O'Shea and co didn't do?

He scored in a UCL final. Beletti did it.

Jerzy dudek was the hero when Liverpool won it.

The Gollum spent 11 years at the club. O'Shea spent 11 years at man utd and played more games. Does that make O'Shea a club legend?

He won the 99 UCL for united because he was at the right place . Lest not forget that sherringham also got us the equalizer. Beletti came off the bench too to help Barcelona to a 2-1 UCL victory.. Does that make Beletti a Barca legend. My late dad loved Ole Gollum and he was a staunch shekpite.. Why? Because of the way he love smiling.

Ole was a good player but the term "United legend" is a very exclusive club and I just don't think Ole is good enough to get in that group..

Illimitable:


I don’t think Expert17 is wrong in Ole’s assessment as a player. He wasn’t good enough to start many of the games in that great team. Ole was a substitute player at best. His legendary status came in one moment of toe-poking in a final.

In 20 years time, Liverpool fans would be singing Divock Origi’s name as a legend because he came in as a substitute in a Champions League final to score an important goal for Klopp, yet we hardly ever see Origi in a Liverpool shirt start a game.

Ole scored 92 PL goals in 10 seasons, that’s hardly a legendary achievement.

Illimitable:


Ole cannot clean Rooney’s boot never mind sharing the legendary status with Rooney.

Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, George Best, Ryan Giggs, etc are the legends. Ole isn’t one of them but English people are weird for a reason.

They are the only group of people I know who would focus on irrelevant factors/indices other than the primary objective.

If you are a footballer who runs a lot(despite contributing nothing to the team), English people would love you for the endeavor. If you smile a lot too, you would get their love.

This is why the 3 Lions haven’t won a spoon in 55 years. Southgate continues to fail as a manager and he just got another contract signed this morning, there are rumors he might even get a knighthood and he has won nothing.

In any other football country, Southgate would be sacked. The main objective in other places is to win a trophy, other factors rarely matter to them but the reverse is the case in England.

Joezinho:
Someone said the Gollum scored way more and won more than Chicarito. . This is the dumbest thing i have ever read today.

Chica scored 59 EPL goals in 4 seasons and Ole scored 92 EPL goals in 11 seasons and it's 'way more'?

Isn't winning a collective team effort?

Wanbissaka:
Make person help me with the least let me see something I eat I beg.
0129630019. Union bank.

timay:


May be he counted the number of smiles too.

slimghost:


I was wondering if it’s not the same Ole I watched?. Good player but couldn’t force his way into the team multiple seasons albeit his injuries played some part in that.
Take away that goal in 1999 and his legendary status would be up for debates.

timay:


May be he counted the number of smiles too.

hensben:
I mean as a player he is above all those players you mentioned. 30 million is a big money to you. Lol