cbmfi:

Good afternoon house. I finally joined nairaland because of this thread. I have been here as a guest for a while and I have learnt so much. Thank you all for the useful contributions and insights. God bless you.

I’m thinking of starting my project by January and see what I can achieve by the end of next year. I have some questions though:

Can 5 million raise a 4 bedroom bungalow from foundation to roofing? Please bear in mind that the land was previously a fish pond but that has been discontinued for over 5 years but the pond area is still open and wasn’t filled.

Also gurus in the house recommend a good hand for house plan. Its a 30x120 half plot, I want a sexy (lol) 4 bedroom plan.

NB: if you’re a drawer, please don’t contact me. I’ll only reach persons referred to me by the people I consider as well versed on the thread. Thank you.

The pond might be an excellent opportunity for a subterranean floor.

I certainly won’t fill it in and will use it as a garage or man cave.

Good luck on your project.

Aforxzy:
The effectiveness of a beam is the function of its span and depth. This means that the longer the span, the deeper the depth.

A beam whether rectangular or flanged needs adequate depth against deflection. When you put a beam on a slab of say 150mm thick, the beam does not have enough depth and will deflect. Also the reinforcements required for such beam if design will be much as againt those provided by the iron bender.
So invariably the hidden beam does not prevent deflection of the slab.

The right thing is to reduce the spacing of the reinforcement or increase depth of the slab.

I'm sorry, I still don't understand.

First off; I don't know why it is called "hidden". It is not hidden. It is a beam. As I understand as experienced with my builds, you beam with the beams supported by the blocks and columns and then you pour your slab (decking) with your slab supported on the beams. Are you saying this is a wrong practice? Please educate more. Are we to pour the slab directly on top of the block work? Or do you mean something else?

Grandstronics21:

The one priced @335k is THERMOCOOL and the large.
But my brother, if I show you some crazy price differences in this stuff from 2018 till date, you go open mouth.
You'll see something of 100k today, if you go back to order for a new stock next week, you fit see crazy price increase.
Hisense 1hp AC that was not up to 80k in 2019, it is now 133k general price (individual gives different prices though).
And things are increasing, not coming down.
This country is not helping matter at all.
This MAXI below (4 burners + 2 hotplates) - total 6face is over 250k.
I just hope this is not the one you talked about, if na this one, this country is gone.
LOL.

It's the wood design type.
Yes, total of 6 plates.

The wooden front is more expensive than this.

Dollar is coming down, yet prices of items going up.

Before they blamed dollar rate, what should be blamed now?

somehow:


It's the wood design type.
Yes, total of 6 plates.

The wooden front is more expensive than this.

Dollar is coming down, yet prices of items still going up.

Before they blamed dollar rate, what should be blamed now?

demurrage and delays at the wharf is a problem. The time it takes to clear goods now is longer due to congestion.

Everything we see now is after effects of lockdown imposed during the height of COVID-19.

Please know that I don't hold brief for anyone oh

michlins:
demurrage and delays at the wharf is a problem. The time it takes to clear goods now is longer due to congestion.

Everything we see now is after effects of lockdown imposed during the height of COVID-19.

Please know that I don't hold brief for anyone oh

Except this is what is going on everywhere in the world.

Imas007:


Good day Horlardorjah, Thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate your positive feedback and God Bless.

This is a detailed architectural floor plan on a 50by100fit plot which comprises of a 3bed room flat in the front with an ante room and a laundry, all rooms ensuit and a bed seater attached behind from my Engineer. I would appreciate any constructive criticism, any feedback that would help me out.

Why is there no access from the Living room to the dinning room?

I will open up the wall from the living room to dinning room

EgunMogaji2:


Certainly won’t be cheaper but I’m specific about what I want. What you’re showing is what I’ve been seeing at stores in Nigeria. I saw what I wanted on a Ghana show.

Thanks.

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somehow:


Except this is what is going on everywhere in the world.

yes it is. While Nigeria own hurts differently is because we have a very low purchasing power. While cost of goods and services are increasing, the minimum wage has remained the same and unemployment rates is still very high.

While all are contributing factors, don't rule out Nigerians are greedy

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michlins:
May we never risk our project because of paucity of funds

The building self get as E be.
Look at pipes everywhere.

cbmfi:

Good afternoon house. I finally joined nairaland because of this thread. I have been here as a guest for a while and I have learnt so much. Thank you all for the useful contributions and insights. God bless you.

I’m thinking of starting my project by January and see what I can achieve by the end of next year. I have some questions though:

Can 5 million raise a 4 bedroom bungalow from foundation to roofing? Please bear in mind that the land was previously a fish pond but that has been discontinued for over 5 years but the pond area is still open and wasn’t filled.

Also gurus in the house recommend a good hand for house plan. Its a 30x120 half plot, I want a sexy (lol) 4 bedroom plan.

NB: if you’re a drawer, please don’t contact me. I’ll only reach persons referred to me by the people I consider as well versed on the thread. Thank you.

Hmm.
The first issue requires a serious tackling method.
You will need to backfill for easy setting out.
Note: the foundation must go beyond the backfilling so as to make the building balance structurally.
I hope the land isn't water logged.

You can consult us for your Architectural plan.

EgunMogaji2:


The pond might be an excellent opportunity for a subterranean floor.

I certainly won’t fill it in and will use it as a garage or man cave.

Good luck on your project.

Good idea sir.
Na money o.

Its not exactly a dry land. Thanks for your advice.

uncleteeh:

Hmm.
The first issue requires a serious tackling method.
You will need to backfill for easy setting out.
Note: the foundation must go beyond the backfilling so as to make the building balance structurally.
I hope the land isn't water logged.

You can consult us for your Architectural plan.

I’ll google subterranean floor to see if it’s something I’ll like to implement. Shey it’s not expensive sha

Thanks.

EgunMogaji2:


The pond might be an excellent opportunity for a subterranean floor.

I certainly won’t fill it in and will use it as a garage or man cave.

Good luck on your project.

GoodFaith:


Why is there no access from the Living room to the dinning room?

I will open up the wall from the living room to dinning room

There was,I believe it's an error from the designer misrepresenting it during corrections he made

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My Oga, I was actually looking forward to your input on how far 5M would go. I’m hoping it will take me to roofing, do you think it will?

EgunMogaji2:


The pond might be an excellent opportunity for a subterranean floor.

I certainly won’t fill it in and will use it as a garage or man cave.

Good luck on your project.

michlins:
yes it is. While Nigeria own hurts differently is because we have a very low purchasing power. While cost of goods and services are increasing, the minimum wage has remained the same and unemployment rates is still very high.
While all are contributing factors, don't rule out Nigerians are greedy

Prices won’t adjust overnight even if dollars is a little lower against the Naira now. It takes between 4-6 months for goods to arrive from warehouse in China to Warehouse in Nigeria.
From experience, I will explain how Nigeria market reacts to exchange rate.

Let’s say an importer imports an AC at the cost of #450k each in January when dollar was $1-$450.
Then in July dollar went up up to #550. What big wholesalers do is they buy up all the stock from the importers. ( in fact, importers do not actually keep those stocks, they distribute them to wholesalers)
Now the importer has sold or distributed all his AC stock at #450k. But he needs to somehow come up with #550k to order for new stock that would arrive in 4-6months. Therefore the new stock that would arrive in November would be sold or distributed at #550k.
The wholesalers know this. Remember those stock they got for #450k ? They would never sell them for less than #550k due to obvious reason. The reason is because when they return to the importers in November, they would be a new price.
Comes November, dollar changes to #530. Consumers would assume an importer would adjust his price to sell an item that was imported at #550k for #530 at a #20 loss!
No, expect to buy it for #580k even though dollar is a little less at the moment.

You see that wholesalers that got it for #450k? He too is sold out at maybe #500k, and made #50k profit which he used to take care of himself and family and rent. The importer gave him a grace of 3months to pay up for goods collected. So he is fine with doing some turnovers with money.
Now he needs to restock. He goes to the importer, this time with cash, which is #450k being all he has left from the initial business . To his surprise, the same AC is now #580k.
Where would he get the difference?

Meanwhile, consumers are waiting for him with hope of reduced dollar which would translate to reduced price. He dare not say otherwise, if not he is greedy.

After over a year consistently on this thread, i will be patronising a vendor from this thread... I have always been avoiding that due to the numerous, not too palatable issues in the past but i will buy wood and other accessories worth a million naira from hslbroker2....
He has promise to do POD... I have promise to pay him IMMEDIATELY.... My carpenter and Engr will received the truck, count the wood, ensure it's okay and they will signal me to pay... Hslbroker2 has ASSURED me that what he's bringing will be of utmost quality, not MIX, exact specification and i will be happy with it... I will come here to give feedback... If this goes through, then i will consider this thread for my window/door/plumbing etc... It's my little way of saying, Thank you to the thread and the MEN here, i always receive valuable info.

cbmfi:

Good afternoon house. I finally joined nairaland because of this thread. I have been here as a guest for a while and I have learnt so much. Thank you all for the useful contributions and insights. God bless you.

I’m thinking of starting my project by January and see what I can achieve by the end of next year. I have some questions though:

Can 5 million raise a 4 bedroom bungalow from foundation to roofing? Please bear in mind that the land was previously a fish pond but that has been discontinued for over 5 years but the pond area is still open and wasn’t filled.

Also gurus in the house recommend a good hand for house plan. Its a 30x120 half plot, I want a sexy (lol) 4 bedroom plan.

NB: if you’re a drawer, please don’t contact me. I’ll only reach persons referred to me by the people I consider as well versed on the thread. Thank you.

I have a plan you can consider. I can send it to you for free and; if it meets your taste(sexy). You can consider it. It's the 3D only.

sonnie10:

Prices won’t adjust overnight even if dollars is a little lower against the Naira now. It takes between 4-6 months for goods to arrive from warehouse in China to Warehouse in Nigeria.
From experience, I will explain how Nigeria market reacts to exchange rate.

Let’s say an importer imports an AC at the cost of #450k each in January when dollar was $1-$450.
Then in July dollar went up up to #550. What big wholesalers do is they buy up all the stock from the importers. ( in fact, importers do not actually keep those stocks, they distribute them to wholesalers)
Now the importer has sold or distributed all his AC stock at #450k. But he needs to come up with #550k to order for new stock that would arrive in 4-6months. Therefore the new stock that would arrive in November would be sold or distributed at #550k.
The wholesalers know this. Remember those stock they got for #450k ? They would never sell them for less than #550k due to obvious reason. The reason is because when they return to the importers in November, they would be a new price.
Comes November, dollar changes to #530. Consumers would assume an importer would adjust his price to sell an item that was imported at #550k for #530 at a #20 loss!
No, expect to buy it for #580k even though dollar is a little less at the moment.

You see that wholesalers that got it for #450k? He too is sold out at maybe #500k, and made #50k profit which he used to take care of himself and family and rent. They importer gave him a grace of 3months to pay up for goods collected. So he is fine with doing some turnovers with money.
Now he needs to restock. He goes to the importer, this time with cash, which is #450k being all he has left from the initial business . To his surprise, the same AC is now #580k.
Where would he get the difference?

Meanwhile, consumers are waiting for him with hope of reduced dollar which would translate to reduced price. He dare not say otherwise, if not he is greedy.

succinctly put. You can't explain it better at all

Okay please I’d love to see it. I’ll inbox you a number to put it via WhatsApp. Thanks a lot.

Timsilver:


I have a plan you can consider. I can send it to you for free and; if it meets your taste(sexy). You can consider it. It's the 3D only.

dapotemi:
After over a year consistently on this thread, i will be patronising a vendor from this thread... I have always been avoiding that due to the numerous, not too palatable issues in the past but i will buy wood and other accessories worth a million naira from hslbroker2....
He has promise to do POD... I have promise to pay him IMMEDIATELY.... My carpenter and Engr will received the truck, count the wood, ensure it's okay and they will signal me to pay... Hslbroker2 has ASSURED me that what he's bringing will be of utmost quality, not MIX, exact specification and i will be happy with it... I will come here to give feedback... If this goes through, then i will consider this thread for my window/door/plumbing etc... It's my little way of saying, Thank you to the thread and the MEN here, i always receive valuable info.

We pray it go well o
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babadots:


I thought as much. Thank you, anyhow.

But do you per chance know the guys who installed the rails?.............like meeting them on site or having their contacts?

no sir

dapotemi:
After over a year consistently on this thread, i will be patronising a vendor from this thread... I have always been avoiding that due to the numerous, not too palatable issues in the past but i will buy wood and other accessories worth a million naira from hslbroker2....
He has promise to do POD... I have promise to pay him IMMEDIATELY.... My carpenter and Engr will received the truck, count the wood, ensure it's okay and they will signal me to pay... Hslbroker2 has ASSURED me that what he's bringing will be of utmost quality, not MIX, exact specification and i will be happy with it... I will come here to give feedback... If this goes through, then i will consider this thread for my window/door/plumbing etc... It's my little way of saying, Thank you to the thread and the MEN here, i always receive valuable info.

God will provide for you sir. To build these days takes the Grace of God

On going Legrand DB final sub circuit termination

Aforxzy:
I was on a site yesterday to resolve a structural issue and the iron bender suggested putting a hidden beam on the slab. This I have noticed on alot of sites even some owners do it.

I told him no and he said he knew I won't accept he goes along with it.

The issues of hidden beam on a slab is a bad practice and is fast becoming a norm. It makes no sense and has no technical or structural backing.

Hidden beam on floor slabs are just imaginary strength enhancement concept.
The use of hidden beam are not beneficial to the behavior of slab. The principle that deflection of solid slab obeys still remains constant, “Depth”

The longer the slab span, the deeper the beam should be.

Muyi002:


Eventually I spent more than that but not too much sha.

8,700 difference is fair.

I might just as well go for this. Thank you for the info.

Charisdesigns:


Last month someone approached us for a hotel structural design with columns span of 7.8m at all sides and going to 4 floors.

After our calculations, we arrive at a beam depth of 750mm with y20 reinforcements.

It was after the whole process that the person told us that, they want to use the design for approval but their intent is to use secret beam (not the one we designed with a beam drop of 750mm) for the entire project, and I almost jump out of my skin upon hearing that. He said they have seen so many beamless slabs and they are still standing.

We have to take out time to school them on different types of slabs (solid,flat,ribbed,waffle) and how it has its own design/construction principles and how that flat slab is not a function of secret beams(that’s actually disastrous)

The problem is that most of all this people are truly not in the know (In this case, they were obviously mistaken solid slab for flat slab(beamless slab) and as such they believe it is hidden beam that will hold their 7.8m span slab.

I wrote this recently about secret beam / a span of 7.8m

n3xt:
Drywall Gypsum Board

I’m looking for good deal on drywall gypsum board. Anyone offering 8,000 - 8,500 per board (3m x 12mm) can please hit me up.

Ready to pickup 100 boards this morning.

Thanks.

Pop board ? 1.2 x 3 m , 12mm thickness ?

I am ready to pickup a 1000 with profiles if price is good . Keep me posted abeg

dapotemi:
After over a year consistently on this thread, i will be patronising a vendor from this thread... I have always been avoiding that due to the numerous, not too palatable issues in the past but i will buy wood and other accessories worth a million naira from hslbroker2....
He has promise to do POD... I have promise to pay him IMMEDIATELY.... My carpenter and Engr will received the truck, count the wood, ensure it's okay and they will signal me to pay... Hslbroker2 has ASSURED me that what he's bringing will be of utmost quality, not MIX, exact specification and i will be happy with it... I will come here to give feedback... If this goes through, then i will consider this thread for my window/door/plumbing etc... It's my little way of saying, Thank you to the thread and the MEN here, i always receive valuable info.

I pray it will go well, and I am waiting for your testimonies