Raalsalghul:


Is this sarcasm? This must be sarcasm!

Martinez39s:
Oh no! I can't believe I listened to the lies of the devil and let toxic redpillers influence me. I can't believe I advised others to ruthlessly put themselves first and not play Abraham and Sarah with any woman. Even if it is a churchy post-wall girl who was bleeped by bad guys in the past who rubbished her in the other room and treated her like trash, I should understand that she is now a new creature in Christ Jesus even when she did countless abortions for them and damaged her womb. Love does not judge by the past and is there through thick and thin. The love between me and the girl should be like no other love.

I think I took the amoral nature of the red pill toooooo farrrr. Where is my sympathy and compassion? May God help me and deliver me from joining bad gangs like Ubunja, CaveAdullam, skepticus etc.

ichidodo:
Here is my counter opinion...I believe tis good to stay behind your wife when the issue of barreness arise especially if you had met her not as a virgin and also after going past the wall...You see, God loves precarious challenges like these and His time is the best. When you trust in God for the fruit of the womb you learn very important virtues like forbearance, patience, putting your woman first, selflessness, Empathy, Sympathy,compassion and charity...All these virtues will store up treasures for you in Heaven therefore you might not ever have children from your wife but you will have your reward in Heaven....Look at Abraham, for example...Cheers.

ichidodo:
These toxic masculinity group called Redpillers will be the end of us all...I have one friend when we were in UI medical school, he didn't haff money before,he haff plenty plenty money now and he married his juliet and they now haff two shildren...That is the Romeo and juliet story all men should aspire to even if Juliet come with expired products after my friend has plenty money I will still advice him to marry juliet after all in medical school we were taught modern medical procedures like IVF, Artificial Horse Insemination, Surrogacy even Spermatooplasty...Las las adoption will end the discussion...Win-win situation for everyone..Juliet cashes out with my friend even after running through CCs in her hey days, My friend gets his reward in Heaven because God love White Knights and I get a nice peaceful family to squat with when I fly in from the abload....

dadrenaline:
Good morning folks. I am always in awe of the words of wisdom that men who have been in the field put out here near every single day — save for the few times distractions come in. You guys have been a blessing to many of us who just come in here to read — and if we're registered members — and click the "like" button.

I say a big thank you to everyone who has genuinely taken his time to teach men and boys true masculinity. Thank you so much.

Now, I don't usually bring my personal dealings to public, but in this case, I might have to compromise this one time.

As much as the red pill is amoral; I am someone that follows the path of Tonnyray, in that, I have a different perspective on the application of the redpill.

I have been soaking these pills since the inception of this thread, and while I didn't really have a platform to display what I knew, I had no idea that my mind was slowly being "renewed."

I am in my second year. In my first, I barely played around with girls, and generally avoided them. But not too long ago, I changed Church and started attending this student fellowship. I didn't like it at first, but I slowly grew my tolerance level and just did my thing. I noticed they had a lot of female leaders, and this was something that had never happened to me before, but I adapted quickly.

Like I said, I did my thing. I flowed more with the guys more, spoke little with the females and just generally avoided trouble.

Until recently, when I heard from my group leader that people (the female leaders including the Branch Pastor) were complaining about me. I supposedly have issues with submitting to authority; poor response and the fact that my words were never said in the right tone.

Her accusations shocked me but I overlooked them at first, until I noticed that the female leaders I played and joked started changing their approach towards me. They became harsher and more often than not, we tend to clash these days.

I really don't like that because I know just how dramatic women can be, especially when they know they can seem to get their way with me. They want me to bend to their whims, obviously, but that's not my person. I am a very agreeable person and most time, very sacrificial so long it involves the church, but other than that...it has to be my way. No negotiations. They seem to hate that.

Now, there are reasons why I can't leave this church, but my first question is how to get around authoritative female leaders with less friction? This is very important.

My second question has to do with my cell leader who invited me to the church and has been on my neck ever since. I have never seen such an aggressive green light signaling before in my life. She would force herself to dance with me; defend me on numerous occasions, even to the displeasure of our leaders; use my personal items such as handkerchiefs and others things time won't let me mention.

The act that truly got was after a particular vigil, work was still ongoing in church, so there was limited space to lay down and sleep. Naturally, spaces were divided to boys and girls, yet she left her female end and moved over to my space, and laid next to me...

My residential Pastor refused vehemently and called her out. She was to move over, but she refused saying that she had a phobia with sleeping in the middle of people. All said and good, oya move over to the end of the female line, she said no. She started crying and saying that no one likes to hear her point of view.

It was a serious affair that early morning, as none of the two women wanted to bend to the other. It was until this girl took her bag and wanted to risk her life to return home in the dead of the night that she was finally allowed to do her thing.

I was told to face the other direction while she slept. I did, but later changed my body position as anyone would while sleeping. Only for me to realize not long after that she was slowly moving her butt to touch my body. Now this girl was attractive — tall with long legs, sizeable bust, thick lips, and a moderate ass, just the way I like my girls —, so I tried hard to control myself. But she wouldn't stop until her butt was firmly glued to my Johnson. How I didn't go beyond half-mast that day was a miracle. But this was the height of it and I intentionally withdrew from her for a long time as I didn't know what she saw in me.

I am a regular joe, fairly tall, a good writer and has the voice of a Light Tenor. That's it. Yet, this girl has been acting like she wants to get Will Smith.

I was at a her place two days ago for church discussion, but she quickly used that opportunity to start her shenanigans again. As much as I like her, I don't want to date anyone now, but I do not want to lose the usefulness that comes with having her obsessed with me. How do I go about this?

Cc Martinez95, Tonnyray, Caveadullum and others.

Algebrah:
I can't believe I listened to toxic redpillers .
It will really end us, let's try to save dem hoes, our reward is in heaven.
How much is IVF sef that we can't do for them if truly we love our wives, even though she whores during her A days, we have to forgive her past atrocious activities because she has changed, she is godly now, we have to stick with her because marriage is for better for worse, till death do us apart
God punish devil

ichidodo:
How much is IVF??! When we say Redpliers are broke boys now, you people will be foaming in the mouth like Rabid Dogs...Gettat..

dadrenaline:
Good morning folks. I am always in awe of the words of wisdom that men who have been in the field put out here near every single day — save for the few times distractions come in. You guys have been a blessing to many of us who just come in here to read — and if we're registered members — and click the "like" button.

I say a big thank you to everyone who has genuinely taken his time to teach men and boys true masculinity. Thank you so much.

Now, I don't usually bring my personal dealings to public, but in this case, I might have to compromise this one time.

As much as the red pill is amoral; I am someone that follows the path of Tonnyray, in that, I have a different perspective on the application of the redpill.

I have been soaking these pills since the inception of this thread, and while I didn't really have a platform to display what I knew, I had no idea that my mind was slowly being "renewed."

I am in my second year. In my first, I barely played around with girls, and generally avoided them. But not too long ago, I changed Church and started attending this student fellowship. I didn't like it at first, but I slowly grew my tolerance level and just did my thing. I noticed they had a lot of female leaders, and this was something that had never happened to me before, but I adapted quickly.

Like I said, I did my thing. I flowed more with the guys more, spoke little with the females and just generally avoided trouble.

Until recently, when I heard from my group leader that people (the female leaders including the Branch Pastor) were complaining about me. I supposedly have issues with submitting to authority; poor response and the fact that my words were never said in the right tone.

Her accusations shocked me but I overlooked them at first, until I noticed that the female leaders I played and joked started changing their approach towards me. They became harsher and more often than not, we tend to clash these days.

I really don't like that because I know just how dramatic women can be, especially when they know they can seem to get their way with me. They want me to bend to their whims, obviously, but that's not my person. I am a very agreeable person and most time, very sacrificial so long it involves the church, but other than that...it has to be my way. No negotiations. They seem to hate that.

Now, there are reasons why I can't leave this church, but my first question is how to get around authoritative female leaders with less friction? This is very important.

My second question has to do with my cell leader who invited me to the church and has been on my neck ever since. I have never seen such an aggressive green light signaling before in my life. She would force herself to dance with me; defend me on numerous occasions, even to the displeasure of our leaders; use my personal items such as handkerchiefs and others things time won't let me mention.

The act that truly got was after a particular vigil, work was still ongoing in church, so there was limited space to lay down and sleep. Naturally, spaces were divided to boys and girls, yet she left her female end and moved over to my space, and laid next to me...

My residential Pastor refused vehemently and called her out. She was to move over, but she refused saying that she had a phobia with sleeping in the middle of people. All said and good, oya move over to the end of the female line, she said no. She started crying and saying that no one likes to hear her point of view.

It was a serious affair that early morning, as none of the two women wanted to bend to the other. It was until this girl took her bag and wanted to risk her life to return home in the dead of the night that she was finally allowed to do her thing.

I was told to face the other direction while she slept. I did, but later changed my body position as anyone would while sleeping. Only for me to realize not long after that she was slowly moving her butt to touch my body. Now this girl was attractive — tall with long legs, sizeable bust, thick lips, and a moderate ass, just the way I like my girls —, so I tried hard to control myself. But she wouldn't stop until her butt was firmly glued to my Johnson. How I didn't go beyond half-mast that day was a miracle. But this was the height of it and I intentionally withdrew from her for a long time as I didn't know what she saw in me.

I am a regular joe, fairly tall, a good writer and has the voice of a Light Tenor. That's it. Yet, this girl has been acting like she wants to get Will Smith.

I was at a her place two days ago for church discussion, but she quickly used that opportunity to start her shenanigans again. As much as I like her, I don't want to date anyone now, but I do not want to lose the usefulness that comes with having her obsessed with me. How do I go about this?

Cc Martinez95, Tonnyray, Caveadullum and others.

Tonnyray:
This life is pretty easy, na we dey complicate life.

Tonnyray:
The bedrock of almost all man/woman issues is when a man who is yet to even define himself/his purpose, rather than pedestalize and prioritize this essential, vital and noble task, "entangles himself with" a woman/women instead.

Tonnyray:
Thanks bro. I've been where you are so it just might be pretty easy drop my take on this. Permit me refer to my earlier quotes:

The difference is, in this case you're the one being sought out not the other way around. The resultant effect remains the same though: distraction from purpose. The answer to your questions will always reside in you. What exactly do YOU want? If sex (I very much doubt it from your tone) her rose petals are already dripping for you. You clearly stated you don't want to date. See bro, the biggest mistake we make is not wanting to hurt these females with the truth only for us to get burnt. And yes we most times always get burnt using this chivalrous format. The only way to win with women is to have a definite stand and be unflinching in your stand and resolve. You're lucky this is happening now on this scale where not much is at stake but trust me it is preparing you for bigger stages in life where a whole lot more will be at stake. Never let your dick control you in your dealings with them. Never let even your heart get the better of you in your dealings with them. And as you might already know concerning my inclinations, never go all out to hurt anyone either. But if by reason of your logical stance anyone gets her feelings hurt or ego bruised na her wahala be rat.

Lest I forget, on the matter of submission to authority, be very sure you are not insubordinate by nature. Very important. Very few things can mess you up in life faster than that. From the scenario you painted I am 95% sure those ladies just want every male around them pussywhipped into obeisance but it would be gross injustice to you if you got issues along this line and it's not quickly addressed. The best way to know however is to engage worthwhile male mentors and to check yourself if there's an established pattern of clashes with authority.
If there are any further questions or need for clarification I'm at your service bro.
One love.

dadrenaline:
Thank you sir for this awesome submission...

Truly, I like this girl and she won't be the first to come to me first as regards relationships. This has been the pattern all my life, including my friends — they always come to me first. This way, I get to choose if I want you or not. It's just that her's has been unusually aggressive.

After many trials and errors, I have finally found my purpose and it requires purity if I want to do well. It's just that this particular girl can be very strongly opinionated yet has a very low mental strength. She has contemplated suicide on few occasions, (and she isn't lying. I have been witness to such depressing times for her) from what she has told me. She cries easily and all of those annoying womanly stuff. She isn't tough and I fear what my rejection or eventual break-up will do to her.

She isn't stopping in her resolve to get me — it's been nine months already — and yet I know I will break the relationship if it ever gets to that 'cos I don't want sex, neither do I allow emotional bonds with people, generally, to last too long. You are right in saying that I should stand my ground; but what about the consequences?

I can't allow the one female leader in that church on my side now — at least until I get to turn things around with the rest — to turn against me now that my stance on being left alone is misunderstood for being rebellious.

About the other matter: no, I am not against authority. I understand hierarchy and how it works. It's just that they expect everyone to go in one direction at all times regardless of personality differences, and that won't work with me.

Perhaps, quotes of wisdom or how you have gone around situations like this, without losing self worth, will be greatly appreciated. These women are extremely important to expressing my gifts in that assembly.

Thanks.

dhiqson:
https://www.nairaland.com/6865859/lady-refuses-sleep-man-took

Why will he fly her out tho
But his come back shaa

Iyaebe:
I'll start taking you all serious when you start preaching to yourselves to shun sex since it involves women else I keep laughing at your deceitful selves. Simp simp simp yen yen yen all the time,there's no man that won't simp one way or the other before he can get any lady to go down with him,you'll be surprised outside here how your Almighty ubunja simp before a lady he wishes to get down with.I'll advise you all to see a shrink because you need it,stop deceiving yourselves and be in tune with reality. They even have that delusional thing they call MGTOW whereas MGTOW=EDTB(Erection Drawing Them Back).

dadrenaline:
Good morning folks. I am always in awe of the words of wisdom that men who have been in the field put out here near every single day — save for the few times distractions come in. You guys have been a blessing to many of us who just come in here to read — and if we're registered members — and click the "like" button.

I say a big thank you to everyone who has genuinely taken his time to teach men and boys true masculinity. Thank you so much.

Now, I don't usually bring my personal dealings to public, but in this case, I might have to compromise this one time.

As much as the red pill is amoral; I am someone that follows the path of Tonnyray, in that, I have a different perspective on the application of the redpill.

I have been soaking these pills since the inception of this thread, and while I didn't really have a platform to display what I knew, I had no idea that my mind was slowly being "renewed."

I am in my second year. In my first, I barely played around with girls, and generally avoided them. But not too long ago, I changed Church and started attending this student fellowship. I didn't like it at first, but I slowly grew my tolerance level and just did my thing. I noticed they had a lot of female leaders, and this was something that had never happened to me before, but I adapted quickly.

Like I said, I did my thing. I flowed more with the guys more, spoke little with the females and just generally avoided trouble.

Until recently, when I heard from my group leader that people (the female leaders including the Branch Pastor) were complaining about me. I supposedly have issues with submitting to authority; poor response and the fact that my words were never said in the right tone.

Her accusations shocked me but I overlooked them at first, until I noticed that the female leaders I played and joked started changing their approach towards me. They became harsher and more often than not, we tend to clash these days.

I really don't like that because I know just how dramatic women can be, especially when they know they can seem to get their way with me. They want me to bend to their whims, obviously, but that's not my person. I am a very agreeable person and most time, very sacrificial so long it involves the church, but other than that...it has to be my way. No negotiations. They seem to hate that.

Now, there are reasons why I can't leave this church, but my first question is how to get around authoritative female leaders with less friction? This is very important.

My second question has to do with my cell leader who invited me to the church and has been on my neck ever since. I have never seen such an aggressive green light signaling before in my life. She would force herself to dance with me; defend me on numerous occasions, even to the displeasure of our leaders; use my personal items such as handkerchiefs and others things time won't let me mention.

The act that truly got was after a particular vigil, work was still ongoing in church, so there was limited space to lay down and sleep. Naturally, spaces were divided to boys and girls, yet she left her female end and moved over to my space, and laid next to me...

My residential Pastor refused vehemently and called her out. She was to move over, but she refused saying that she had a phobia with sleeping in the middle of people. All said and good, oya move over to the end of the female line, she said no. She started crying and saying that no one likes to hear her point of view.

It was a serious affair that early morning, as none of the two women wanted to bend to the other. It was until this girl took her bag and wanted to risk her life to return home in the dead of the night that she was finally allowed to do her thing.

I was told to face the other direction while she slept. I did, but later changed my body position as anyone would while sleeping. Only for me to realize not long after that she was slowly moving her butt to touch my body. Now this girl was attractive — tall with long legs, sizeable bust, thick lips, and a moderate ass, just the way I like my girls —, so I tried hard to control myself. But she wouldn't stop until her butt was firmly glued to my Johnson. How I didn't go beyond half-mast that day was a miracle. But this was the height of it and I intentionally withdrew from her for a long time as I didn't know what she saw in me.

I am a regular joe, fairly tall, a good writer and has the voice of a Light Tenor. That's it. Yet, this girl has been acting like she wants to get Will Smith.

I was at a her place two days ago for church discussion, but she quickly used that opportunity to start her shenanigans again. As much as I like her, I don't want to date anyone now, but I do not want to lose the usefulness that comes with having her obsessed with me. How do I go about this?

Cc Martinez95, Tonnyray, Caveadullum and others.

Algebrah:
K

Martinez39s:
Our former soccer god Ronaldinho is in trouble. Because he stayed with his girlfriend in a relationship up to a certain period of time, the state sees them as a "common law couple". This means that she is entitled to monthly maintenance from Ronaldinho after their break up; Ronaldinho was ordered to pay her £13,500 a month. Now, Ronnie is being threatened with jail term to pay up. The common law situation can be seen in some parts of the developed world as well. Know the laws and stop trusting these females not to weaponize them against you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6865824/ronaldinho-faces-jail-time-over#107926309

Here is another picture of a common-law couple. Till weekend.

ezeonline:
Guys, if you can't take care of yourself, nobody will. All the urgent 2k, subscription, buy me pepsi, take me out ...... what these hoes always demand for can go a long way in meeting your petty needs like changing your boxers and singlets. Please let us be careful about how we spend our money.

Oyin2212:

Madness

Martinez39s:
Our former soccer god Ronaldinho is in trouble. Because he stayed with his girlfriend in a relationship up to a certain period of time, the state sees them as a "common law couple". This means that she is entitled to monthly maintenance from Ronaldinho after their break up; Ronaldinho was ordered to pay her £13,500 a month. Now, Ronnie is being threatened with jail term to pay up. The common law situation can be seen in some parts of the developed world as well. Know the laws and stop trusting these females not to weaponize them against you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6865824/ronaldinho-faces-jail-time-over#107926309

Here is another picture of a common-law couple. Till weekend.

Martinez39s:
Our former soccer god Ronaldinho is in trouble. Because he stayed with his girlfriend in a relationship up to a certain period of time, the state sees them as a "common law couple". This means that she is entitled to monthly maintenance from Ronaldinho after their break up; Ronaldinho was ordered to pay her £13,500 a month. Now, Ronnie is being threatened with jail term to pay up. The common law situation can be seen in some parts of the developed world as well. Know the laws and stop trusting these females not to weaponize them against you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6865824/ronaldinho-faces-jail-time-over#107926309

Here is another picture of a common-law couple. Till weekend.

Junnior:
cool.
I hope you don't mind my asking: How do you game them?

I ask for the sake of learning, not to argue.

Martinez39s:
Our former soccer god Ronaldinho is in trouble. Because he stayed with his girlfriend in a relationship up to a certain period of time, the state sees them as a "common law couple". This means that she is entitled to monthly maintenance from Ronaldinho after their break up; Ronaldinho was ordered to pay her £13,500 a month. Now, Ronnie is being threatened with jail term to pay up. The common law situation can be seen in some parts of the developed world as well. Know the laws and stop trusting these females not to weaponize them against you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6865824/ronaldinho-faces-jail-time-over#107926309

Here is another picture of a common-law couple. Till weekend.

dadrenaline:
Good morning folks. I am always in awe of the words of wisdom that men who have been in the field put out here near every single day — save for the few times distractions come in. You guys have been a blessing to many of us who just come in here to read — and if we're registered members — and click the "like" button.

I say a big thank you to everyone who has genuinely taken his time to teach men and boys true masculinity. Thank you so much.

dadrenaline:
Now, I don't usually bring my personal dealings to public, but in this case, I might have to compromise this one time.

dadrenaline:
As much as the red pill is amoral; I am someone that follows the path of Tonnyray, in that, I have a different perspective on the application of the redpill.

dadrenaline:
I have been soaking these pills since the inception of this thread, and while I didn't really have a platform to display what I knew, I had no idea that my mind was slowly being "renewed."

dadrenaline:
I am in my second year. In my first, I barely played around with girls, and generally avoided them. But not too long ago, I changed Church and started attending this student fellowship. I didn't like it at first, but I slowly grew my tolerance level and just did my thing. I noticed they had a lot of female leaders, and this was something that had never happened to me before, but I adapted quickly.

Like I said, I did my thing. I flowed more with the guys more, spoke little with the females and just generally avoided trouble.

Until recently, when I heard from my group leader that people (the female leaders including the Branch Pastor) were complaining about me. I supposedly have issues with submitting to authority; poor response and the fact that my words were never said in the right tone.

Her accusations shocked me but I overlooked them at first, until I noticed that the female leaders I played and joked started changing their approach towards me. They became harsher and more often than not, we tend to clash these days.

I really don't like that because I know just how dramatic women can be, especially when they know they can seem to get their way with me. They want me to bend to their whims, obviously, but that's not my person. I am a very agreeable person and most time, very sacrificial so long it involves the church, but other than that...it has to be my way. No negotiations. They seem to hate that.

dadrenaline:
Now, there are reasons why I can't leave this church, but my first question is how to get around authoritative female leaders with less friction? This is very important.

dadrenaline:
My second question has to do with my cell leader who invited me to the church and has been on my neck ever since. I have never seen such an aggressive green light signaling before in my life. She would force herself to dance with me; defend me on numerous occasions, even to the displeasure of our leaders; use my personal items such as handkerchiefs and others things time won't let me mention.

The act that truly got was after a particular vigil, work was still ongoing in church, so there was limited space to lay down and sleep. Naturally, spaces were divided to boys and girls, yet she left her female end and moved over to my space, and laid next to me...

My residential Pastor refused vehemently and called her out. She was to move over, but she refused saying that she had a phobia with sleeping in the middle of people. All said and good, oya move over to the end of the female line, she said no. She started crying and saying that no one likes to hear her point of view.

It was a serious affair that early morning, as none of the two women wanted to bend to the other. It was until this girl took her bag and wanted to risk her life to return home in the dead of the night that she was finally allowed to do her thing.

I was told to face the other direction while she slept. I did, but later changed my body position as anyone would while sleeping. Only for me to realize not long after that she was slowly moving her butt to touch my body. Now this girl was attractive — tall with long legs, sizeable bust, thick lips, and a moderate ass, just the way I like my girls —, so I tried hard to control myself. But she wouldn't stop until her butt was firmly glued to my Johnson. How I didn't go beyond half-mast that day was a miracle. But this was the height of it and I intentionally withdrew from her for a long time as I didn't know what she saw in me.

I am a regular joe, fairly tall, a good writer and has the voice of a Light Tenor. That's it. Yet, this girl has been acting like she wants to get Will Smith.

I was at a her place two days ago for church discussion, but she quickly used that opportunity to start her shenanigans again. As much as I like her, I don't want to date anyone now, but I do not want to lose the usefulness that comes with having her obsessed with me. How do I go about this?

Cc Martinez95, Tonnyray, Caveadullum and others.

Lightway:

Female nature is not cruel. It is the same way patriarchy gave men the upper hand. Now feminism and technology is giving women the upper hand. The same way patriarchy made women look like nothing without redpill, feminism and media is making men look like nothing if they don't provide for a women or treat her with respect whether or not she deserves.

Men, you have to evolve if you want to win this game ..

ashewoboy:

I have never commented here. this is the type of girl ubunja says you should go for. "no green light, no approach." you even like her, shoot your shot. she wants to be phvcked, phvck her silly. this is the same advice ubunja will give to you.

Martinez39s:
Our former soccer god Ronaldinho is in trouble. Because he stayed with his girlfriend in a relationship up to a certain period of time, the state sees them as a "common law couple". This means that she is entitled to monthly maintenance from Ronaldinho after their break up; Ronaldinho was ordered to pay her £13,500 a month. Now, Ronnie is being threatened with jail term to pay up. The common law situation can be seen in some parts of the developed world as well. Know the laws and stop trusting these females not to weaponize them against you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6865824/ronaldinho-faces-jail-time-over#107926309

Here is another picture of a common-law couple. Till weekend.