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POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Nobody: 4:16am On Nov 26, 2021
POLITICS
What IPOB, Yoruba agitators are doing ‘ll be child’s play, if Nigeria’s not restructured — Clark warns

FORMER Federal Commissioner for Information and South-South leader, Chief Edwin Clark has warned that the struggle by the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB and Yoruba nation agitators will be child’s play in Nigeria if the country fails to restructure, just as he warned that there will be chaos in this country.

According to Clark, the agitation for self-determination and secessions will definitely increase and the security situation of the country will be worsened and the conduct of 2023 general and Presidential elections will be threatened.
Clark who alleged that the National Assembly spends about N1 billion annually in trying to review the nation’s constitution without making any headway, said, “The National Assembly has been spending N1 billion every year on amending the constitution of Nigeria for years now. They have not been able to do so.”

The Ijaw leader who noted that the South, the North and the entire country are calling for restructuring, urged President Muhammadu Buhari to as matter of urgency convoke a Representative Assembly or Town Hall meeting to consider Governor Nasir El- Rufai of Kaduna state’s All Progressives Congress, APC Committee Report on restructuring or that of 2014 National Conference report.
Addressing Journalists yesterday at his Asokoro residence, Abuja, the leader of Southern and Middle Belt Leaders Forum, SMBLF warned that President Buhari must not allow Nigeria to break due to what he described as the authoritarian attitude of one individual, just as he stressed that restructuring has become very imperative because it was one of the key priority issues in the APC’s Manifesto when it was formed and during the 2015 Presidential campaigns which have now been abandoned on the assumption of office by the President.

He said that if the APC cannot implement its own committee’s recommendations, it means that it lacks the necessary capacity under President Buhari.
The Elder statesman who noted that he is close to 95 years and speaking on behalf of fellow elders and Nigerians, said that he will not stop talking and writing to President Buhari about Nigeria and its challenges, adding that nobody will be a slave to another in the country and that the President is not an Emperor or a king, but elected by the people to serve Nigeria and Nigerians irrespective of race, religion or ethnic group.

According to him, Nigeria must be ready to fight for liberation as the prison is not only for thieves but for those who are fighting for the interest of their country, adding that some of them are ready to go for treasonable trial against the backdrop that nobody loves this country more than himself and that Enough is enough.

Clark said,” Mr President, I beg of you, in the name of Almighty God, I am now very close to 95 years, and on behalf of my fellow elders and our children, act NOW. We have no other country to call our own, no other country to go to if Nigeria breaks due to the authoritarian attitude of one individual. Please retrace your steps and embrace and implement your party’s report, the El-Rufai APC Committee Report. Nigerians will accept it.

“The South is calling for restructuring; the North is calling for restructuring. The whole country believes in Restructuring. The restructuring was also one of the key priority issues in his party’s, the APC, Manifesto when it was formed, and during the 2015 presidential campaigns, which he has now abandoned, on the assumption of office.

“I challenge Mr President, Muhammadu Buhari as the de facto controller of the APC, to convoke a representative assembly or town hall meeting, to consider only the APC Report on restructuring if he sincerely believes in the unity of Nigeria, where everyone is a stakeholder, not a Nigeria where only a few or one ethnic group who are in minority, keep displaying autocratic and emperoic stance, reminding us of what their forefathers did over 100 years ago, wanting to do same today. Of course, it is a big NO!

“It may be necessary here to remind Nigerians the role played by our illustrious son, late Gen. Murtala Mohammed in the elimination of apartheid in South Africa when he was in office for only six months. It is, therefore, unimaginable and understandable that an officer in the government of Gen. Murtala Mohammed will be the one to create an obstacle or s son, late Gen. Murtala Mohammed in the elimination of apartheid in South Africa when he was in office for only six months. It is, therefore, unimaginable and understandable that an officer in the government of Gen. Murtala Mohammed will be the one to create an obstacle or oppose what his former boss instituted. And this was what our beloved late General Murtala Mohammed went to South Africa to fight against.

We cannot be slaves in our own country.

“The National Executive of the APC, in a meeting which was also attended by Mr President, Muhammadu Buhari, himself as a party member, accepted the Report of the El-Rufai Committee and stated that it will be sent to the National Assembly (NASS).

“However, same Mr President has refused to take any definite action for the Report to be sent to the NASS. What several Nigerians want is actually the restructuring of the country in order to douse the tensions and agitations which is almost tearing the country apart today, and is the main cause of the high insecurity being experienced.

“Nigerians are ready to accept the implementation of the 2014 National Conference, or the APC’s El-Rufai Committee Report, any of which will no doubt satisfy the generality of the Nigerian people.

“It is indeed shameful and unpatriotic for the Leaders of APC to pretend that they have not seen the El-Rufai Committee Report or even the 2014 National Conference Report. Some are even shamelessly stating that they do not know what restructuring means, and allow President Muhammadu Buhari to take over total control and direction of the party’s government; instead, they are more interested in whom is to take over from him in 2023, for which they pretentiously worship him like god just to gain favour.

The Tinubus who brought restructuring to the Manifesto of APC has not spoken because they fear that if they do, they will not be allowed to contest for the Presidency of the country, come 2023.

“For which his party, the APC, faced with stiff opposition for not implementing their promised restructuring programme. So, the party’s national executive including President Buhari decided to set up a committee under the chairmanship of Nasir El-Rufai, the Governor of Kaduna State, with other prominent party members asmembers of the Committee. The Committee called for memoranda from Nigerians, went around the country and came out with a Report that buttressed restructuring.”

“Nigeria must be ready. The prison is not only for thieves, it is s meant for those who are fighting for the interest of their country. Some of us are ready for treasonable trials. We’re ready to go. Nobody loves this country more than myself. Enough is enough

“As I said, I am speaking on behalf of the majority of Nigerians who are aggrieved. A meeting called by Mr. president to Aso Rock of representative of Nigeria will not last more than one day. The executive will then prepare a memorandum to the National Assembly and within three or four months they will be completed. The National Assembly has been spending N1 billion every year on amending the constitution of Nigeria for years now they have not been able to do so.

“So if the APC is the party ruling Nigeria today, it means it lacks power under President Buhari to implement whatever they want to implement in the interest of Nigeria. So the issue of time does not arise. If they want to do it within six months, it will be carried out. otherwise, the problem of IPOB and others will join.

“Let me warn you that this country does not belong to a few individuals. What IPOB is doing, what the Yorubas are doing is still child’s play. No other Nigerian is prepared to subjugate himself.

“We may all join and there will be chaos in this country. Some of us are already on our way out. But why should we live in Nigeria that God has given to us, the biggest country in Africa with resources, human resources after the United States of America, I don’t think there’s anyone that can treat us like second-hand citizens. But what are we doing with our resources”

Says NASS Spends N1billion yearly on futile Constitution Review
Warns that Buhari must not allow Nigeria to break due to his Authoritarian Attitude
Urges Buhari to Convoke a Representative Assembly or Town Hall Meeting to Consider El- Rufai’s Report or 2014 Confab Report on Restructuring
***Says some of them are ready to go for Treasonable Trial, the Prison is not only for thieves but for those fighting for the interest of their country.

Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Abdul05: 4:28am On Nov 26, 2021
Why didn't you tell your brother Jonathan to do it when he was in power? grin grin



Na now you cum dey flex ur mind Abi..grin grin grin

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by J3susFr3ak: 5:10am On Nov 26, 2021
9jah:
POLITICS
What IPOB, Yoruba agitators are doing ‘ll be child’s play, if Nigeria’s not restructured — Clark warns

...
Addressing Journalists yesterday at his Asokoro residence, Abuja, the leader of Southern and Middle Belt Leaders Forum, SMBLF warned that President Buhari must not allow Nigeria to break due to what he described as the authoritarian attitude of one individual, just as he stressed that restructuring has become very imperative because it was one of the key priority issues in the APC’s Manifesto when it was formed and during the 2015 Presidential campaigns which have now been abandoned on the assumption of office by the President.

***Says some of them are ready to go for Treasonable Trial, the Prison is not only for thieves but for those fighting for the interest of their country.

I was almost confused by the quoted paragraph. On re-reading I kind of understood that Edwin Clark is the current leader of the Southern and Middle Belt Forum (which was not so clear on first reading). I have seen some encouraging comments from non-compromised Middle Belt leaders in the past in this forum. As a platform for minorities (and interested majority ethnic groups) in these regions it does need an elevated visibility especially if they form a formidable caucus around key issues that cross along party lines---but merge around a common interest. Being able to create a single "voting bloc" around key issues based on deep rooted ideology is so missing in Nigeria's fledgling pseudo-democratic experiment. I assume the key ideology around "restructuring" for the SMBF would be:
1. The need for State or Regional Police (Decentralize the Policing Architecture) --and I dare say decentralize the way the Army Cantonments have also been politicized to carry out "ethnic objectives" by by-passing the Chief Security Officers of the various states.
2. The ability for States to collect their own VAT and other types of key taxes
3. Resource Control (this is obvious isn't it?)
4. True Federalism -- This has been over-stressed. There is a high cost to the current centralized system. A tyrant like the current one who seizes power at the center, is easily bound to abuse it to the max as it is being witnessed. There has been a call to decentralize power to a regional system. 5 to 6 regions seem more realistic and practical. But within this 5 to 6 regions you can still maintain the current states and have the states maintain their autonomy. People can vote for their various Governors. The Governors can then rotate the leadership of the Premiership of their regions to forestall the accumulation of power in just one person (the way the EU Presidency is Rotated from country to country). This helps to make all politics Local and Relevant to the needs of the people.

Countries like Germany are divided into Federal States (which have immense powers like countries within a country). These Federal States are able to make laws that concern their unique needs and even the Mayor of a City is the final person to approve your Residence Permit if you are a foreigner. Even "Germans" from another city need to register when they move to another city or change addresses. Today in Nigeria, horde of aliens from Niger, Chad and diverse countries can easily be shipped in to vote during elections and given dubious Indigene forms with no sanity checks. Often, these same people in connivance with a section of the local population connive to foment trouble. Nobody truly knows how many or what types of people live in their cities because there is no sane way to check for these things. And this is why in places like Germany, you cannot be given a phone number if you are not properly registered with the city with a local bank account. These are all sanity checks in the system to weed out foreign elements that can only be done at the local level--not Abuja.

Sorry for babbling...there's much to say, but hey...hoping the above sparks some thoughts.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by vedaxcool(m): 5:23am On Nov 26, 2021
Arguably one of the most hypocritical politician. They only know restructuring once they are no longer enjoying power at the centre. A pathetic fall back position that undercuts genuine issues. PMB pushed for LG, State Assembly and Judiciary independence. None of the emergency restricting advocate joined In demanding from their governors to support the move. Till this moment none of them have demanded from their representatives to raise this issues at the National Assembly. They want PMB to magically restructure a country without following the process which vests such authority in the National Assembly.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Nobody: 6:02am On Nov 26, 2021
J3susFr3ak:


I was almost confused by the quoted paragraph. On re-reading I kind of understood that Edwin Clark is the current leader of the Southern and Middle Belt Forum (which was not so clear on first reading). I have seen some encouraging comments from non-compromised Middle Belt leaders in the past in this forum. As a platform for minorities (and interested majority ethnic groups) in these regions it does need an elevated visibility especially if they form a formidable caucus around key issues that cross along party lines---but merge around a common interest. Being able to create a single "voting bloc" around key issues based on deep rooted ideology is so missing in Nigeria's fledgling pseudo-democratic experiment. I assume the key ideology around "restructuring" for the SMBF would be:
1. The need for State or Regional Police (Decentralize the Policing Architecture) --and I dare say decentralize the way the Army Cantonments have also been politicized to carry out "ethnic objectives" by by-passing the Chief Security Officers of the various states.
2. The ability for States to collect their own VAT and other types of key taxes
3. Resource Control (this is obvious isn't it?)
4. True Federalism -- This has been over-stressed. There is a high cost to the current centralized system. A tyrant like the current one who seizes power at the center, is easily bound to abuse it to the max as it is being witnessed. There has been a call to decentralize power to a regional system. 5 to 6 regions seem more realistic and practical. But within this 5 to 6 regions you can still maintain the current states and have the states maintain their autonomy. People can vote for their various Governors. The Governors can then rotate the leadership of the Premiership of their regions to forestall the accumulation of power in just one person (the way the EU Presidency is Rotated from country to country). This helps to make all politics Local and Relevant to the needs of the people.

Countries like Germany are divided into Federal States (which have immense powers like countries within a country). These Federal States are able to make laws that concern their unique needs and even the Mayor of a City is the final person to approve your Residence Permit if you are a foreigner. Even "Germans" from another city need to register when they move to another city or change addresses. Today in Nigeria, horde of aliens from Niger, Chad and diverse countries can easily be shipped in to vote during elections and given dubious Indigene forms with no sanity checks. Often, these same people in connivance with a section of the local population connive to foment trouble. Nobody truly knows how many or what types of people live in their cities because there is no sane way to check for these things. And this is why in places like Germany, you cannot be given a phone number if you are not properly registered with the city with a local bank account. These are all sanity checks in the system to weed out foreign elements that can only be done at the local level--not Abuja.

Sorry for babbling...there's much to say, but hey...hoping the above sparks some thoughts.


Thanks- I like your great ideas; Our generation need to start having a better conversation; we cant continue like this; Nigeria need a national round table discussion; He that is down ;fear no fall.
Once again thanks.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by ITbomb(m): 6:28am On Nov 26, 2021
Abdul05:
Why didn't you tell your brother Jonathan to do when he was power? grin grin



Na now you cum dey flex ur mind Abi..grin grin grin
He was busy collecting contracts militants stipend
But
That he didn't ask it then doesn't mean Nigeria is not overdue for restructuring

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Terorislam: 6:47am On Nov 26, 2021
Yoruba Muslims miscreants are shevering already, unity begars

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by TeeGentle(m): 7:24am On Nov 26, 2021
na only God go save us from dis naija
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Chibudollar: 8:25am On Nov 26, 2021
Abdul05:
Why didn't you tell your brother Jonathan to do when he was power? grin grin



Na now you cum dey flex ur mind Abi..grin grin grin
just went through your comment section, you have a very sad life. The only thing you do is go look for pages about anything relating igbos and comment rubbish. Sick help

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Iliveforever(m): 9:20am On Nov 26, 2021
Abdul05:
Why didn't you tell your brother Jonathan to do when he was power? grin grin



Na now you cum dey flex ur mind Abi..grin grin grin

Keep asking such demented question until you’ll be country less
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by J3susFr3ak: 2:41pm On Nov 26, 2021
9jah:


Thanks- I like your great ideas; Our generation need to start having a better conversation; we cant continue like this; Nigeria need a national round table discussion; He that is down ;fear no fall.
Once again thanks.

Thank you too for raising this up. I don't know how the Mods or algorithm of NL works--but important issues like this needs to be on the Frontpage more often. I have my suspicions that the DSS and those in power monitor sites like this to spy, extract info and throttle certain types of info from being actively promoted or discussed.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Nobody: 5:17pm On Nov 26, 2021
J3susFr3ak:


Thank you too for raising this up. I don't know how the Mods or algorithm of NL works--but important issues like this needs to be on the Frontpage more often. I have my suspicions that the DSS and those in power monitor sites like this to spy, extract info and throttle certain types of info from being actively promoted or discussed.
Once again your right;
Our media houses are bought ; including nairaland, they have an agenda; against progressive Nigerians; they love the status quo; divide and rule; filled with propaganda's to confuse the oppressed.We the enlightened progressives have to push back ; keep talking for a better future for our next generation.The constitution they ( oppressors) wrote for us those not benefit us but benefits them.We cant be slaves and silent; We are just mere indigenes in Nigeria not citizens.
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 5:36pm On Nov 26, 2021
vedaxcool:
Arguably one of the most hypocritical politician. They only know restructuring once they are no longer enjoying power at the centre. A pathetic fall back position that undercuts genuine issues. PMB pushed for LG, State Assembly and Judiciary independence. None of the emergency restricting advocate joined In demanding from their governors to support the move. Till this moment none of them have demanded from their representatives to raise this issues at the National Assembly. They want PMB to magically restructure a country without following the process which vests such authority in the National Assembly.

But the APC promised restructuring when they were campaigning the first time. Why are they singing a different tune now? Why is APC controlled national assembly not doing anything about it? This is not about Buhari per se, but we know his lukewarm attitude to it.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 5:44pm On Nov 26, 2021
Chibudollar:
just went through your comment section, you have a very sad life. The only thing you do is go look for pages about anything relating igbos and comment rubbish. Sick help
Keep quiet, why did he not tell Jonathan to restructure Nigeria, Hypocrite papa, gone are the days under Jonathan were journalist will come to your house & drink Hennessy from morning to night thrilling them with tales, then small envelope on their way home.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 5:46pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


But the APC promised restructuring when they were campaigning the first time. Why are they singing a different tune now? Why is APC controlled national assembly not doing anything about it? This is not about Buhari per se, but we know his lukewarm attitude to it.
What is restructuring? the one you presently practice, you haven’t understood it, you are talking of another system? A failure will always have an excuse, Is their any SAN in Nigeria today that can claim he is more intelligent than Rotimi Williams?

The people that created the system do you infants know more than them? Give you Nigerians any system, it will still be a failed system, a bad tree can never yield good fruits, nothing like a perfect society, no Utopia country exist in the world.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 5:56pm On Nov 26, 2021
J3susFr3ak:


Thank you too for raising this up. I don't know how the Mods or algorithm of NL works--but important issues like this needs to be on the Frontpage more often. I have my suspicions that[b] the DSS and those in power monitor sites like this to spy, extract info and throttle certain types of info from being actively promoted or discussed.[/b]
2018, I went to EFCC office on Awolowo Road based on a petition I had submitted, when I was writing a statement, the aboki Officer na them be 90% of the staff there, I look em laptop, he was on Nairaland.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:02pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:
What is restructuring? the one you presently practice, you haven’t understood it, you are talking of another system? A failure will always have an excuse, Is their any SAN in Nigeria today that can claim he is more intelligent than Rotimi Williams?

The people that created the system do you infants know more than them? Give you Nigerians any system, it will still be a failed system, a bad tree can never yield good fruits, nothing like a perfect society, no Utopia country exist in the world.

"What is restructuring" This is the most dubious question often asked by people who like to preserve the status quo.
I was disappointed when Buhari said the same thing.

Nigeria got independence under a carefully negotiated constitution which was accepted and understood by everyone. You are right, no one understands the current system because it is a bastardized version of what was negotiated before independence.
The military created the current system and it is obviously not acceptable to millions of Nigerians hence the agitation.
Good luck to all of you who wants to preserve it because it has run its course. What comes next is anyone's guess.
PS: The people who created the current system definitely does not know more than Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello, Anthony Enahoro , Azikiwe and the British who oversaw the constitutional conferences in London. Besides, that constitution was accepted by all Nigerians.
If you ask what is restructuring, you are only fooling yourself.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:11pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


"What is restructuring" This is the most dubious question often asked by people who like to preserve the status quo.
I was disappointed when Buhari said the same thing.

Nigeria got independence under a carefully negotiated constitution which was accepted and understood by everyone. You are right, no one understands the current system because it is a bastardized version of what was negotiated before independence.
The military created the current system and it is obviously not acceptable to millions of Nigerians hence the agitation.
Good luck to all of you who wants to preserve it because it has run its course. What comes next is anyone's guess.
Like I said earlier a Failure would always have an excuse, no Constitution in the world is perfect that is why there is room for amendments, the Military wrote the constitution you claim which is lie, the Constitution of 1999 as Amended is the 1979 Constitution created by Rotimi Williams & his friend Obasanjo & Yaradua. The Military was in a hurry to leave in 1999, they did not bother writing any Constitution.

We have had the civilians in power for 22 years now What has stopped you people from doing what you want to do in changing your system? No one because you people have no plans of changing anything, just cheap talk. American Constitution has been amended 27 times, Government come, Government go. Nothing wrong with the system, something wrong with the people that practice the system.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:22pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:



PS: The people who created the current system definitely does not know more than Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello, Anthony Enahoro , Azikiwe and the British who oversaw the constitutional conferences in London. Besides, that constitution was accepted by all Nigerians.
If you ask what is restructuring, you are only fooling yourself.
Least you forget, the failure of the 1st Republic lead to the Civil War, so Nigeria has been running from pillar to post for 50 years, yet you people can’t get it right, now it is to try another system?

The people are the problem not the system, if they gave You Richard Hamilton’s Mercedes, you will still come last in the F1 race, & blame the car?

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:22pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:
Like I said earlier a Failure would always have an excuse, no Constitution in the world is perfect that is why there is room for amendments, the Military wrote the constitution you claim which is lie, the Constitution of 1999 as Amended is the 1979 Constitution created by Rotimi Williams & his friend Obasanjo & Yaradua.

We have had the civilians in power for 22 years now What has stopped you people from doing what you want to do in changing your system? No one because you people have no plans of changing anything, just cheap talk. Government come, Government go.

Having the civilians in power for 22 years is not an excuse to preserve a system that doesn't serve the purpose for which it was created.
Why is Nigeria still lagging behind despite all the resources available to her for the past 60 years?
The system we run is an aberration of what federalism should be.
Point to any federal system in the world where the federating units have to go to the central government to get monthly allowance! This is just an example, I name ten other areas where Nigeria is a federation by name only.
We do have sensible plans which is to return Nigeria to a proper federation as agreed before independence.
It is the same system in Australia, in Canada, in India and many other successful democracies, why is your own different. This is what I need you to explain to me.
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:25pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:
Least you forget, the failure of the 1st Republic lead to the Civil War, so Nigeria has been running from pillar to post for 50 years, yet you people can’t get it right, now it is to try another system?

The people are the problem not the system, if they gave You Richard Hamilton’s Mercedes, you will still come last in the F1 race, & blame the car?

We are not actually asking for another system. Just a proper federation. Not the type where the states will go cap in hand every month to Abuja to get allocations which are in turn promptly embezzled.
The system is indeed the problem, it is also the reason why Nigeria not properly secured in terms of policing. I can go on and on.
A big chunk of our GDP is wasted on bureaucracy. What is left for development? It is the system not the people.
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:28pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


Having the civilians in power for 22 years is not an excuse to preserve a system that doesn't serve the purpose for which it was created.
Why is Nigeria still lagging behind despite all the resources available to her for the past 60 years?
The system we run is an aberration of what federalism should be.
Point to any federal system in the world where the federating units have to go to the central government to get monthly allowance! This is just an example, I name ten other areas where Nigeria is a federation by name only.
We do have sensible plans which is to return Nigeria to a proper federation as agreed before independence.
It is the same system in Australia, in Canada, in India and many other successful democracies, why is your own different. This is what I need you to explain to me.
Talk is cheap, You Nigerians are not ready to change anything, stop deceiving yourselves. Nigeria is a perfect example of a Federal system run by corrupt people since 1960, we copied & paste our system, practicality is the problem, nothing wrong with the The Federal system we practice in Nigeria, something wrong with the animals that run the system.
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:30pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


We are not actually asking for another system. Just a proper federation. Not the type where the states will go cap in hand every month to Abuja to get allocations which are in turn promptly embezzled.
The system is indeed the problem, it is also the reason why Nigeria not properly secured in terms of policing. I can go on and on.
Like I said, you Nigerians are not ready to change any system of Government just talk, nothing wrong with the system, something wrong with the people that practice the system.

Switch to communism if you are tired of capitalism?

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:33pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:
Like I said, you Nigerians are not ready to change any system of Government just talk, nothing wrong with the system, something wrong with the people that practice the system.

Switch to communism if you are tired of capitalism?

Who is talking about communism?
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:34pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


Having the civilians in power for 22 years is not an excuse to preserve a system that doesn't serve the purpose for which it was created.
Why is Nigeria still lagging behind despite all the resources available to her for the past 60 years?
The system we run is an aberration of what federalism should be.
Point to any federal system in the world where the federating units have to go to the central government to get monthly allowance! This is just an example, I name ten other areas where Nigeria is a federation by name only.
We do have sensible plans which is to return Nigeria to a proper federation as agreed before independence.
It is the same system in Australia, in Canada, in India and many other successful democracies, why is your own different. This is what I need you to explain to me.
Like I said I couldn’t tell you the system of Government in other countries I focus on the one of my country, we have states that create jobs & their own revenue, Federal Government Allocation doesn’t stop any state from prospering, it is sharing the wealth from the Federal Government common prosperity amongst its children. State House of Assemblies are allowed to make laws for the prosperity of the state.

You just reiterated the point that I have been trying to get across is that you people don’t understand the system of Government you practice in Nigeria.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by optionalY09: 6:34pm On Nov 26, 2021
once they settle him he’ll sell phi’s people out again these are the people that has ben trading with the destiny of their people that’s why we need a revolution or disintegration
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:
Like I said I couldn’t tell you the system of Government in other countries I focus on the one of my country, we have states that create jobs & their own revenue, Federal Government Allocation doesn’t stop any state from prospering, it is sharing the wealth from the Federal Government common prosperity amongst its children. State House of Assemblies are allowed to make laws for the prosperity of the state.

It is the other way my friend. The states should generate their money and give a certain percentage to the federal government.
The federal government should not be playing father Christmas. They should focus on core areas like defense, international diplomacy and others.
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:40pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


Who is talking about communism?
Then perfect the system you have, instead of purporting to chase shadows, a bird in hand, is worth 2 in the bush.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:41pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:


You just reiterated the point that I have been trying to get across is that you people don’t understand the system of Government you practice in Nigeria.

Nobody understood the system of Government we practice in Nigeria and you are not doing a great job explaining it to me.
Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Rexwalters1: 6:42pm On Nov 26, 2021
Guestlander:


It is the other way my friend. The states should generate their money and give a certain percentage to the federal government.
The federal government should not be playing Father Christmas. They should focus on core areas like defense, international diplomacy and others.
Federal Government is forever Father Christmas, go figure grandpapa Joseph Biden & his 3 trillion dollars infrastructure bill.

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Re: POLITICS What IPOB, Yoruba Agitators Are Doing ‘ll Be Child’s Play. by Guestlander: 6:42pm On Nov 26, 2021
Rexwalters1:
Then perfect the system you have, instead of purporting to chase shadows, a bird in hand, is worth 2 in the bush.

That is exactly what we asking for and people like you keep asking mischievously "what is restructuring"
Pretending that you have no idea what it means.

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