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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Godons1: 1:32pm On Nov 26, 2021
Myexdisturbs:
I mean Benue is to the south east of river Niger together with kogi east senatorial district. So why are they not in south Eastern Nigeria?

Why is Anambra not an IGBO State? Anambra is in the North, cause it's IGALA ancestral State. All the wealthy men in the Anambra are IGALA by tribe
They only speak Igbo cause Igbo is the Language of trade in that Region. grin

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by KILLTHECOWS(f): 2:29pm On Nov 26, 2021
All in a bit to reduce south east population from both north and south..
Deny them of all resources..but God pass them and we must triumph..
We will never forget how they murdered ironsi.....as long as we are in Nigeria..

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by CrownOfClay724: 2:35pm On Nov 26, 2021
Muna4real:
I heard there are some igbo communities there, but because of their numbers, they are not popular and their voices are not heard.

True.

There is a recent exposé on that somewhere in this space.
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 2:36pm On Nov 26, 2021
KingEverest:
Culture and traditions I think, they are more closely related to Northerners than South or East, if you see some indigines of benue you won't even belive they are not Northerners

Kai stop the rough joke already. There's nothing Benue indigenes share in common with core northerners. If I may ask what are the similarities between them then?

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by CrownOfClay724: 2:36pm On Nov 26, 2021
Godons1:


Why is Anambra not an IGBO State? Anambra is in the North, cause it's IGALA ancestral State. All the wealthy men in the Anambra are IGALA by tribe
They only speak Igbo cause Igbo is the Language of trade in that Region. grin

Pelé o.

The hot sun probably don fry your brain grin

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 2:39pm On Nov 26, 2021
KingEverest:

Kwara case is different they share some Yoruba and hausa culture but benue has little similarities with east or south

Oga you should talk about what you only know. Benue state system of ruling is even similar to that of Igbo where the first son from every compound assembles for the village meeting

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 2:41pm On Nov 26, 2021
Ninety6:
A lot of them even look and sound like northerners.

What a lie just stop already. Even the way of ruling in the past was different and also religion

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 2:46pm On Nov 26, 2021
gidgiddy:


The colonial masters realised they were more of Northerners than Southerners and carved them into Northern Nigeria

Forget about this lie that they carved them into northern Nigeria. The map of Nigeria was made via conquest that's the places where uthman Dan Fodio fought his jihad war and reach those places were automatically referred to as northern Nigeria and not whatever lie they've said in the past that it was the colonial masters.
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Tingotoe: 2:49pm On Nov 26, 2021
kokoA:
This is not true. There's nothing northern about Benue. They share nothing similar with the north, they are all Christians, culturally they are unique as well. The Idoma's of Benue share more similarities in culture and tradition with the Igbos than any other ethnic group, they answer the same names and have the same market days with the Igbos. The Tivs on the other hand have very unique traditions peculiar to them alone.
just say you ibos want to grab their arable land for your unproductive Biafra so we can know where you're coming from

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 2:50pm On Nov 26, 2021
KingEverest:

i know that, but i have benue friends who speak hausa fluently if u see them u may not be able to different between them and hausas

So will you now say an Igbo man speaking hausa fluently is a hausa man? Please do your findings very well then you'll realize that Benue shares nothing in common with core northerners
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by headbasher96(m): 2:52pm On Nov 26, 2021
As a benue man living in onitsha only a few of u are making sense here the rest are just speaking based on lack of exposure u guys should travel more.

So that u will have a wider view of who is who in nigeria benue is no where near the core north but till date if i tell an onitsha man i am from benue he will call me ndi hausa because he has never left onitsha even as i am a catholic with my chaplet on my neck they still think am just faking christianity to leave with them the ibo think its only yoruba,igbo,and hausa that are in nigeria if u are not with them then u are with yoruba if u are not with yoruba u are an aboki no matter what u say ndi hausa is even like a insult here in anambara

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 2:54pm On Nov 26, 2021
helinues:
I think it's because of culture and tradition.

They are words and opposite to SE's own

You must be a joker, like on what aspect do you think the culture and tradition relates.
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 3:04pm On Nov 26, 2021
gidgiddy:


Dont be fooled by Benue people. There may be people in the lower Benue such as Benue Igbos, Igede and lower Idoma who dont behave like Northerners

But by and large, the are Northerners and have Northern mentality

Its just because the have been slaughtered by herdsmen in recent years that they have started to have a rethink

The clamoring for middle belt started long ago during the time of J. S. Tarka and not today. Benue state has never been a northern state if not for political reasons. The Nigerian map is supposed to be divided along latitude and longitude lines but unfortunately it isn't, so I tell you boldly that Benue state and kwara state were only included due to the fact that Uthman Dan Fodio fought in their land so by conquest they feel those states belong to the north which is a blatant lie and broad day mago mago
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by TooMuchStuff: 3:06pm On Nov 26, 2021
Benue and Taraba.
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by helinues: 3:22pm On Nov 26, 2021
Prolific007:


You must be a joker, like on what aspect do you think the culture and tradition relates.

Read and comprehend
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Godons1: 3:31pm On Nov 26, 2021
CrownOfClay724:


Pelé o.

The hot sun probably don fry your brain grin

When the North finally give Biafra their independence, they will only leave with their 4 ancestral States. Namely; Enugu, Imo, Abia and Ebonyi States. Anambra will remain in the North.

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by orisa37: 3:32pm On Nov 26, 2021
Benue State is a South East Zone State. In a 42 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES STRUCTURE, BENUE STATE WILL BE IN THE SE ZONE.

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Myexdisturbs: 3:34pm On Nov 26, 2021
headbasher96:
As a benue man living in onitsha only a few of u are making sense here the rest are just speaking based on lack of exposure u guys should travel more.

So that u will have a wider view of who is who in nigeria benue is no where near the core north but till date if i tell an onitsha man i am from benue he will call me ndi hausa because he has never left onitsha even as i am a catholic with my chaplet on my neck they still think am just faking christianity to leave with them the ibo think its only yoruba,igbo,and hausa that are in nigeria if u are not with them then u are with yoruba if u are not with yoruba u are an aboki no matter what u say ndi hausa is even like a insult here in anambara
Anambra is my state though but we're the most tribalistic amongst other igbos, I won't deny this fact

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by 00FFT00(m): 3:43pm On Nov 26, 2021
KingEverest:

Kwara case is different they share some Yoruba and hausa culture but benue has little similarities with east or south

Really?.

Idoma and Igede have similarities with Hausa and fulani ko?
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Badonasty(m): 3:46pm On Nov 26, 2021
I think history should be reintroduced to the school curriculum....even South Africa with its apartheid history still teach it in schools
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 3:52pm On Nov 26, 2021
The Tiv tribe of Benue state has their own unique culture and tradition. They were mostly hunters and warriors in the olden days. The man name Tiv was a hunter whom is believed to have migrated from where in South Africa or Congo and it is said they're the lineage of the Bantu. Religiously the tribe idoma is even more northern that the Tiv tribe because they were conquered to an extent that's why Agatu people are mostly Muslims and practice islam but you can't say thesame for the Tivs since it's even forbidden for any of the tribe men to convert to islam talk more of practicing it in the family. If not for the fact that the Tivs fought for this place we call Benue state today they wouldn't have been any state here like this, because the first ruler sardauna of sokoto appointed was a fulani man and his son Audu took over from him which is why they usually call makurdi "town of Audu".

Makir Zakpe and some other two Tiv men were Brittain soldiers so the then queen of England told them to travel home and see how far their own people are faring and that was how these soldiers came back to Benue and discovered that it was a Muslim man that was imposed on the people of Benue state. They got angry and travelled to meet with sardauna of sokoto so he could let the people choose their own king, so that was how sardauna told them he will resolve the matter but he didn't travelled to Benue state and never cared so after a couple of weeks these brave soldiers stormed the Muslim king's palace and swipe out everybody there and later took the king's body and threw it in the river Benue.

So they came back and asked for the people to choose their king but they were all scared and they told them to choose from among themselves so since Makir Zakpe was the most senior soldiers he was made the first king of Benue state and the people relocated his palace from makurdi to Gboko because makurdi is too close to the water body and that anything can happen.

The other ill treatment core northerners gave to the Tiv tribe is by saying that the capital of Benue state is otukpo but that was reversed by Gowon during his time as head of state, and these happened just because it was a Tiv man that trained Gowon in school so he felt he was indepted to them.

Even the son of Uthman Dan Fodio whom was the leader of his jihad war was killed in Benue state even Queen Amina of Zaria was killed in Benue too by Tiv tribe so the north hates the Tivs in all ramifications because they shattered their plans, if not for that intervention they would have been more Muslims in South East and South South than it is now.

I am a proud Tiv man and a proud middle-belter. Shalom

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by oyatz(m): 4:05pm On Nov 26, 2021
gidgiddy:


The colonial masters realised they were more of Northerners than Southerners and carved them into Northern Nigeria

Wrong sir.


The boundaries were drawn largely based on the fancy and feelings of the colonial Masters.
It had nothing to do with culture (the North has many different cultures).
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Sonyboom765: 4:07pm On Nov 26, 2021
Here we go again with igbo as a tribe not being able to sleep in the night or day because of a tall Yoruba giant they envy but can't rival it success wisdom or glory.

How a thread questioning similarities of Benue state btw the north n Igbos became involved with the tall Yoruba giant ghost that give foolish n God forsaken cursed Igbo nightmare is what I can not explain.


koondog:
Most of the people replying above and claiming Benue people share more in common with Northerners are typical Yorubas. They don't travel, nor do they know Benue people and are quick to separate people from SE. Same way they do to the Ibibio and Efik, all because the they hate Igbos. Yorubas, stop this evil and division you causing.

I grew up in Benue, let me tell you, there is nothing in common between Benue people and core North. Idomas share more with Igbos than their fellow state's men and women, the Tiv, the largest ethnic group with 12 local government areas. The Tiv share more in common with Taraba and Nasarrawa people since they border those states or people, but again, those people in Taraba and Nasarawa are not core North. The Idoma, Etulo, Igede and Igbos on the south side of the state, share more in common with Igbos and control 8 local government areas.

In fact, there is not much difference between Igbo and Idoma. They look alike, share same culture and tradition, same market days and Idomas have Igbo middle names like Ochefu, Onyenefu, Oyinye, Eche, Acha, Agada, Alechenu, Udoka, Ochogwu, Acholonu, Agbo, e.t.c. I can tell the difference in looks between idomas and Tiv, because they are not the same people. Tiv people tend to be mostly dark to very dark skin and have smaller body frame. While Idomas are more like Igbos, they have dark skin, have light skin, have brown skin and are well built and muscular like Igbos.

Idoma people and last pic is Kanu!

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by haffaze777(m): 4:18pm On Nov 26, 2021
Sonyboom765:
Here we go again with igbo as a tribe not being able to sleep in the night or day because of a tall Yoruba giant they envy but can't rival it success wisdom or glory.

How a thread questioning similarities of Benue state btw the north n Igbos became involved with the tall Yoruba giant ghost that give foolish n God forsaken cursed Igbo nightmare is what I can not explain.


Mkpurumiri dey worry that one

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by headbasher96(m): 5:35pm On Nov 26, 2021
Myexdisturbs:

Anambra is my state though but we're the most tribalistic amongst other igbos, I won't deny this fact
i typical anambara man wont even love an enugu igbo man 100%

If only there was 100% unison the current seccesion would have been fruitful a long time ago but rather alot of them only support it in the public while behind they always condemn it

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by thatigboman1: 5:38pm On Nov 26, 2021
yammz:
As an idoma man, traditionally and culturally i have more in common with the igbos than any other tribe in nigeria including the tiv. We have nothing in common with the north and i do not see myself as a northerner. Our culture and traditions are unique on it's own.
God bless you.
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by thatigboman1: 5:47pm On Nov 26, 2021
headbasher96:
As a benue man living in onitsha only a few of u are making sense here the rest are just speaking based on lack of exposure u guys should travel more.

So that u will have a wider view of who is who in nigeria benue is no where near the core north but till date if i tell an onitsha man i am from benue he will call me ndi hausa because he has never left onitsha even as i am a catholic with my chaplet on my neck they still think am just faking christianity to leave with them the ibo think its only yoruba,igbo,and hausa that are in nigeria if u are not with them then u are with yoruba if u are not with yoruba u are an aboki no matter what u say ndi hausa is even like a insult here in anambara
that's how my granny was gisting me of my cousin that married an hausa woman. I say "ma, no, she's Tiv" the woman started abusing me o. I say nawa.
They should have matched tivs in benue, nassarawa and taraba to form a state and match idoma and igede to form another state.

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by thatigboman1: 5:52pm On Nov 26, 2021
Prolific007:


The clamoring for middle belt started long ago during the time of J. S. Tarka and not today. Benue state has never been a northern state if not for political reasons. The Nigerian map is supposed to be divided along latitude and longitude lines but unfortunately it isn't, so I tell you boldly that Benue state and kwara state were only included due to the fact that Uthman Dan Fodio fought in their land so by conquest they feel those states belong to the north which is a blatant lie and broad day mago mago
uthman Dan folio never conquered benue.
Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by headbasher96(m): 5:53pm On Nov 26, 2021
thatigboman1:
that's how my granny was gisting me of my cousin that married an hausa woman. I say "ma, no, she's Tiv" the woman started abusing me o. I say nawa.
They should have matched tivs in benue, nassarawa and taraba to form a state and match idoma and igede to form another state.
idoma and igede combine cant make a state sir because igede will still feel cheated

U know the actual problem behind that scenario is just lack of exposure if u have travel the country far and wide u have a more wider view and your mentality is different from those that have not traveled to anywhere

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by Prolific007(m): 7:13pm On Nov 26, 2021
thatigboman1:
uthman Dan folio never conquered benue.

I never said he conquered Benue, what I said was that northern Nigeria is designated by virtue of the places where jihad war was fought so Benue state stood to be the last place they invaded but unfortunately they lost. Kwara state which is more inclined to the west was still designated northern Nigeria because jihad was fought there and in their case they lost the war

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by ArewaNorth: 8:17pm On Nov 26, 2021
kokoA:
This is not true. There's nothing northern about Benue. They share nothing similar with the north, they are all Christians, culturally they are unique as well. The Idoma's of Benue share more similarities in culture and tradition with the Igbos than any other ethnic group, they answer the same names and have the same market days with the Igbos. The Tivs on the other hand have very unique traditions peculiar to them alone.
I don't know why u see religion as regional identity? This is myopic, uncivilised thinking!
There is no part of Northern Nigeria that we don't have Christians, seeing Christianity as regional identity is absurdity to the highest order.
Benue is very vast, t is bounded on the south by Cross River, Ebonyi, and Enugu states, on the west by Kogi state, on the North by Nassawara state, and on the northeast by Taraba state. Only primitive, unexposed, ethno-religious jingoist can use religion as regional identity in Nigeria.

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Re: Why Is Benue Not A South Eastern State by jude79(m): 9:04pm On Nov 26, 2021
Prolific007:
The Tiv tribe of Benue state has their own unique culture and tradition. They were mostly hunters and warriors in the olden days. The man name Tiv was a hunter whom is believed to have migrated from where in South Africa or Congo and it is said they're the lineage of the Bantu. Religiously the tribe idoma is even more northern that the Tiv tribe because they were conquered to an extent that's why Agatu people are mostly Muslims and practice islam but you can't say thesame for the Tivs since it's even forbidden for any of the tribe men to convert to islam talk more of practicing it in the family. If not for the fact that the Tivs fought for this place we call Benue state today they wouldn't have been any state here like this, because the first ruler sardauna of sokoto appointed was a fulani man and his son Audu took over from him which is why they usually call makurdi "town of Audu".

Makir Zakpe and some other two Tiv men were Brittain soldiers so the then queen of England told them to travel home and see how far their own people are faring and that was how these soldiers came back to Benue and discovered that it was a Muslim man that was imposed on the people of Benue state. They got angry and travelled to meet with sardauna of sokoto so he could let the people choose their own king, so that was how sardauna told them he will resolve the matter but he didn't travelled to Benue state and never cared so after a couple of weeks these brave soldiers stormed the Muslim king's palace and swipe out everybody there and later took the king's body and threw it in the river Benue.

So they came back and asked for the people to choose their king but they were all scared and they told them to choose from among themselves so since Makir Zakpe was the most senior soldiers he was made the first king of Benue state and the people relocated his palace from makurdi to Gboko because makurdi is too close to the water body and that anything can happen.

The other ill treatment core northerners gave to the Tiv tribe is by saying that the capital of Benue state is otukpo but that was reversed by Gowon during his time as head of state, and these happened just because it was a Tiv man that trained Gowon in school so he felt he was indepted to them.

Even the son of Uthman Dan Fodio whom was the leader of his jihad war was killed in Benue state even Queen Amina of Zaria was killed in Benue too by Tiv tribe so the north hates the Tivs in all ramifications because they shattered their plans, if not for that intervention they would have been more Muslims in South East and South South than it is now.

I am a proud Tiv man and a proud middle-belter. Shalom

I'm Igbo, but like all igbos, I know that what you posted up there is the truth and nothing but the truth. Shalom.

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