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EgunMogaji2:
Is there as such as a perfect architectural plan?

Over the past few weeks some have submitted plans and not one wasn’t amended.

Yes, there is a perfect plan.

A perfect plan must demonstrate three non-negotiable elements:

#1. FLOW: a perfect plan must have a flow. No be kitchen dey Zungeru and dining dey Odogbolu. Or toilet dey Isiala-Ngwa North and bedroom dey Kokori. So after having your bath, you travel the length and breadth of the whole house just to get to the bedroom to change.

#2. SUNLIGHT: Every space MUST benefit from sunlight. This means no dead or redundant spaces or dark and dingy corners.

#3. VENTILATION: Every space SHOULD benefit from natural ventilation.

Any plan that demonstrates the above elements is a perfect plan. Any other nuances like all ensuite, visitors toilet, prayer room, kitchenette, etc are just personal preferences unique to the individual or our they live. So every plan will face calls for changes because we are different in our experiences, our we interpret life (reality), and how we live.

twinskenny:
We testing:
Whole house audio powered by Russound
Intercom
3 screen video door bell
Smart lighting
Cctv
Fire alarm
All strip lights are smart as well


Pop done by Dominionng

#Abeokuta

House warming coming soon. Happy client

God bless whoever did this pop.

spyder880:


Thank you my man, the only reason why I am still on the field building houses is because of my desire to keep youths off the streets. Get as many youths engaged in different skills that can change their financial fortunes and make our society a better place. I am happy for you and many other youths who get busy daily to make an honest living.

One day, I will gather the courage to tell the stories of how many wars I have fought in different projects just because I didn't settle the people who felt I should settle them. Nigeria is a very strong place.

from all of us who have in one way or another benefitted from your generosity both in wealth of experience and your financial upliftment, I say thank you and God bless you sir

diordaves:


Yes, there is a perfect plan.

A perfect plan must demonstrate three non-negotiable elements:

#1. FLOW: a perfect plan must have a flow. No be kitchen dey Zungeru and dining dey Odogbolu. Or toilet dey Isiala-Ngwa North and bedroom dey Kokori. So after having your bath, you travel the length and breadth of the whole house just to get to the bedroom to change.

#2. SUNLIGHT: Every space MUST benefit from sunlight. This means no dead or redundant spaces or dark and dingy corners.

#3. VENTILATION: Every space SHOULD benefit from natural ventilation.

Any plan that demonstrates the above elements is a perfect plan. Any other nuances like all ensuite, visitors toilet, prayer room, kitchenette, etc are just personal preferences unique to the individual or our they live. So every plan will face calls for changes because we are different in our experiences, our we interpret life (reality), and how we live.

Excellent.

I have never seen a plan submit on here for criticism that passed with flying colors.

Because most clients here go for cheap baba lati drawing draftmen....

Tell them to patronise us the proffesionals for their Structural drawings... they say you are too expensive ...

Nairaland is another city entirely....

hamtabfawaz:


Some Engineers Actually do this! They extort every Contractor , Artisans & and vendors who comes to their site. If you don't give them what they want, they will Paint you & your job badly to the owner.

A good topic for discussion tho.

Should Engineers / Architect /(People Very closely related to the owner) seek ishakole or egunje from Contractors, Artisans & vendors?!!

I know you don't mean to say professional Engineers and Architect...

I know you mean them baba lati that callls themselves engineers...

we always cutting corners in this country...

Cos we Engineers knows how risky our Licence is to us.... Compromising with contractor isnt in our profession....

You can see the way the consultant left note of leaving site for the 21 story building when the developer wanted to proof smart that eventually lead to his death...

Next time... Ask for the licence number of the engineer... if he misbehave, call attention of the professional body like NSE or Coren... he or she will be sanction appropriately...

Thanks... Engr. Gbenga

House, please I need insight into how many bags of cement can plaster my current kobokoko project. ( Interior and exterior).

And what I should be looking at labor-wise.

(4 bedroom duplex - Most of you are aware).

Note:

I intend skipping some parts of the front house due to the designs to be done there. The artisan told me not to bother plastering these places to avoid double cost.

Thanks in advance.

micgray100:


I know you don't mean to say professional Engineers and Architect...

I know you mean them baba lati that callls themselves engineers...

we always cutting corners in this country...

Cos we Engineers knows how risky our Licence is to us.... Compromising with contractor isnt in our profession....

You can see the way the consultant left note of leaving site for the 21 story building when the developer wanted to proof smart that eventually lead to his death...

Next time... Ask for the licence number of the engineer... if he misbehave, call attention of the professional body like NSE or Coren... he or she will be sanction appropriately...

Thanks... Engr. Gbenga

So na baba lati built Ikoyi Collapsed Building?? How many has been sanctioned so far?

KolaShangOne:
What do you think could be responsible??

The answer is quite straight forward though.

First external beams or lintel should always run around the building in the form of a Link...
We should not just put small iron on the window and expect it to stand..

Secondly.. The blocks might not be solid enough to even support the beam or it self weight..

Thirdly is bad foundation type used which may result to differential settlement...

Please .. Use services of professionals...
it won't cost you much...
penny wise, pounds foolish..
we like to cut corners in this country..

Safe.

Engr. Gbenga

sonnie10:
God bless whoever did this pop.

lol what if the guy that did the lighting?

n3xt:


So na baba lati built Ikoyi Collapsed Building?? How many has been sanctioned so far?

From the letter that circulated on social media, the structural engineer strongly excuse his services from site at the 4 floor level of the collapse building..

The one he didn't supervise was the one that collapse...

Bros.. you know better .. Quality Control in such site must be maximum...

Everyone cut corners... it take discipline and commitments on site... Even my new IT students tried to cut corners on my site.. I have to send them packing... I don't take nonsense o...

on the question on sanctions so far.. Let us wait for the report... I know the Engr that supervise TB joshua church collapse was sanctioned.. He was even a petroleum engineer.. He was dealt with vigorously which even lead to his untimely death...
The professional body have woken up.. this can not continue....

Engr. Gbenga..

twinskenny:
lol what if the guy that did the lighting?

You are doing well Sir.

Thank you very much sir for taking your time to check, this is the pdf file

BrickDevo:

Upload a better one, the image is not clear enough, but at a glance i can see some errors.

Gigaset:
Thank you very much sir for taking your time to check, this is the pdf file

the design is not that bad, might need some rearrangements, i feel some rooms are too narrow and should have more than one window, Room 01, 02, 03, the users might feel a bit uncomfortable, but that depends if you will have constant electricity and provide Artificial means of ventilation, if the kitchen can be swapped with the room 03 better so you can put window adjacent to each other. A total of 4 rooms and only one is cross ventilated, that is not good.

For the mosque i don't know much about it.
Even as it is the plan would work but natural ventilation would be lacking.

micgray100:


From the letter that circulated on social media, the structural engineer strongly excuse his services from site at the 4 floor level of the collapse building..

The one he didn't supervise was the one that collapse...

Bros.. you know better .. Quality Control in such site must be maximum...

Everyone cut corners... it take discipline and commitments on site... Even my new IT students tried to cut corners on my site.. I have to send them packing... I don't take nonsense o...

on the question on sanctions so far.. Let us wait for the report... I know the Engr that supervise TB joshua church collapse was sanctioned.. He was even a petroleum engineer.. He was dealt with vigorously which even lead to his untimely death...
The professional body have woken up.. this can not continue....

Engr. Gbenga..

I get your point and this is the reason why no one would take most professional bodies in Nigeria too serious.

How many 21 floor buildings do we have in Nigeria that all our professional bodies will start feigning ignorance and shifting blames?
Let me put it straight, you cannot count up to 2 scores of such building in Nigeria.
Even the almighty cocoa house in Ibadan is just 26 floors.

I think the professional and the regulatory bodies should first admit the fact that they’re all guilty of dereliction of duty. Everyone is just looking for food to eat.

post=108011949:
the design is not that bad, might need some rearrangements, i feel some rooms are too narrow and should have more than one window, Room 01, 02, 03, the users might feel a bit uncomfortable, but that depends if you will have constant electricity and provide Artificial means of ventilation, if the kitchen can be swapped with the room 03 better so you can put window adjacent to each other. A total of 4 rooms and only one is cross ventilated, that is not good.

For the mosque i don't know much about it.
Even as it is the plan would work but natural ventilation would be lacking.

I rest my case

EgunMogaji2:


Excellent.

I have never seen a plan submit on here for criticism that passed with flying colors.

Lol...

Different views,different perspective...
That's the reason why a 'flying colored' building plan can't be seen here!

EgunMogaji2:


I rest my case

Perspective differs as professionals... Even me.. I can still say something...

1, I will advice you isolate the entrance from the mosque to the main louge.. for security reasons.. let the entrance door be the only entrance to the main house... Mosque is free for all...

2, the gym room should be well ventilated... the located isn't right..

My two cents...

Engr. Gbenga

n3xt:


I get your point and this is the reason why no one would take most professional bodies in Nigeria too serious.

How many 21 floor buildings do we have in Nigeria that all our professional bodies will start feigning ignorance and shifting blames?
Let me put it straight, you cannot count up to 2 scores of such building in Nigeria.
Even the almighty cocoa house in Ibadan is just 26 floors.

I think the professional and the regulatory bodies should first admit the fact that they’re all guilty of dereliction of duty. Everyone is just looking for food to eat.

Bros.. I get your point...we the professionals have given the developers and clients too much power to hire and fire at will in building projects...

The mistake of the consultant engineer is not informing the Lagos State building authority and professional body when he left site..

But to point the blame fully.. I will wait for the report...

I am sure we have all learnt our mistakes...

Nairaland front page news, Engineer hand amputated due to poor safety on site....

https://www.nairaland.com/6869218/company-punishes-protesting-staff-late

EgunMogaji2:
Is there as such as a perfect architectural plan?

Over the past few weeks some have submitted plans and not one wasn’t amended.

Not, it can never be perfect.
Criticism will always arise.
An architect only needs to deliver the best.

EgunMogaji2:


Excellent.

I have never seen a plan submit on here for criticism that passed with flying colors.

Yeah. You are right about this.
It's possible.
But those that have engaged architects here always ended up as happy clients.

Please can you sketch or show a 3 bedroom plan with the non negotiable elements, especially point 2 (sun light at the corridor)
Regards

diordaves:

Yes, there is a perfect plan.

A perfect plan must demonstrate three non-negotiable elements:

#1. FLOW: a perfect plan must have a flow. No be kitchen dey Zungeru and dining dey Odogbolu. Or toilet dey Isiala-Ngwa North and bedroom dey Kokori. So after having your bath, you travel the length and breadth of the whole house just to get to the bedroom to change.

#2. SUNLIGHT: Every space MUST benefit from sunlight. This means no dead or redundant spaces or dark and dingy corners.

#3. VENTILATION: Every space SHOULD benefit from natural ventilation.

Any plan that demonstrates the above elements is a perfect plan. Any other nuances like all ensuite, visitors toilet, prayer room, kitchenette, etc are just personal preferences unique to the individual or our they live. So every plan will face calls for changes because we are different in our experiences, our we interpret life (reality), and how we live.

micgray100:


First external beams or lintel should always run around the building in the form of a Link...
We should not just put small iron on the window and expect it to stand..

Secondly.. The blocks might not be solid enough to even support the beam or it self weight..

Thirdly is bad foundation type used which may result to differential settlement...

Please .. Use services of professionals...
it won't cost you much...
penny wise, pounds foolish..
we like to cut corners in this country..

Safe.

Engr. Gbenga

Lol. Okay sir.

Gigaset:
Thank you very much sir for taking your time to check, this is the pdf file

This plan is not originally Nigerian. I want to believe it's a converted one.
* Mosque, gym, rm 1,2, hallway ain't ventilated enough but I believe this house will be powered steadily for ventilation purpose.
* Study too close to lounge for me except you doing sound proof.
* I have to travel through the hallway before getting to the lounge or is there any other access to the lounge
* Mosque access from outside too close to the main entrance n I believe the mosque is for the immediate family and probably domestic staffs only otherwise u need to consider security

Well, if the house will be powered 24/7, the only issue I will will be traveling to access the lounge.
Not a bad design though guessing where it's coming from.

Horlardorjah:


This plan is not originally Nigerian. I want to believe it's a converted one.
* Mosque, gym, rm 1,2, hallway ain't ventilated enough but I believe this house will be powered steadily for ventilation purpose.
* Study too close to lounge for me except you doing sound proof.
* I have to travel through the hallway before getting to the lounge or is there any other access to the lounge
* Mosque access from outside too close to the main entrance n I believe the mosque is for the immediate family and probably domestic staffs only otherwise u need to consider security

Well, if the house will be powered 24/7, the only issue I will will be traveling to access the lounge.
Not a bad design though guessing where it's coming from.

Consider security with mosque ??

As in ??

sonnie10:

You are doing well Sir.

thanks sir

EgunMogaji2:


Consider security with mosque ??

As in ??

If it's open to outsiders and there is still an access door to the main building from there. It's as good as pretending to come for prayers and with matchet forcing occupant to move in also there will surely be a day or even days that the door will be left unlocked from inside by occupants unintentionally n I can just try my luck opening it to access the house.
My thoughts though

My snake in the house experience.

There is a small bath basin, don't think the proper name for it is bath tub: small enough to stand in but not big enough to lie in. I'm sure the description is clear enough to get.

Turns out the finishing between it and the wall/the rest of the bathroom floor was degraded. It was through that space that a snake came into the bathroom/toilet and from there into the house, which thankfully I was able to see as it left the bathroom for one of the rooms.

After the snake was killed, I investigated further.

The bath basin lay on sand, there was no DPC and there was no proper German floor.

The chamber was on the other side of the bathroom wall.

So the snake found its way into either the soakaway or the chamber and from there into the house.

Remediation: built a 6 inch high German floor in the bathroom and thoroughly sealed the point where the floor meets the wall.

Afterthought: It is a very good idea to incorporate DPC into builds and make a thick enough German floor.

Looks like they made a very light mortar paste on the floor and then set up the bath basin and the tiles.

But I then eliminated that bath basin from the bathroom/toilet.

I also think that the bathroom is not the place to economize on the cement to sand ratio given that that area sees a lot of water.

EgunMogaji2:


Excellent.

I have never seen a plan submit on here for criticism that passed with flying colors.

There’s one that seemed perfect, i actually downloaded it for reference purposes