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Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by deekseen(m): 3:22pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: God bless you too, brother. 1 Like |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 3:23pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
[s] BMathew:[/s] You said the age of death is the age humans qualify for heaven/hell. 1. If a human dies after 6 months what happens? 2. If a human dies after 75 years, what happens? Waiting... 4 Likes |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by BMathew: 5:03pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
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Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:01pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:There is no age specification to Heaven or Hell... it is strictly by deeds. According to Jesus Christ, at least 2 major rules to be concerned with here ■ You have to be born-again to make it through either of the two gates which lead into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8. : There are two gates into the Kingdom ; a broad gate which leads to eternal destruction and a narrow Gate which leads to True Life- Matthew 7 vs 13 - 15 & Luke 14 vs 25 - 33. ■ the Kingdom of Heaven is only for those who change and become like little children - Matthew 18 vs 2 - 4. It does not matter whether you are 10-years old or 55-years old, only those who become like little children will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. So basically, Heaven is not about age since as Jesus Christ said, Heaven is for those who are born-again and are like little children. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:02pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:There is no such thing as a cut-off age for humans to make Heaven or hell. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 6:03pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
[s] Kobojunkie:[/s] If there isn't, how did you arrive at the conclusion that babies are not qualified for heaven/hell? 4 Likes |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:07pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
BMathew:That is because Jesus Christ made it known to us that no one will be sent back from the dead to warn the Living, the lesson of the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16 vs 19 - 31 1 Like |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:07pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
BMathew:Wrong! Heaven and Hell is not about age but of deeds or lack there of. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:13pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
deekseen:The Bible does not state that we are all born sinners. That suggestion is made in Paul's letter which was written primarily to an audience of Jewish believers. All gentiles are born dead to the law which defines sin so we cannot be said to have sinned. Instead we are born condemned to die, cursed by the God's judgment in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22, the condemnation of Sin which is death. It is only when we then accept Jesus Christ that we are then redeemed from the curse and reborn into eternal life under law - John 3 vs 16 - 18 - the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. 1 Like |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:55pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kingpin1000:1. God already made known to you what sin is and what is not over 2000 years ago when He gave you Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God. In the Law which is contained in the details of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments, He gave you about 100 definitions of sin. 2. Instead, what Jesus Christ told you is that the two greatest commandments of the Old Covenant Law, of which the one you quoted is one of them, is the culmination of the Old Covenant Law of Moses - Matthew 22 vs 36 - 40 - which God gave to the people of Isreal, those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through through vains. - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 Jesus Christ also told you that those who Love Him are those who obey His commandments(plural), and those who are His friends are those who do as He asks. So I suggest you go back send read the Gospels to learn of all the other commandments that Jesus Christ in fact gave you and makes up the New Covenant Law, the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.. 3. Even the disciples knew while they were here on earth that they had indeed made it in through the Narrow Gate that leads into the Kindom of Heaven. Jesus Christ told then of this long before the day of Pentecost. The same Jesus Christ also taught us that by their fruits we shall know those who belong to Him from those who are not of Him. If you are not sure that you are headed for Heaven, this because the Spirit of Truth(Jesus Christ) bears witness of this to your soul and in your life and action, then be sure you are not headed in the right direction at all. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 7:01pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W post=108008677[b:According to Jesus Christ, those who belong to Him, those who love Him, are those who live in submission to and obedience to His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25 - these are those who are become Sons of God - John 8 vs 31 - 44 and these very same He bears witness of. His entry commandment is that we be born-again- John 3 vs 1- 8 - and this in order to gain access to the Kingdom of God where His Law we are then live by and Trust in. And it is in doing so that we become like children, even in our thinking - Matthew 18 vs 3 |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 7:04pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
deekseen:Wrong! The only "iron" of that kind to Sharpen those who are in the Kingdom of God and who belong to Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ Himself. He is the one and only Teacher, Mentor, Head/Master, Authority, Shepherd etc., over those who belong to Him. No one else has authority to sharpen any one who belongs to Him. Jesus Christ is the only standard His followers are called to Live by. 1 Like |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 7:09pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:This isn't rock science at this point! Babies are not old enough to comprehend the concept of being born-again, so they cannot enter into the Kingdom of God, hence there is no Heaven or Hell for them. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pr0ton: 7:52pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: You guys just keep on ridiculing yourselves. How can you a Christian openly say you disregard some verses in the Bible because they contradict the words of Jesus? You have, on one hand, admitted there are contradictions in the Bible. And on the other hand made a joke of yourself by implying you still believe the Bible anyway even if there are instructions/doctrines in it that are not true (or to be disregarded). You want to cherry pick verses in the Bible that suit your own belief (because you're a pastor). Can you now see that you have exposed yourself as a scam or as someone who doesn't know what he is doing? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 8:06pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: So at how many months/years do babies start qualifying for hell/heaven? 1 Like |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pr0ton: 8:08pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I don't think you have solved anything here. You mentioned gentiles are born condemned to die and it is only when you accept Jesus Christ that you are redeemed and given eternal life. How is this different from saying everyone is born condemned to hell and would only get eternal life if they accept Jesus? 3 Likes |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:09pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:Is comprehension suddenly an issue? Again, Babies are incapable of grasping the concept of being born-again, or of the New Covenant Law, so they cannot enter into the Kingdom of God, hence there is no Heaven or Hell for them |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:16pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Pr0ton:1. I wasn't attempting to solve a problem but clear up a scriptural fact. 2. According to Jesus Christ, you have to be born-again in order to gain access to the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell await you depending on the gate you enter through- Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 and Luke 14 vs 25 - 33. Only those who have eternal life(born from spirit) can occupy the Kingdom of God.. Those who do not accept Jesus Christ, continue without eternal life, condemned to perish in the grave - John 3 vs 16 - 18 - just as they were from the beginning - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 8:24pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
[s] Kobojunkie:[/s] 1. At what age do humans become eligible to enter heaven/hell? 2. Where do those babies' souls go since you just said they cannot enter heaven/hell? Please don't run away 1 Like |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:26pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:You are told that age has nothing to do with heaven or Hell, yet you continue to ask the question, why? |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:26pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:1. You are told that age has nothing to do with heaven or Hell, yet you continue to ask the question, why? 2. The soul of babies perish, cease to exist when they die. The soul of unbelievers perish, cease to exist wen they die - there is no Heaven or Hell for unbelievers - babies among them.. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 8:28pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
[s] Kobojunkie:[/s] According to you, age does as a matter of fact. You said babies cannot enter heaven/hell because they are not aware of the concept. So at what age do humans begin to grasp a concept of heaven/hell (which in turn means the age which they start qualifying for heaven/hell)?? Answer please |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 8:28pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pr0ton: 8:28pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Then you agree babies are born condemned to perish in the grave. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:29pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:I never said age matters so you must be confusing me with someone else. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:30pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Pr0ton:Exactly as God deemed it so since the beginning- Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 8:30pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Is there a scriptural reference for this? 2. If you are saying that the soul ceases to exist, it means that God can actually avoid sending other souls to suffer in Hell but chooses to do so anyway? Please confirm this detail |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by KillIgbohoN0W: 8:31pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: So what matters? State it clearly so we are all on the same page. Please no epistles. Just state it. Thanks. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:33pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:1. Yes, read the book of Genesis, and then Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and you will learn of this. 2. Huh? |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:36pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
KillIgbohoN0W:According to Jesus Christ, at least 2 major rules to be concerned with here are : ■ You have to be born-again to make it through either of the two gates which lead into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8. : There are two gates into the Kingdom ; a broad gate which leads to eternal destruction and a narrow Gate which leads to True Life- Matthew 7 vs 13 - 15 & Luke 14 vs 25 - 33. ■ the Kingdom of Heaven is only for those who change and become like little children - Matthew 18 vs 2 - 4. It does not matter whether you are 10-years old or 55-years old, only those are born-again and are like little children will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pr0ton: 8:39pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Now I understand what you're trying to get out is that babies don't go to hell (as in a forever burning place) but rather cease to exist. What would you say about Bible verses that talk about sinners going to a forever burning place? |
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 8:41pm On Nov 27, 2021 |
Pr0ton:Hell is a place of eternal damnation just as Jesus Christ Himself said in Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46. I believe in Jesus Christ so I believe His Word is Truth. |
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