OfoIgbo:


The dictionary is not really a definitive proof.

In the Igbo dictionary, you may even see TEBULU, as meaning TABLE in English.

I need to know whether there are Ijaw towns that exist outside Rivers and Bayelsa state, with AMA as a part of their names.

It will definitely prove that AMA is a word Igbos share with Ijaws.

Alabo7978:

Shut up, I read that stuff, the writer only flatly said the above kings are ibos.
It didn't show a testimony from the kings saying they were Igbo themselves.
So if I say you're from Ghana, and I publish it, does it mean you're Ghanaian?
Show a personal testimony, I repeat SHOW A PERSONAL TESTIMONY.

JANK23H:


That is enough proof.It's a common word among all Ijaw clans.
Olodiama(Edo),Gbaramatu(meaning:people of Gbarau town/village) and Kabiama in Delta state,Ukparama in Ondo etc.There are so many to list.A lot of Ijaw villages have "Ama" or "Biri" attached to them.

ThickSharon123:



In summary, you guys are suffering from post civil war syndrome. And here's the analysis.

"Post civil war syndrome": a mental construct which makes a particular groupf of people become paranoid with every little information they get from the opposition to continue the trend they were set in.

This is to say, when the Nigerian Navy were instructed to prevent Igbos from having sea, becuase that was some of the means they could get milk and proteinous diet. The Ijaws found it their responsibility to do the same as soon as the Igbos got back to Nigeria.

They now find it their responsibility to still prevent the Igbos from having that access, because they believe this is still the civil war.

What you guys need is some form of reorientation, because living like this would only place you people below poverty and anguish. So, dear one, stop following the mental disabilities of your forefathers, you can change the trend and set a pace for yourself.

Alabo7978:

I am not being clever you dunce. The British were the ones who changed alot of pronunciation and spellings due to their tongue.
Okolo-ama it is, okolo-ama in ndoki was the camp settlement of the okoloama people. Asimini wedded his daughter to an ndoki man to Foster trade relations with them and the place she settled with some of Asimini men was called or named Okoloama after them but the British came and corrupted it.
Same way N'enu-ugwu was corrupted to Enugu.
Infact many names were corrupted. Stop being stupid.
OKOLOMA is okolo-ama.
If it was Igbo, it would have been NOTED ON THE DOCUMENT, BUT THE DOCUMENTS CLEARLY SHOWED THEY WERE DIFFERENT DIALECT.

OfoIgbo:


But both Captain Crow and Dr. Baikie in their unrelated works, both confirmed the Pepples were of Igbo ancestry.

So you want us to abandon this fact, because it doesn't sit well with your tales

Eastlink:
For those interested, click the link below for the source.
https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=9E_zDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=king+pepple+from+pepper&source=bl&ots=fGTkP8XETD&sig=ACfU3U3KYZCi8LewH_2n4RAw0jGOPy_3Xw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTm7emosjyAhXxA2MBHVIxCf0Q6AF6BAg1EAI#v=onepage&q&f=true

You can also check below for the Nairaland thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/6716756/evidence-king-pepple-got-name

9Pluto:



Thanks for your kind updates.

Ekealterego:

Brother, quit the lies, Okloma in Ndoki is one of their oldest settlements. Ndoki was settled way before Bonny was inhabited
How did you know? Did you read the book? You took half of the excerpt from my upload to foment your theories. Okay, lets agree that "Okolo ama" is the name. Why is the king in the same book state that he and his people are from the "Igbo" country? In the same series of letters, he asked that an Igbo bible be created which Rev. Taylor and Crowther went ahead to create?

Do not worry, when I ave the time, I will upload the full letter or story.

Eastlink:
I think we need to open a thread on this fraudulent Perekule the Ijaws keep using for King Pepple. I open the thread and one uninformed admin sent it to food section. We can use the opportunity to tell the true story of King Pepple, his Igbo name, his Igbo origin and his exploits. At least unlike the Ijaws, we use facts to back up our findings.
What do you think Slayerforever?

Alabo7978:

He didn't say so, your white man said so.

And by the way, the only reason ndoki even have some ties with Bonny was because Asimini married off his granddaughter Kambasa off to an ndoki man to Foster trade relations with the hinterlands, Kambasa didn't like that place, and once her father died she returned back to okolo-ama leaving her husband behind.
Your white man didn't even mention that because he didn't know how to communicate with the locals in the dialect so he just gather few facts to HURRIEDLY arrange a report or thesis.
If not for Kambasa marrying an ndoki man, the few IBO freemen wouldn't have been free.

Ekealterego:

Horton will cause the Ijaws high BP because according to him, even Nimbe and Brass were Igbos. The reason why I am avoiding Horton is because all the issues and research can generate 100 other topics and make us lose focus. they are intertwined but I will try.

JANK23H:

I've explained on several occasions that most NigerDelta tribe as it still is today were regarded as Igbos.Stop acting like you don't know this.

Alabo7978:

He didn't say so, your white man said so.

And by the way, the only reason ndoki even have some ties with Bonny was because Asimini married off his granddaughter Kambasa off to an ndoki man to Foster trade relations with the hinterlands, Kambasa didn't like that place, and once her father died she returned back to okolo-ama leaving her husband behind.
Your white man didn't even mention that because he didn't know how to communicate with the locals in the dialect so he just gather few facts to HURRIEDLY arrange a report or thesis.
If not for Kambasa marrying an ndoki man, the few IBO freemen wouldn't have been free.

Ekealterego:

Okoloma existed before any human dwelled in Bonny. Stop your fables. OKoloma is as old as Ndoki.
Another fable, Tales by the moonlight. Where is this written? We come with fact, you come with myths with no receipts.
See the difference.
Slayerforever, Eastlink (see your Alinsaw Egbema), Newage98, see your Ekpahia (Ekpeye), Bkayy, Igboid.
Let us make reference to this very early map of Igbo land.

JANK23H:

I've explained on several occasions that most NigerDelta tribe as it still is today were regarded as Igbos.Stop acting like you don't know this.

SlayerForever:


Like which and which?

ThickSharon123:



In summary, you guys are suffering from post civil war syndrome. And here's the analysis.

"Post civil war syndrome": a mental construct which makes a particular groupf of people become paranoid with every little information they get from the opposition to continue the trend they were set in.

This is to say, when the Nigerian Navy were instructed to prevent Igbos from having sea, becuase that was some of the means they could get milk and proteinous diet. The Ijaws found it their responsibility to do the same as soon as the Igbos got back to Nigeria.

They now find it their responsibility to still prevent the Igbos from having that access, because they believe this is still the civil war.

What you guys need is some form of reorientation, because living like this would only place you people below poverty and anguish. So, dear one, stop following the mental disabilities of your forefathers, you can change the trend and set a pace for yourself.

JANK23H:

Ijaws,Efik,Ogoni,Ibibio etc.They still are classed under Igbos.The distinction only started recently after the NigerDelta agitations.

9Pluto:


Are you trying to say Crow didn't know what he was talking about?
The same Crow that took slaves from Bonny to the new world for over a decade.
Whose duty is was to sort slaves according to their origin. Who was VERY good friends of both King Pepple and King Haliday including their wives and Bonny natives. So much he was nicknamed Play man. The same Crow that makes jest of both Kings. That once walked King Haliday of his ship.
Crow that was able to quell an uprising of slaves on a ship by appealing to the slaves according to their ethnic nationality.
Crow who was able to differentiate different nationalities Igbos (including breeches), Brass, Ottams, Quaws, Appas etc according to their language, physiques, mannerism, tribal marks etc

Is it the same Crow you are talking about?
The one that knew igbos so well he knew their common names and wrote a dictionary of their language. Is he the one you are saying he won't be able to identify the ethnicity of his personal friends and long term business associates.

Like I said, that memoir was written for the future.

Ekealterego:

Brother, do not be clever by half, all our uploads clearly stated the differences in languages. What they stated was that most of the groups were related or descended from the Igbos. All the books meticulously stated the difference and collected specimens of the languages.

SlayerForever:



Very good idea. I wonder how ashamed some people in Bonny will be when they truly realize their present king bears a fraudulent name.

SlayerForever:


Total lies. Not even during regional government were non Igbos ever called Igbos.

SlayerForever:


Total lies. Not even during regional government were non Igbos ever called Igbos.

SlayerForever:


Total lies. Not even during regional government were non Igbos ever called Igbos.

Alabo7978:

I stopped reading this poo when you said crowther IN HIS YORUBA FORM CHOSE TO HIDE THE FACT like he knew they'd be Nigeria one day, .dunce.

Alabo7978:

JANK23H do not mind them, I know what you're talking about.
Many people in the region around Igbo land were refered to as igbos. Even in the military era in Nigeria, the northern people use to believe everybody in the former eastern region we're ibos, just as we believed everyone in the north were HAUSA, or everyone in the west was Yoruba.
Heck the ibos themselves see efiks, ibibio, and every one with that sound of the language as calabar people.
Same mistakes most these white men did
Pluto9

Ekealterego:

This is another account by Horton in a different chapter stating the dialects of Igbo written in 1866-68
Slayerforever, look at Bonny carefully written here.
9japluto
Bkayy
Igboid
Eastlink

GreatBoss:
If these guys are asking for Ijaw towns with AMA let me give them some.

AZAMA APOI BAYELSA IJAW

ANGIAMA SAGBAMA BAYELSA IJAW
(THE TOWN OF THE GUY WHO NAMED BIAFRA)

UKPARAMA AROGBO ONDO IJAW

OLODIAMA EDO IJAW

OLODIAMA BAYELSA IJAW

OGBEINAMA DELTA IJAW

KPAKIAMA DELTA IJAW

(HOME OF THE 1 NUMBER IJAW PERSON WORLDWIDE THE INC PRESIDENT)

OBUAMA KALABARI RIVERS IJAW
(HOME OF ASARI DOKUBO)

OKPOAMA
BRASS BAYELSA IJAW
(HOME OF MINISTER OF STATE PETROLEUM TIMPRE SYLVA)

AMADAKA AKWA-IBOM IJAW

(HOME OF IJAW NATIONAL AFFAIRS COMMISIONER)

ABULOAMA WAKIRIIKE RIVERS IJAW

ABONEAMA KALABARI RIVERS IJAW

ABALAMA IBANI RIVERS IJAW

OLOAMA IBANI RIVERS IJAW

KILIBIAMA IBANI RIVERS IJAW.

KAIAMA KOLOKUMA BAYELSA IJAW
(HOME OF ISAAC BORO)

OKOROAMA NEMBE BAYELSA IJAW

AGUDAMA EPIE BAYELSA IJAW

AGUDAMA EKPETIAMA BAYELSA IJAW

ASARAMA ANDONI RIVERS IJAW
(HOME OF IYC PRESIDENT WORLDWIDE)

And many others too numerous to mention.