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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Numerouno94(m): 5:02pm On Nov 30, 2021
Badguy77:



Jesus....With this few points of mine, i hope i have convince you and not confuse you that messi is better than penaldo...Thaaank you grin

Ur welkum boss. grin grin

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by lichocho(m): 5:02pm On Nov 30, 2021
obembet:


I can't and I will never do that. People like you are not new to me. Suffering and smiling. Buhari has limited u to zero, u can't even think on your own again. I won't be surprised if you vote Buhari again Mr. N power grin
una problem be say una go start arguments but to back am up with facts una no fit..na another mata u carry come de talk..getat
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by cyrilamx(m): 5:03pm On Nov 30, 2021
JooEeL:


Messi never deserved it in 2010 and Im a barca fan. So did Ronaldo not deserve it in 2013.

But this year concerning Messi's pls, hush it.
Did Ronaldo not deserve it in 2018 when it was unceremoniously given to Modric? Just fifa bias against Ronaldo. As evident of Sepp Blatter choice of Messi over Ronaldo.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by lexy2014: 5:03pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ayemileto:


French League was also Cancelled Last year because of COVID.

Before other Leagues decided to resume and finish up, France football already announced they are cancelling the League.

So, It's not only the award they cancelled, they cancelled all other football stuffs.

Stop making it look like it was cancelled because of Lewa.

An award ceremony isn't a league. An award ceremony is a days event and not a seasons event. An award ceremony can be organised virtually. A league can't be organised virtually. As at d time the award was cancelled, some events were already taking place virtually. The full season of Simon Cowell's America's got talent got on virtually. So the question of covid disrupting an award ceremony doesn't arise
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by excel101(m): 5:03pm On Nov 30, 2021
Are we to blame, that those that are annually saddled with the responsibility of voting who emerges winner of Ballon D'or (which includes national team captains, coaches, and journalists) voted Messi as the winner. We should rather dwell on the criterias used.

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by OJEEMAH(m): 5:04pm On Nov 30, 2021
Numerouno94:


This is the problem i hv wit some of u. U can't make a decent conversation witout trying to bring in personal/financial/family gibberish. Do u knw me outside nairaland? Hv u ever seen me begging on nairaland? Ohhhh u fink we re some low life poor rats cos we condescend so low by making jokes wit every Tom, Dick nd Harry on nairaland? Do u realise alot of financial buoyant Nigerians re on this forum jux as their re poor nd average Nigerians on the forum too? Well i will 4give ur ignorance nd let that slide, afterall a word from a pained as penaldian shuld b taken wit a pinch of salt.


Abt Buhari, re u in anyway better than Buhari? We all insult Buhari wen we re worst than the devil in our own little way buh so quick to insult Buhari. Re u any different? Ain't u a pained, bitter asss biased penaldian on this forum? Who in sport section doesn't knw that Obembet is one biased member? Who doesn't knw that u enjoy promoting Ronaldo nd pushing evil agender against Messi in collaboration with ur equally biased mods?? Now check urself b4 casting aspersions at Buhari cos ur no better.


Back to the topic, Messi deserves his 7th balon d'or. Re u better than the organisers, captains, coaches, journalists etcetera, that took part in the voting process? I will not dwell much on this cos Messi's stat is there for everyone to see. U guys fink everything is fake wen tinx don't go in ur favour. Lewi himself congratulated Messi, who re u to tink otherwise? Who re u?


U guys re only angry that Messi has left ur pendu far behind in the pecking order.

Like i said earlier, u can stop following football if ur angry. Pls boycott anything football, let the world no u guys re angry. After all, we need sane minds in football, not some pained asss bitter fans.

I said wat i said. Obembet, u nd ur coons shuld boycott football forever pls. Gud riddance.
I swear you deserve Balon D'or with this piece

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Chachamiliano: 5:05pm On Nov 30, 2021
YoungRay007:
It pains to see Messi winning 7 balon d or. How will I tell my kids that a player who has won 7 balon d or, is still yet to win a world cup, main while, Pele who won three world cups, never won a balon d or

Same with Ronaldo. Some people have won two world cup but are not recognized. They have never made first 10. Eg Cafu
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Numerouno94(m): 5:06pm On Nov 30, 2021
OJEEMAH:
I swear you deserve Balon D'or with this piece

Tanx boss, i was jux in my best behavior grin grin
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by sportskid(m): 5:06pm On Nov 30, 2021
NORSIYK:
Only blinded football fans will justify this year's Ballon D'or, in as much as it boils down to those who voted.

Ballon d'Or isn't for best player in a calendar year rather is for the most popular player amongst the bias and corrupt voters.


Neymar or Suarez or Griezmann with Messi's stats won't even make Ballon D'or top 10 in rankings.

Then again it's Messi whose all rules must be bent to favour him.


In 2010 it was about goals not about contributions like winning champions league with the most assists, world cup joint top scorer, World cup finalist, world cup silver ball.


2018 was about being a world cup finalist with 2 goals and 1 assist
Champions league winner
Thereby making useless of the 2010 criteria.

2019 was about goals and not about champions league contributions again, thereby changing the 2018 criteria.

2021 goals doesn't matter, dribbles and useless chances created that amounted to nothing were more important.

France football is about the publicity they get from the bias journalists who vote for their favorite player regardless of how poorly he had performed

Ok but , in your mind when the gave it to pendu 5 times, it was ok abi?
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by emae009(m): 5:07pm On Nov 30, 2021
Odoogu:


Bro, abeg you wey sabi, tell us the year oocheesy

January to October, 2021.
what did Salah achieve then or you didn't know Liverpool were struggling towards the end of last season?
COPA and EUROS were played after the end of the season.
Messi stats within that period is underwhelming for his standard but still incredible. the only thing Lewandowski has on Messi within that period is goals and League title.
Anything else??

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by emae009(m): 5:10pm On Nov 30, 2021
lexy2014:


Your response should be to d guy I responded to. I asked an entirely different question which had nothing to do with evra. So u didn't answer my question

the first part of my response was to you.
Sorry the second one was for the other guys. my mistake
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Masterito(m): 5:10pm On Nov 30, 2021
Both years
Numerouno94:


Lewi deserves to win it in 2020 nd not 2021. U guys re getting it mixed up.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by DECLAN2015(m): 5:11pm On Nov 30, 2021
Numerouno94:


This is the problem i hv wit some of u. U can't make a decent conversation witout trying to bring in personal/financial/family gibberish. Do u knw me outside nairaland? Hv u ever seen me begging on nairaland? Ohhhh u fink we re some low life poor rats cos we condescend so low by making jokes wit every Tom, Dick nd Harry on nairaland? Do u realise alot of financial buoyant Nigerians re on this forum jux as their re poor nd average Nigerians on the forum too? Well i will 4give ur ignorance nd let that slide, afterall a word from a pained as penaldian shuld b taken wit a pinch of salt.


Abt Buhari, re u in anyway better than Buhari? We all insult Buhari wen we re worst than the devil in our own little way buh so quick to insult Buhari. Re u any different? Ain't u a pained, bitter asss biased penaldian on this forum? Who in sport section doesn't knw that Obembet is one biased member? Who doesn't knw that u enjoy promoting Ronaldo nd pushing evil agender against Messi in collaboration with ur equally biased mods?? Now check urself b4 casting aspersions at Buhari cos ur no better.


Back to the topic, Messi deserves his 7th balon d'or. Re u better than the organisers, captains, coaches, journalists etcetera, that took part in the voting process? I will not dwell much on this cos Messi's stat is there for everyone to see. U guys fink everything is fake wen tinx don't go in ur favour. Lewi himself congratulated Messi, who re u to tink otherwise? Who re u?


U guys re only angry that Messi has left ur pendu far behind in the pecking order.

Like i said earlier, u can stop following football if ur angry. Pls boycott anything football, let the world no u guys re angry. After all, we need sane minds in football, not some pained asss bitter fans.

I said wat i said. Obembet, u nd ur coons shuld boycott football forever pls. Gud riddance.


So what is the difference between you and the person u are correcting.u end up being worse than him.u condemned cr7 but u praise messi.
He has more of the ballor now but that doesn't make him a better footballer than Ronaldo
Some of us like him .That's it
Not given Lewandowski that award is satanic and it diminished it.
This is one award given to messi that most peolpl were not happy about because it somhow damage the game
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by seunayantokun(m): 5:12pm On Nov 30, 2021
It's like what's called democracy: the wrong majority have their way while the right minority have their say. The consequence is suffered by all. It's like Buhari in 2015, majority had their way but everyone is crying now, including those being paid to fight for him online.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Numerouno94(m): 5:13pm On Nov 30, 2021
Timekeeper:


Shut up.. Wetin concern Buhari for Ballon dor matter

Senseless reply.... U found a way to bring Buhari into this kind of argument.... How d u m bastic u r

No mind the fooollll.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by NORSIYK(m): 5:16pm On Nov 30, 2021
sportskid:


Ok but , in your mind when the gave it to pendu 5 times, it was ok abi?

2013 was questionable considering what happened in 2018 and 2021
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Successlane: 5:16pm On Nov 30, 2021
Chloraseptic:
He should go and contest it with the coaches, captain and journalist that voted for him..

Maybe he should make himself Germany captain so he can vote next time. .

Mumu talk from overrated midfielder that's just lucky to be Madrid team..

[b]Thierry Henry has topped the scoring chat before and didn't win it [/b]because of a certain Ronaldinho..

Football is an art it's not an act of scoring goals.


Gbamsolutely !!!!!

Taping the ball into the net at close range doesn't make you the best player on the pitch.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by OJEEMAH(m): 5:17pm On Nov 30, 2021
Numerouno94:


Tanx boss, i was jux in my best behavior grin grin
grin grin grin

They are all pained and frustrated after all their efforts to bring Messi down was proved futile.....just ignore their hostility and act like you dont notice their presence

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by DECLAN2015(m): 5:19pm On Nov 30, 2021
JooEeL:


That is the funniest thing. If it is based solely on individual performance. Messi would have won it almost 9 times in the past decade. It has been tweaked to accommodate the likes of Ronaldo, Modric etc.

Individual performance with a mix of team trophies have been the deciding factor. Jorginho has the trophies but individually, how many MOTM's does he have? How many games does he boss? Statistically it's Lewy but he falls short of a significant trophy. While Messi does not match Lewy, he makes up for it with the Copa.

Ronaldo fans are just so unlucky that credible rivals for the 2021 Balon d'or like Mbappe, Kante, Lewy all fell by the way side when important trophies mattered. Kante's CL kinda matched Messi's Copa but Kante was no where acceptable in the Euros. Ronaldo fans were seriously unlucky this year cos Messi was not even a genuine contender for the first 5 months of this year.


To me 2010, 2013 and 2018 were sham years. Sneijder or Xavi for 2010, Ribery, Robben or Neuer for 2013, Neuer arguably for 2014, Greizmann for 2018.

And Lewandowski for 2021

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by IfnobeGod20: 5:21pm On Nov 30, 2021
obembet:


I can't and I will never do that. People like you are not new to me. Suffering and smiling. Buhari has limited u to zero, u can't even think on your own again. I won't be surprised if you vote Buhari again Mr. N power grin
Why are you people always angry and cursing when things doesn't go you way. You guys need to know that there are two sides in a coin. Everyone cannot be on the same page on issue. Joyfully no one curse you or abuse you for standing firm on your own view but you guys always want to push your own views on the throat of everyone and even do that with anger. You guys need to stop that nonsense.
Again, what brought Buhari to issue of football? If anyone decide to vote for Buhari again, that is the person cup of tea, since it's democracy which requires individual choice. What concerns you with people's choice concerning election.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Numerouno94(m): 5:21pm On Nov 30, 2021
OJEEMAH:
grin grin grin

They are all pained and frustrated after all their efforts to bring Messi down was proved futile.....just ignore their hostility and act like you dont notice their presence

True talk boss. I will go wit ur advice. Make we jux they ignore them. That ur transgender frnd done go rogue. Hahahahahaha grin grin

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Adrian98(m): 5:27pm On Nov 30, 2021
emae009:


why was Jorginho on the podium if Bayern won the UCL. Betting no be football.

Personally for me I’ll say due to his accurate penalties and his contributions during the euros which eventually he ended up winning.

I know you might mention me and relate this to Messi winning the copa America but once again Messi doesn’t deserve it this year for me. That’s my opinion. No need for insults from whoever sees this comment. Thank you
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by stayclearofme: 5:29pm On Nov 30, 2021
Odoogu:


cheesycheesy....
go tribunal say I give my own opinion?cheesy
As I no agree with you.cheesy

Maka why, no be today e dey happen cos na vote.

Na you suppose get the matter, then move oncheesy
As your own opinion no agree with the people wey get football nko? cheesy Go tribunal go contest am na. grin
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by JooEeL(m): 5:33pm On Nov 30, 2021
cyrilamx:
Did Ronaldo not deserve it in 2018 when it was unceremoniously given to Modric? Just fifa bias against Ronaldo. As evident of Sepp Blatter choice of Messi over Ronaldo.

Why will Ronaldo deserve it? Griezmann deserved it baba.
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Ayemileto(m): 5:35pm On Nov 30, 2021
lexy2014:


An award ceremony isn't a league. An award ceremony is a days event and not a seasons event. An award ceremony can be organised virtually. A league can't be organised virtually. As at d time the award was cancelled, some events were already taking place virtually. The full season of Simon Cowell's America's got talent got on virtually. So the question of covid disrupting an award ceremony doesn't arise
Well, my point is the award was not cancelled because of Lewandowski like you and many other people are making it look like. It was cancelled due to the disruption in the entire footballing season.

Of course, the award could have been organised virtually, but the organisers made the decision they thought best, and it was not because Lewandowski would have won it.

Recall, many Leagues had to decide weather to continue or cancel the league, with some leagues deciding to cancel.

Even the UCL was reduced to 1 game in QF/SF instead of the normal Home and Away games, otherwise, Lewandowski would have probably broken Ronaldo's 17 UCL goal record.

In as much as cancelling the award is unfair to Lewandowski, giving the award would have also been unfair to players playing in cancelled Leagues.

Like I said earlier, the organisers made the decision they probably thought was best, just like each Leagues made their own decisions.

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Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by emae009(m): 5:55pm On Nov 30, 2021
Adrian98:


Personally for me I’ll say due to his accurate penalties and his contributions during the euros which eventually he ended up winning.

I know you might mention me and relate this to Messi winning the copa America but once again Messi doesn’t deserve it this year for me. That’s my opinion. No need for insults from whoever sees this comment. Thank you

smh... na Chelsea win UCL.. like where do you guys come out from??
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Koolkola92: 5:59pm On Nov 30, 2021
Toni Kroos talks too much
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by lexy2014: 5:59pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ayemileto:

Well, my point is the award was not cancelled because of Lewandowski like you and many other people are making it look like. It was cancelled due to the disruption in the entire footballing season.

Of course, the award could have been organised virtually, but the organisers made the decision they thought best, and it was not because Lewandowski would have won it.

Recall, many Leagues had to decide weather to continue or cancel the league, with some leagues deciding to cancel.

Even the UCL was reduced to 1 game in QF/SF instead of the normal Home and Away games, otherwise, Lewandowski would have probably broken Ronaldo's 17 UCL goal record.

In as much as cancelling the award is unfair to Lewandowski, giving the award would have also been unfair to players playing in cancelled Leagues.

Like I said earlier, the organisers made the decision they probably thought was best, just like each Leagues made their own decisions.

What has disruption in d football season got to do with d award?

Why did the organisers cancel the event despite that they could have organised it virtually?

When u say: "the organisers made the decision they probably thought was best", what do u mean? What was best?
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Karemarealty288(m): 6:05pm On Nov 30, 2021
Check facts and stop lamentation.....

Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by scantee(m): 6:21pm On Nov 30, 2021
Wailers continue ooo

7 Ballon D'Or sealed already
Re: Toni Kroos On Lionel Messi's Ballon D'or Win by Adrian98(m): 6:25pm On Nov 30, 2021
emae009:


smh... na Chelsea win UCL.. like where do you guys come out from??
I totally forgot about that. So that sums up my point that Messi doesn’t deserve this.

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