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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:52pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
Robbstark. Does it matter? These your arguments are beginning to sound exactly like the Benin own we used to hear concerning Anioma. Benin would say the Anioma kings are dressed like Binis. The Anioma kings bear Bini names. The Anioma villages bear Bini names. The Anioma kings go to Bini to be crowned. The Anioma speak a type of Bini. Then you see some efulefu from Anioma on Nairaland here defending Bini stoutly. Bini this, Bini that. Bla bla bla. It doesn't matter. Having some cultural influence doesn't mean the people are no longer Igbos. Jaja can name his children anything. The two towns are Igboland. This was how the Bini continued until we drilled it into their skulls. This days they don't talk that nonsense anymore. But I know it's unknown gunmen activities they are afraid of. The Anioma is no longer attractive to claim again. 2 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:53pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
RobbStark: They don't speak Igbo right? Should I bring a screenshot for you? |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:58pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
Let me use this opportunity to divulge some information in Bonny that says some indigenes are turning on the king (Perekule) for sometime now. I'm not certain the cause of the issues yet. |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 11:03pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
SlayerForever:Go and rest The matter no dey tire you? |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 11:03pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 11:08pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
BKayy: You are the one embarrassing yourself. Are there no ibos from Opobo or Bonny in this forum. Or do you guys plan on driving everyone out of bonny n Opobo and start using the place cos I don't get it. Maybe you are still dreaming of owning those places but I know it won't work for you guys . Continue cruising, it's fun joining you guys 2 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by makemoneywbsite: 11:09pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
BKayy: I thought I'm the only one that has noticed that: the chap is a suave wily snake whose intention is to bring opprobrium to Ndigbo. He might be a member of BMC and subtly seeks to worm himself into the Igbo circles while his intentions are no less malicious towards Ndigbo. I noticed this from his first few posts that try to circumvent issues when the truth favors Ndigbo while subtly promoting anti-Igbo sentiments in a most diplomatic and yet detached manner. I seriously doubt he is Igbo. Very evil chap. I can bet he is in the payroll of the same chap financing the Udele vulture guy. Are you telling me that someone who is responsibly employed would have time for all these daily epistles with subject around Ndigbo and with the intent at minifying our tribe? 2 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:17pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
RobbStark: If you are not an Ijaw migrant mugu, i wonder what else you are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYOOWbKeFB8 OPOBO:You Wouldn't Believe This Is Igbo Dialect Spoken In Opobo Rivers State. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HG7omHI1gY OPOBO NWATAM 2020/2021/OPOBO AT 150 CELEBRATION 1 Like |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by 9Pluto(m): 11:21pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
My dear OP @AlexBells, Thank you for taking out such enormous amount of time to put up that post. While it may have been informative to some people. It didn't really do much for me for certain reasons. Let me quickly point out that your headline is misleading for the content you dished out. For someone from Bonny or Opobo, you did not provide any insight. You just came up and declared Bonny is of a mixly owned heritage and Opobo is purely igbo. How? On whose authority. You also came up with an academic write up about the Portuguese era in Africa(without going into details) and in the same breath you are talking about King Jaja of Opobo who was born centuries later. My post in the other thread were not mere conjectures from my fantasies or folktales I was told. The reason for even starting that thread was to discover/prove why there are native igbos (via language and culture) in Bonny and Opobo yet some of them are always made to believe that they are ijaws or at worse were descendants of freed igbo slaves the ijaws were trading in. To help give context to why Bonny and Opobo seem to be the only post slavery port where the natives speak a dialect of the igbo language. A language that was being taught in schools in these places until the civil war. I was trying to make sense of why the people of Bonny and Opobo are being subjected to the arduous task of acquiring a second native language by compulsion. My reference which seems to be one of the oldest was from the Memoirs of a British Captain named Hugh Crow of Liverpool. His record was not a mere academic exercise or an attempt to fill up historical gaps. It was a record of a man who came, saw and conquered Bonny for over a decade. He went into atomic details of what life was like in Bonny of 200 years ago. He painstakingly documented the people he met and did business with for about 10 years. Their culture and tradition, their world view, their believe and religion, physique including complexion, their attitude/character including their demeanor. He specified some of their common names. He wrote a dictionary of their language. He documented their healthcare system, marriage, funeral etc. He talked about the ethnic identity of the Kings he transacted business with, the natives he met and there national symbols or identity. He mentioned the people who own slaves and gave an instance of how one could become a slave. After reading his account of over 300 pages, I couldn't ask for more. Crow was a man who knew what he was talking about. I came to a conclusion(which I won't repeat here) on the identity of Bonny and Opobo people based on that literature which several other kind people have supported with other literatures and not even one has countered the assertions he made. In that thread we made sure all and every outlandish claim had a supporting literature. So I am still trying to understand what question(s) this thread is trying to answer. Be kind to provide readers with the details (name and date) of whatever literature you reference. Thanks. P.S: I do not hold or bear any grudges with anyone based on whichever the side of the debate you pick on and I am open to further learning on the original thread as this would be my last post on this thread. 4 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 11:24pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
FallenShitHole: Mumu, I said show me a man who claims to be Ibo and from Opobo or Bonny. Not what they speak. I can go to Akoko Edo in Edo state and they speak Yoruba there. Shud I now generalized it that all of them are Yorubas. I am waiting |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by OfoIgbo: 11:25pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
AlexBells: Your attachment proves nothing because Ndoki people are not Aro people. Ndoki people that became Ubani citizens, were also Deltans, after all they lived in the Niger Delta 1 Like |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 11:33pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
9Pluto:I didn't want to reply to anything but I would reply yours, if you noticed I did not make any reply to your post, earlier I tried to stay out but my getting at least 3 mention from the post all being too mean, First as regards this post, I said Opobo is as Igboland as Orlu because King Jaja and his Ijaw crew migrated there just a while ago, where there no natives when they arrived?, I said Bonny is a hybrid town which you also attested to, then the people who mentioned me in the previous thread was talking in references to other post I made earlier where I said despite that Ijaws sold Igbos in the past, there could be potential chance of having a country together. Then most of the people who mentioned me in the post was making references to that my earlier assertion, I have no problem with your population, I only have problems with mean people trying to rubbish my credibility because I'm not saying exactly what they want to hear, The British account can describe people but we need to acknowledge that slavery was on over 2 centuries before the coming of British, i did not doubt their description but history or not, Opobo either gets a peaceful option or a violent option |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 11:39pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
OfoIgbo:My argument is not on who is Aro and who is Ndoki, my argument is, where there ever a time when the Ijaws facilitated the sales of an Igbo slave ? |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:39pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
Seriously, I can't make out the head or tail of this thread. What exactly is this thread about? Alexbells comes across to me like one with what I call "controlled madness". Meaningless threads meant to create diversion or water down the importance of pertinent issues. 3 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:41pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
AlexBells: What's exactly your point? |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:42pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
FallenShitHole: The first video, the guy's Igbo towards the end of the video is so clear. Thanks for sharing. |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:46pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
But I made an assertion that the Ijaw people (the nationality that we are contesting the territories with) by virtue of the fact that they had earlier access to the outside world sold our people to slavery as we are further interior, my people thought that my statement was derogatory in saying that the Ijaws aided in kidnap and sold our people to slavery, No Ijaw person sold any Igbo to slavery. King Pepple, of Bonny was both Igbo and Igbo speaking. King Jaja was Igbo speaking. So which Ijaw person are you speaking of? 5 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:47pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
RobbStark:You are even dafter and dumber than i thought. Read about Dr. Tina Edmunds-OGBUOKIRI. Do you know who is Dakuku Peterside? They are proud Igbos of Opobo. 1 Like |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:49pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
AlexBells:Your argument is daft. Would you know how many Ijaws that the Aro Igbos sold into slavery? |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:51pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
AlexBells: Why are you this daft and dumb? Read the bolded again. Slaves taken from the hinterlands to Bonny in numbers were as a result of the British ready buyers who came in later. There were no reasons for slaves to be moved in numbers from the hinterlands to Bonny or Opobo lands before the coming of the British slave buyers. This points to the fact that Igbos already occupy those lands before the coming of the British slave buyers. You seems to appear dumber and still digging. 4 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by OfoIgbo: 11:55pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
9Pluto SlayerForever BKayy Ekealterego Fejoku OfoIgbo Igboid afonjaheadhunts Please let us get back to the thread created by 9Pluto Ignore this one. It is an attempt by the Ijaws to kill a thr we that is packed full of information nuggets on Bonny and Opobo origins 3 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 11:58pm On Nov 30, 2021 |
Igboid:I honestly really didn't want to reply you becuase I don't think someone with controlled madness can make a statement worth replying, meanwhile was people and Jaja the only kings, and when are we talking about and is the Jaja not technically a slave ? 1 Like |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 12:00am On Dec 01, 2021 |
FallenShitHole:You are talking about British while I'm talking about Portugues, centuries apart |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by afonjaheadhunts: 12:15am On Dec 01, 2021 |
AlexBells: Mr Politician, history is not for everyone focus on being a politician so you don't end up being both a failed historian and politician at the same time, I just pity the community you represent because another Joe Yorubakwe is loading. Tueh. 1 Like |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by afonjaheadhunts: 12:31am On Dec 01, 2021 |
AlexBells: Mr Politician it appears you don't even read your own document. funny man Please provide any literature or document from the Portuguese era under review that mentions ijos in any scope whatever and not just making silly assumptions, heck the document you even provided even mentioned Akwacross groups and Igbo groups with no Ijos in view yet you still criminally made the thread about Ijos, when everything in Ithe writeup are your mere assumptions and postulation. I told you Ijos have never been relevant in history until jaja. Ijaws only made history twice one was when an Igbo slave Ruled over them second was when Jonathan became president and both history had Igbo written over it I don't know why you can't let that sink into your head. Abi dem use false history swear for you. Tueh 3 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by bomb24: 12:45am On Dec 01, 2021 |
AlexBells: plz provide the link and the full article, the name of the explorer and the initial portuguese language used in writing down the records i will wait tnx. Igboid. 2 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 12:48am On Dec 01, 2021 |
bomb24:Please don't wait for that dungeon politician. He can't provide any link, article or name of such Portuguese explorer. 1 Like |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by bomb24: 12:49am On Dec 01, 2021 |
afonjaheadhunts: lolzz me and you must be in the same line of thought i just asked him to provide the full article, the name of the explorer and the initial records and documentation written in portuguese. |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by afonjaheadhunts: 12:53am On Dec 01, 2021 |
Igboid: Alexbells is to Igbos what musiwa is to Yoruba and what Diatri is to Ijaws. |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by bomb24: 1:05am On Dec 01, 2021 |
FallenShitHole: The self-acclaimed politician just dugged up some shit and termed it earlier portuguese merchants documentation without basic facts to prove his claim. he could have put these facts into consideration before opening these thread. 1) the portuguese never used english language in documentations rather dey used portuguese, so were is the initially portuguese documentation so we can do our own research and translation.? 2) who was the portuguese explorer.? to my own broad understanding the portugals were never interested in anthropology in the lower naija but were there for strict business. |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Fejoku: 7:09am On Dec 01, 2021 |
[s] AlexBells:[/s] You think you're smart but your very far from it. I deliberately invoked you in that thread future sake and you didn't disappoint. In your response to my message, you claimed to prefer staying back to learn since you don't know much about the whole affair but here you are now starting a thread to write on what you claimed not to know much about. We all can see that no one should take you seriously. Here are facts that nailed you to the wall for all to peruse. 1. You are not Igbo and do not stand for the good of Ndigbo. 2. You're an agent with a very sinister plan. That plan has failed already because you've been found out. 3. You actually know very little about this subject matter and it's best you remain silent and learn. It would be easier to learn with an open mind but then you never came here with an open mind. Some of us have access to critical documents on this subject. We won't bring them out until the right time. Finally, any career that hinges its success on the spiting and tearing down of Ndigbo will die. It's best you back track from your ignoble mission because if you don't, you will live to regret it. 3 Likes |
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 9:08am On Dec 01, 2021 |
FallenShitHole: You are worse than I first thought. Dakuku told you he was Ibo cos he was seeking for your votes which he failed woefully to get and you are here foaming in the mouth for the words of a politician. Come, boy, don't quote me again if you don't have any body to show me. |
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