Pathokpo:

What about joginho which excuse do you have for him not winning it.

what about Emerson? Did he not win UCL and Euros as well? Jorginho wasn't even the best player in all the competitions he won. You can't beat yourself and say Jorginho played better than Kante in the UCL, Jorginho didn't play better than Veratti and co in the Euros.
You don't give an individual award to a player just because he's in a winning team.if we are to go by ur logic, Raphael Verane supposed to win Balon d'Or in 2018 ahead of Modric.

abbey621:


Again I don't know if you're just trolling or have real problem with comprehension. How can I compare a national team with a club. Let me make it clear to you again, Argentina to Poland, Barcelona to Bayern. Argentina no be Poland's mate, so expecting Poland to do well at the Euros and expecting Argentina to do well at the Copa is what we are talking about. Nobody dey follow you drag, Messi is the greatest player ever but not in 2020 and certainly not in 2021, I am a Messi fan myself but I am not delusional, Lewa was robbed nothing more nothing else, stat wise you can't argue, head to head you can't argue hence the only argument here is winning Copa.

at this point it's a lot better if I just shake my head and move on.
See who is saying I have comprehension problem when you're actually the one with it. since you don't understand what I meant lemme break it down for you. I still doubt if you'll understand it seeing as the first one was as simple as "pick that for me".
When you talked about club achievement you implied Lewandowski won the league title (Bayern has the best team in Bundesliga and a better team than Barca team that Messi dragged to 3rd position that were 3 matches away from actually winning the league). The idea of talent in the team didn't come into question when you were talking about club football.
But as soon as you switched to country, you didn't say Argentina won like you did with Bayern, instead you when on to compare Argentina with Poland.
isn't that Hypocrisy?? or do you even know what the word means?
simple thing to ask yourself, did Messi assign Poland to Lewandowski and Argentina to himself when they were born??
what about Switzerland that did well in the Euros. what about Serbia and other non-big European countries in the world Cup qualifiers?
In 2018 when Messi was placed fifth by similar judges after winning La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Spanish SuperCopa + the European Golden Boot only to be judge based on Argentina performance in the world Cup and Barca performance in the UCL. I didn't see this much talk about injustice.
Now you're talking about stats, please educate me how aside from Goals which other individual stats was Lewandowski better than Messi in 2021.
Miss me with the BS abeg.


Below is the criteria for the award since a lot of you have phone but can't use it

shogsman:
Wail more

eyaa...take more tissue

maxwell530:
what about Emerson? Did he not win UCL and Euros as well? Jorginho wasn't even the best player in all the competitions he won. You can't beat yourself and say Jorginho played better than Kante in the UCL, Jorginho didn't play better than Veratti and co in the Euros.
You don't give an individual award to a player just because he's in a winning team.if we are to go by ur logic, Raphael Verane supposed to win Balon d'Or in 2018 ahead of Modric.

I bet you if joginho wasn't in that Italian squad they wouldn't have won the Euros. It is very obvious you only watch when the ball is being kicked. Let me tell you something, it's joginho that brings calm and coordination to the Italian and Chelsea football.

Pathokpo:

I bet you if joginho wasn't in that Italian squad they wouldn't have won the Euros. It is very obvious you only watch when the ball is being kicked. Let me tell you something, it's joginho that brings calm and coordination to the Italian and Chelsea football.

Lol,this is hilarious. Do you know the number of saves Donnarouma made in the Euros? You mean Chelsea wouldn't have won UCL without Jorginho too? Lol. The performance that Ngolo Kante dropped against Real Madrid both legs and Man City in the final, Jorginho has never dropped 30% of those in his entire Chelsea career.

emae009:


at this point it's a lot better if I just shake my head and move on.
See who is saying I have comprehension problem when you're actually the one with it. since you don't understand what I meant lemme break it down for you. I still doubt if you'll understand it seeing as the first one was as simple as "pick that for me".
[s]When you talked about club achievement you implied Lewandowski won the league title (Bayern has the best team in Bundesliga and a better team than Barca team that Messi dragged to 3rd position that were 3 matches away from actually winning the league). [/s]The idea of talent in the team didn't come into question when you were talking about club football.
But as soon as you switched to country, you didn't say Argentina won like you did with Bayern, instead you when on to compare Argentina with Poland.
isn't that Hypocrisy?? or do you even know what the word means?
simple thing to ask yourself, did Messi assign Poland to Lewandowski and Argentina to himself when they were born??
what about Switzerland that did well in the Euros. what about Serbia and other non-big European countries in the world Cup qualifiers?
In 2018 when Messi was placed fifth by similar judges after winning La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Spanish SuperCopa + the European Golden Boot only to be judge based on Argentina performance in the world Cup and Barca performance in the UCL. I didn't see this much talk about injustice.
Now you're talking about stats, please educate me how aside from Goals which other individual stats was Lewandowski better than Messi in 2021.
Miss me with the BS abeg.


Below is the criteria for the award since a lot of you have phone but can't use it

You know you're full of sh*t when you resort to cheap sentiments to win an argument. Club winning does not matter and I never for once emphasized on that, my emphasis was on the goals scored in each respective league. Messi's previous Ballon Dor was never about winning international trophies but about his sheer dominance in scoring goals and playmaking, I can still remmber his best season with over 90 goals. I suggest you look at the previous 10 winners of the award and do a deep analysis to see whether your points actually makes sense!

Furthermore, you can quote all the B.S. selective process all you want but we all know it's crap! One example, how did Modric win? Look at the selection criteria you displayed and tell me exactly how Modric won over the rest? You've been caught pants down and you're just scrambling to regain relevancy but it's too late....Like I said previously comprehension is your problem and perhaps a bit of arrogance, you keep exposing your ignorance and with each point I keep finding easy ways to counter your farce rhetoric.....Yeye dey smell!

abbey621:


You know you're full of sh*t when you resort to cheap sentiments to win an argument. Club winning does not matter and I never for once emphasized on that, my emphasis was on the goals scored in each respective league. Messi's previous Ballon Dor was never about winning international trophies but about his sheer dominance in scoring goals and playmaking, I can still remmber his best season with over 90 goals. I suggest you look at the previous 10 winners of the award and do a deep analysis to see whether your points actually makes sense!

Furthermore, you can quote all the B.S. selective process all you want but we all know it's crap! One example, how did Modric win? Look at the selection criteria you displayed and tell me exactly how Modric won over the rest? You've been caught pants down and you're just scrambling to regain relevancy but it's too late....Like I said previously comprehension is your problem and perhaps a bit of arrogance, you keep exposing your ignorance and with each point I keep finding easy ways to counter your farce rhetoric.....Yeye dey smell!

you said club winnings doesn't matter, goals scored do. Did you know that 2018 Modric won, Messi was the highest goal Scorer but was placed 5th on the ranking.
so using your own point Messi was actually cheated for the award.
abi do you want to rewrite your statement as you have a strong will of doing that.

PS: You still have provided the stats that make Lewandowski the deserved winner.

since you what to run on propaganda let's go there

emae009:



you said club winnings doesn't matter, goals scored do. Did you know that 2018 Modric won, Messi was the highest goal Scorer but was placed 5th on the ranking.
so using your own point Messi was actually cheated for the award.
abi do you want to rewrite your statement as you have a strong will of doing that.

PS: You still have provided the stats that make Lewandowski the deserved winner.

since you what to run on propaganda let's go there

I have no problem admitting Messi was cheated in 2018, in fact I have never supported the rationale behind modric winning, this is why I am amused when you quoted the selection criteria. Whether you like it or not bro, favoritism was played both in 2018 and this year. FiFA & Madrid used its influence in 2018 and in 2021 France's bitter history with Poland played a role. My fight is not with you, it is with you understanding that someone got robbed, whether it is 2018 or 2021, this ish don't make no damn sense!

abbey621:


I have no problem admitting Messi was cheated in 2018, in fact I have never supported the rationale behind modric winning, this is why I am amused when you quoted the selection criteria. Whether you like it or not bro, favoritism was played both in 2018 and this year. FiFA & Madrid used its influence in 2018 and in 2021 France's bitter history with Poland played a role. My fight is not with you, it is with you understanding that someone got robbed, whether it is 2018 or 2021, this ish don't make no damn sense!

You running me round in circles. So to understand each other in circles. abeg state your points clearly.
you can use numbering so I know how to state mine.

emae009:


You running me round in circles. So to understand each other in circles. abeg state your points clearly.
you can use numbering so I know how to state mine.

No need, my points were easily outlined, Lewa was robbed plain and simple, those that want us to ignore stats and focus only on Copa or international achievements should remember the same way most of us felt when Modric won in 2018, robbery is robbery e no matter whether na maggi or bullion van .

abbey621:


No need, my points were easily outlined, Lewa was robbed plain and simple, those that want us to ignore stats and focus only on Copa or international achievements should remember the same way most of us felt when Modric won in 2018, robbery is robbery e no matter whether na maggi or bullion van .

see why I said running in circles.
I've been begging you to bring out these so called stats but you haven't. Not once but so quick to say robbery.
please drop the stats let me also see it and change my stand

emae009:


see why I said running in circles.
I've been begging you to bring out these so called stats but you haven't. Not once but so quick to say robbery.
please drop the stats let me also see it and change my stand

I don't need to convince you of anything, how many times must I mentioned goals scored, how many times must I mention impact on team? Every year we distinguish the best player by their contributions to the team and most likely goals scored, once in a while they select someone that does not meet this criteria like you rightly pointed out Messi coming 5th in 2018, if I can agree with you that Messi was robbed in 2018 why do you find it so hard to see the robbery in 2021? Let me guess, it's hard to stay objective when it is not your idol....lol.

Dude it's okay, right or wrong your opinion is your opinion, nobody can take it away from you.....PEACE!

abbey621:


I don't need to convince you of anything, how many times must I mentioned goals scored, how many times must I mention impact on team? Every year we distinguish the best player by their contributions to the team and most likely goals scored, once in a while they select someone that does not meet this criteria like you rightly pointed out Messi coming 5th in 2018, if I can agree with you that Messi was robbed in 2018 why do you find it so hard to see the robbery in 2021? Let me guess, it's hard to stay objective when it is not your idol....lol.

Dude it's okay, right or wrong your opinion is your opinion, nobody can take it away from you.....PEACE!

you said stats but you're only focus on goals scored.
So why was VVD a very strong contender even more than Lewandowski when he was a defender??

You mentioned impact on the team but assumed Lewandowski had more impact than Messi.
Messi was won a record 8th Pichichi but that wasn't all. He went to COPA and was joint top Scorer while giving the most assist in the competition.
The same Euro that Lewandowski couldn't perform Schick of Czech Republic was joined Top Scorer with Ronaldo. He plays for West Ham and isn't even their best player.
Messi created more chances for his teammates than Lewandowski.
His goals got the most pionts for his team than Lewandowski (impact of goal on the team chances of winning a game).
But sure let's all forget about all these stats when talking about impact on the team and focus on who scored the most goals.

You just want to believe Lewandowski was robbed, anything that invalidate that isn't acceptable to you.

like you said Peace. I tired of going back and forth with you when you're putting on the sentiment glasses

emae009:


you said stats but you're only focus on goals scored.
So why was VVD a very strong contender even more than Lewandowski when he was a defender??

You mentioned impact on the team but assumed Lewandowski had more impact than Messi.
Messi was won a record 8th Pichichi but that wasn't all. He went to COPA and was joint top Scorer while giving the most assist in the competition.
[s]The same Euro that Lewandowski couldn't perform Schick of Czech Republic was joined Top Scorer with Ronaldo. He plays for West Ham and isn't even their best player.
Messi created more chances for his teammates than Lewandowski.
His goals got the most pionts for his team than Lewandowski (impact of goal on the team chances of winning a game).
But sure let's all forget about all these stats when talking about impact on the team and focus on who scored the most goals.
[/s]
You just want to believe Lewandowski was robbed, anything that invalidate that isn't acceptable to you.

like you said Peace. I tired of going back and forth with you when you're putting on the sentiment glasses

PEACE!