Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,207,608 members, 7,999,644 topics. Date: Monday, 11 November 2024 at 11:21 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Romance / Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site (2412 Views)
How I Used Civil Defence To Collect Back The Phone My Brother Bought For A Girl / See The Face Of RCCG Scammer / In Defence Of SINGLE Mothers(a Thread) (2) (3) (4)
Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by cbrass(m): 4:34pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Caveat: I am not a member of RCCG let alone RCCG city of David. Having said that, I get tired of the hypocrisies of so many Christians, the same people that don't have issues with meeting a spouse on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and even Nairaland will criticize a church creating a Christian dating platform. We have seen a lot of marriages here on nairaland so how does a church creating a dating site that will be controlled and monitored now be an issue. In fact, churches in the past have been doing something like this but you just didn't know. What do you call your youth camp meetings or singles gatherings that churches do organize? is it not because they want you people to interact and socialize or do you think it is only for religious purposes? How does someone that wakes at 5 am and goes to work and comes back as late as 9 pm every day socialize? The motive of the church is not bad if we remove our hypocritical hats. There are bad people everywhere, even in the church so I don't see how we suddenly criminalize social media, is it not the same people you meet offline that you see online. And for the over-religious folks, didn't Abraham send Eliazar to go look for a wife for Issac? what will you call that? Also haven't your pastors introduced you to a brother or a sister for the purpose of marriage ? what will you also call that? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Nobody: 4:45pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Okay, so what's the core argument against it? |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Odoogu(m): 4:49pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Do you like Badoo? |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by cbrass(m): 5:17pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Lukepeter:they were casting aspersions on the previous thread |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Nobody: 5:21pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
cbrass:Okay, let go through the other thread and see where here argument is coming from. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 5:46pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
cbrass:Your churches do it pretending it is sanctioned by God when in fact all they do violates God's teachings and commandments, Jesus Christ, to us. Let's try to look at this here. Jesus Christ sent His followers into the world....He didn't call them to segregate themselves in any way or form from the world. So your youth camps, singles gathering have absolutely nothing to do with God or that which God commanded of us to begin with. So when your churches create dating sites to control the way people interact with each other, God's Law to us is violated. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by cbrass(m): 5:57pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:you are speaking off point, 1 Like |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 5:59pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
cbrass:What exactly is off point about what I stated in response to your OP? |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Karleb(m): 6:29pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
To be frank, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's not because I'm a Christian or anything, but most dating websites has been adulterated by runs, I'm not the one to condemn runs but there should be a difference between dating website and hookup website and no matter how sane a dating website is, it usually becomes a hook up website because the owner is after money and more money comes from runs and hookups. But the idea of a church creating a dating website is comical! Maybe one day, another church or maybe mosque would create a porn website. 1 Like |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Nobody: 6:44pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Karleb:There is nothing comical about it. The world has evolved. There are Christian dating sites and Muslim dating sites all over the world wide web. Relating this to porn or runs is very foolish. There will always be work for the site admins to regulate the activities which also obtains in real life situations. We have witches, sorcerers, murderers and criminals in our churches and mosques that doesn't mean they're no longer places of worship. U guys just post like underdeveloped humans on here sometimes and I begin to wonder the sort of humans behind these monikers |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Rosement(f): 7:00pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Modified If you are a Christian, then this information is for you. It is a sin to criticize a Pastor. Even if you do not believe the Pastor, don't criticize the pastor, leave the Pastor to God. (Number 12:1-15) Verse 9 "The anger of the Lord burned against them, and he left them". Moses was wrong in the eyes of the people but not in the eyes of God, even if he was wrong in the eyes of God, God will not permit anybody to critize him. He will prefer to be the one to punish him. God does not allow anybody to criticize His Pastors, repent now before it is too late. God even punished Moses siblings, Miriam and Aaron because of Moses. Moses was not happy that they were punished, he had to beg God on their behalf. We have to be careful so that we don't see the rot of God and so that we don't sin against the Holy Spirit. Our words can make us or break us, some people are being punished by God but they don't know, they will just be seen calamities befallen them. (1 Samuel 26:1-9), Verse 9 "And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the Lord's anointed, and be guiltless?” (1 Samuel 26:9). I think I need to state this, I am a Christian but I am not a member of RCCG. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 7:57pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Rosement:Again, Your churches do it pretending it is sanctioned by God when in fact all they do violates God's teachings and commandments, Jesus Christ, to us. Let's try to look at this here. Jesus Christ sent His followers into the world....He didn't call them to segregate themselves in any way or form from the world. So your youth camps, singles gathering have absolutely nothing to do with God or that which God commanded of us to begin with. So when your churches create dating sites to control the way people interact with each other, God's Law to us is violated. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 8:00pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
killmods:There is every thing absurd about a "Christian" dating site and the number one being it is not according to God and so should not be in anyway related to Him or His Kingdom. A dating site is a dating site. Adding the word "Christian" to it suggests what is an abomination to God. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Rosement(f): 8:04pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I just hope I'm not replying a bot. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 8:05pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Rosement:Come back with a more reasonable response to my post and you will find out. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Karleb(m): 8:13pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
killmods: Shey you dey craze ni? Oga, is something wrong with you? If you don't live in caves, you'd know dating websites is synonymous to hook up and runs websites which is a step or two away from pornography. Which is exactly why a lot of people have issues with a church creating one. It's better you neglect my post rather than sounding foolish and out of touch with reality. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by cbrass(m): 8:22pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Karleb: Yea, I know it sounds funny but a lot of Christians are meeting themselves on facebook. the other day one bride was planning with the MC on how she will answer the question of how she met her husband, she doesn't want the church elders at the ceremony to be angry.....guess what, they met on facebook 1 Like |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Nobody: 8:31pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Okay do u mean Christians can't date themselves? This is just a medium to meet people of same faith and values and hopefully get to courting that may lead to the altar. How is it not according to God? |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 8:39pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
killmods:When you attach the word "Christian" to any idea you come up with, you are invariably saying God approves of that thing or idea aka it gives glory to God, but we know from God's Law, Jesus Christ, that only that which God has in fact commanded, give glory to Him. This means that any thing or idea that is not as commanded by God but billed in His name, or as relating to Him anyways, is in fact antiChrist aka an abomination and sin against God. In this here case, God never gave to men, nor to His followers rules regarding their dating lives, neither did God command His followers to build for His glory these dating sites. So, in essence, your Christian dating sites are against God. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Agricmoney(m): 9:07pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
I have nothing to say but let me carefully read the comments of everyone and learn one or two things. Anyway, Agriculture is life 2 Likes |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by cbrass(m): 10:01pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: why do you reason this way for Godsake . |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Nobody: 10:03pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Naturally every Christian dating relationship ends in one of two ways: u get married, or u break up. Since no true Christian dates someone hoping they will break up someday, the primary (and practical) purpose of Christian dating must be to determine whether the two of u should marry. While the great prize in marriage is Christ-centered intimacy, the great prize in dating is Christ-centered clarity. Intimacy is safest in the context of marriage, and marriage is safest in the context of clarity. If as Christians we want to have and enjoy Christ-centered intimacy (with someone), we need to get married. And if we want to get married, we need to pursue clarity about whom to marry.. how do u do That? As Christians, we must recognize that marriage means more than a mutually signed certificate. We also need to acknowledge that there’s a level of intimacy between a man and a woman – whether that’s physical, emotional or spiritual intimacy — that God has reserved for marriage. And If we want to enjoy all of the benefits of being a couple, we can’t date forever. In dating as a Christian ur sights must be set on marriage, or u risk losing focus and wandering into sin. Now God approves finding a wife. Finding her in these modern times involves dating and dating like all human relationships has its virtual presence in modern times. Attaching Christianity to it only goes to signify and indicate whom it's target users are. Humans are created for relationship and God fully supports this. (Genesis 2:18) U might think courtship or arranged marriage but dating with purpose and clarity can also be a means to solid Christian marriage and besides I don’t think we need to give up dating and return to arranged marriages in a modern era because of the practical difficulties today. There are Biblical reasons that make dating worthwhile too. Marriage might be the purpose of Christian dating, but it’s not our supreme goal in life. Our ultimate purpose is “to glorify God and to enjoy him forever,” and every part of our lives is eligible for striving toward this end (Colossians 3:17). Since “dating” as a principle is neither right nor wrong, we can choose to use dating as a way to magnify God’s glory or as a way to reject His commands. (It's up to u) I disagree that Christian dating or any online platform to promote and encourage Christian dating is antichrist 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Rosement(f): 10:09pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:You did exactly what I want. At least, you have shown me a sign that you are indeed a human being, you did not repeat your words this time. You acknowledging that Jesus Christ is God means you identify yourself as a Christian. But as Christians, there are certain principles we have to follow. As a Christian you don't have to participate in insulting Pastors. Apart from the fact that it is a sin, some things are better handled in the Church. There are people of other religions on this forum, if you as a Christian is insulting a Pastor, what you expect non-christians to do? What will you gain by doing this? Are your words going to change the decisions of Pastors or win souls? What exactly is your point? Ephesians 4:11-12 11. He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12. For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. Pastors are the representatives of God on earth, God appointed them for a reason and He appointed them by Himself, He did not seek our consent before He appointed them, so if God wants to scold them, He will scold them directly not through us. Read your Bible can well, whenever God servants or chosen ones (example David) do things that are wrong, God punishes them by Himself. God doesn't permit anybody to punish or criticize them, instead He even punishes people that criticize or tries to punish them. Whether you believe a Pastor is right or wrong that is not what matters. Pride goes before a fall, even Apostle Paul corrected himself when he criticized an High Priest. Act 23: 1-5. Beloved, I did not plan on replying you again but my heart will not let be. I'm not a saint either but we have to weigh some things before we do them. 1 Like |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Orgasmgiver123(m): 10:15pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Damn.. nasty.. I'm out of here Boogyman557, carry kala come 1 Like |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 10:16pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
cbrass:Because this is the way Jesus Christ taught His followers to reason. Do you have a thing against me reasoning like He taught His followers to? |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 10:19pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
killmods:You are not paying attention at all. There is no such thing as "Christian" dating or "Christian" marriage where God is concerned, and so the term "Christian dating" is also not of God - these ideas are not of God but of men and so are sin against God. That is what I am saying. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Rosement:The only principles you are called to Live by, this by Jesus Christ, are they almost 100 laws/commandments which comprise what you know as popularly know as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. The Gospel is in fact God's New Covenant Law and agreement between God and man and is the Truth of God as contained in the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. It is against God's Law to add, change or remove even a jot from His Law - it is eternal, complete, and unchanging. So, where God has not commanded a thing, no man has authority to add or even change anything of God's Law. As for your churches, such none of what they do or teach are in accordance to God's Law, Jesus Christ, not only are they in violation of His Law, but also those of you who submit to and follow the doctrines and traditions of men( their churches included) do so against God. So this isn't about a pastor or mogs sin,but sin committed by all those who follow them and their teachings. Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Rosement(f): 10:51pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Act 23: 1-5, If Apostle Paul could correct himself when he criticized an High Priest unknowingly, who are you to criticize a man of God? Apostle Paul would have been right if he was not addressing an High Priest. If these was coming from a non-christian, I wouldn't have been troubled. But you are a Christian, you should understand that matters like this can only be treated in the Church of God or among Christians. Can your words win souls or change things? What exactly is your message? Should Christians stop attending Church or start criticising their Pastors? Or are you trying to create division in the Church of God? I don't get the message. It is only God that knows who will make Heaven, a Pastor might not make Heaven and majority of his members will make Heaven, it is not for us to decide, everything is the hands of God, only do what He sent you, win souls. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 10:55pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Rosement:Again, pay attention to what is being said so you don't keep going off on some meaningless tangent . The only principles you are called to Live by, this by Jesus Christ, are they almost 100 laws/commandments which comprise what you know as popularly know as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. The Gospel is in fact God's New Covenant Law and agreement between God and man and is the Truth of God as contained in the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. It is against God's Law to add, change or remove even a jot from His Law - it is eternal, complete, and unchanging. So, where God has not commanded a thing, no man has authority to add or even change anything of God's Law. As for your churches, such none of what they do or teach are in accordance to God's Law, Jesus Christ, not only are they in violation of His Law, but also those of you who submit to and follow the doctrines and traditions of men( their churches included) do so against God. So this isn't about a pastor or mogs sin,but sin committed by all those who follow them and their teachings. Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 An ordinary dating site is not an abomination to God, but a "Christian" dating site is, and this because your dating and the sites of them have absolutely nothing to do with God or the things of God. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Rosement(f): 11:03pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Well said but can you show me anywhere in the Bible where God made man a judge over His High Priest, Prophets, Pastors or Apostles. God did not permit us to judge any human being talkless of a Pastor. As long as He is chosen by God, he answers to God not man. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Kobojunkie: 11:09pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Rosement:Matthew 7 vs 15 - 27 - Jesus Christ warned you throughly against your false prophets and false teachers who will come peddling lies in His Name. Jesus Christ warned you severally against listening to and following their lies which only guarantee damnation for those who imbibe them - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 In the Kingdom of God, there is no such thing thing Chosen of God. That lie was fed you, this to decieve you with, by your Pastors and mogs. Jesus Christ said you should judge all things righteously, this according to His Law given to you by Him. And according to Him, those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments.. John 14 vs 15 - 25. Anyone who does not do this does not even Know Jesus Christ or belong to Him. |
Re: Re: In Defence Of RCCG City Of David Dating Site by Rosement(f): 2:21am On Dec 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:This days it seems God is only in Nigeria, some Nigerians are giving new meaning to sin day by day, they are now trying to dictate what sin is to God, to same God that created the laws. Matthew 5:20, Luke 12:1, You are sounding like the pharisees and sadducees, they knew the laws so well and they were following it blindly, they even accused Jesus of breaking the law a lot of times because He reacted differently in certain situations, not according to the law (meaning their interpretation of the law). This teaches us that every situation should has it own specific reaction. Jesus even ate on the same table with the tax collectors and sinners, Matthew 9:10-13. Those programs they are doing are means of evangelism, as long as they are winning souls for God, God will be happy with them. This is the 21st century, there are ways to go about things, a lot of people need to be encouraged to come to Church, this entertainments you hear of are just means of encouraging people. Go through all these verses below and you will realise that you are very wrong. Matthew 9:2-7 Matthew 22:15-22 Mark 2:23-28 Luke 7:39-50 Luke 11:37-41 Luke 14:1-6 John 8:3-11 If you really love God you will not be criticising His Pastor, you are just a law abiding Christian, you don't understand the excess of Love. The teaching of Jesus is based on Love because Love is above the law? The law was created for Love to reign, it was not created to put us in a box, it was created to guide us so that we will be conscious of what sin is. Your major focus should be on Love not on the laws because you can follow the laws and still be a sinner, you might just be keeping the laws to make Heaven, it is possible that you are not even be interested in loving your neighbours but God wants us to Love our neighbours genuinely because when we love our neighbours we are indirectly following the laws. Matthew 37-40. Having the knowledge of these things have helped me a lot when I'm in situations where I have to pick between Love and law, the mid-wives picked Love over law, they spared the lives of the Hebrew baby boys including Moses, they lied to the king to save the babies and God even blessed them but a foolish Christian would have refused to lie, obeyed the king and killed the babies. If we are God we will have condemned everybody to the extend that nobody will be left on earth. When the Bible said we should fear God, the Bible is not telling us to see God as a terrifying being. God wants us to Love Him and He wants our Love for Him to lead us to obey and fear Him. If somebody Loves God, the person will be scared of disobeying or dishonouring God, the person will definitely want God to be pleased with Him/Her. God did not instill fear into us instead God gave us freewill, He gave us a chance to find Him and come to Him ourselves. Out of Love, He gave us Pastors to tell us about Him and direct us to Him so that we can find Him easily. Pastor advertise God to us and use different methods to attract us to God, Ephesians 4:11-12. Remember Jesus Christ died for us 2,000 years old before we even existed, so even if we are working hard and putting in enough effort to please God, we need to understand that we are not doing God a favour, it is our compulsory obligations, we are not allowed to boast because salvation is a gift not a wage for the works we are doing or the work we have done, Ephesians 2:9. Mark my words, if you keep insulting Pastor Adeboye and other anointed men of God before the end of this month, you will see the rot of God. |
How I Was Led On / What Is The Name Of this Hair Style (pic) / Ee
Viewing this topic: 1 guest(s)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 148 |