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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KelvinCoaster(m): 11:02pm On Dec 03, 2021
Born2conquer:

Me i no talk igbo o
I said northerners and southerners which encompasses both the Igbos and Yorubas.

I do not understand your question but HAUSAs do fight for their own to the core while we southerners love the “I want to be the only Successful one in my family” mentality.

If an hausa man decide to tell his brothers about a vacancy and another southerner in the same office decide to keep mum about such opportunity, is that nepotism?

An hausa man will see an opportunity and invite as many people as people, southerner will see such and keep such opportunity to himself, is that Nepotism?

An hausa man will go any length to offer help and assistance to anybody that can speak his language but a yoruba man will act like You speaking yoruba to him in an official gathering is yoh being rude, is that NEPOTISM??


A northerner was allegedly arrested in Saudi Arabia for drug and every influential northerners, governors stood up and pressured the government to release her while another Lady was detained in Ivory Coast and nobody from the south (except david) spoke for her, not the governors, not the influential people and not the people from her state spoke out, is that nepotism??

We still have a very long way to go if we do not start showing unconditional love to ourselves in the south
Very apt.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 11:10pm On Dec 03, 2021
I understand the challenge but is it not better you reach out to the client for an amicable settlement rather than you sticking your head in the sand? Please don't let this matter degenerate beyond this, let it be resolved.

n3xt:




Unfortunately you can’t be an umpire in your own game.

How much refund are we looking and what exactly constitute the figures? That’s exactly what I’m still trying to wrap my head around in the past weeks.

Is it how I’m expected to refund 280 naira per block when I sold blocks at 200 naira per blocks throughout the lifetime of the project even when others are paying 250 naira and above?

Or how I’m expected to pay N3,800 per bag of cement when I have a fixed price contract sum pegged at N3,000 per bag of cement?

Or how I’m expected to value a 10sqm security house at almost the same amount as a 400sqm fence with 600mm raft, 22 columns and block wall?

This is far bigger than me hence the reason for my long silence on this matter.


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:14pm On Dec 03, 2021
Beframia:

I understand the challenge but is it not better you reach out to the client for an amicable settlement rather than you sticking your head in the sand? Please don't let this matter degenerate beyond this, let it be resolved.


One thing I can assure you is I don’t bury my head in any sand

I’ve gotten my client’s QS to review his valuation on this issue thrice when I started to pick holes in the report and I didn’t make up those things I saw. That’s for you to understand how far we’ve gone.

As at yesternight, I still left a message for my client that I’ll revert

Tbh, I’m just trying to find a middle ground so everyone wins

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:35pm On Dec 03, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kapelvej: 11:54pm On Dec 03, 2021
Please builders in the house, I have some questions. I gave a welder to construct a sliding gate for me 2 weeks ago, he brought the gate today, and he said I will be the one to pay for the casting of the base where the gate will slide on. I thought the welder was supposed to do that as part of the gate installation. ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 12:03am On Dec 04, 2021
rmx:


Interesting . Na my alma mata be that . Proudly an ex boy , unforgettable memories from that school and Zaria
Old soldier never die wink
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 12:09am On Dec 04, 2021
Beframia:
@ mufutau55 and AngelicBeing:
I could sense your feelings of nostalgia. Zaria hasn't changed much save for some few developments especially roads and new buildings. ABU, Aviation school, NMS, Army Depot are still there. Railways, still there but better be described as moribund unlike in your days when it was the major means of transportation. NTC (Nigerian Tobacco Company) was changed to BATC (British American Tobacco Company) and later closed down, what goes on there is rice milling operations. Your Cadbury and John Holt situated at Chikaji industrial estate are now used as warehouses for grains.
It's not a bad idea if you can still pay the city a visit at least once more in your life time just to relive old memories.

Yes, Zaria will always be a place l will call home and l will visit Zaria again whenever I am in Nigeria cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 12:19am On Dec 04, 2021
somehow:


$25,000 per year is #13, million naira

I am trying to understand your point with the above sir.

Are we talking about the cost of owning a house or rent?
Its both, I mean 2 family home, one apartment for owner rent free as far he services his mortgage. The second apartment, income rental of average let even say $1,900 monthly, no be like Lagos when tenets pay one year rent and live rent free for 2 years battling case with you in court. This is how many people in the west thinks, that why many many of them with a lot of wealth are not investing in Nigeria. Owning home in Nigeria is to have placed for self. If look at it as business, then you most invest a lot of more money that can even make one more better money in the west.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sgtponzihater1(m): 12:37am On Dec 04, 2021
Charisdesigns:


To approval standard ( considering the statutory set backs and parking limits) No it cant

For site use
Here’s what can possibly fit in

1unit of 4 bedrooms duplex
1 unit of 2 bedroom apartment
2 units of room and parlor self contain

Modified

.............

Here’s what we designed on a standard plot

3 units of 4 bedrooms duplex

You can write me on 08027314343 for the floor plan

How many SQM was your standard plot?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sgtponzihater1(m): 12:42am On Dec 04, 2021
kopell:
Simple reason for that, speculation and corrupt money everywhere, people think they are making progress. Imagine how could houses is more expensive in Lagos, Abuja and others big cities in Nigeria then UK, USA, Europe, Asia. Nigeria is the only Country on earth where prices of house triple in less the 10 years mid develop areas, with no any mini full economic growth.

It's totally false inflation. No basis for absurd price increase when basic amenities are lacking. Doubling the price of a land when development has taken a step backward

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:52am On Dec 04, 2021
n3xt:




Unfortunately you can’t be an umpire in your own game.

How much refund are we looking and what exactly constitute the figures? That’s exactly what I’m still trying to wrap my head around in the past weeks.

Is it how I’m expected to refund 280 naira per block when I sold blocks at 200 naira per blocks throughout the lifetime of the project even when others are paying 250 naira and above?

Or how I’m expected to pay N3,800 per bag of cement when I have a fixed price contract sum pegged at N3,000 per bag of cement?

Or how I’m expected to value a 10sqm security house at almost the same amount as a 400sqm fence with 600mm raft, 22 columns and block wall?

This is far bigger than me hence the reason for my long silence on this matter.



Does your client know that you are "trying to wrap your head around" the contrary figures you posted or you are wrapping your head in isolation?

Do you have mutually agreed and signed documents to back up the contrary figures you quoted? If yes, have you presented these documents in a cordial way and manner to your clients to iron out the discrepancies (if there are any)? Or you just assume your client will tire out and the "problem" will go away?

Have you accepted before now that you are going to restitute your client as your client from their post seems to be expecting your restitution? If I can remember, way back in one of your posts, you promised to restitute in no time. That the wait will not be long.

If you had promised to restitute (as I remember you did in one of your posts), why are you "now wrapping your head"? Did the figures change after you have promised to restitute?

Go back to your client with the documents you have (if you've not already done so) and trash out any gray areas (if there are indeed gray areas) and OFFER meaningful restitution (unless you are not accepting any liability). This will leave the ball in your client's court to accept the offer or not or even open up further options. In this situation, there will now be a direction of travel.

"Wrapping your head" is just giving your client the classical run-around which is not on in this situation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sgtponzihater1(m): 1:01am On Dec 04, 2021
I visited in an estate in the UK that beats the flats in Ikoyi. It had lovely lush fields. Play grounds for kids, extensive green spaces and pastures and kerbs for pedestrians. I compared the beauty of this large estate with the famous banana Island, and banana Island seemed a joke. The rent was £550 a month for a 2 bedroom flat. The landlord put up the flat for sale at £100,000. Only to see poorly planed flats selling for as much as £250million because it's banana Island.

As elegant as these estates are abroad, the middle class can assess it. This is far from the case in Naija

The other criminal offence is the advent of service charge. Naija estates are now asking residents who have bought houses at already outrageous prices to pay service charge of up to 2 million for year. What's then the use of owning your own property.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 1:46am On Dec 04, 2021
sgtponzihater1:
I visited in an estate in the UK that beats the flats in Ikoyi. It had lovely lush fields. Play grounds for kids, extensive green spaces and pastures and kerbs for pedestrians. I compared the beauty of this large estate with the famous banana Island, and banana Island seemed a joke. The rent was £550 a month for a 2 bedroom flat. The landlord put up the flat for sale at £100,000. Only to see poorly planed flats selling for as much as £250million because it's banana Island.

As elegant as these estates are abroad, the middle class can assess it. This is far from the case in Naija

The other criminal offence is the advent of service charge. Naija estates are now asking residents who have bought houses at already outrageous prices to pay service charge of up to 2 million for year. What's then the use of owning you own property.


Service Charge sounds like a way to make landlords tenants-in-fact and landlords-in-name

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 1:51am On Dec 04, 2021
hslbroker2:
have u ever test the spend of light? Speed of light that astronauts experience is light x 1000 of the speed I'm telling you, from lagos to port on power bike is less than 4hours, if u don't stop @240 kmp

Hmmmmm

The roads between both places are in pretty good shape but as far as I know you cannot get to PH without making stops at all the checkpoints as you get into Rivers State.

Unless they treat bikes differently.

I drive fast too but thread is not the time or place to speak on that (I don't ride bikes though), but if you said 6 hours, I would wager it is possible, but 4 hours? sounds like magic to me.

If you truly, did it in 4 hours, maximum respect

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:09am On Dec 04, 2021
diordaves:


Does your client know that you are "trying to wrap your head around" the contrary figures you posted or you are wrapping your head in isolation?


No.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 3:41am On Dec 04, 2021
FEGEITOK:


Hmmmmm

The roads between both places are in pretty good shape but as far as I know you cannot get to PH without making stops at all the checkpoints as you get into Rivers State.

Unless they treat bikes differently.

I drive fast too but thread is not the time or place to speak on that (I don't ride bikes though), but if you said 6 hours, I would wager it is possible, but 4 hours? sounds like magic to me.

If you truly, did it in 4 hours, maximum respect

They actually do. Sports bikes are waved through but I always slow to a crawl at checkpoints for safety.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 3:50am On Dec 04, 2021
kapelvej:
Please builders in the house, I have some questions. I gave a welder to construct a sliding gate for me 2 weeks ago, he brought the gate today, and he said I will be the one to pay for the casting [/b]of the base where the gate will slide on. I [b]thought the welder was supposed to do that as part of the gate installation. ?

You have answered yourself from your post. You told him to construct. If installation is not part of your discussions at the beginning, you are responsible for mounting your gate and its parts. Yes, your welder can be there during the installation to be sure they put the parts together appropriately.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:58am On Dec 04, 2021
kapelvej:
Please builders in the house, I have some questions. I gave a welder to construct a sliding gate for me 2 weeks ago, he brought the gate today, and he said I will be the one to pay for the casting of the base where the gate will slide on. I thought the welder was supposed to do that as part of the gate installation. ?

Just as answered above.

You paid for gate fabrication/construction and not gate installation unless you both agreed his cost includes installation of the gate.

Installation of gates involves many other tradesmen which includes but not limited to carpenters, concreters, diggers, electrician etc.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Newhomex: 4:13am On Dec 04, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:53am On Dec 04, 2021
folmus:


You have answered yourself from your post. You told him to construct. If installation is not part of your discussions at the beginning, you are responsible for mounting your gate and its parts. Yes, your welder can be there during the installation to be sure they put the parts together appropriately.


I concur.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 5:04am On Dec 04, 2021
kapelvej:
Please builders in the house, I have some questions. I gave a welder to construct a sliding gate for me 2 weeks ago, he brought the gate today, and he said I will be the one to pay for the casting of the base where the gate will slide on. I thought the welder was supposed to do that as part of the gate installation. ?
no sir. Casting of the base is part of your fence building. However he's supposed to bring anchorage which will firmly hold the gate in place
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by haul: 5:14am On Dec 04, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AlphamaleTech1(m): 5:50am On Dec 04, 2021
DancingSkeleton:
what then happens to the waste?


The human waste is degradable in nature,so it will be degraded while the water dries off in the soaking pit.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AlphamaleTech1(m): 5:51am On Dec 04, 2021
Jeff68:


I texted u on WhatsApp, still waiting for a response.

Very sorry about that,av not been online for a while, hope I have replied you already??
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:20am On Dec 04, 2021
FEGEITOK:


Service Charge sounds like a way to make landlords tenants-in-fact and landlords-in-name

Gbam-solutely! Especially with Naija real estate companies.

I smiled when one was listing what I’d get if I buy from their estate (good road, electricity, perimeter fencing, drainage and security).
I told him I know better and I actually live a street that has all he listed and we didn’t spend fortune to achieve it. We just included it in our construction budget and did a one time installation of infrastructures.

Last year we dredged over 5km waterway to prevent flooding. We spent just 430k. No dramas, no harassment. Just simple donation by few.

I’d still follow same route (gated community) if I’m doing any development in any state in Nigeria. I can’t be living as a tenant in my own property.

You need to see the dramas and embarrassment when the estate managers are out to chase defaulters in my former place of residence. We’d be in traffic for several hours while the gate is locked to prevent defaulters from leaving the Estate.

For me, it’s completely absurd and total rip-off. A lot of these property owners can actually afford to put up all these infrastructure (one-off) by themselves without having to revisit it every damn year.

I’m talking about the big gate/big signage flashing estates and not the legitimate ones with solid management structure like Royal Gardens Estate, Osborne etc

#sharedcost #gatedcommunity

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Shegman22(m): 6:27am On Dec 04, 2021
haul:
Does anyone know a good roof aluminum factory in ibadan . Kindly let me know
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:14am On Dec 04, 2021
n3xt:


No.

24th of November was when you reached out to me for a "resolution", a day before the first deadline. Then I told you everything must be sorted before month end (November).

I didn't hear anything from you, I tried calling you, your number kept saying "on another call for days"

I left you short messages asking for updates.

You only left "Good morning sir" on the 29th and nothing again till 2nd of December stating you have been "incommunicado" since, then said you will "revert ".

In 9 days, you said nothing about the refund, so what are you saying here?

All I know is that my refund must come within 7 days (day 2 counting).

This is a termination that happened since September 25th.

Enough said.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 7:50am On Dec 04, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:55am On Dec 04, 2021
somehow:


24th of November was when you reached out to me for a "resolution", a day before the first deadline. Then I told you everything must be sorted before month end (November).

I didn't hear anything from you, I tried calling you, your number kept saying "on another call for days"

I left you short messages asking for updates.

You only left "Good morning sir" on the 29th and nothing again till 2nd of December stating you have been "incommunicado" since, then said you will "revert ".

In 9 days, you said nothing about the refund, so what are you saying here?

All I know is that my refund must come within 7 days (day 2 counting).

This is a termination that happened since September 25th.

Enough said.

How much refund are we looking at sir? And what constitute that figure maybe you can share so that people can understand why my head is tuning on its own.

Is it the figure in the review 1 or review 2 or review 3 or my own figure?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 7:56am On Dec 04, 2021

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 8:02am On Dec 04, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


They actually do. Sports bikes are waved through but I always slow to a crawl at checkpoints for safety.

Nice to learn.

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