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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:00pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
sonnie10: The QS valued the material met on site at the contract price Blocks - 200 Cement - 3,000 The QS now presented a bill of 3,800 to me per bag of cement to rebuy the same cement he met on site that I provided at 3,000 Th same applied to the blocks. The report claimed my client bought blocks at 280 after selling the ones that I produced on site at 200 to only God knows person. I smiled and smiled. ______ Lastly the report claimed an outrageous number of blocks were used to complete a portion of the project that were ongoing as at 25th September. I presented the time stamped picture of the building as at 24th and 25th September to the QS and asked him to show me where the blocks were used on the building
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 5:10pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
n3xt: Bosun, Would you rather do this here than get your own Qs to provide your own reconciliation quotes and have all your arguments in there... This is whole thing does need to be here but in dm's with Oga somehow ... 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:10pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
There was a valid claim that my client spent some extra money on to do some remedial work on the steel trusses installed. When this was brought to my notice, here’s my position. Unfortunately my client had a better plan. I got the rudest shock when my client said the QS said he should pass the bill to me. Who am I to stop him from spending monies that the QS who picked the contractor recommended that he should spend.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 5:12pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
bolu1986: Rather unfair to insinuate.... 7 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 5:30pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
A confirmed thief, rogue and armed robber came to me in 2015 and told me he has repented from stealing. He told me he's a changed person and no longer takes what doesn't belong to him. My question to him was "Who did you sell your thiefry and jibiti to? " "Did they do a surgical b operation to remove your stealing talents" The thing wey dey smell for he-goat body dey him blood, no amount of soap and water can wash it out. Just passing sha. 13 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:41pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
n3xt:Let’s not fan the flame of rancor by keeping it low. The client does not appear be someone who would sell blocks. Even an illiterate knows that there is time value for money. Much more in Nigeria where the official annual inflation rate from January 2021 to October 2021 is about 17.5%. Do the maths yourself for both materials you have used as example and you would discover that the QS is not far from the current reality. Now, because actual market price does necessarily follow official inflation rate, there is bound to be some differences, often times a high amount. Restoring client to their original state is the standard and should be the goal and fair thing to do here. Client original state is that he was able to pay full for all aspects of the original contract amount as at the time of payment. Remember innoson vs GT bank even up till Supreme Court, that was the position. Why do think he is being awarded more? A compromise is still possible. Client cannot get cement for #3000 as at today. If current price is #3800, but at 17.5% inflation rate it is should be about #3550. Do you think it’s a fair compromise? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:55pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
sonnie10: Cement was never sold 3,000 at anytime this year but I kept my figures at 3,000 during the lifetime of the project. Neither did any blockmaker sold blocks at 200 at any time in the year 2021 but I kept my part of the bargain so that question of underquoting to pick a contract doesn’t arise. So the issue of inflation didn’t start in October. 3350 seems more like a WIN/WIN. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:16pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
rmx: l know, l also feel sad to say this to you, that my LATE UNCLE was also a product of NMS, from their to NDA KADUNA, from their to different courses abroad in different countries and finally posted to Lagos He was undergoing a course at Command and staff college (CSC jaji), he came to Lagos with other officers and his course mates but he entered the HERCULES 130 PLANE that crashed at Ejigbo and he died along with several other officers, That course after completing it would have made him a Naval Commander but God knows the best, Rip to Him and other officers in that ill-fated aircraft 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 6:17pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
n3xt:Mr Bosun, we know cement was never #3000 at any time during the year. But one thing is certain, you cannot eat the meat of the contract and leave the bone for the client. I remember vividly having the discussion with you here around that period regarding how blocks could be made or obtained at the #200 price. The truth is that it is Economics of scale and not really a discount in the true sense of it. You were able to do that due to the scope of the project (client’s input) and your capacity to handle such (contractor’s input). The incomplete portion of job is no longer up to such scale, thus the retail price of blocks. Your #3350 price for cement should be considered fair. The reason is because only 6 months have passed. 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:24pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
twinskenny:Hian, you need to visit Oyedepos schools, Secondary, Primary and the Universities under WINNERS CHAPEL, you go see super structures |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:28pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
AngelicBeing: RIP to our Uncle. I am an Army Officer that never become one for some personal reason. I know the drill Sir. RIP again. Hajji M. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:34pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
mufutau55:Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:02pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
AngelicBeing:true o … but this old man really try here |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by justified007: 7:45pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
somehow:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 7:53pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
dongc:not insinuating anything sir… just asking an innocent questions 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rmx: 8:21pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
AngelicBeing: My condolence , sadly it comes with the territory , remember the incidence well , affected mostly captains and majors . Your uncle Was going to be the equivalent of a lieutenant colonel . May his soul Rest In Peace . 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 10:55pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
rmx: Amen |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 10:56pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
mufutau55: Once again rest in peace 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 10:57pm On Dec 04, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 12:56am On Dec 05, 2021 |
sgtponzihater1:Last paragraph is what I will never UNDERSTAND in Lagos island, I bought a property from you, paid in cash and I will still have to pay over 1M to you yearly for service charge? Is this not the seller eating his cake and still having it? Ikoyi and banana island for example, service charge is up to 3M and above 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 4:17am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Hmmmmmmmmmm Like play, like play. . . . . .truly sad. 8 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Greenarrow01(m): 7:46am On Dec 05, 2021 |
AngelicBeing: I schooled in st Bath Before you get to kufena Barka da zuwa |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 7:58am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Happy new week and happy Sunday forumites Make una go dress dey go church ooo |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 8:07am On Dec 05, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 8:45am On Dec 05, 2021 |
MMotimo: Your juju is powerful, where is the baba located? 7 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 9:26am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Greenarrow01:Really My immediate elder sister was also a product of St Bartholomew school |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PrimeQuay: 9:27am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Thanks Oga Spyder. Kindly help with cost of the woody tan per sqm spyder880: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:58am On Dec 05, 2021 |
shortgun: Hello! Pls do you have anyone you can recommend for this? Thanks and please kindly treat as urgent. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:06am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Plastering of this 6bedroom duplex is still in progress cleaning of site is paramount to us
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 10:31am On Dec 05, 2021 |
Born2conquer: There is an estate after Ajah own by a well know man in Lagos . The yearly service charge is 3m and presently a plot is now 200m. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 10:33am On Dec 05, 2021 |
rotecch77: I do admire how clean your building sites are.. If I may ask, do you pay extra for this service or just the workers cleaning up after themselves as part of their regular pay? 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 10:34am On Dec 05, 2021 |
vanbonattel: Lolzzz.. the thing go dey him blood. 2 Likes |
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