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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by inphoenix: 3:06am On Dec 05, 2021
Ticha:


Pop of India - 1.38b, Pop of Nigeria - 206m. We can't even begin to compete in terms of the sheer number of people they have to be employed in these places.

I do agree with you tho that the Asians (Indians, Pakistanis especially) will unite to lift themselves. I was chatting with a Nigerian friend about how all corner shops are owned by Indians who employ only Indians. They will live 3 families to one house and pay down the mortgage on that, then pool resources and buy for the next person then rinse and repeat. They will not only employ family members but sort visas etc. Our people no go gree to share house like that o

It's a lot harder for us to do so abroad even though we do it at back home. It's an interesting phenomenon!

The part in bold! Our people talking about "inconvenience". It makes me sad that people justify this "phenomenon". Notice how most Nigerian success stories abroad touch on individuals, not much impact to community, whereas these Asians (and Jews as another case in point) control empires that benefit generations. We sit here and whine about inconvenience when we should be rallying and building ourselves up. Hian!

I lived with family together with my dependant while I was studying, it was not only inconvenient for our hosts, but for us as well, but the strategy was to adjust while keeping an eye on the end goal. This allowed me save on the cost of renting such that with my 20hr weekly income, I was able to make up my tuition conveniently, something we are made to believe is not possible.

I see a lot of foreign students especially suffering unnecessarily simply because their presence will be inconvenient to someone who is supposed to be family. Rather than work on regulating our behaviour and focus on a greater good... We all have our stories and experiences which I am by no means trying to discount, we just need to tell ourselves the truth and do better as a bloc

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by LagosismyHome(f): 4:09am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:


£2285.00 kpere at HMP .......... cheesy

Bed & Breakfast + lunch and Dinner, only for 11 nights..... wink

There goes dirty December plans all in thin air now.... chei after all the trouble of booking tickets and all .
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 4:33am On Dec 05, 2021
LagosismyHome:


There goes dirty December plans all in thin air now.... chei after all the trouble of booking tickets and all .


Omicron is not smiling......... cheesy
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by LagosismyHome(f): 4:37am On Dec 05, 2021
inphoenix:


The part in bold! Our people talking about "inconvenience". It makes me sad that people justify this "phenomenon". Notice how most Nigerian success stories abroad touch on individuals, not much impact to community, whereas these Asians (and Jews as another case in point) control empires that benefit generations. We sit here and whine about inconvenience when we should be rallying and building ourselves up. Hian!

I lived with family together with my dependant while I was studying, it was not only inconvenient for our hosts, but for us as well, but the strategy was to adjust while keeping an eye on the end goal. This allowed me save on the cost of renting such that with my 20hr weekly income, I was able to make up my tuition conveniently, something we are made to believe is not possible.

I see a lot of foreign students especially suffering unnecessarily simply because their presence will be inconvenient to someone who is supposed to be family. Rather than work on regulating our behaviour and focus on a greater good... We all have our stories and experiences which I am by no means trying to discount, we just need to tell ourselves the truth and do better as a bloc

It would be interesting to see once you settled down, how many or if you would extend the same to others...... host a family as you mentioned above.

Kudos to anyone doing it, but in the UK it is not easy due to many factors. Person salary never sustain am then it to add another load.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by LagosismyHome(f): 4:39am On Dec 05, 2021
Ticha:


Pop of India - 1.38b, Pop of Nigeria - 206m. We can't even begin to compete in terms of the sheer number of people they have to be employed in these places.

I do agree with you tho that the Asians (Indians, Pakistanis especially) will unite to lift themselves. I was chatting with a Nigerian friend about how all corner shops are owned by Indians who employ only Indians. They will live 3 families to one house and pay down the mortgage on that, then pool resources and buy for the next person then rinse and repeat. They will not only employ family members but sort visas etc. Our people no go gree to share house like that o

It's a lot harder for us to do so abroad even though we do it at back home. It's an interesting phenomenon!

Do we really do it back home now.... our parents did yes but does that world still exist ?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 5:02am On Dec 05, 2021
inphoenix:


The part in bold! Our people talking about "inconvenience". It makes me sad that people justify this "phenomenon". Notice how most Nigerian success stories abroad touch on individuals, not much impact to community, whereas these Asians (and Jews as another case in point) control empires that benefit generations. We sit here and whine about inconvenience when we should be rallying and building ourselves up. Hian!

I lived with family together with my dependant while I was studying, it was not only inconvenient for our hosts, but for us as well, but the strategy was to adjust while keeping an eye on the end goal. This allowed me save on the cost of renting such that with my 20hr weekly income, I was able to make up my tuition conveniently, something we are made to believe is not possible.

I see a lot of foreign students especially suffering unnecessarily simply because their presence will be inconvenient to someone who is supposed to be family. Rather than work on regulating our behaviour and focus on a greater good... We all have our stories and experiences which I am by no means trying to discount, we just need to tell ourselves the truth and do better as a bloc

How could other students, from the said 20 hours WTR, they would have to pay rent, pay bills, feed, drink, mobile phone bills, transport, buy books, send money home ........ etc etc etc

So you see, it's truly very difficult without proper planning (that clicks)........ cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Obanla845: 5:13am On Dec 05, 2021
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Ticha: 5:50am On Dec 05, 2021
LagosismyHome:


Do we really do it back home now.... our parents did yes but does that world still exist ?

Good point as I'm sort of basing it on when I growing up. Saying that, my sister is still doing the same thing but I guess it's less widespread cos her children definitely don't know their cousins and extended relations like we did.

My husband says I collect people. He's a saint to be honest when it comes to our culture. There are always people in my home but I also set very hard boundaries and operate a one strike principle but I'd never see anyone struggling and not offer a helping hand.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 6:44am On Dec 05, 2021
gistbite:


Use wakanow to book. Their prices and the official website prices are the same. You can use your card to pay or transfer.


Thanks

As they have banned us now, plans don change

cry
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 6:50am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:


£2285.00 kpere at HMP .......... cheesy

Bed & Breakfast + lunch and Dinner, only for 11 nights..... wink


I am just here praying my school asks us to switch to online studies for now cos mehn £2K is not beans naw


Chei
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 6:51am On Dec 05, 2021
dustydee:

You can always clear your cache.


Right

Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by gistbite(f): 7:40am On Dec 05, 2021
hustla:



Thanks

As they have banned us now, plans don change

cry

I want to cry. I already booked for this week
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 8:04am On Dec 05, 2021
inphoenix:


The part in bold! Our people talking about "inconvenience". It makes me sad that people justify this "phenomenon". Notice how most Nigerian success stories abroad touch on individuals, not much impact to community, whereas these Asians (and Jews as another case in point) control empires that benefit generations. We sit here and whine about inconvenience when we should be rallying and building ourselves up. Hian!

I lived with family together with my dependant while I was studying, it was not only inconvenient for our hosts, but for us as well, but the strategy was to adjust while keeping an eye on the end goal. This allowed me save on the cost of renting such that with my 20hr weekly income, I was able to make up my tuition conveniently, something we are made to believe is not possible.

I see a lot of foreign students especially suffering unnecessarily simply because their presence will be inconvenient to someone who is supposed to be family. Rather than work on regulating our behaviour and focus on a greater good... We all have our stories and experiences which I am by no means trying to discount, we just need to tell ourselves the truth and do better as a bloc

You gave the cause and the solution in the same sentence.
You and your dependant saved on rent, utilities, possibly food, etc. and so you were able to make up your tuition.
For those who have to pay all those things from 20 hours a week income, your second assertion is still generally true.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 8:42am On Dec 05, 2021
inphoenix:


What if you find one Nigerian from Nigeria who did NONE of these things? In fact the guest hates the heater because it gives them headache, guest buys groceries before their host does, chose a utility bill without being asked and paid consistently, cooked, cleaned etc, but when the host could not find any excuses, suddenly "just needs their space". Obodo oyinbo! Hian!

Not complaining o!


If the guest can do all these things then they can certainly get their own place and their dignity intact.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 8:47am On Dec 05, 2021
LagosismyHome:


Do we really do it back home now.... our parents did yes but does that world still exist ?

Unfortunately, that world doesnt exist anymore in the Nigerian societal sphere.
When the get-rich-quick and money-above-all mentality got the upper hand in our society, it produced a dog-eat-dog mindset which swept away a lot of the values our parents and we in the early part of our formative years grew up with.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 8:56am On Dec 05, 2021
LagosismyHome:


Until you walk in this shoe , is all I can say. Its not an easy waka taking in others, carrying your load and another person (even if na sibling) ..... but I give it to the Asians. Them dey try when it comes to lifting each other even of its a great inconvenience

Picture seen and copied from facebook, don't know the author

It takes two to tango.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 8:57am On Dec 05, 2021
Another thing, which I see no-one has mentioned, is that some people simply do not want to take responsibility for someone else in a new land, which is what your housing them entails. For instance, when I had young family members who used to stay with me in Lagos, maintaining the relationship was easy. You have your 1-strike rule - if they do something I feel warrants eviction, I put them on the next bus or plane to wherever they came from, offer them the fare and pocket money for the trip and problem solved. I might have to field the odd call from an aunt, uncle or grandparent asking me why I did that to my "own blood", but that's easily dealt with.

Some people who consent to someone coming to live with them in the UK would find it difficult to turf them out in such cases. They are not going to send a relation away then pay their rent in the UK. And since they don't want to put themselves in a situation where emotion is battling with or overrides rational judgement, they simply avoid it in the first place.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 9:12am On Dec 05, 2021
Ticha:


Pop of India - 1.38b, Pop of Nigeria - 206m. We can't even begin to compete in terms of the sheer number of people they have to be employed in these places.

I do agree with you tho that the Asians (Indians, Pakistanis especially) will unite to lift themselves. I was chatting with a Nigerian friend about how all corner shops are owned by Indians who employ only Indians. They will live 3 families to one house and pay down the mortgage on that, then pool resources and buy for the next person then rinse and repeat. They will not only employ family members but sort visas etc. Our people no go gree to share house like that o

It's a lot harder for us to do so abroad even though we do it at back home. It's an interesting phenomenon!

Set up a business and employ Nigerian relative, they will run it into the ground for you and even bankrupt you in the process. The Asians truly care about each other and it’s a two way relationship. In Nigeria there is a sense of entitlement that is misplaced.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 9:15am On Dec 05, 2021
TRAY2:
I am suspecting folks with fake Negative COVID result got us into this mess.

Isn’t this always the case with Nigerians, bribe their way out of everything.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:18am On Dec 05, 2021
marylandcakes:


Set up a business and employ Nigerian relative, they will run it into the ground for you and even bankrupt you in the process. The Asians truly are about each other and it’s a two way relationship. In Nigeria there is a sense of entitlement that is misplaced.


Kanu & His brother, comes to mind ............ cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 9:23am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:



Kanu & His brother, comes to mind ............ cheesy

grin grin

I am talking from experience and I wouldn’t be doing it again.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:26am On Dec 05, 2021
marylandcakes:


grin grin

I am talking from experience and I wouldn’t be doing it again.


You got your cakes burnt, on maryland bridge......... cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 9:29am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:



You got your cakes burnt, on maryland bridge......... cheesy


Something like that. And both hands fingers and pockets … grin grin grin grin

Yes I can laugh about it now but at the time it happened it wasn’t funny.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:42am On Dec 05, 2021
marylandcakes:



Something like that. And both hands fingers and pockets … grin grin grin grin

Yes I can laugh about it now but at the time it happened it wasn’t funny.


You dupe me once, shame on you .......... grin

Dupe me twice, shame on me ......... wink

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 9:47am On Dec 05, 2021
Just won £25.00 on PayPal draw ........


Time to go splash out ......... grin

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by LagosismyHome(f): 10:08am On Dec 05, 2021
marylandcakes:


It takes two to tango.

My sister

I been a believer of as I am rising let me uplift others, but I noticed in Nigeria once you constantly help someone its becomes entitlement and ingratitude. Now I do one help and keep it moving..... a friend once worked in a transport business. She said nobody ate the owners money like his own relatives. The same people he trusted made sure they ran it to the ground because of the confident na their brother thing , he can't accuse or fire them

a lot of our people don't understand that love is two way

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by inphoenix: 10:12am On Dec 05, 2021
LagosismyHome:


It would be interesting to see once you settled down, how many or if you would extend the same to others...... host a family as you mentioned above.


Kudos to anyone doing it, but in the UK it is not easy due to many factors. Person salary never sustain am then it to add another load.

Why not? I certainly will and do even better. We rise by lifting others up. These Asians are in this same UK too na, experience the same factors and on the same salary. If them, why not us?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 10:20am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:



You dupe me once, shame on you .......... grin

Dupe me twice, shame on me ......... wink

You are right, now I have one disowned relative and his immediate family that I don’t have to worry about.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by marylandcakes: 10:22am On Dec 05, 2021
LagosismyHome:


My sister

I been a believer of as I am rising let me uplift others, but I noticed in Nigeria once you constantly help someone its becomes entitlement and ingratitude. Now I do one help and keep it moving..... a friend once worked in a transport business. She said nobody ate the owners money like his own relatives. The same people he trusted made sure they ran it to the ground because of the confident na their brother thing , he can't accuse or fire them

a lot of our people don't understand that love is two way

When you try to help this people their mentality is that there’s plenty more where that came from. It’s sickening to be honest

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Crazeworld(m): 10:32am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:
Just won £25.00 on PayPal draw ........


Time to go splash out ......... grin
Can you help me make Paypal payment of $149?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:36am On Dec 05, 2021
gistbite:


I want to cry. I already booked for this week


Booked for the quarantine stuff or ticket
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by AirBay: 10:49am On Dec 05, 2021
Lexusgs430:
Just won £25.00 on PayPal draw ........


Time to go splash out ......... grin

Baba share some chinchin for boys grin

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