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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Laurene: 9:12am On Dec 05, 2021
dkdmy:
This is not the solution! They need to de-legalize guns and drugs!

So many mad people in this US. Please if you are in the US, try not to fight with this people o, many of them can easily get a Gun and kill. Just learn to waka pass
guns don't kill people!
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by matm: 9:30am On Dec 05, 2021
pls don't charge him.pamper him for he is underage.
Remember it is a crime to spank a child in US.
So charging him is child abuse.
sycophants who champion campaign against rape,child abuse,sexual pervasion but allow all manners of degrading sexual pervasions on d cyber space which are accessed by both adults and kids they claim to be protecting.I will take US fight against child abuse seriously when they rise against pornography which is open to all on d internet including kids.

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by pafo(m): 10:01am On Dec 05, 2021
backbencher:


I don't think they are looking at parole for this one.

Plus being sentenced with parole, does not mean you would get parole.

There is one prisoner who committed a school shooting decades ago. As at five years ago, she had her request for parole denied.

Modified

Brenda Spencer, the prisoner i referenced above, was sentenced by 1980. She was eligible for parole by 2005. It was rejected. 2009, rejected, and told to come back in 10 years. Next parole hearing , 2022. No chance she would get it. (And she killed [/b]just 2 kids[b].)

For more infor about the crime she committed..see here.

Pere
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by ChiefSosa(m): 10:04am On Dec 05, 2021
Laurene:
unlike black kids that are arrogant, thuggish and develop into criminals.
Lol, you're right about that. Black women want to be bad bitches, while the men want to be gang members, drug dealers, etc There's lots of fuckery and ignorant things going on in the black community, that's why I sometimes see the hypocrisy in the BLM movement.
Most black folks get into these crazy lifestyle due to their background and the environment they were raised in; not because they just want to be involved in the crazy lifestyle. But, you have some white folks that's been in the suburbs all their life, but they'll still want to act like black folks from the ghetto, act tough and do ignorant things.

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Nobody: 10:10am On Dec 05, 2021
pafo:


Pere

Comment was meant to show that if Ms Spencer who killed 2 children cannot get parole, why should we expect Master crumbley who killed 4 and wounded 6 to ten people to get parole?

It was meant for contrast, not to downplay anyone's death. Sorry I wasn't clear enough
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by anataala: 10:34am On Dec 05, 2021
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Tobidarker02: 11:12am On Dec 05, 2021
backbencher:


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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by emae009(m): 11:25am On Dec 05, 2021
suffering:
He’ll be out at 41 and hopefully not a better criminal. Gun laws keep prisons full. Prisons make an insane amount of money off cheap labour and inflated product prices. He should enjoy school lunches for most of his upcoming adult life. The parents are innocent, they did what most Americans would do for their children. He should take all the blame for his actions unless firearms aren’t meant for minors in his state of residence.

the parents were not innocent at all. Glad they are charged with involuntary manslaughter

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by emae009(m): 11:28am On Dec 05, 2021
backbencher:


At least one less killer off the street.

Plus, think about it...if you had your ability to move freely constricted within 4 walls for years, that's punishment itself.

I don't agree, premeditated murderers like this should shot on sight, no paper work or anything. whether psychotic or otherwise.
And their guardians locked up in jail for 10 - 25.
A lot of these folks will think twice before shooting at people in public because not only will you die, your folks will pay for your crime
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by emae009(m): 11:30am On Dec 05, 2021
okoIYAyin:


You've said it all! Some fools will open their trash hole later and start saying guns don't kill but people do yen yen yen, if people don't have access to the gun, how can they kill with it.

knives, machetes, hands, bottles, bows and arrows, ropes, anything is a deadly weapon in the hands of a killer
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by emae009(m): 11:39am On Dec 05, 2021
suffering:
Spoken like a true Nairalander. That boy will get either 26 years or a life imprisonment with the possibility of parole. He will not get the death sentence based on his age and the terrorism charge was added to sensationalize the news. Watch and see. The problem I have is you people hardly go back on your words.

have you been following the news? The prosecutor is going for life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. Also charging the parents with 4 counts of involuntary manslaughter

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by musicwriter(m): 11:40am On Dec 05, 2021
SeriouslySense:
Does nature really store such crime tendencies in our genes, interesting? I would like an in-depth explanation of this, as possible.

Of course, all the school shootings you hear in Western countries didn't come out of the blues. It has a cause but which isn't palatable, and therefore, isn't being discussed.

If you check the shooter's bloodline, you'll discover his greatgrand parents shot innocent people for fun. Now, what the cells in our bodies do is archive such traits in the gene and pass it on to the next generation. You too inherited some traits from your parents. Even me. In fact, everyone. That's what hereditary in science of genetics is about. But that part is left out in white scholarship when discussing this school shooting because they know what they'll say if it has to be taught in school that way.

Fortunately, metaphysics explains that we're on this earth to cleanse ourselves of any old burdens and old baggages left in previous lives. Again, the whole saying of "reap what you sow" or "there's no rest for the wicked" came out of that. That's the proper context, not the nonsense taught by religions. His bloodline would keep killing people until they redeemed themselves of their sins by simply stopping to do it, otherwise, they'll continue living in hell right here and now on earth. And that's the real meaning of being in hell fire FOREVER, and not the religious nonsense.

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by emae009(m): 11:41am On Dec 05, 2021
goslowgoslow:

Lol my brother I taya o. If you read the latest gun laws in Texas that took effect in September you will be shocked.
For example you longer need permit and training to carry gun in Texas ( imagine a psychopath with gun) You can now carry your gun openly in Texas etc. It is really crazy

Texas is the wild west, deep down they want to break from the Union but they can't so they always go above and over on matters. Check out their other laws, you will be more surprised
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by emae009(m): 11:49am On Dec 05, 2021
Pymetrics:
Would all comments says the same thing if the culprit name is replaced with Ali Umar? Everyone is condemning his act without referencing his tribe or faith. Then why injustice by attacking religion when someone committed similar crime but bearing name related to a region or religion?

because we don't know of many white extremists terrorist groups waging wars all over the world.
There's no sign that the boy was groom from a young age by a group to do what he did but he did it all on his own.
Your fictitious character 90% of the time will belong to a particular group that will have brainwashed him to believe what he did is serving a righteous purpose for a said religion. So yeah the religion will be blame.
It's like having a Nigerian passport in India. Nobody wants to know if your family is a priesthood or Imam, once you're holding a Nigerian passport, you're already a drug smuggler suspect.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by SeriouslySense(m): 11:52am On Dec 05, 2021
thank you, it really explains some things, like passing the memory of what some did to the cells, or such traits being encoded into the genes,

and it also has positive implications, for instance, what we improve upon, or the positive experiences can also be passed unto the cells and encoded.

That being said, the individual is still a sum of both the positive traits and negative traits and it's up to the individual to manifest any, given the environment, experiences, and choices.

And we are also not restricted to past traits that were passed down, since, when we are born, we are also clean beings, who will grow to become who we are based on learning, understanding, self-awareness, and experiences.


musicwriter:


Of course, all the school shootings you hear in Western countries didn't come out of the blues. It has a cause but which isn't palatable, and therefore, isn't being discussed.

If you check the shooter's bloodline, you'll discover his greatgrand parents shot innocent people for fun. Now, what the cells in our bodies do is archive such traits in the gene and pass it on to the next generation. You too inherited some traits from your parents. Even me. In fact, everyone. That's what hereditary in science of genetics is about. But that part is left out in white scholarship when discussing this school shooting because they know what they'll say if it has to be taught in school that way.

Fortunately, metaphysics explains that we're on this earth to cleanse ourselves of any old burdens and old baggages left in previous lives. Again, the whole saying of "reap what you sow" or "there's no rest for the wicked" came out of that. That's the proper context, not the nonsense taught by religions. His bloodline would keep killing people until they redeemed themselves of their sins by simply stopping to do it, otherwise, they'll continue living in hell right here and now on earth. And that's the real meaning of being in hell fire FOREVER, and not the religious nonsense.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by musicwriter(m): 12:20pm On Dec 05, 2021
SeriouslySense:
thank you, it really explains some things, like passing the memory of what some did to the cells, or such traits being encoded into the genes,

and it also has positive implications, for instance, what we improve upon, or the positive experiences can also be passed unto the cells and encoded.

That being said, the individual is still a sum of both the positive traits and negative traits and it's up to the individual to manifest any, given the environment, experiences, and choices.

And we are also not restricted to past traits that were passed down, since, when we are born, we are also clean beings, who will grow to become who we are based on learning, understanding, self-awareness, and experiences.

Yes, you're right, and I said we're on this earth to cleanse ourselves of old baggages. You cleanse yourself by learning what's right or wrong. In fact, our jobs on this earth is to walk the fine line between good or bad, wrong or right and make sure we're always on the side that's HONESTLY right, whether someone is watching or not.

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by okoIYAyin(m): 12:31pm On Dec 05, 2021
emae009:


knives, machetes, hands, bottles, bows and arrows, ropes, anything is a deadly weapon in the hands of a killer

But gun still remains deadlier
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:09pm On Dec 05, 2021
ArchiLtd:
I learnt his parents bought the gun for him as a Christmas present, just 4 days before the shooting.
Until America gain some sense and tighten down on their gun laws, this will keep happening. Since it's ok for anybody to walk into a gun shop and purchase a firearm as if he's purchasing shawarma, someone you don't know if he's a psycho or clinically depressed with suicidal tendencies, you just freely give him a firearm and he can do whatever he wants with it, then when it happens they start sending thoughts and prayers with candlelight vigils and using "we're strong" slogans. No, you'se stupid.

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Laurene: 1:11pm On Dec 05, 2021
ChiefSosa:

Lol, you're right about that. Black women want to be bad bitches, while the men want to be gang members, drug dealers, etc There's lots of fuckery and ignorant things going on in the black community, that's why I sometimes see the hypocrisy in the BLM movement.
Most black folks get into these crazy lifestyle due to their background and the environment they were raised in; not because they just want to be involved in the crazy lifestyle. But, you have some white folks that's been in the suburbs all their life, but they'll still want to act like black folks from the ghetto, act tough and do ignorant things.
this is what happens when they idolize Jay z, Tupac, Big etc instead of MLK, Malcolm X, Richard Pryor or even con man Obama; those that are educated and led the freedom movement that they are enjoying.

Every black person is a POTENTIAL crack head, criminal, gangster and a dunce!
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:11pm On Dec 05, 2021
musicwriter:


Of course, all the school shootings you hear in Western countries didn't come out of the blues. It has a cause but which isn't palatable, and therefore, isn't being discussed.

If you check the shooter's bloodline, you'll discover his greatgrand parents shot innocent people for fun. Now, what the cells in our bodies do is archive such traits in the gene and pass it on to the next generation. You too inherited some traits from your parents. Even me. In fact, everyone. That's what hereditary in science of genetics is about. But that part is left out in white scholarship when discussing this school shooting because they know what they'll say if it has to be taught in school that way.

Fortunately, metaphysics explains that we're on this earth to cleanse ourselves of any old burdens and old baggages left in previous lives. Again, the whole saying of "reap what you sow" or "there's no rest for the wicked" came out of that. That's the proper context, not the nonsense taught by religions. His bloodline would keep killing people until they redeemed themselves of their sins by simply stopping to do it, otherwise, they'll continue living in hell right here and now on earth. And that's the real meaning of being in hell fire FOREVER, and not the religious nonsense.
How do siblings have different characters despite having the same ancestry and possibly genetic make up as you put it
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:13pm On Dec 05, 2021
habsydiamond:
That's what u get when u legalize weapon wetin looking at repercussions. I thank God say no Nigeria.. Many people for don die. From conductors, drivers, kidnappers, police, soldiers, mopol, wives, husband's, girlfriends, friends, bosses, workers, fathers, mothers thieves, and so on.
even NEPA people
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Youngmolis: 1:31pm On Dec 05, 2021
White boys are playing their cards on a cum cum
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:39pm On Dec 05, 2021
jaeon:
Too many video games, he now thinks real life is just like a video game. My heart bleeds for the grieving parents. His actions most surely be dealt with, no juvenile kankan!
that grand theft auto has a lot of immoral message for kids. Its so stupeed that I hate seeing kids play it
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by musicwriter(m): 1:40pm On Dec 05, 2021
Kokaine:

How do siblings have different characters despite having the same ancestry and possibly genetic make up as you put it

That would be for geneticists to explain. But from the view point of metaphysics, it could be that within a family, certain creative force that contains our traits (at the point of conception) gets inherited by whatever individual nature chooses for whatever reason to carry that trait. Incarnation? Well, I don't know. But whether it's incarnation or not, the point is that nature is doing it.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:42pm On Dec 05, 2021
BuddhaPalm:


Newsflash, it is illegal for Boko Haram, ISWAP, kidnappers, armed robbers, cultists, militants and Fulani herdsmen to own firearms.

How much has the law stopped them from procuring guns?

Gun laws only disarm law-abiding citizens, and make them unable to defend themselves.

If an entire village is armed, do you think herdsmen will think twice before invading them?

If everyone on your street is armed, do you think armed robbers will think twice before attacking?

exactly. The only reasons they don't attack army barracks easily is because they know they will meet resistance there.

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:44pm On Dec 05, 2021
musicwriter:


That would be for geneticists to explain. But from the view point of metaphysics, it could be that within a family, certain creative force that contains our traits (at the point of conception) gets inherited by whatever individual nature chooses for whatever reason to carry that trait. Incarnation? Well, I don't know. But whether it's incarnation or not, the point is that nature is doing it.
please stop sàying these things. We can't be sure of them because they're at best: calculated guesses.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by musicwriter(m): 1:50pm On Dec 05, 2021
Kokaine:
please stop sàying these things. We can't be sure of them because they're at best: calculated guesses.

They are not calculated guesses. Nature is doing it not me. Gene science is real proven science. The problem is understanding it and explaining it, not whether it's happening.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:52pm On Dec 05, 2021
Benrosaria:



Trust me the USA has gone deep in life. Putting up guns and weapons legally knows how much they are ready to stop a scourge of senseless killing. The life you live is an experiment.

Killing is justifiable.


Cause before guns and weapons, humans killed humans for food. So leave them with legalizing guns.


Nigeria Who still hasn’t legalized guns, yet turn the human body for money. How dark can we be.
I share this sentiment too. A person that wants to kill does not only need a gun to achieve his purpose. Knives kill too. But the rate of killings will increase with gun because its more handy and can dispense death over a distance without the fear of a fist fight by the handler.

Again... When you hold a gun, and you are easily excited to anger, you will most likely use it compared to when you cannot reach at it.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by habsydiamond(m): 1:58pm On Dec 05, 2021
Kokaine:
even NEPA people
if I get gun eh for this country Na them be my first target... Dem dey fuvck up no be small.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Kokaine(m): 1:59pm On Dec 05, 2021
musicwriter:


They are not calculated guesses. Nature is doing it not me. Gene science is real proven science. The problem is understanding it and explaining it, not whether it's happening.
crimes cannot be inherited. Genetics could account for physical traits that I could understand from basic biology, but not for the way the mind works. Are you saying we are all born without choices to be good or evil? And that our genetic makeup will override our willingness to either be law abiding or not? So then why do we try and punish people for their crimes when we could as well pardon them for labouring under the perils of a genetically machinated and imposed set of instructions they are not responsible for. After all, the law recognises mental illness as an excuse for certain crimes when it can be proven. Genetically imposed behaviour will be quite as plausible an excuse as mental illness.

Or is the aim of the law to eradicate and eliminate a particular set of genes from human race?

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Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Pymetrics: 2:01pm On Dec 05, 2021
emae009:


because we don't know of many white extremists terrorist groups waging wars all over the world.
There's no sign that the boy was groom from a young age by a group to do what he did but he did it all on his own.
Your fictitious character 90% of the time will belong to a particular group that will have brainwashed him to believe what he did is serving a righteous purpose for a said religion. So yeah the religion will be blame.
It's like having a Nigerian passport in India. Nobody wants to know if your family is a priesthood or Imam, once you're holding a Nigerian passport, you're already a drug smuggler suspect.
See defensive argument. When it involve their own, they talk from another angle. Well, I will advise your type to emancipate beyond tribal and religious attack when such criminality happens.
Re: US Teenager Who Shot 4 Students Dead Set To Be Charged As An Adult by Mbbscentric(m): 2:05pm On Dec 05, 2021
backbencher:


Yeah, that is If the parole board would grant it

I watched a recording of her last parole hearing some years ago. She looked contrite enough to me, but it wasn't good enough for the board.

Also a lot depends on if the family of her victims make a strong case for her not to get parole.

Finally if she has a serious illness, or is disabled, maybe she may get parole

Parole is not freedom like we know it though. You report to a parole officer regularly. And if he or she thinks you are not living up to the conditions of your parole, that's back to jail for the rest of yoir sentence


Thanks a lot for the enlightenment

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