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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 3:12am On Dec 06, 2021
Dijita:

@Sonnie10, it is not every property that have lawn and home association expenses. You will not pay 22% income tax on $12000 income unless you have other income. If you have other income your rental income tax will be marginal rate. Also you don't need property manager unless you have a lot of rental properties that you can't manage yourself.
You also appears to be double counting.
Income tax is not paid on gross income. The income tax in your scenario is paid after deduction of property tax and other expenses.
if you are paying home owner's association fees, why do you need a property manager and pay for the lawn maintenance?
If you have 60K to invest in rental income property. You probably will use it to buy about 4 apartments in combination with mortgage. You don't need property manager to manage up to 10 apartments. By the time you pay property tax, the return on your investment is not on the monthly rent when compare to other investment opportunities. But the appreciation on the property over time. I have some properties with annual rental profit of $300 to $600. However, 7 years return on investment is going to about 65% due to appreciation.
Some of you may say Nigeria return in Nigeria is higher but the peace of mind and security is Higher. The 65% is actually return on the total cost of purchase. The return on your own investment can be up to 300% or more. A friend bought property investment for $500k in 2014 and sold it for about $950000 in 2021. His actual down payment was 6.5%(32.500)
Thank you for breaking it down as it is. When I saw his analysis I laugh in Spanish. Something like, Addendum, lawn, property manager, Home Owners Associations, 22% income tax. first of all, not every State pay State income tax, moreover property tax and some mortgage interest are deductible at the year end income return. Secondly, many county used those property tax to finance their county district school teachers. Their are many thighs attach to property tax is different State of the Union.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 4:33am On Dec 06, 2021
Dijita:

@Sonnie10, it is not every property that have lawn and home association expenses. You will not pay 22% income tax on $12000 income unless you have other income. If you have other income your rental income tax will be marginal rate. Also you don't need property manager unless you have a lot of rental properties that you can't manage yourself.
You also appears to be double counting.
Income tax is not paid on gross income. The income tax in your scenario is paid after deduction of property tax and other expenses.
if you are paying home owner's association fees, why do you need a property manager and pay for the lawn maintenance?
If you have 60K to invest in rental income property. You probably will use it to buy about 4 apartments in combination with mortgage. You don't need property manager to manage up to 10 apartments. By the time you pay property tax, the return on your investment is not on the monthly rent when compare to other investment opportunities. But the appreciation on the property over time. I have some properties with annual rental profit of $300 to $600. However, 7 years return on investment is going to about 65% due to appreciation.
Some of you may say Nigeria return in Nigeria is higher but the peace of mind and security is Higher. The 65% is actually return on the total cost of purchase. The return on your own investment can be up to 300% or more. A friend bought property investment for $500k in 2014 and sold it for about $950000 in 2021. His actual down payment was 6.5%(32.500)

I don't think you have lived in one of those HOA fee collecting districts. HOA fee has nothing to do with your individual house, its all about people coming together for their own interest and that of the neighborhood while it is financed by all the home owners. They don't do nothing for your private home.
Please remove mortgage from the equation. The reason is that with mortgage, you might actually end up being in the negative at the end of the year. Let just assume everything to be based on owner financed.
We all understand the last 2-3years increase in property value and wouldn't use that as yardstick.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 7:06am On Dec 06, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 9:32am On Dec 06, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:36am On Dec 06, 2021
sonnie10:


You have a total of 195 square meters
He is charging 145k for labor
Therefore, one square meter is #733 in labor cost.
Most people charge #400 -500

Lots charge more than that too
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:49am On Dec 06, 2021
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 11:02am On Dec 06, 2021
New arrival Spanish products 60by120
Is still your blessed Sam building materials

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 11:25am On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

Great quote
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:35am On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”
hmmm
Well put
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 11:41am On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

#Fact
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:50am On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

And when customers complain?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 12:05pm On Dec 06, 2021
somehow:


And when customers complain?
Then you need this quote
“Face the simple fact before it comes involved. Solve the small problem before it becomes big.” –

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 12:07pm On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:

Then you need this quote
“Face the simple fact before it comes involved. Solve the small problem before it becomes big.” –

Braco.

Maybe the person is in the wrong trade
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 12:08pm On Dec 06, 2021
topsy23:


Great quote
Yea this also come to mind

I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Imas007(m): 12:10pm On Dec 06, 2021
GoodFaith:


Please I don't have time playing the guessing game
Look at the value of Naira for really
Unstable Nigeria
Over Priced land and properties like properties in Ontario Canada
I have done my part in Nigeria
Like I said I am not taking big risk
I take low risk
Nigeria Hard oh
Your Analysis of own investment house was very interesting
You failed to make the same Analysis about Nigeria
You wrote all the negative of owing property here
Buy a Land in Nigeria before you came back somebody might build house there my brother

Absolutely true! or you belong to the wrong side of the ruling power.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 1:04pm On Dec 06, 2021
topsy23:


Great quote

All service providers 'humming and ah'ing' about how great this quote is, it's nearly end of the year. It will be mightily hypocritical if you don't look back over the year and mark yourself honestly ...

... have I left any dissatisfied clients out there?
... who have I ridden roughshod over this year?


Then maybe you can try to make good if not too late.

IMO, it's not about carefully curating an online personae as, luckily for you, not every blowback is brought here.

Real world things.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shortgun(m): 1:52pm On Dec 06, 2021
uote author=n3xt post=108245387]

Abule Egba, Lagos

Thanks. [/quote]
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in Lagos at the moment I can recommend.
Good luck.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:53pm On Dec 06, 2021
shortgun:

uote author=n3xt post=108245387]

Abule Egba, Lagos

Thanks.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in Lagos at the moment I can recommend.
Good luck.

Ok. Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 2:09pm On Dec 06, 2021
Is it possible to buy a property in USA and be given PR or citizenship?(
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:09pm On Dec 06, 2021
sonnie10:


A piece of undeveloped land anywhere in Lagos held over 3years would have given you more than 200% return.

I have a condo, I bought it when the housing market was real Bad
Less than $30k the tenant Justin just moved out and was offering $160K
One of the big reason I invested in property was for cash flow
But I am not taking my eyes off property appreciation
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:12pm On Dec 06, 2021
Born2conquer:
Is it possible to buy a property in USA and be given PR or citizenship?(

Yes you can
You MUST have somebody you trust to manage it
If you have trusted people in The US do it
now you will have money in dollars
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 2:14pm On Dec 06, 2021
GoodFaith:


Yes you can
You MUST have somebody you trust to manage it
If you have trusted people in The US do it
now you will have money in dollars
But the country will grant me PR or citizenship ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 2:16pm On Dec 06, 2021
Born2conquer:

But the country will grant me PR or citizenship ?

US will NOT grant you citizenship
You can check with a lawyer
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 2:23pm On Dec 06, 2021
Born2conquer:

But the country will grant me PR or citizenship ?

For citizenship by investment, check out these countries.

https://immigrantinvest.com/en/blog/top-countries-get-passport-for-investment/
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 2:42pm On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

Correct sir
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 4:39pm On Dec 06, 2021
rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

In my profession, one strike and you are out. Some of you are so lucky.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 4:41pm On Dec 06, 2021
Blessedsunny2:
New arrival Spanish products 60by120
Is still your blessed Sam building materials

Lovely…. How much ??
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BlushPink: 5:26pm On Dec 06, 2021
Greetings to all the engineers and contributors in the house. I've learnt alot in the last couple of days reading different threads in property section cause as I'll be staying the foundation of my 1 bedroom flat bungalow this week.

I need clarification and info on this.
1. What types/size of granite do I use for foundation concrete
2. The supervisor said 70-80mm thickness is enough for the foundation concrete since I'm not decking or build a storey building as against at least 100mm.
3. For the mix, he said: 1:4:6. (Is this mix good enough?)
4. What's the avarage charge for block setting. And which is better between paying perday or based on the number of blocks used.

Please I'll need your input on this.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 5:28pm On Dec 06, 2021
akinola98:


Lovely…. How much ??
10,000 per square meters

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