Amumaigwe:


Also go and read the content of the Aburi accord signed by Gowon on behalf of the Federal Government but later repudiated on the advise of Awolowo. Maybe after, your ignorance bleatings will abate.

A wise man learns from his mistakes, a foolish man makes the same mistakes over and over and over and vlames every one else. I am not the one shouting Biafra or the one who will never see presidency of Nigeria in 2050 talk less 2023. In any event Aburi was after the fact....Ironsi had already handed absolute power to the federal govt and removed right to referendum, whatever Ojukwu was negotiating was from a position of weakness...the North had already seized power and inherited Ironsi's laws!!!!

By the time Aburi came about the rest of Nigeria was already slaves to the North thanks to ironsi. You negotiate with equals not with slaves.

if Ironsi hadn't done what he did , there would have been no need for Aburi because the law left behind by the British gave every region the right to secede...all he needed to do was to as the easterners ina referendum if they wanted to leave Nigeria and there would have been nothing the rest of Nigeria could have done about it.

Whiteways:
As a Yoruba man who I be, this is nothing but the truth. Reality I have long foreseen. An honest and intelligent igbo man will fix Nigeria's chaos in no time.

why are people always ashamed of their lineage because of worthless social medial likes? you are Igbo and you are worse than an infidel for denying your roots. An igbo man that is yet to fix his pathetic region will fix Nigeria ? They have the most incompetent group of leaders in the country.

Presidency is not bonanza, they will work for it, era of cheap blackmail is over.

The elders of Igbos claiming kneeling down to get things of their choice is not in their culture, if standing to get it things of their choice is part of their culture. why they can't focus on the one that applicable to their culture to get what they wanted instead of replying groups from Northern Nigeria.

Diplomacy is the key to achievement of all things in life, even American doesn't kneel down for any body before getting what they want in this planet, the instrument they usually applied is diplomacy that executed by good diplomats of United States.

I'm very surprise that even elders in the East can follow this path.

Amumaigwe:


The Igbo man genuflects only to his Chi. We are a very superior race. With or without Igbo presidency, we are living well.

superior? and yet to produce a president?, maybe you mistake superiority for your swelling numbers in Asian jails.......Nothing more dangerous than a superiority complex with no depth.

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Authority1o1:
Okay...


The North is strongly opposed to Igbo presidency, and it's a wonder. Empirically, it's ideal for power to flow to the South East zone, to allow for an administration by new heads.

Igbos will continue to detest Nigeria, and the logic is simple.

Parasites will never want to leave where they are sucking dry.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ndi senior wailers developers. What they have said it’s true now they should go and put it in a comedy skit for YouTube. Mad people.

Emergingnation:
Lol

To hell with your useless presidency... Who does it help ? You that has been at the helms of affairs of this contraption for decades, is your better than that Igbo's...

Buhari, a sitting president from north west, how's the life of his people faring..
Order than being ravaged by insecurity and extremed poverty, what is his achievement for his people...

Igbo don't want to be part this God forsaken country anymore.... Our hope is embedded on the actualization of sovereign state of Biafra which imminent

but you are the ones always talking about presidency.

You people are good at insults and noise but let me ask you something.......you either want presidency or you want Biafra abi? What are your chances of either in your life time? From where I am standing it is next to zero on both fronts. it that doesnt give you cause to think nothing will. Then again thinking has never been a hallmark of your people because thinking people dont act the way you people have been acting since 1966. the one thing the history of Nigeria has shown is that whatever political choice the ibos man has taken since 1960 has proved to be the wrong choice as least in the long term not only for them but for the rest of the country....FACT!!!! Therefore experience would suggest that if you want progress take the opposite stance to whetever the ibos are in favour of.

1. 1960, the ibos chose to side with balewa who came third in a n election
2. they staged a coup which changed the trajectory of Nigeria
3. they removed referendum
4. they embarked on a civil war
5. they back shagari whose regime was so inept it gave Buhari a reason to stage a coup.
6. they sided with Abacha
7. they backed the PDP which presided over perhaps the most brazen looting in Nigeria's history (im not saying APC are not looting but it is nowhere as brazen as the PDP era)

perambulator:


Go and read the unification decree of 1966

Aguyi ironsi (and Ojukwu) is the reason why Nigeria is where it is today. Go and read your history. he is the one who unwittingly handed absolute power to the North thinking he would be in power forever. The North simply kept the laws Ironsi promulgated and assumed the absolute power for themselves, the reason why the rest of Nigeria is enlsaved to the North today is because of ironsi. He created the unification decree 34 and removed referendum from our constitution. That is the bane of Nigeria's problem. Ironsi is the reason why you cannot have Biafra, he is the reason the North controls the Oil from the south, he is the reason VAT goes to the North, he is the reason illegal Zamfara gold stays in the north, he is the reason the groundnut pyramids stopped, the and all the development that started at the beginning of independence halted., he is the reason governors go cap in hand to Abuja for allocation.... he is the reason development in Nigeria stopped...full stop.


Ironsi gave himself absolute power, the North staged a coup and kept the law, up until then the system the British left behind made sure the North did not control Nigeria despite their so called larger population at least not economically!!!!

Ironsi Locked us all in a prison, Ojukwu threw away the key. As a result we are ALL trapped in a system that doesnt work and we cant leave.

...and he was only in power for 6 months....Bastard!!!!

In all this your long epistle, all you have said is that Ironsi centralized power but northerners took the power and destroyed the country with bad governance. So shouldn't your grouse be with the northerners who ruined the country? Your argument is upside down, just like saying Abdulsalam took the country back to democracy in 1999 and bad civilian leaders took advantage of that to contest and win only to put the country in a mess therefore Abdulsalam must be blamed. That in essence is your argument. FYI, it doesn't make any sense and if anyone is a bastard here, it's whoever taught you in school because he clearly did a very bad job.

justtoodark:


is this a joke....??

Definitely not a joke, get on your knees fast! Your time is running out.

Penguin2:
There you have it zombies...

Igbos don’t bend the knee for any idiot.

Deny us 2023 presidency and see even Umahi, OUK, Okorocha, etc, all become IPOB.

Nigeria has the opportunity to correct decades of ill in 2023 or to set in motion, decades of chaos.

The choice is for una.

Oga calm down. No one is scared of your empty threats. 2023 will come and go with no ibo presidency. If you like you can resume your terrorism we are ready for you

tsinzu:

Definitely not a joke, get on your knees fast! Your time is running out.

una dey craze completly....

tsinzu:

In all this your long epistle, all you have said is that Ironsi centralized power but northerners took the power and destroyed the country with bad governance. So shouldn't your grouse be with the northerners who ruined the country? Your argument is upside down, just like saying Abdulsalam took the country back to democracy in 1999 and bad civilian leaders took advantage of that to contest and win only to put the country in a mess therefore Abdulsalam must be blamed. That in essence is your argument. FYI, it doesn't make any sense and if anyone is a bastard here, it's whoever taught you in school because he clearly did a very bad job.

you are just being diversionary because you do not wish to acknowledge that it was the ibos that who put us where we are.
They wouldnt have done a bad job if he hadnt done what he did. The fact is the North was actually developing before ironsi's actions, granting them access to oil and the civil war changed their focus from development to control. Ironsi's actions gave them power they shouldnt have.

perambulator:


you are just being diversionary because you do not wish to acknowledge that it was the ibos that who put us where we are.
They wouldnt have done a bad job if he hadnt done what he did. The fact is the North was actually developing before ironsi's actions, granting them access to oil and the civil war changed their focus from development to control. Ironsi's actions gave them power they shouldnt have.

By your own admission, it was the north that ruined the country. That's exactly what you said, so you're the one being diversionary here. Ironsi's only offence here according to you is allowing the north to kill him and take control of power. How can you leave the people who you said messed the country up and be blaming someone they killed and forcefully took power from? By this your argument then Abdulsalam should be blamed for every bad government we've had at all levels since 1999 right? If he didn't take us back to democracy then all these corrupt politicians wouldn't have been able to contest and win isn't it?

Vistra40:


Dude, calm down. First off, am not a yoruba but a south easterner like you. Secondly, am not the type that comes to Nairaland to fight tribal battles. Thirdly, follow my history in this forum and you would see that my views are always objective. I even attack those who denigrate igbos in the name of bigotry and criticize igbos alike. My comments are based on what I think is right than to be emotional about it.

Is it time for an igbo presidency? Yes! Are they playing the right politics to earn it? No! People like OUK, Rochas and until recently Anyim are making efforts but the attitude of our people isn’t helping.

And oh for the fulanis that you said they kill, relax. Each time they attack IPOB(even though I don’t agree with their strategy entirely) I quickly fire back by reminding them about banditry up north. So relax bro and don’t be too emotional cos am not the type that would do something just to appeal to emotions

Shut your damn mouth bro, you are a fake ass Igbo. You no reach

tsinzu:

By your own admission, it was the north that ruined the country. That's exactly what your said, so you're the one being diversionary here. Ironsi's only offence here according to you is allowing the north to kill him and take control of power. How can you leave the people who you said messed the country up and be blaming someone they killed and forcefully took power from?

The North did not ruin the country the system ruined the country. who put in that system and why? Weve had leaders from the North, middle belt, SW and SS and the results since 1966 are always the same ....why? ...because you are only as good as the system you operate and Isonsi (and ojukwu after him) are responsible for the system we operate. Nigeria in 55 years has not made the kind of progress it made between 1960 and 1966 (which BTW was under a Northern prime minister.

waste of time arguing with an ibo man. Is there anything you did wrong? I have never seen an ibo man accept he did wrong in my life thats why your story keeps repeating itself.

if you dont accept where you went wrong you will keep getting the same results. No man changes his future without correcting mistakes of the past. you cannot solve a problem with first correctly recognising and acknowledging the problem

61 years and with the exception of 6 months via a coup, ibo, a major tribe has never held the no1 position in the country....why? even minorities have held the position....you are doing something wrong and when people tell you, humble yourself instead of insulting them and blaming others because as the many threads on nairaland and the broader news headlines suggest, it is important to you despite what you say. One thing for sure you are not getting Biafra, we are all stuck in Nigeria........Ironsi has closed the door on that!!!!

Ohanaeze are high on Effect of Mkpuru miri.

Nonexisting:
I have a feeling that a good Igbo president will fix this country's problems but nepotism won't allow that to happen so it's to your tent oh Israel.

jagorinho:

superior? and yet to produce a president?, maybe you mistake superiority for your swelling numbers in Asian jails.......Nothing more dangerous than a superiority complex with no depth.

and u cannot let them go what do I call u goat

SECOND CLASS CITIZENS OF NIGERIA.

When Nigerian citizens are talking, second hand citizens will try to open their smelly mouth.
EWU BIAFRA.

perambulator:


The North did not ruin the country the system ruined the country. who put in that system and why?
waste of time arguing with an ibo man. Is there anything you did wrong? I have never seen an ibo man accept he did wrong in my life thats why your story keeps repeating itself.

Lol, look at this guy! So I should just accept I am wrong when you haven't even started making any sense on the allegations you are levelling? The system ruined which country? Was it the system that Ironsi introduced in 1966 that caused the the operation wetie that happened in the southwest as a result of all manners of electoral malpractice that was happening before 1966? I bet you didn't remember that Awolowo had already been clamped into detention by the balewa government and They rigged Akintola into power in the western region and went ahead to declare a state of emergency on the region after all law and order broke down. It was Ironsi that gave the north that power also right? Oga you're not even beginning to make any sense yet

Esseite:
Sometimes one wonders why there is so much fear with the SE person being president...

Penguin2:
There you have it zombies...

Igbos don’t bend the knee for any idiot.

Deny us 2023 presidency and see even Umahi, OUK, Okorocha, etc, all become IPOB.

Nigeria has the opportunity to correct decades of ill in 2023 or to set in motion, decades of chaos.

The choice is for una.

conductor20000:
This is exactly how it should be.

Nigeria as a whole should be begging Igbos to provide an intellectual (not Rochas and OUK) who will try and at least undo the economic havoc Saint Buhari hoisted on them in the past 7 years but no, they are too proud.

It will further give Nigerians a tangible excuse to give when Igbos demand Biafra or complain of the running marginalization.

I said, same way Nigeria always beg Igbos for unity is how they should be begging for Igbo presidency only more aggressively. If they were not selfish and wicked people whose only interest is to see Igbos suffer with them in the gaping monster shithole created by Lugard followed by Fulani and Yoruba presidents.

Thank God they're not listening sef. It would be a disadvantage to Igbos in our agitation for our separate peaceful, fair and organic country which is already written. He who the gods want to kill, they will make mad and block his ears first.

SAY NO TO IGBO PRESIDENCY. We DON'T WANT. WE WANT BIAFRA. They should go and beg Thiefnubui to become president of Nigeria or even make Booboo life president.

This people are the most primitive I have ever seen. How can u ask for something that is supposed to be gotten through election at a platter of gold, Why are they desperate?
See your sins:
Do you know that when Tafawa Balewa was Prime Minister of Nigeria;
Chief of Army Staff was from SE
Chief of Naval Staff was from SE
IG of Police was from SE
Chief of Defence Staff was from SE
Internal Affairs Minister SE
External Affairs Minister SE
Education Minister South SE
Many other key ministries to SE
Parliament President SE
Unilag VC from SE
The University of Ibadan VC from SE
North resisted same at ABU!
Still, there was dissatisfaction by SE, the officers from the region killed this same Balewa!!!!
Out of all the most senior officers in Nigeria, SE has 37, none was killed. 8 from the north, all of them were killed. 10 from the west, 2 were killed.
Then Ironsi imposed a unitary system of government on the country so that everything can belong to a region who snatched it!
We must know our history so that when we want to make corrections, we will not end up concealing the truth. This has nothing to do with tribalism but everything to do with the truth.....at times when lies litter the streets. There is a tendency to think those are truths and facts.
*What follows are facts that can be cross-checked for authenticity!"*

Prof. Ben Nwabueze was the man who drafted the constitution that took away powers from regions and handed it to the central government because his brother Aguiyi Ironsi was the head of state then but some ignorant or selfish people limit their accusations to only Abdussalam Abubakar constitution that give birth to current democratic govt. Today, they're shouting restructuring that they helped to destroy. We won’t forget.”*.

The Igbo man is known to enjoy blaming the Hausa fulanis, Yorubas and indeed every other Nigerian tribe and Lord Luggard/Britain for their seeming claim of being in third class citizen status in Nigeria or refuse to let thm go. In their perpetual attempts to play the victim card, they recount the political events of Nigeria from 1914 to the present in a half-baked and highly selective manner which cleverly avoids the mention of the roles played by their elite who by all natural laws of judgement were actually responsible for the woes that befell not only the Igbo race but the entire Nigeria nation.
However, the national archives have the complete and unedited history of Nigeria regarding the political events beginning way back from even before 1914.
Shortly after the 1914 Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates, it started getting clear that the country was bound to fail as the amalgamation in question was done with colonial fiat without the consent and consensus of the different tribes which were over 300. This prompted the political leaders to start asking for de-amalgamation so as to forestall the future danger which the forced amalgamation portended.
To that end, Ahmadu Bello, speaking on behalf of the Northern protectorate in 1944 described the amalgamation as "The mistake of 1914 which if allowed to remain will ultimately lead to unstoppable bloodshed and a failed country".
Awolowo, speaking on behalf of the Yorubas and Western minorities, described Nigeria as a mere geographical expression not qualified to be called a country let alone a nation. Awolowo added that if the amalgamation could not be reversed, then Nigeria should be structured as a strictly federal state so as to enable each tribe enjoy autonomy this freedom from being dominated by any one single tribe.
But Nnamdi Azikiwe, speaking for the Igbos, denounced Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello, terming them ethnic champions. He accused them of nursing a sectional agenda against the unity of Nigeria, and he declared further that the Unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable.
After moving the motion for independece in 1953, Anthony Enahoro proposed that a secession clause should be incorporated into the future constitution of Nigeria so as to give legal backing for any tribe to peacefully exit the forced union if it feels marginalized in future. According to Enahoro, such provision in our constitution would instill in all Nigeria's future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance. But Azikiwe, speaking on behalf of Igbos, rose against him in the parliament and labelled him an agent of disunity, and enemy of Nigeria. At a later date, Awolowo too made a case for secession clause, but Azikiwe again resisted him and instigated the colonial authorities to threaten him and Enahoro with charges of treasonable felony if they didn't stop proposing secession clause for the future constitution. While Azikiwe did all these, Igbos cheered and urged him on because they felt the future Nigeria was theirs to dominate and lord it over every other tribe
Before independece, Tafawa Balewa too had in a public speech described Nigeria as a British experiment and Nigeria's unity as a British intention which Nigerians themselves don't believe in. But Azikiwe kicked and demonized him too. Had Azikiwe co-operated with Enahoro, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa about the secession clause, Nigeria perhaps would not have been this misgoverned.
It should be noted that there were many Igbo members of the parliament in which Azikiwe fought against Awolowo's secession clause proposal in the link above, but not a single one of them rose against Azikiwe or condemned him.
Igbos initially never wanted to hear anything like secession in Nigeria because they so much believed, though falsely, that they were the most educated tribe.
As an evidence of Igbo domination agenda hence their initial resistance to the idea of secession; here is a quote:
"From all indications, the god of us Igbos have destined us to rule the whole of Africa"
Northerners have clearly known this & will never succumb to cheap political trick, how can u call us backward and at the same time asking us to go back to 1963 constitution talkless of even amending the current constitution?

tsinzu:

Lol, look at this guy! So I should just accept I am wrong when you haven't even started making any sense on the allegations you are levelling? The system ruined which country? Was it the system that Ironsi introduced in 1966 that caused the the operation wetie that happened in the southwest as a result of all manners of electoral malpractice that was happening before 1966? I bet you didn't remember that Awolowo had already been clamped into detention by the balewa government and They rigged Akintola into power in the western region and went ahead to declare a state of emergency on the region after all law and order broke down. It was Ironsi that gave the north that power also right? Oga you're not even beginning to make any sense yet

I have said it many times, the unique characteristic of the ibo man (the drive for success and to be no1) that makes him a success in business is the same reason why you dont want to be entangled with the ibo man when it comes to human relations. they never acknowledge when they do wrong, they are short sighted, they dont play the long game, they must have their way or they burn down the house, they never consider others and they are never wrong....it is always someone else's fault!!!!


Like I said its a waste of time arguing certain things with the Ibo. I simply pointed out to an Ibo man who apparently did not know what Ironsi did wrong. I have said my own and I'm done here!!!

Let igbos rescue Nigeria. We move

Newton85:
But you'll still not become the President of this country though. You will cry forever meth boy.

Which country? This almajiri is sick ooo...go and fish out your sister that was roasted by your brothers before vultures finish her up.

If the Northern people don't rein in these people always making empty noise on their behalf without bringing back any remedies to their numerous problems, they will definitely have themselves to blame.

Xendre:
and u cannot let them go what do I call u goat

when you are ready to leave you know the way!!! who is holding you? your politicians are in Abuja eating the national cake, your masses litters every corner of the country in the name of survival.....Mr man!!! when you are ready to leave you know exactly what to do.

tsinzu:

What did Aguiyi Ironsi do again? Did he do anything wrong in the mere six months he was president?

In the 6 cursed months of the bastard's reign he abolished the working regional Govt that ensured be a measure of beopportunity for each region to be grow at it's pace be and back introduced unitary Govt out of greed and evil desire to dominate everyother tribes m
That is very what the whole country is suffering today

SE presidency my foot

Finally, Ohaneze is growing balls...no one group owns this country. I just wonder why people clinch to power that has never benefitted their poor masses. In sane societies, they give room for qualified candidates but here it's affinity and tribalism
*SNIGGER*

OmoEpe:


In the 6 cursed months of the bastard's reign he abolished the working regional Govt that ensured be a measure of beopportunity for each region to be grow at it's pace be and back introduced unitary Govt out of greed and evil desire to dominate everyother tribes m
That is very what the whole country is suffering today

SE presidency my foot

Which working regional government? The one where operation wetie and all manner of corruption were the order of the day? The one in which the south west literally degenerated into the wild wild west and a state of emergency was imposed on the region? Please talk another story. As for your "south east presidency your foot" comment, who exactly are you? Both you and your foot are irrelevant in the scheme of things.

perambulator:


I have said it many times, the unique characteristic of the ibo man (the drive for success and to be no1) that makes him a success in business is the same reason why you dont want to be entangled with the ibo man when it comes to human relations. they never acknowledge when they do wrong, they are short sighted, they dont play the long game, they must have their way or they burn down the house, they never consider others and they are never wrong....it is always someone else's fault!!!!


Like I said its a waste of time arguing certain things with the Ibo. I simply pointed out to an Ibo man who apparently did not know what Ironsi did wrong. I have said my own and I'm done here!!!

You're the ones that are short sighted. It's also a waste of time trying to reason with someone from whichever tribe you come from. How can you come up with arguments that make absolutely no sense and yet be insisting that I accept that you are right? All those hogwash you wrote up there about Igbos must be the traits of your own tribe and definitely not the blessed Igbo nation.