sonmvayina:

The Christian concept of a Trinity is not monotheism.

In the Christian New Testament, Jesus at one point claims to have different knowledge than other parts of the Christian Trinity. For example, in Matthew 24:36 Jesus says: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Mark 13:32 says the same thing: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Jesus does not have the same power as other parts of the Christian Trinity. For example, Luke 23:34 says: Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Why couldn’t Jesus himself pardon? If Jesus was the same as the Father, why does he call upon his Father to pardon? Because he was not God, or a part of God (which Christians call a “person” of God), and he therefore did not have the power to forgive, and he knew it. In Matthew 26:42, Jesus’ will is not the same as the will of the Father: He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. This is also found in Mark 14:36: And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. In the above statements, Jesus contrasts himself with the Father, with God, because Jesus knew that Jesus was not God. Indeed, Jesus often contrasts himself with the Father. He does so in John 14:28: Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Luke 18:19 provides a similar example: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None is good, save one that is, God. Furthermore, Jesus supposedly said the punishment for speaking against one part of the Trinity is not the same punishment as for speaking against another part of the Trinity. If this is true, then they cannot be the same or the punishments would be the same for speaking against either: Matthew 12:32 And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. If the different parts of the Christian Trinity are not one and the same, if Jesus did not know things that the Father knew, if Jesus did not have the same will as the Father, or the same strength as the Father, then they are separate and unequal to each other. The Christian concept of a Trinity is not monotheism.

sonmvayina:


Luke 23:34 says: Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Why couldn’t Jesus himself pardon? why does he call upon his Father to pardon?

sonmvayina:
he therefore did not have the power to forgive, and he knew it.

Janosky:


Thank you Sir.
The Bible concept of God is monotheism.
John 20:17, Romans 3:29-30. Acts3:13.
Brocab,a Trinity devotee, (in screenshot) understands this.

But Christendom's Trinity devotees concept of God is Polytheism.
All of them will come on board to deny it.

achorladey:



Are you talking about[b] 3 DOGHEADS and DOGS[/b] that don't exist in your BIBLE?

Are those scriptures talking about the DOGS and DOGHEADS?

Why are you citng Bible verses for to support or counter DOGHEADS?

achorladey:

Since Brocab is a TRINITY devotee according to you, the post you are referring to contains JESUS, is that JESUS one of the DOGHEADS among the 3 DOGHEADS Brocab bow to?

Janosky:


From the screenshot you mean JESUS is one of the DOGHEADS.
When will Achorladey's brain process the fact that his 3 doghead gods is NOT in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures?
Did Achorladey see his 3 godhead in John 20:17 & Acts 3:13?

Jesus is NOT a doghead nor godhead. Your gods have no plans in the Greek manuscript of holy scriptures

Janosky:


From the screenshot you mean JESUS is one of the DOGHEADS.
When will Achorladey's brain process the fact that his 3 doghead gods is NOT in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures?
Did Achorladey see his 3 godhead in John 20:17 & Acts 3:13?

Jesus is NOT a doghead nor godhead. Your gods have no plans in the Greek manuscript of holy scriptures

When will Achorladey's brain process the fact that his 3 doghead gods is NOT in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures?

Jesus is NOT a doghead nor godhead. Your gods have no plans in the Greek manuscript of holy scriptures

johnw47:


lost blasphemer fraud jw janosky

you have been blaspheming the christians and the bibles Jehovah Jesus and the Holy spirit
for a long time, and still do, and now you are trying to twist and lie your way out of it.

can't be done:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.



fool and deceive yourself and other false jw's all you wan't
u don't fool and deceive God, or most anyone else

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Janosky:


The Bible's crumbs he picked up from Luke 24:25-27,48-49

sonmvayina:
The Christian concept of a Trinity is not monotheism.

In the Christian New Testament, Jesus at one point claims to have different knowledge than other parts of the Christian Trinity. For example, in Matthew 24:36 Jesus says: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Mark 13:32 says the same thing: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Jesus does not have the same power as other parts of the Christian Trinity. For example, Luke 23:34 says: Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Why couldn’t Jesus himself pardon? If Jesus was the same as the Father, why does he call upon his Father to pardon? Because he was not God, or a part of God (which Christians call a “person” of God), and he therefore did not have the power to forgive, and he knew it. In Matthew 26:42, Jesus’ will is not the same as the will of the Father: He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. This is also found in Mark 14:36: And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. In the above statements, Jesus contrasts himself with the Father, with God, because Jesus knew that Jesus was not God. Indeed, Jesus often contrasts himself with the Father. He does so in John 14:28: Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Luke 18:19 provides a similar example: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None is good, save one that is, God. Furthermore, Jesus supposedly said the punishment for speaking against one part of the Trinity is not the same punishment as for speaking against another part of the Trinity. If this is true, then they cannot be the same or the punishments would be the same for speaking against either: Matthew 12:32 And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. If the different parts of the Christian Trinity are not one and the same, if Jesus did not know things that the Father knew, if Jesus did not have the same will as the Father, or the same strength as the Father, then they are separate and unequal to each other. The Christian concept of a Trinity is not monotheism.

Bishopkingsley:


I have told you as long as you don't understand how God created you

Then you can never understand how God is

You don't know what a soul is you don't know what body is you don't know what spirit is


This are the things which hinder you from understanding spiritual life

sonmvayina:


Lol...very laughable...

I am a soul made up of Body from dust of the earth and breath or spirit of God. ..

God is one (Deuteronomy 6:4).
Even your so called new testament agrees with me. That is if at all Jesus actually existed. But we all know he was created by the romans....

The truth will first piss you off before it sets you free..

Bishopkingsley:


No problem... You can believe what you want

achorladey:



Your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING won't go away just yet. I no tell you, your eyes go clear.

Since Brocab is a TRINITY devotee according to you, the post you are referring to contains JESUS, is that JESUS one of the DOGHEADS among the 3 DOGHEADS Brocab bow to?

You can keep the DENIAL and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING going

..... Janosky

When will Janosky NO GET SENSE PEDDLING BRAIN process that he is linking what 3 DOGHEADS and DOGS with the Father, son and Holy spirit?

Since you say it is not in the Greek manuscript what is the linkage of Jesus Christ and 3 DOGHEADS or DOGS. Why are you linking JESUS with non existent things? This is definitely the consequence of MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING BRAIN on nairaland.


.... Janosky

Continue the recantation. I will keep reminding you why you need to keep recanting

Mr DOGS and DOGHEADS peddler

johnw47:


lost blasphemer fraud jw janosky

you have been blaspheming the christians and the bibles Jehovah Jesus and the Holy spirit
for a long time, and still do, and now you are trying to twist and lie your way out of it.

can't be done:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.



fool and deceive yourself and other false jw's all you wan't
u don't fool and deceive God, or most anyone else

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

So typical of these Trinity GIBBERISH typing frauds.

I challenge you to present evidence of godhead in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures.

Your other option is stay off my mention and continue DECEIVING yourself

sonmvayina:


I don't believe anything..


I know it is the truth..

Janosky:


So typical of these Trinity GIBBERISH typing frauds.

I challenge you to present evidence of godhead in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures.

Your other option is stay off my mention and continue DECEIVING yourself

Janosky:


Godhead is NOT in the Greek manuscript of holy Scriptures.

Godhead is a man made fabrication alien to the Greek language Bible.
Achorladey Receive SENSE

Janosky:


So typical of these Trinity GIBBERISH typing frauds.

I challenge you to present evidence of godhead in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures.

Your other option is stay off my mention and continue DECEIVING yourself

Janosky:


So typical of these Trinity GIBBERISH typing frauds.

I challenge you to present evidence of godhead in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures.

Your other option is stay off my mention and continue DECEIVING yourself

Bishopkingsley:



It easy to believe a lie

sonmvayina:


Thank God you at least know that..

achorladey:


for a long time, and still do, and now you are trying to twist and lie your way out of it.... Johnw47

He has to deny and lie his way out of it. That is his mode of operation.

johnw47:

[s]
Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost blasphemer fraud jw janosky

look at you oh cowardly twister/liar, running away from your calling the christian's and the bibles Jehovah Jesus and the Holy Spirit: "the 3 dogheads" and "the 3 godheads" and "the old demon ghost" etc. etc.

i no been talking about the word "godhead" being in the bible
you replying to those voices in your head

talk about gibberish and being deceived, u r talking about yourself oh blaspheming lost one

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Joh 8:44  [color=#990000]Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/color[/s]]

Bishopkingsley:


Any time you read this place in your Bible you want to clean it from your mind that why you can't see it like Bible said forever seeing but never understanding



Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Which Greek word is "godhead" @ Matthew 28:19?

You no even get shame dey type GIBBERISH.

Janosky:

MuMu, nonsensical post with ZERO proof.

JohnW ALWAYS claimed that the 3 dogheads referenced his Gods-the Father, Jesus & holy ghost.

.
Show the proof where I said so or stay off my mention !

JohnW ALWAYS claimed that the 3 dogheads referenced his Gods-the Father, Jesus & holy ghost

Show the proof where I said so or stay off my mention

Janosky:

This topic is way above your comprehension.
You can NEVER provide any proof.
Just stay off my mention.

Janosky:

This topic is way above your comprehension.
You can NEVER provide any proof.
Just stay off my mention.

Janosky:

MuMu, nonsensical post with ZERO proof.

JohnW ALWAYS claimed that the 3 dogheads referenced his Gods-the Father, Jesus & holy ghost.

Janosky:
.
Show the proof where I said so or stay off my mention !

Janosky:


From the screenshot you "mean JESUS is one of the DOGHEADS?".
When will Achorladey's brain process the fact that his 3 doghead gods is NOT in the Greek manuscript of the holy Scriptures?
Did Achorladey see his 3 godhead in John 20:17 & Acts 3:13?


Direct your questions to JohnW, your fellow Trinitarian devotee whom you quote his comments.
John W made that claim which led to your question.
Jesus is NOT a doghead nor godhead. Your gods have no place in the Greek manuscript of holy scriptures

Janosky:

This topic is way above your comprehension.
You can NEVER provide any proof.
Just stay off my mention.

Janosky:

stay off my mention !

Janosky:


.... When will Achorladey's brain process the fact that his 3 doghead gods ....