donjazet:
Ibime and nihilist, who are your ideal DM's?

donjazet:
Ibime and nihilist, who are your ideal DM's?

izzou:


Person lose ball, still stand there...

Sometimes, when people defend this guy vehemently, I start to wonder if it's another Jorginho I watch.

Not to take anything away from his success, but that guy no be am.

nihilistjnr:


Ideal DMs in life? Or DMs I like right now?

izzou:


Person lose ball, still stand there...

Sometimes, when people defend this guy vehemently, I start to wonder if it's another Jorginho I watch.

Not to take anything away from his success, but that guy no be am.

donjazet:

Right now.

donjazet:


This is not a problem of being press-resistant, but one of miscontrol and pace. Errors like these are rare, as I said earlier graphics like these are selective. I could also post a gif of jorginho evadeing pressure and people would say, he doesn't do it consistently enough, but at the same time highlight this error for it to seem like it's a staple feature of his game.

Kimbeast:

Try to rewatch the goal again on YouTube for the full clip. You can see Jorginho already tried stretching to poke the ball away which put him of balance. Watch the clip here



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLywvi_SM10

Oga, what are you saying?

He already tried stretching to poke the ball away? How.

Did you know that if Jorginho trapped the ball, it wouldn't even get to Sancho. He would even have about a second to play it in.

He's very slow to read games.

Once he's under pressure, he's bound to make mistakes. And I'm sure many coaches are discovering that

Kimbeast:

Try to rewatch the goal again on YouTube for the full clip. You can see Jorginho already tried stretching to poke the ball away which put him of balance. Watch the clip here

Kimbeast:

Try to rewatch the goal again on YouTube for the full clip. You can see Jorginho already tried stretching to poke the ball away which put him of balance. Watch the clip here



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLywvi_SM10

izzou:


Oga, what are you saying?

He already tried stretching to poke the ball away? How.

Did you know that if Jorginho trapped the ball, it wouldn't even get to Sancho. He would even have about a second to play it in.

He's very slow to read games.

Once he's under pressure, he's bound to make mistakes. And I'm sure many coaches are discovering that

izzou:


I am sure that if it was Fabinho that misplaced that pass, he would have fouled Sancho immediately, and taken the card for it. Even Kante or Kova would do the same. But look at him standing there.

izzou:


Oga, what are you saying?

He already tried stretching to poke the ball away? How.

Did you know that if Jorginho trapped the ball, it wouldn't even get to Sancho. He would even have about a second to play it in.

He's very slow to read games.

Once he's under pressure, he's bound to make mistakes. And I'm sure many coaches are discovering that

nihilistjnr:


Guy God go bless your eyes with everlasting yeast.

Watch Chalobah in that sequence.


Chalobah was in front of Jorginho before the man lost the ball. Chalobah caught up to Jorginho and ran past him sef, whilst the man himself just stood there.

The revisionist agenda must not be allowed to fly here.Jorginho of all people - Press Resistant? Ahh...

izzou:


I am sure that if it was Fabinho that misplaced that pass, he would have fouled Sancho immediately, and taken the card for it. Even Kante or Kova would do the same. But look at him standing there.

A proper DM?

Jorginho is very slow in reading games.

He had enough time to head that ball back into the opponent's box. He could have cleared it. He could have played it back to Mendy sef...

But what exactly did he do?...

I don't like to even participate in Jorgi talks, because people that love him always love him. Same with those that hate him.

That guy no be am

donjazet:


Guy stop making blank statements like these. It's tiresome already.

Every single player makes mistakes. Is this not the Liverpool that concedes goals in baskets but make up for it in attack

Was kante not here when we struggled badly under conte, lampard, Sarri etc?
I am tired of these kind of talks, one error does not make a player. Jorginho brings far more to the team than he costs. Just like any top player.
Many man-u complain that in as much as Ronaldo scores goals, he doesn't contribute to the overall gameplay. Would you say Ronaldo is terrible and should not play again?

My brother, make I rest for this case.

But you see Jorginho, no be am at all

BlueMann:


Seconded.

Na just physicality Billy G no get like that.

raumdeuter:


What color of card do you think they will issue for that type of foul given that he is the last man. And do you think its better to get sent off at 50 something minute instead of conceeding a goal and have 11 men try to come back?

nihilistjnr:


Tuchel was so shocked by what happened there that he blamed the Stamford Bridge floodlights, because there's literally no rational excuse for what we saw

nihilistjnr:


Tuchel was so shocked by what happened there that he blamed the Stamford Bridge floodlights, because there's literally no rational excuse for what we saw

donjazet:
Ibime and nihilist, who are your ideal DM's?

raumdeuter:


What color of card do you think they will issue for that type of foul given that he is the last man. And do you think its better to get sent off at 50 something minute instead of conceeding a goal and have 11 men try to come back?

raumdeuter:


I think you guys are making too much of this particular Man Utd incident

It was a simple miscontrol which many players have done at some point in time, Many are fortunate that opponents are not hounding them fiercely and got away
If this situation long ball to Jorg happened 10 times He probably controls perfect 6 times, he miscontrol 4 times and of those 4 times, 2 no opponent will be near to punish

raumdeuter:


I think you guys are making too much of this particular Man Utd incident

It was a simple miscontrol which many players have done at some point in time, Many are fortunate that opponents are not hounding them fiercely and got away
If this situation long ball to Jorg happened 10 times He probably controls perfect 6 times, he miscontrol 4 times and of those 4 times, 2 no opponent will be near to punish

izzou:


Person lose ball, still stand there...

Sometimes, when people defend this guy vehemently, I start to wonder if it's another Jorginho I watch.

Not to take anything away from his success, but that guy no be am.

raumdeuter:


I think you guys are making too much of this particular Man Utd incident

It was a simple miscontrol which many players have done at some point in time, Many are fortunate that opponents are not hounding them fiercely and got away
If this situation long ball to Jorg happened 10 times He probably controls perfect 6 times, he miscontrol 4 times and of those 4 times, 2 no opponent will be near to punish

Ibime:


That's why I didn't hammer him. This is not a failure of press resistance but failure of control which can happen to anyone on a bad day. Jorginho failure of press resistance is more insidious and drawn out and can only be observed by watching 90 mins, how he hides behind players when the game is tough, ensuring he only drops 30 passes and his team don't control possession, how he passes back under the slightest pressure etc

raumdeuter:


What color of card do you think they will issue for that type of foul given that he is the last man. And do you think its better to get sent off at 50 something minute instead of conceeding a goal and have 11 men try to come back?

nihilistjnr:


He miscontrolled the ball under pressure and gave it away for a goal.

I brought it up to counter the narrative that Jorginho is press resistant. He is not.

Tuchel is literally complaining about how Jorginho is making mistake after mistake whenever teams play us high pressing

Im not kidding when I say I don't think Tuchel has publicly complained as much about any single Chelsea player as he has about Jorginho. I can point to at least 6 times in the media where Tuchel felt the need to say something about Jorginho nonsense play.

In the presser below, nobody even asked him about Akpuruka. The guy just remembered the nonsense the guy play give am in consecutive matches and started complaining unprompted, saying no be tactics dey cause this kain nonsense