Putindbutt:

Bonny is a mix tribe. The culture and titles are ijohs. Slave trade brought ibos from the interior to Bonny. Mbanaso was installed as a king by his ijoh master. Olukumi have been igbonized even though they aren't ibos. The large concentration of ibos in a given area gives them undue advantage over the less peopled minorities.
The fact remains that the abolishment of slave trade in 1801 gave ibos the leeway as freed slaves in Bonny, prior to 1801, ibos were the largest supplier of slaves. It was for purpose of slavery that brought ibos to Bonny.

JANK23H:

Tsk tsk tsk......Again reaffirming the true owners of Grand Bonny.

Why should i bother when a slave dealer gives a poor report about my people?Reason being,we could not be tamed.Unlike your kind that was shipped off like sheep.Given to bouts of depression and suicidal because they couldn't resist.

So you are happy with the praises of the Slave dealer/master?You should have hidden this.It's not something to be proud of.

Proudly a Jo-man!
We never cower

chiedozie198100:
Wow.
Reading this piece just makes me shake my head in shock n disbelief.

With bonny and opobo being Igbo, and virtually the entire upland having Igbo connect(although clowns like ikwerre and etche keep denying their identity), that means close to 80 percent of rivers landmass is IGBO.



No wonder the strong hatred for a man like nnamdi kanu.

My guy was giving the ijaws sleepless night in exposing their nyash.

Ekealterego:


Why are you crying? You were boastful about how good you were at keeping slaves , then when your lies were bursted you switched because you did not like the way you were being described by the people you claimed you were in slave business with?
About suicide, of course, in our philosophy, we bow to no man.

About Suicide, I think it was your ancestor's speciality.

For Igbos, we chose death rather than slavery, we bow only to our chi, while Ijo committed suicide for simple things like lack of ogogoro or criticism from a wife.

christistruth01:



Oba Of Benin is of Ife descent

Ekealterego:


Why are you crying? You were boastful about how good you were at keeping slaves , then when your lies were bursted you switched because you did not like the way you were being described by the people you claimed you were in slave business with?
About suicide, of course, in our philosophy, we bow to no man.

About Suicide, I think it was your ancestor's speciality.

For Igbos, we chose death rather than slavery, we bow only to our chi, while Ijo committed suicide for simple things like lack of ogogoro or criticism from a wife.

Kinematics:



You really get time replying the miscreants. They can only make noise online. They should come physically and claim Bonny and Opobo. We are waiting for round 2 of pounding of their skulls. Wike only gave them an intro of what's to come...

JANK23H:

Where was the switch?

That we sold slaves and couldn't be tamed?

I suppose that's something written by your lover Captain Hugh Crow,and I'm supposed to be bothered? Please.....!

JANK23H:

Where was the switch?

That we sold slaves and couldn't be tamed?

I suppose that's something written by your lover Captain Hugh Crow,and I'm supposed to be bothered? Please.....!

OfoIgbo:


Not at all.

Ooni of Ife is of Benin ancestry

Ekealterego:

Nah! no captain Crow here... At least, we have given records from 50 different sources in the 1800s.
You guys didn't have the ability to sell any slaves.

Your ancestors were living on wooden canoes, drunk half of the time, uncivilised and disrupting the civilisation Igbos were bringing to the region.

You produced nothing! Instead of supporting Igbo's production, you decided to be drunk pirates...and an unsuccessful one as you guys were termed, "an infection".

That's not something to be proud of.

Igboid:


You were savages and were never involved in slave trade as sellers.
Atleast not in Bonny and Opobo.

If you say otherwise, provide receipts.
I mean colonial receipts by Jos men selling slaves.
Not Alagoa, Fombo or any other imaginary postulations written after 1966.

You can't wake up in 1966 and start distorting historical facts and expect to be taken seriously today because you have repeated your lies with the help of Nigerian government for 50 plus odd years.
It doesn't work that way.

You said you were slave masters and sold Igbo slaves, we agree! You just have to provide a colonial receipt calling men of Jos slave sellers.

We are waiting for it. You can log in into any online library and key in Ejos, Jos men and slave sellers and see if any thing will come up.
It shouldn't be that hard to find, if it exists.

Christistruth00:

JANK23H:

There you have it.For your reading pleasure.

Attend to my own challenge.

OfoIgbo:


That attachment is not even helping you, because the Sokoto Caliphate has only been around for just a little over 200 years, but the sultan is seated in the front, alongside the Ooni of Ife.

Even the Obi of Onitsha is slightly a little in front of the Oba of Benin, but that doesn't mean the Obi stool is more ancient than the Benin oba stool.

JANK23H:

50 sources indeed...

I threw out a challenge yesterday.Chronicle how the Ijos took over Bonny;by war or brainwashing as y'all keep talking about.As it is, the entire traditional and political structure of Bonny is controlled by Ijos.How did it happen?With the writer stating clearly the intentions of the supposed Ijo invaders.

Please, reference neutral accounts.No more conjectures.

And don't tell me about language.The English language is our lingua franca,that doesn't make us English.Ijos in Ondo speak Yoruba,still doesn't make them Yoruba.

I'm waiting...

Christistruth00:



Ooni is the one in the Center.


Photo: yoruba Obas 1937.


From the Yorubas Obas conference 1937 proceedings
Hosted by Sir Bernard Boudillon Governor General of Nigeria
on 31st March and 1st April 1937



Quoting last paragraph of first page:

“The Chiefs were seated in a horse-shoe formation, with the Oni of Ife ,as the head of the town from which all Yorubas have traditionally sprung at the centre ,and the Alaafin of Oyo at the western and the Oba of Benin at the eastern end, an arrangement which gave general satisfaction.

OfoIgbo:


The Ooni of Ife remains a descendant of Oduduwa, the runaway Benin/Igodomigodo prince, and is now a bonafide Yoruba citizen. The Oba of Benin may also want to associate with his Ooni ancestral brother, as the two of them rule the length and breadth of Yorubaland.

But let's not digress from this thread, which is that Ubani is owned by Igbos

Ekealterego:

Ijaw got nothing to do with it. The closest influence you see there are from first New Calabar (Kalabari) as seen in Finima. and through Brass of Old.
The Ijo have never been mentioned in any capacity when it comes to Bonny history. You guys were basically boat dwelling uncivilised pirates.

That's how history remember you. This is why you are trying to impose as much as possible ijo on any minority group you can find.

Damn, you don't even have any single civilised city.

OfoIgbo:


But the Jos cannibals were not in Bonny. That is really one of the major points of this thread.

So the fact that Jo-men may be buying Itsekiri and Urhobo slaves to cook and eat in Gbaramatu, has nothing to do, with Jos dwelling in Ubani

JANK23H:

And who are the Kalabaris and Brass/Nembe people abeg?

OfoIgbo:


The Ooni of Ife remains a descendant of Oduduwa, the runaway Benin/Igodomigodo prince, and is now a bonafide Yoruba citizen. The Oba of Benin may also want to associate with his Ooni ancestral brother, as the two of them rule the length and breadth of Yorubaland.

But let's not digress from this thread, which is that Ubani is owned by Igbos

Ekealterego:


The ejo and ijaw men were different from these people you mentioned. it was clearly archived and written.

Today, it's more of a political franchise.

Regardless, you asked how the influence came and that's what I described.

The census or headcount done by these explorers clearly described and mentioned that the majority of the people there were Igbos, then a Brass minority (these Brass minority were not Ijo at that time but a mixture of Benin, ibibiod like people and some ijoid inflections).

Ekealterego:


The ejo and ijaw men were different from these people you mentioned. it was clearly archived and written.

Today, it's more of a political franchise.

Regardless, you asked how the influence came and that's what I described.

The census or headcount done by these explorers clearly described and mentioned that the majority of the people there were Igbos, then a Brass minority (these Brass minority were not Ijo at that time but a mixture of Benin, ibibiod like people and some ijoid inflections).

JANK23H:

Okay now it has shifted to slave trading in Bonny abi?

Pacheco Pereira's account (first screenshot) circa 1508

Dr. Fage's commentary on Pacheco Pereira's account

JANK23H:

Okay now it has shifted to slave trading in Bonny abi?

Pacheco Pereira's account (first screenshot) circa 1508

Dr. Fage's commentary on Pacheco Pereira's account

Igboid:

You have shared this snippet hundred times here, and I'm still asking you where Bonny was mentioned there.
Just circle the part. Because it is like my eyes are failing me.
Where was Ijaw mentioned there.

OfoIgbo:


When did I tell you we are now concentrating on slave trading? I am much more interested in knowing who owns Ubani or OKOLOMA as my Ndoki-Igbo owners of Ubani, used to refer to it.

Again, stop posting commentaries and second-hand fiction novels by non-observers. That's usually how Alagoa and the rest start sneaking in and twisting history.

Here, we are only interested in pre-Nigeria raw data and observations by neutral observers and firsthand witnesses.

JANK23H:

Okay now it has shifted to slave trading in Bonny abi?

Pacheco Pereira's account (first screenshot) circa 1508

Dr. Fage's commentary on Pacheco Pereira's account

Ekealterego:

What did the document you upload have to do with Ijaw in Bonny?

You uploaded two different document. one talking about you being river dwelling cannibals... and more damning than what the others described you as.


Then a second document talking about or making a guess about what could be Bonny but didn't say one thing about the inhabitant's origin, language or heritage.


Please, you guys need to up your game... at least be at par with the work we have done so far.

JANK23H:

Check again the footnotes Oga.You post Crow's a million times.I can do same.

Where is the Rio Real located?

Ekealterego:

What did the document you upload have to do with Ijaw in Bonny?

You uploaded two different document. one talking about you being river dwelling cannibals... and more damning than what the others described you as.


Then a second document talking about or making a guess about what could be Bonny but didn't say one thing about the inhabitant's origin, language or heritage.


Please, you guys need to up your game... at least be at par with the work we have done so far.