Steep:
Why are atheist afraid of their own shadow, they are afraid of a man who believes totally in atheistical logical reasoning.
Man without God is nothing but a beast.

Why are you doing this?

adoyi8:

You can sugarcoat Christianity as a moral religion as much as you want but remember one of the most influential role models in the bible, David killed 300 philistines and removed their foreskins just because he wanted to marry abigail. Elijah slaughtered 400 prophets of baal in a single day, I can never imagine doing that as an atheist. So just know that the immoral acts that humans can commit in the name of no religion can also be committed in the name of religion and it is more difficult to dissuade someone who believes that he is carrying an act on command of god.

You cant use emotional appeal to make me believe in God because its something impossible for me to do but people have used emotional appeal to make me go to church or close my eyes to pray and it works frequently.

I have sent you an email.

The closest humanity has come to being totally nuked would be the Flood in Genesis(if we are to believe the bible like you do,Op) and who was responsible ? Your already know the answer
You know there are many interesting things about Noah's ark,I mean I often say to myself how brainwashed can a man to believe that story hook,line and sinker,but here is one that is related to our subject of discourse. Now God asked Noah to warn everyone about the destruction that was coming so they could enter the ark and be saved,my question is just how many people could he have warned. I mean except if the only humans in the world were living in the same town as Noah(which I assume not to be the case) what happened to those living in the other continents,they weren't even given a fair chance to decide,that's by the way
Op ur effort to defend the indefensible (the genocide against the amelekites) is shameful,that passage is so gory and disgusting, there is no excuse for killing people because their ancestors committed a crime and u predict that they would do so,if we were to apply that standard in today's world there would be chaos,there are many other ways ur God would have settled the case what if he had erected a very huge wall between the amelekites and the Israelites preventing them having access to each other there wouldn't have been any need for any bloodshed don't you think

kingxsamz:


Lol, funny answer. So quick question.
If the Hausas in the north start killing Igbos over there, would you suggest that the Igbos wipe out the entire Hausa tribe so that their children don't take up from their parents? Please answer according to how you just defended the genocide in the Verse I provided. Thank you.

First of all, the amalekities were not like the igbos or hausas it is a false equivocation to equate them without understanding the underlining issues at that time and besides the Amalekites were not the only enemies of Israel they were many nations who were against Israel at that time but God never commanded Israel to destroy them completely.
The Amalekites were a constant force of evil seeking to exterminate Israel completely. In the early days of Israel, they attacked Israel at their weakest spot dealing a fatal blow on Israel, the amalekites were a people without the fear of God neither any moral compass whatsoever, for Israel to continue to exist and the world at that time to have some kind of stability such nations must be rooted out completely.

Op to answer your question,I will try to persuade the idiot but I guess it won't work so he would nuke us all,that's fine.
But contrary to what u are subtly implying,if someone was to get to that point then u can't blame it on his irreligiosity its basically because he is a nihilist and an extremist at that. Theists can be nihilist as fvck too,well I assume you would claim a true Christian won't be in such scenario
Quick question,what is your definition of a true Christian, cos I would say a true Christian is one that obeys the bible and the holy spirit. Well if we accept this definition what do you think about this
Mr X is a "true Christian" and sets out to obey every instruction given by God in the bible according to the guidance of the holy spirit,he lives his house in the morning before nightfall he is already in police detention for murdering an adulterer,he claims the holy spirit gave him the permission to do so
Now what does that make Mr X ?
A true Christian, no ?

adoyi8:


You are giving excuses of why your moral role models took out hideous mass murder that makes atheists like myself shudder. All criminals also have good excuses for their crimes. Do you think Adolf Hitler dont have excuses for executing 6 million jews?

You cannot use emotional appeal to persuade someone to believe something but you can persuade him to take a decision/action using emotional appeal. It is a basic tool of persuasion that even children are experts at using so I dont know why it's hard for you to comprehend.

you are contradicting yourself, for a man to take a decision he must belive and be fully convinced of his actions.
Going by your logic attacking bokoharam and Islam is mass murder.

Steep:
lol you ended up not saying anything.

You read and understand what you choose to read and understand . F**k white slave

Steep:
you are contradicting yourself, for a man to take a decision he must belive and be fully convinced of his actions.
Going by your logic attacking bokoharam and Islam is mass murder.

Category error. Islam is not a group of people.

Steep:

First of all, the amalekities were not like the igbos or hausas it is a false equivocation to equate them without understanding the underlining issues at that time and besides the Amalekites were not the only enemies of Israel they were many nations who were against Israel at that time but God never commanded Israel to destroy them completely.
The Amalekites were a constant force of evil seeking to exterminate Israel completely. In the early days of Israel, they attacked Israel at their weakest spot dealing a fatal blow on Israel, the amalekites were a people without the fear of God neither any moral compass whatsoever, for Israel to continue to exist and the world at that time to have some kind of stability such nations must be rooted out completely.

alright let's do another assumption
Let's assume that before God ordered the genocide against the amelekites he gave you the privilege of selecting one of these options for him to execute
A) annihilate the amelekites
B) build a huge wall around them preventing any access with the Israelites
C) manually interfere with any attempt by the amelekites to kill an Israelite
D) make the Israelites invisible to any amelekite who proposes to harm him/her
E) change the minds of the amelekites so they stop harbouring evil against the Israelites

Which would u pick

Hermes119:

alright let's do another assumption
Let's assume that before God ordered the genocide against the amelekites he gave you the privilege of selecting one of these options for him to execute
A) annihilate the amelekites
B) build a huge wall around them preventing any access with the Israelites
C) manually interfere with any attempt by the amelekites to kill an Israelite
D) make the Israelites invisible to any amelekite who proposes to harm him/her
E) change the minds of the amelekites so they stop harbouring evil against the Israelites

Which would u pick

I won't be surprised if he came with a way to negate all the options. LoL

Steep:

First of all, the amalekities were not like the igbos or hausas it is a false equivocation to equate them without understanding the underlining issues at that time and besides the Amalekites were not the only enemies of Israel they were many nations who were against Israel at that time but God never commanded Israel to destroy them completely.
The Amalekites were a constant force of evil seeking to exterminate Israel completely. In the early days of Israel, they attacked Israel at their weakest spot dealing a fatal blow on Israel, the amalekites were a people without the fear of God neither any moral compass whatsoever, for Israel to continue to exist and the world at that time to have some kind of stability such nations must be rooted out completely.

Do you know what an analogy or a scenario is?
I created a scenario and asked if the Hausas were to start doing whatever the Amalekites did to the Igbos, would you support the Igbos to slaughter every Hausa person including children and infants so that they don't grow and become like their parents? It's a direct question, and I need you to answer directly not this explanation you're giving.

LordReed:


I won't be surprised if he came with a way to negate all the options. LoL

Well let's wait and see

LordReed:


I won't be surprised if he came with a way to negate all the options. LoL

He knows if he picks any of those better options, he might just prove he makes better decisions than his god, which will render his morality argument useless.

Hermes119:

Well let's wait and see

Lol, he doesn't want to answer again. He's in an uncomfortable spot. He doesn't want to say anything so he won't shoot himself in the foot.

kingxsamz:


Lol, he doesn't want to answer again. He's in an uncomfortable spot. He doesn't want to say anything so he won't shoot himself in the foot.

We are used to it,there is no tactics he wants to bring that we haven't seen before. He started by gloating,simple kweshion e don run

Hermes119:

We are used to it,there is no tactics he wants to bring that we haven't seen before. He started by gloating,simple kweshion e don run

No be small run.
And he was the one who opened this thread o.

Hermes119:
Op to answer your question,I will try to persuade the idiot but I guess it won't work so he would nuke us all,that's fine.
But contrary to what u are subtly implying,if someone was to get to that point then u can't blame it on his irreligiosity its basically because he is a nihilist and an extremist at that. Theists can be nihilist as fvck too,well I assume you would claim a true Christian won't be in such scenario
Quick question,what is your definition of a true Christian, cos I would say a true Christian is one that obeys the bible and the holy spirit. Well if we accept this definition what do you think about this
Mr X is a "true Christian" and sets out to obey every instruction given by God in the bible according to the guidance of the holy spirit,he lives his house in the morning before nightfall he is already in police detention for murdering an adulterer,he claims the holy spirit gave him the permission to do so
Now what does that make Mr X ?
A true Christian, no ?

The holy spirit can never command a Christian to kill.

OtemAtum:
can you elucidate please?

You were to persuade the mad man

johnydon22:


There are fundamental flaws in your assumptions about morality as held by atheists. You have to first understand that the idea of morality as a God-centered enterprise is majorly an Abrahamic idea, at least in the modern sense. Most cultures developed moral values and ideas without basing these ideas of the authority of God punishing or rewarding certain actions.

So, someone not believing in God is not mutually exclusive with them having firm moral beliefs.

I do not know what you mean by good and evil being products of subatomic interactions, I am hoping you will explain that further

But here is how I will try convincing such a person: I will appeal to their rationality, practicality and curiosity.

1. Rationality: Detonating the nuke serves no purpose to him, so what would it matter to him to detonate it?
2. Practical: He has family members, friends whom I assume he deeply cares about. Why would he want to remove the choice to either live or die from those whom he confesses to love?
3. Curiosity: Assuming that such a person is a nihilist as your post seems to imply, even a nihilist can be curious. We have both seen the scientific wonders, architectural and technological marvels human has been capable of in the last century, wouldn't you like to find out where it is all going? What comes next? Perhaps, you could hold off nuking everyone just yet.

So now OP, assuming this person believes in a God but is determined to nuke everyone, how would you convince them otherwise?

The man in question is a nihilist.

Everything is cosmic dust.
The mad man want everything to reduce to cosmic dust
He probably believe as a justification that humans and animals cause to much pain
He is simply reducing everything to a state of existence as harmless cosmic dusts.

The OP is asking if this man is truly evil and what argument

Hermes119:

alright let's do another assumption
Let's assume that before God ordered the genocide against the amelekites he gave you the privilege of selecting one of these options for him to execute
A) annihilate the amelekites

Annihilating the amalekites is the answer, this because of their past present and future activities.

B) build a huge wall around them preventing any access with the Israelites

this does make any sense, It is like restricting the lives of Israel while the amalekites increases in number and at the same time corrupt the rest of the world.

C) manually interfere with any attempt by the amelekites to kill an Israelite

Why will God stop a man from exercising the free will he gave him? He will punish the actions of humans not stop the from exercising their free will.

D) make the Israelites invisible to any amelekite who proposes to harm him/her

this does not make sense because the amalekities could easily persuade other nations who can see Israel to destroy Israel.

E) change the minds of the amelekites so they stop harbouring evil against the Israelites

Which would u pick

God only changes the heart of those who accept him.

Steep:

The holy spirit can never command a Christian to kill.

1) is this position based on the scriptures or your personal view of the holy spirit,corroborate that statement with verses in the bible
And bear in mind that you have to bring verses that clearly proof that the holy spirit can never command a Christian to kill,it has to be expressly stated or clearly implied to avoid confusion or a "lost in translation" scenario
2) considering that God the father and the holy spirit are the same being as you Christians say, and considering that God the father has commanded Christians on numerous occasions to kill isn't your statement contradictory
3) you seem to imply that it is not in the nature of the holy spirit to kill just as you people teach in Sunday school that the holy spirit is gentle,speaks in a fain voice,leaves quietly when provoked. But have u considered the story of Ananias and Saphira,the bible stated that it was the holy spirit that struck both man and wife,so what would u say about that,the holy spirit orphans children too ?
Meanwhile has he changed,cos politicians come to that altar,all manner of people come to Church pick the microphone and lie and we don't see no striking
P.S when Christians invoke the holy ghost fire in their prayer isn't that asking the holy spirit to do their bidding(kill),so let's get it Christians can command the holy spirit to kill but can't return the favour,come on !

Let me start by saying that when I engage in arguments with Christian apologists the aim is not to win,but to show how dishonest and illogical their arguments are and I think anyone who read ur respons, including Christians( the honest ones) would agree that your submission is laughable
Forgive me for the ad hominem let's get to it

Annihilating the amalekites is the answer, this because of their past present and future activities.

Of course !,they are lesser human beings wiping them out from the surface of the earth is the best option

this doesn't make any sense, It is like restricting the lives of Israel while the amalekites increases in number and at the same time corrupt the rest of the world.

Why would it make sense when its not the option your God choose
Oga I didn't say God should build a wall to shut out the Israelites away from the rest of the world,I said God should build a wall that would restrict the Amalekites from having access to the Israelites.
Alright lets assume u didn't get what I said let me repeat. Would it be better if God built a wall around the Amalekites inhibiting any access to the Israelites,such that doesn't adversely affect the economic interests and survival of both parties ?
Now before you say that constructing such wall is impossible,remember that God can do the impossible,but you are still welcome to say so

God stop a man from exercising the free will he gave him?

To save the Israelites. If God went to the extent of destroying a whole city,why couldn't he explore a simpler and less gruesome alternative. Meanwhile you are twisting my questions. I said God could have manually intervened what that means is this,if an Amalekites shot an arrow at an Israelites God could deflect the path of that arrow or form a shield around the Israelites, stuff like that,how does that affect free will except if free will means that whenever a person proposes to cause another harm God shouldn't intervene and if that was the case then every Christian would be dead.
Meanwhile there are instances where God manually interevened in the interest of the Israelites like when the egyptians were chasing them,u remeber forming a cloud of fire ....,u also remember the prophet from Judah(that was killed on his way home by an animal) when he went to the king to deliver God's message someone tried to strike him and God hungthe persons hand
I've listed precedents from the bible before you tell me that God doesnt do such,now review your answer

He will punish the actions of humans not stop the from exercising their free will.

If this very statement was to be the case then a person can chop off your head right now,maybe get sentenced to death, repent before he is executed(you know he can be in ATM for like 5 years) and then both of you will sing hossanah in heaven, how would you like that ?

this does not make sense because the amalekities could easily persuade other nations who can see Israel to destroy Israel.

The funny thing is that you always start by saying "it doesn't make any sense". Simply say " I won't take this option because it would make my God loom bad for doing what he did" and we would get it,but don't worry I will take this ride.
Fine let's say they engage other nations,what if God was to bring selective blindness (that is to say that only Israelites would be invisible to the person while he can see other things) to anyone be it Amalekites or the people they connive with to hurt Israelites would you review your choice ?

God only changes the heart of those who accept him.

The bible records that God hardened pharoahs heart(that counts for a change) but Pharoah didn't accept him ab innitio what do you have to say about that

Hermes119:

1) is this position based on the scriptures or your personal view of the holy spirit,corroborate that statement with verses in the bible
And bear in mind that you have to bring verses that clearly proof that the holy spirit can never command a Christian to kill,it has to be expressly stated or clearly implied to avoid confusion or a "lost in translation" scenario
2) considering that God the father and the holy spirit are the same being as you Christians say, and considering that God the father has commanded Christians on numerous occasions to kill isn't your statement contradictory
3) you seem to imply that it is not in the nature of the holy spirit to kill just as you people teach in Sunday school that the holy spirit is gentle,speaks in a fain voice,leaves quietly when provoked. But have u considered the story of Ananias and Saphira,the bible stated that it was the holy spirit that struck both man and wife,so what would u say about that,the holy spirit orphans children too ?
Meanwhile has he changed,cos politicians come to that altar,all manner of people come to Church pick the microphone and lie and we don't see no striking
P.S when Christians invoke the holy ghost fire in their prayer isn't that asking the holy spirit to do their bidding(kill),so let's get it Christians can command the holy spirit to kill but can't return the favour,come on !

The Holy Spirit judged Annias and saphira not Peter, John nor another apostles.

Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Calling holy ghost fire to kill one's enemies is obviously not the will of God because Jesus even taught his disciples to pray for their enemies.
But however a Christian can against demonic powers that are at war against him.

Judgment belongs to God not to the Christian.

The Holy Spirit judged Annias and saphira not Peter, John nor another apostles.

Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Mathew 10 vs 34-35
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,and the daughter against her mother,and the daughter in-law against the mother-in-law

The passage above was inspired by the holy spirit and altered by Jesus himself
Makes perfect sense to me that the holy spirit can inspire a person to commit violence, meanwhile we are losing sight of our conversation
The argument I raised is that of a person who set out to obey the bible to the letter and ended up killing an adulterer
You claimed that the holy spirit won't inspire a person to kill,now I have quoted a verse of the bible that gratifies violence altered by Jesus himself as inspired by the holy spirit please bring your rebuttal

Calling holy ghost fire to kill one's enemies is obviously not the will of God because Jesus even taught his disciples to pray for their enemies.
But however a Christian can against demonic powers that are at war against him.

Judgment belongs to God not to the Christian.

What happened to "the kingdom of God suffereth violence ........"

Hermes119:
Let me start by saying that when I engage in arguments with Christian apologists the aim is not to win,but to show how dishonest and illogical their arguments are and I think anyone who read ur respons, including Christians( the honest ones) would agree that your submission is laughable
Forgive me for the ad hominem let's get to it

Of course !,they are lesser human beings wiping them out from the surface of the earth is the best option

It is one of the consequence of evil, it reduces humans to animal level or even less.

Why would it make sense when its not the option your God choose
Oga I didn't say God should build a wall to shut out the Israelites away from the rest of the world,I said God should build a wall that would restrict the Amalekites from having access to the Israelites.

It doesn't make sense because you asking God to protect evil instead of removing it.

Alright lets assume u didn't get what I said let me repeat. Would it be better if God built a wall around the Amalekites inhibiting any access to the Israelites,such that doesn't adversely affect the economic interests and survival of both parties ?
Now before you say that constructing such wall is impossible,remember that God can do the impossible,but you are still welcome to say so

You still not making sense why will God protect evil, since God is holy he does not tolerate sin. When a man/people are given to evil they become valueless spiritually.

To save the Israelites. If God went to the extent of destroying a whole city,why couldn't he explore a simpler and less gruesome alternative. Meanwhile you are twisting my questions. I said God could have manually intervened what that means is this,if an Amalekites shot an arrow at an Israelites God could deflect the path of that arrow or form a shield around the Israelites, stuff like that,how does that affect free will except if free will means that whenever a person proposes to cause another harm God shouldn't intervene and if that was the case then every Christian would be dead.

There is no reason the people of amalekities should still exist obviouy they have passed their boundary.

Meanwhile there are instances where God manually interevened in the interest of the Israelites like when the egyptians were chasing them,u remeber forming a cloud of fire ....,u also remember the prophet from Judah(that was killed on his way home by an animal) when he went to the king to deliver God's message someone tried to strike him and God hungthe persons hand
I've listed precedents from the bible before you tell me that God doesnt do such,now review your answer

yea God still destroy the armies of Pharoah in the red sea. Once a man or people has passed a certain limit of godlesdness there is no turning back, the wages of sin is death.

If this very statement was to be the case then a person can chop off your head right now,maybe get sentenced to death, repent before he is executed(you know he can be in ATM for like 5 years) and then both of you will sing hossanah in heaven, how would you like that ?

while God will not stop anybody from thinking of doing that he can protect me by directing me to move else where. When Jesus was born God simply directed Joseph and Mary to take Jesus to Egypt away from herod because herod wanted to kill all the children, you know why? Because herod had the authority to do so.

The funny thing is that you always start by saying "it doesn't make any sense". Simply say " I won't take this option because it would make my God loom bad for doing what he did" and we would get it,but don't worry I will take this ride.
Fine let's say they engage other nations,what if God was to bring selective blindness (that is to say that only Israelites would be invisible to the person while he can see other things) to anyone be it Amalekites or the people they connive with to hurt Israelites would you review your choice ?

I always said " it does not make sense because you don't know what you are saying.

If the amalekites continue to be, not only will evil continue to increase their evil but they will also continue to corrupt other nations.

The bible records that God hardened pharoahs heart(that counts for a change) but Pharoah didn't accept him ab innitio what do you have to say about that

Read again, it was Pharoah that hardened his heart at first.
Pharaoh sold himself to work iniquity, God only gave him the desires of his heart so he might be destroyed

Hermes119:

Mathew 10 vs 34-35
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,and the daughter against her mother,and the daughter in-law against the mother-in-law

The passage above was inspired by the holy spirit and altered by Jesus himself
Makes perfect sense to me that the holy spirit can inspire a person to commit violence, meanwhile we are losing sight of our conversation
The argument I raised is that of a person who set out to obey the bible to the letter and ended up killing an adulterer

Have you ever read in the bible where Jesus took sword and started killing people? What you don't know is that Jesus works testified of his teachings. But instead we see Jesus saving men's lives.
John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
The best way to understand Jesus teachings is through his works.

You claimed that the holy spirit won't inspire a person to kill,now I have quoted a verse of the bible that gratifies violence altered by Jesus himself as inspired by the holy spirit please bring your rebuttal


What happened to "the kingdom of God suffereth violence ........"

since the holy spirit is in agreement with Jesus, it can never inspire people against the teachings of Jesus.

Steep:
It is one of the consequence of evil, it reduces humans to animal level or even less.

It doesn't make sense because you asking God to protect evil instead of removing it.


You still not making sense why will God protect evil, since God is holy he does not tolerate sin. When a man/people are given to evil they become valueless spiritually.



There is no reason the people of amalekities should still exist obviouy they have passed their boundary.

yea God still destroy the armies of Pharoah in the red sea. Once a man or people has passed a certain limit of godlesdness there is no turning back, the wages of sin is death.

while God will not stop anybody from thinking of doing that he can protect me by directing me to move else where. When Jesus was born God simply directed Joseph and Mary to take Jesus to Egypt away from herod because herod wanted to kill all the children, you know why? Because herod had the authority to do so.


I always said " it does not make sense because you don't know what you are saying.

If the amalekites continue to be, not only will evil continue to increase their evil but they will also continue to corrupt other nations.

You have twisted this story so I will read that passage and curate it

Ist Samuel 15 vs 2-3
Thus says the lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel,how he laid wait for him in the way,when he came up from Egypt
Now go and strike Amalek......

Your argument is that it was right to destroy the Amalekites in that passage because they were evil and if they were preserved they would continue to haunt the Israelites and corrupt the world
My arguments are this
1) The Amalekites that were destroyed were killed because of the sins of their ancestors as can be deduced from the passage. Your claim that they would continue on that path was not corroborated by that passage
2) I'm of the opinion (and I believe that every sane person thinks so too) that people should not suffer for he sins of their fathers much less for the sins of generations hundreds of years before them

As we could see from the passage God annihilated a race
not because they committed a crime
not because they planned to commit a crime
not because they were going to commit a crime in future
But because their ancestors,several hundreds of years before them committed a crime
You say this is acceptable and your God is just, I say you are dishonest and your God is a monster !!

Steep:
Have you ever read in the bible where Jesus took sword and started killing people? What you don't know is that Jesus works testified of his teachings. But instead we see Jesus saving men's lives.
John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
The best way to understand Jesus teachings is through his works.

since the holy spirit is in agreement with Jesus, it can never inspire people against the teachings of Jesus.

Alright fine

Matthew 10 vs 34-35
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth : I came not to send peace,but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in-law against her mother in-law

Please explain the above passage for me
While you are at it remember my initial argument was that holy spirit can inspire violence but u claim otherwise,consider it a scenario where u are a jury and before you is an activist who claims he doesn't inspire violence but in a book he authored u find a statement akin to that passage I quoted

Hermes119:


You have twisted this story so I will read that passage and curate it

Ist Samuel 15 vs 2-3
Thus says the lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel,how he laid wait for him in the way,when he came up from Egypt
Now go and strike Amalek......

Your argument is that it was right to destroy the Amalekites in that passage because they were evil and if they were preserved they would continue to haunt the Israelites and corrupt the world
My arguments are this
1) The Amalekites that were destroyed were killed because of the sins of their ancestors as can be deduced from the passage. Your claim that they would continue on that path was not corroborated by that passage
2) I'm of the opinion (and I believe that every sane person thinks so too) that people should not suffer for he sins of their fathers much less for the sins of generations hundreds of years before them

As we could see from the passage God annihilated a race
not because they committed a crime
not because they planned to commit a crime
not because they were going to commit a crime in future
But because their ancestors,several hundreds of years before them committed a crime
You say this is acceptable and your God is just, I say you are dishonest and your God is a monster !!

you should take time to study the amalekites relationship with Israel. They were the first nation to directly oppose Israel when they were coming out from Egypt.
They known Israel was in Egypt for over 400 years and had just gotten her freedom through yahweh but they still came out against Israel. Where other nations feared, the amalekites showed defiance and dated.

That was the day the death of Amalek nation was sign. That singular action encouraged other nation to war against Israel, the Amalekites were a bitter nation to Israel.
Do you know that, it was that the king of amalek that Saul spared that later killed him?

Hermes119:

Alright fine

Matthew 10 vs 34-35
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth : I came not to send peace,but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in-law against her mother in-law

Please explain the above passage for me
While you are at it remember my initial argument was that holy spirit can inspire violence but u claim otherwise,consider it a scenario where u are a jury and before you is an activist who claims he doesn't inspire violence but in a book he authored u find a statement akin to that passage I quoted

If the one the activist claims to follow has no record of violence then it would be clear that book is misunderstood.
Again in Mathew 10vv34-35 Jesus never commanded his disciples to kill.
What Jesus said is true, due to his teachings people would be at constant disagreement with each other, Christians was betrayed, murdered, dealt violently with because of Jesus teachings, this is what Jesus meant.
As for Jesus commanding his disciples to by a sword, note that they brought two swords but Jesus said it is enough and he never commanded them to use the sword. Even when Peter cut of the ears of the high priest servant Jesus he rebuked Peter and healed him.
Jesus telling them to buy a sword, meant he was telling them to expect the worst and be prepared for it.
This sword is symbol of the spiritual weapon a Christian must use to overcome the enemy.

2 Corinthians 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

Steep:
you should take time to study the amalekites relationship with Israel. They were the first nation to directly oppose Israel when they were coming out from Egypt.
They known Israel was in Egypt for over 400 years and had just gotten her freedom through yahweh but they still came out against Israel. Where other nations feared, the amalekites showed defiance and dated.

That was the day the death of Amalek nation was sign. That singular action encouraged other nation to war against Israel, the Amalekites were a bitter nation to Israel.
Do you know that, it was that the king of amalek that Saul spared that later killed him?

Firstly any claim you are making should be backed up with scripture,anyother thing would be considered a rhetoric
My point still remains valid until proven otherwise, God annihilated a generation of Amalekites for the sins of their forefather,several hundred years before them . This to me is not moral, c'est finis.

Hermes119:

Firstly any claim you are making should be backed up with scripture,anyother thing would be considered a rhetoric
My point still remains valid until proven otherwise, God annihilated a generation of Amalekites for the sins of their forefather,several hundred years before them . This to me is not moral, c'est finis.

when the children continue in the sins of their forefathers then they bare the iniquities of their forefathers.