First of all tithing is a spiritual princinple and I dont expect a carnal man to understand the things of the spirit so if you are not a true Christian then I don't expect you to understand where I am coming from.


In the beginning, we Christians should remember that we are the seed of Abraham, and as the seed of Abraham, we should walk like him. For example Abraham showed complete and total faith in God Almighty and so should we as the spiritual seed of Abraham.


Now the issue of tithing is this;

Tithing can be defined as the act of acknowledging the presence of God in your life by giving 10% fraction of your income to the messenger of God. The messenger of God is the person that bring to you the word of God daily.


Abraham payed his tithe to a messenger of God in the person of Melchizedek.

The children of isreal who were the direct seed of Abraham also did the same thing by acknowledging the messengers of God which were the tribe of levi as at that time.


Now we as Christians who are known as the spiritual seed of Abraham should copy our patriarch by also acknowledging the men that is bringing the word of God to us with our substance.




Remember the essence of life is to know God and acknowledge him in every way possible and one of the best way to acknowledge God is by acknowledging the men that speaks the word of God to you.




Now God understood that payment of tithe will be subjective if left for man to decide for himself, so that's why he instructed the children of isreal to pay their 10% income to Him as a sign of acknowledgment, this is done so that every man, rich or poor can be comfortable giving what he has to the lord.



So if you want to pay your tithe to the orphanange and the poor, remember that tithe means acknowledging the men of God that brings God word to you. So you should ask yourself if the poor and orphanage are the ones bringing the word of God to you or not.


Now I am not saying that you should not give to the poor and needy but remember that God requires only your 10% which means that you can share the remaining 90% of your income between yourself and the poor.


Finnaly I will conclude that the men of God needs to have this deep fellowship with God at all times but the hunger of this world will distract him from fellowship with God.
for example, the thoughts of feeding his hungry stomach.
So that's why God created this tithing system so that His messengers can fellowship with Him at all times because the thought of hunger that could distract him from fellowshiping with God has been quenched by the tithe of the children of God and at return these particular group of children of God who obeyed God word concerning tithe get blessed and becomes fruitful in the land.



This is the same principle Isaac obeyed and that was why Isaac dug a well and found water but others dug and found nothing. That's the advantage tithing gives you.



Remember in the garden of eden, God instructed Adam and Eve to eat of every tree but one tree. Today that one tree is the 10% of your income. Don't disobey God like Adam and Eve did because we saw their end. Thank you �

Robbers robbing people of their hard earned money in the name of tithe.

I was paying 5% of my profit before as Tithe because things were tough & my pastor said it was contribution & not Tithe. That 10% must correct else I will end up in hell fire.
Now biz is booming & I'm paying 15% as Tithe. It's like I will still go to hell. Infact if you are paying 9.9% or 10.1% you will go to hell. If need be,
engaged an accountant to ensure it is exactly 10.00% else hell fire awaits you. Shalom.

kodded:
First of all tithing is a spiritual princinple and I dont expect a carnal man to understand the things of the spirit so if you are not a true Christian then I don't expect you to understand where I am coming from.

Stop lying in the name of God.

If 20 members earning 1000 each monthly gives their pastor 10% of their sweat, the pastor will make 2000 monthly while his sheeples will be left with 900. Multiply that by 2000 members and the con artist will be making 200,000 monthly while the 2000 suckers will still be left with 900 each. We’ve not taken offering, thanksgiving, first fruit, faith seed, testimony offering, building donations and other money spinning formats into account o

Amazing monkey dey work, baboon dey chop system.

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying in the name of God.

please list the lies thank you

Ola17:
If 20 members earning 1000 each monthly gives their pastor 10% of their sweat, the pastor will make 2000 monthly while his sheeples will be left with 900. Multiply that by 2000 members and the con artist will be making 200,000 monthly while the 2000 suckers will still be left with 900 each. We’ve not taken offering, thanksgiving, first fruit, faith seed, testimony offering, building donations and other money spinning formats into account o

Amazing monkey dey work, baboon dey chop system.

Hmmmm but that is the blessings for being the messenger of God, or do you expect God messenger to beg for food from his congregation?

kodded:
please list the lies thank you

Your entire writeup is wrought with lies this since you don't even realize that there is a separation that exists between God's Old Covenant Law of Moses in the Kingdom of Canaan, and Jesus Christ, His New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God.
Even more irritating is the fact that you confuse the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned were lies, with the Truth of God.

Amotolongbo:
Robbers robbing people of their hard earned money in the name of tithe.

Lol so according to you Melchizedek was a robber who robbed Abraham of his loot from the war?


Well to you tithing is foolish but remember the scripture 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Quest7777:
I was paying 5% of my profit before as Tithe because things were tough & my pastor said it was contribution & not Tithe. That 10% must correct else I will end up in hell fire.
Now biz is booming & I'm paying 15% as Tithe. It's like I will still go to hell. Infact if you are paying 9.9% or 10.1% you will go to hell. If need be,
engaged an accountant to ensure it is exactly 10.00% else hell fire awaits you. Shalom.

lol



It's a shame you ended up in a church that does not understand the true gospel. Please NOTE THAT PAYING OF TITHE DOES NOT GUARANTEE YOU HEAVEN, WHAT GUARANTEE YOU HEAVEN IS IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST OVER YOUR LIFE .




By the way tithing is for your prosperity and not your salvation

U

kodded:


Lol so according to you Melchizedek was a robber who robbed Abraham of his loot from the war?


Well to you tithing is foolish but remember the scripture 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

So Jesus Christ was foolish not to have paid it or requested for it?

Kobojunkie:
Your entire writeup is wrought with lies this since you don't even realize that there is a separation that exists between God's Old Covenant Law of Moses in the Kingdom of Canaan, and Jesus Christ, His New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God.
Even more irritating is the fact that you confuse the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned were lies, with the Truth of God.

But Abraham paying his tithe to a messenger of God in the person of Melchizedek happened before the old covenant law with moses.



Galatians 3:28 There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male or female. For you are all Christians—you are one in Christ Jesus. And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you.


This scripture above cleary explain to us that we as Christians have become the spiritual seed of Abraham and as a spiritual seed of Abraham we must learn to treat God the same way Papa Abraham who is our spiritual Father treated God, and one of the ways Abraham treated God was by acknowledging the messengers of God that came to share the word of God to him (Abraham)

Besides you cannot be singing Abraham blessings are mine in church everyday, yet you dont want to follow what he did while on earth. That's hypocrisy

Amotolongbo:
USo Jesus Christ was foolish not to have paid it or requested for it?

where did Jesus not pay tithe ?

kodded:
But Abraham paying his tithe to a messenger of God in the person of Melchizedek happened before the old covenant law with moses.

Abraham did not pay anything close to Tithe as defined and commanded by God in the books of Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

kodded:
where did Jesus not pay tithe ?

The best way to answer that question is to show us where Jesus paid tithe and not this your needless question

Amotolongbo:
USo Jesus Christ was foolish not to have paid it or requested for it?

I have explained to you that tithe means acknowledging the messengers of God that is sharing the word of God to you in your life.


Now let's look at the scripture again

St. Matthew 26:7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.

This is equivalent of paying of tithe, since the woman motives was to bless Jesus who at that time was a messagener of God, sharing God's word to the world.

St. Matthew 26:8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?
St. Matthew 26:9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.

Clearly, you will notice that the disciples reaction to what the woman did is similar to the reaction we get today, where you will hear people saying it's better to give to the poor than to pay tithe.

St. Matthew 26:10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
St. Matthew 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

Now this is Jesus response, He never rebuked the woman, rather he acknowledged her kind gestures and rebuked His disciples instead.


Now I am not saying giving to the poor is wrong but if you remove 10% from your income, you will have 90% to take care for yourself and the needy. Simple and shot.



May I also add that paying of tithe is an act of faith because at that moment you are relying on God's word over the money that is in your hand.

Amotolongbo:
The best way to answer that question is to show us where Jesus paid tithe and not this your needless question

I have explained to you that tithe means acknowledging the messengers of God that is sharing the word of God to you in your life.

If you can't understand this simple definition then there is no point explaining anything to you again

Kobojunkie:
Abraham did not pay anything close to Tithe as defined and commanded by God in the books of Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

Wetin this one dey takk for mouth ?

Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
Genesis 14:19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
Genesis 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

kodded:
Wetin this one dey takk for mouth ?

Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
Genesis 14:19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
Genesis 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Tithing is a Law designed and defined by God Himself, this in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy , and not according to your will.

What Abraham did in Genesis 14 was in no way in obedience of God's Law of tithing and so it is not true to assert that Abraham tithed in God's Name.

kodded:
I have explained to you that tithe means acknowledging the messengers of God that is sharing the word of God to you in your life.


Now let's look at the scripture again


This is equivalent of paying of tithe, since the woman motives was to bless Jesus who at that time was a messagener of God, sharing God's word to the world.



Clearly, you will notice that the disciples reaction to what the woman did is similar to the reaction we get today, where you will hear people saying it's better to give to the poor than to pay tithe.



Now this is Jesus response, He never rebuked the woman, rather he acknowledged her kind gestures and rebuked His disciples instead.


Now I am not saying giving to the poor is wrong but if you remove 10% from your income, you will have 90% to take care for yourself and the needy. Simple and shot.



May I also add that paying of tithe is an act of faith because at that moment you are relying on God's word over the money that is in your hand.

Tithe like you said is the 10% of one’s earning or property?

Where did you read that the alabaster box of precious ointment was the woman’s 10% in the scripture you quoted?

Kobojunkie:
Tithing is a Law designed and defined by God Himself, this in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy , and not according to your will.

What Abraham did in Genesis 14 was in no way in obedience of God's Law of tithing and so it is not true to assert that Abraham tithed in God's Name.

Genesis 14:20 And [b]blessed be the most high God, [/b]which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.



Obviously Abraham paid tithe because God delivered his enemies to him. So that was done in God's name.

Tithing was a law to the children of Isreal because obviously they needed to follow the footsteps of their Father. So God had to make it a law so that they must continue in that process because if God didn't place it as a law to the children of Isreal, they wouldn't have bother paying tithe and they would have missed the blessings gotten form tithe because at that time it was only Abraham that knew about the spiritual mystery of tithe and not the children of isreal.

That's why it became a law to the children of Isreal but it was a freewill giving to Abraham because Abraham knew the spiritual mystery of tithe and not the children of isreal.

Amotolongbo:
Tithe like you said is the 10% of one’s earning or property?

Where did you read that the alabaster box of precious ointment was the woman’s 10% in the scripture you quoted?

From my definition, what is tithe?

Read the op again and read where I mentioned why God placed 10% as Tithe.



It's obvious you still dont understand what tithing means generally, so there is no point explaining things to you again.

Adios


But I pray you grow in your spiritual understanding so that you will finnaly understand where I'm coming from because a carnal man can never understand the things of the spirit thank you

kodded:


Genesis 14:20 And [b]blessed be the most high God, [/b]which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.



Obviously Abraham paid tithe because God delivered his enemies to him. So that was done in God's name.

Tithing was a law to the children of Isreal because obviously they needed to follow the footsteps of their Father. So God had to make it a law so that they must continue in that process because if God didn't place it as a law to the children of Isreal, they wouldn't have bother paying tithe and they would have missed the blessings gotten form tithe because at that time it was only Abraham that knew about the spiritual mystery of tithe and not the children of isreal.

That's why it became a law to the children of Isreal but it was a freewill giving to Abraham because Abraham knew the spiritual mystery of tithe and not the children of isreal.

Again...Tithing is a Law designed and defined by God Himself, this in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy , and not according to your will.

What Abraham did in Genesis 14 was in no way in obedience of God's Law of tithing and so it is not true to assert that Abraham tithed in God's Name.

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That I live in a house with 9 other people and pay 1/10th of the bills does not in anyway mean I have paid tithes according to God.

Stop lying in the name of God.

Kobojunkie:
Again...Tithing is a Law designed and defined by God Himself, this in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy , and not according to your will.

What Abraham did in Genesis 14 was in no way in obedience of God's Law of tithing and so it is not true to assert that Abraham tithed in God's Name.

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That I live in a house with 9 other people and pay 1/10th of the bills does not in anyway mean I have paid tithes according to God.

Stop lying in the name of God.

Kk

To your own understanding but as long as you give your life to Christ, that is the most important thing.


Do have a lovely evening

kodded:


Hmmmm but that is the blessings for being the messenger of God, or do you expect God messenger to beg for food from his congregation?

chief how I go believe say these people na God messenger when I no be small pikin?
If God is as powerful as we believe it to be, he doesn’t need a mortal like me to pass a message to me does he? God, if it exists, didn’t send anybody and a god that needs 10% of my money to bless me is nothing but a pure scam!

Come to think of it, what’s the difference between tithing/offering for blessing and the lottery format that yahoo boys use? Yahoo boys will tell you that you won $1million, but you have to send them $1000 in advance in order to claim the money. God that supposedly created everything compared to my infinitesimal resources doesn’t need my money.

Reason am.

kodded:
Kk

To your own understanding but as long as you give your life to Christ, that is the most important thing.
Do have a lovely evening

Wrong! God's Tithing law is, as many of your mogs like to say, of a different dispensation than Jesus Christ is. It is a sin to tithe in the Name of Jesus Christ.

kodded:


From my definition, what is tithe?

Read the op again and read where I mentioned why God placed 10% as Tithe.



It's obvious you still dont understand what tithing means generally, so there is no point explaining things to you again.

Adios


But I pray you grow in your spiritual understanding so that you will finnaly understand where I'm coming from because a carnal man can never understand the things of the spirit thank you

intelligence is your weakness!

You that have grown in spiritual understanding, what is your contribution to life and humanity than spamming a public forum?

You had better grown up

Amotolongbo:
intelligence is your weakness!

You that have grown in spiritual understanding, what is your contribution to life and humanity than spamming a public forum?

You had better grown up

Thank you. God bless you


I will rather be seen as a fool in the world standard while God sees me as a wise man.


I do hope that you have given your life to Jesus Christ because that is the real matter


Modified: I hope you can 'understand' this bible verse oh intelligent guru

1 Corinthians 1:26 For [simply] consider your own call, brethren; not many [of you were considered to be] wise according to human estimates and standards, not many influential and powerful, not many of high and noble birth.

1 Corinthians 1:27 [No] for God selected (deliberately chose) what in the world is foolish to put the wise to shame, and what the world calls weak to put the strong to shame.

1 Corinthians 1:28 And God also selected (deliberately chose) what in the world is lowborn and insignificant and branded and treated with contempt, even the things that are nothing, that He might depose and bring to nothing the things that are,

1 Corinthians 1:29 So that no mortal man should [have pretense for glorying and] boast in the presence of God

Ola17:


chief how I go believe say these people na God messenger when I no be small pikin?
If God is as powerful as we believe it to be, he doesn’t need a mortal like me to pass a message to me does he? God, if it exists, didn’t send anybody and a god that needs 10% of my money to bless me is nothing but a pure scam!

Come to think of it, what’s the difference between tithing/offering for blessing and the lottery format that yahoo boys use? Yahoo boys will tell you that you won $1million, but you have to send them $1000 in advance in order to claim the money. God that supposedly created everything compared to my infinitesimal resources doesn’t need my money.

Reason am.

First of all if you are not a born again, then there is no point explaining the deep mystery to you since you will always find a fault in my explanation.


Read the op clearly, I was talking to fellow born again Christians who understand the word of God in it pure form.


So if you are not born again. I will not respond to you because you and I will just derail this thread further. Thank you

[s]

kodded:


Thank you. God bless you


I will rather be seen as a fool in the world standard while God sees me as a wise man.


I do hope that you have given your life to Jesus Christ because that is the real matter


Modified: I hope you can 'understand' this bible verse oh intelligent guru

[/s]your call has nothing to do with God

Amotolongbo:
[s][/s]your call has nothing to do with God

God bless you.

Hope you are happy now

kodded:


First of all if you are not a born again, then there is no point explaining the deep mystery to you since you will always find a fault in my explanation.


Read the op clearly, I was talking to fellow born again Christians who understand the word of God in it pure form.


So if you are not born again. I will not respond to you because you and I will just derail this thread further. Thank you

If you mean born again as in being gullible, sorry I’m not your quarry. You can’t sell me promises that lacks empirical evidence in exchange for 10% of my hard earned money.

Good luck!