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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 5:23pm On Dec 27, 2021
emmyN:


Will you post will your real account so someone can at least give what you say some credibility?

I agree with FEGEITOK here, both parties need to communicate through their lawyers. While we obviously don't have all the information, from what I've seen, there is nothing concrete that can substantiate the allegation of fraud yet. And there is an active law in Nigeria, whoever seeks redress can always get justice. Egunmogaji has told us that.

I also think QSFemi needs to lend his voice here since he seems to be at the center of the misunderstanding. Did you present a valuation that was found to be erroneous and subsequently reviewed?

This is my account on this forum

Myprevious account is well known on this thread-
"onetimeonly"- way before this fiasco. This not a secret

(I do not hold brief for any of the parties involved)

However, many people locally,in the diaspora and internationally are watching and we should hold ourselves accountable.
If we cannot police ourselves on the most popular construction thread in Nigeria.... Lord help us

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 5:46pm On Dec 27, 2021
FEGEITOK:
Need I tell you how many untoward things banks do that have led to lawsuits against them by clients?

If those same clients called the banks criminal, do you know how the banks would use that against the client?

But if the same client is properly advised and proceeds against the bank can milk millions from the bank?

I know two people who fought the banks, one won 5m settlement, another won 10m using our courts.

I speak from experience don't let emotions make a bad matter worse.


Sir,
There is a very STRAIGHT FORWARD AND CLEAR way to deal with retail bank complaints In Nigeria for regular folks like you and I.

https://www.cbn.gov.ng/supervision/cpdcomgt.asp

I have resolved things this way and you will be surprised how efficiently they work . It is truly one of the few government organizations/processes that works in this country. Every bank is scared of the complaint process and wants to resolve issues quickly before they escalate.

If you doubt check the fines the bank pay for not resolving regular issues promptly.

This is not about emotion but simple decency.

We both know that cases like this do not belong in the courts if we really want to be decent about it.

I will leave to your judgement on who has been decent in this case and who needs to do the needful

Selah...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:51pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:


The dwarf fence you built for my younger brother was just a fence and took more than 8 days. Show proof it was 8 days.


I honestly didn’t know May 4 to May 12 is more than 8 working days

https://www.nairaland.com/6450270/construction-journal-xl6-trillion-atrium/3#101369261

These are some of the irrefutable claims. No drama, no ambiguities. We did what we were paid to do without back and forths.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8RPk3QAEs


________

Even the raft of your own fence and 50% of the fence wall was raised in less than 4 days. Abi na lie?

The thread still exists. We spent the rest of the months doing dramas learning how to build a 10sqm security house.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 5:54pm On Dec 27, 2021
Stopthecap:



Sir,
There is a very STRAIGHT FORWARD AND CLEAR way to deal with retail bank complaints In Nigeria for regular folks like you and I.

https://www.cbn.gov.ng/supervision/cpdcomgt.asp

I have resolved things this way and you will be surprised how efficiently they work . It is truly one of the few government organizations/processes that works in this country. Every bank is scared of the complaint process and wants to resolve issues quickly before they escalate.

If you doubt check the fines the bank pay for not resolving regular issues promptly.

This is not about emotion but simple decency.

We both know that cases like this do not belong in the courts if we really want to be decent about it.

I will leave to your judgement on who has been decent in this case and who needs to do the needful

Selah...

That won't led to an award of 5m or 10m like the cases I mentioned.

Every action and inaction creates legal rights or legal liabilities.

Not everyone knows that.

Some do, and take full advantage.

The guy that got 5m is on Nairaland.

When the parties cannot resolve their issues, it is time for a third party to be involved, a third party that will not take sides, a third party that will review all the relevant evidence, and a third party that will not jump into the fray, and that will give both side sufficient time and space to defend their claims.

There is no civil dispute the judiciary cannot handle!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 6:32pm On Dec 27, 2021
n3xt:


I honestly didn’t know May 4 to May 12 is more than 8 working days

https://www.nairaland.com/6450270/construction-journal-xl6-trillion-atrium/3#101369261

These are some of the irrefutable claims. No drama, no ambiguities. We did what we were paid to do without back and forths.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8RPk3QAEs


________

Even the raft of your own fence and 50% of the fence wall was raised in less than 4 days. Abi na lie?

The thread still exists. We spent the rest of the months doing dramas learning how to build a 10sqm security house.

For those who can spot truth.

Check the date my younger brother paid him in the screenshot (2nd May 2021).

Check the date he updated me that the fence was 90% completed (16th of May 2021).

That is how many days?

Maybe I don't know how to count 8 days again, at least you can't change the date on a previous chat.

It was to last 1 week.

You must be a clown.

I still have my questions above you have failed to provide evidences to, but here you are jumping about on irrelevant things even though they are still lies.


Keywords : Fraud, dishonesty, irresponsible, incompetency

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IDnoble80: 6:39pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:


For those who can spot truth.

Check the date my younger brother paid him in the screenshot (2nd May 2021).

Check the date he updated me that the fence was 90% completed (16th of May 2021).

That is how many days?

Maybe I don't know how to count 8 days again, at least you can't change the date on a previous chat.

It was to last 1 week.

You must be a clown.

I still have my questions above you have failed to provide evidences to, but here you are jumping about on irrelevant things even though they are still lies.

Oops this guy no sabi lie

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 6:41pm On Dec 27, 2021
IDnoble80:


Oops this guy no sabi lie

So irritating.


Do you know how many lies I tolerated while he was on the job?

I'd be on site without his knowledge, call him and ask for updates, he'd be lying to me while I'm on site about work progress.

Too many stuffs I tolerated because I wanted him to succeed for our own good.


Keywords : Fraud, dishonesty, irresponsible, incompetency

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:42pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:


For those who can spot truth.

Check the date my younger brother paid him in the screenshot (2nd May 2021).

Check the date he updated me that the fence was 90% completed (16th of May 2021).

That is how many days?

Maybe I don't know how to count 8 days again, at least you can't change the date on a previous chat.

It was to last 1 week.

You must be a clown.

Youtube is there to provide evidence grin

This excludes the days we were stopped by the estate management because of height restrictions o.
I keep records of stuffs like this because of issues like this.

Abi YouTube video has been doctored

_______

Even a dumb person would know you asked your brother (in the chat) if his fence has been completed on the 16th of May, are you expecting his reply to come earlier than the date you asked him?

Sigh!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:55pm On Dec 27, 2021
I really don’t know why you find it very interesting to twist things to make up fictitious claims.

Here’s my response to you on the 14th of May 2021 when you asked if the fence has been completed.

I even replied you with a picture update.

Na wa o!

Now I understand why we always have issues.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 6:56pm On Dec 27, 2021
n3xt:


Youtube is there to provide evidence grin

This excludes the days we were stopped by the estate management because of height restrictions o.
I keep records of stuffs like this because of issues like this.

Abi YouTube video has been doctored

_______

Even a dumb person would know you asked your brother (in the chat) if his fence has been completed on the 16th of May, are you expecting his reply to come earlier than the date you asked him?

Sigh!

I don't have time for irrelevance, because they are things that can be easily debunked. They are of no use to what's on ground.

I'm waiting for you to post what you claimed to be the refund due to me on this thread and also evidence to those things you claimed weren't your responsibility.

You have left all these to be facing irrelevance because you know it will nail you.

Keywords : Fraud, dishonesty, irresponsible, incompetency

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:00pm On Dec 27, 2021
n3xt:
I really don’t know why you find it very interesting to twist things to make up fictitious claims.

Here’s my response to you on the 14th of May 2021 when you asked if the fence has been completed.

I even replied you with a picture update.

Na wa o!

Now I understand why we always have issues.

Even your post and picture worked against you.

Do you even listen to yourself?

2nd to 14th even though the back yet to be completed and you are saying you did the job in 8 days?

I asked on the 16th and he said 90%, meaning as at 16th, you still haven't completed the job. What a shame. Everyone is reading and wondering what's wrong with you.

Who did this to you?

How do you comfortably lie against evidences you provide yourself?


Keywords : Fraud, dishonesty, irresponsible, incompetency

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:04pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:


Even your post and picture worked against you.

Do you even listen to yourself?

2nd to 14th even though the back yet to be completed and you are saying you did the job in 8 days?

Who did this to you?

How do you comfortably lie against evidences you provide yourself?

By now the smart ones on this forum would have understand how difficult you are sir?

When do you expect me to respond to a question asked on the 14th May? Do you expect it to come earlier than 14th May?

It’s wel!

This is just one of the too many issues you give on your project. Too many back and forths on unnecessaries

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:06pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:


I asked on the 16th and he said 90%, meaning as at 16th, you still haven't completed the job. What a shame. Everyone is reading and wondering what's wrong with you.

Smiles.

You asked someone who didn’t visit his project but only relied on information given to him by me the status of his project and I gave it to you.

You that you have a supervisor on site that gives you daily updates on activities on the site.

Well check the picture sent on the 14th sir and tell what else there is to add to a fence.

It’s well!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:08pm On Dec 27, 2021
He rather ignores the issue, its a known tactics he uses.

Drag you on and on wasting your time on irrelevance, never ready to face the matter.

Unfortunately, people like him have taken opportunities away from genuine builders on this thread.

You will vomit my money with you if you actually have it or something will replace it.

It will happen in a manner you won't be expecting.


Keywords : Fraud, dishonesty, irresponsible, incompetency

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:16pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:
He rather ignores the issue, its a known tactics he uses.

Drag you on and on wasting your time on irrelevance, never ready to face the matter.

Unfortunately, people like him have taken opportunities away from genuine builders on this thread.

You will vomit my money with you if you actually have it or something will replace it.

It will happen in a manner you won't be expecting.


Keywords : Fraud, dishonesty, irresponsible, incompetency

As per your request sir, I’ll definitely start with the laughable valuation reports that were sent to me.

I’ll be happy to upload all the versions for the world to see then share my own proposal which is nothing but the bill of quantity prepared for the contract.

I’ve been busy since morning. I’ll hopefully free up time later in the week to share everything.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:19pm On Dec 27, 2021
n3xt:


As per your request sir, I’ll definitely start with the laughable valuation reports that were sent to me.

I’ll be happy to upload all the versions for the world to see then share my own proposal which is nothing but the bill of quantity prepared for the contract.

I’ve been busy since morning. I’ll hopefully free up time later in the week to share everything.

As usual, busy but you had time for irrelevance!

Typical.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:30pm On Dec 27, 2021
somehow:


As usual, busy but you had time for irrelevance!

Typical.

Tbh, I’m busy right now. I need to chop the semo as e dey hot.

Uploading the doc can wait.

All those irrelevant issues do matter a lot to me. It reveals the position of the other party to me. I told the QS the same thing during our review.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Drdreluv: 7:33pm On Dec 27, 2021
Well spoken.....no be. Lie avoid that drama contractor at all cost
seankim:
Some problems are at best, should be avoided at all cost.

Why carry your money give person wey don nack many people uppercut, with evidence for this same forum many times?

You read Many adults wailing after being cornered and you think those one's are just coincidences abi?

Guyman go don see you finish, when you loose guard, nack you uppercut com take English twist matter,scatter ya head and take am drag you.

My prayer to everyone wey hustle hard to make him money be say, God no go gree us fall for con men disguising as contractors for here.

Everything was well planned out from the outset!!!

Seasons greetings everyone!!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 7:41pm On Dec 27, 2021
FEGEITOK:


That won't led to an award of 5m or 10m like the cases I mentioned.

Every action and inaction creates legal rights or legal liabilities.

Not everyone knows that.

Some do, and take full advantage.

The guy that got 5m is on Nairaland.

When the parties cannot resolve their issues, it is time for a third party to be involved, a third party that will not take sides, a third party that will review all the relevant evidence, and a third party that will not jump into the fray, and that will give both side sufficient time and space to defend their claims.

There is no civil dispute the judiciary cannot handle!

I will take your naivete on construction disputes to be deliberate at best or innocent.

If there is no third-party adjudication in the contract, It cannot be introduced now unless mandated by a court, and we both know the country we are in. Like I said judge for yourself who is the party at most fault is.

I am sure you are confident in a Judiciary that takes 35 years to solve simple land dispute cases?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Drdreluv: 7:52pm On Dec 27, 2021
Thanks bro....scammer wouldn't do the needful there will keep look for excuses
bolu1986:


Why are you complicating simple issue sir?
Accept your fault and seek redress… why can’t you schedule a meeting with your client and get this sorted? How difficult it this? Everything shouldn’t be here bro..

I come in peace !!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 7:56pm On Dec 27, 2021
Drama King grin grin grin

Be sure of one thing, any business you do with n3xt, brabus, nexthome or brabusng is sure to lead to fraud. He will chop your money.

Dude spends all his time researching on the best ways to sweep guys pockets clean and walk away free, with a mocking smile on his twisted lips grin

Yahoo boy with a shovel.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 8:00pm On Dec 27, 2021
Everyday for the thief, one day for the owner.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:00pm On Dec 27, 2021
n3xt:


Tbh, I’m busy right now. I need to chop the semo as e dey hot.

Uploading the doc can wait. grin

All those irrelevant issues do matter a lot to me. It reveals the position of the other party to me. I told the QS the same thing during our review.


Enjoy yourself jawe, nothing do you. If they keep falling for your scam, who are you not to clean them out? grin
There should be an award for the best scammer of the year and we will crown you King by June every year because no one else comes close. Hushpuppy day learn work for your levels.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:03pm On Dec 27, 2021
Stopthecap:
Everyday for the thief, one day for the owner.

There's nothing you can do to this guy. He's miles ahead of his victims. Dude plans his moves ahead of getting a mugu and he unloads his format in the form of a agreement. Mugu walks in and signs his death warrant. Brabus will be drinking champagne and laughing at all of you right now. I learned this is his 12th victim?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 8:05pm On Dec 27, 2021
Still in the business of providing affordable housing, if you have a plan of building your house in 2022, start with me.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:07pm On Dec 27, 2021
My friend here said 14th victim now. Said there are many others too ashamed to come forward, they licked their wounds and left in anger at being scammed.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:08pm On Dec 27, 2021
BrickDevo:
Still in the business of providing affordable housing, if you have a plan of building your house in 2022, start with me.

You have been supporting brabus, if I give you job, owo no go enter Bush so ?grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 8:09pm On Dec 27, 2021
Stopthecap:


I will take your naivete on construction disputes to be deliberate at best or innocent.

If there is no third-party adjudication in the contract, It cannot be introduced now unless mandated by a court, and we both know the country we are in. Like I said judge for yourself who is the party at most fault is.

I am sure you are confident in a Judiciary that takes 35 years to solve simple land dispute cases?

Bolded is my cue to let be.

I don't do ad hominem.

Good luck.

I've made my point.

I therefore disengage.

A contractual dispute between a builder and a homeowner is not one on one with a land dispute between a seller (or sellers) and a buyer (or buyers) of a disputed land or house.

For those who are curious, a bank placed a PND on an account without due process, the guy understood the language of rights/liabilities, he also understood that the law does not take kindly to trampling a legal right, in less than 2 years, he was 5m richer, bank knew the judgment was solid, instead of appealing, they simply complied with the judgment of the High Court.

I will not go into the details of 10m judgment, the above example suffices.

You have a choice, go to CBN or go to the courts, it is your call.

You have a choice, use police or army to resolve a civil misunderstanding, and bear the consequences, if the other party understands the language of rights/liabilities, and also understands that the law does not take kindly to trampling a legal right, and that the police/army have no place in civil disputes, then be ready for the floodgates that will pour afterwards.

Peace.

Out.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Drdreluv: 8:14pm On Dec 27, 2021
Some after reading will still give him job smh
vanbonattel:


There's nothing you can do to this guy. He's miles ahead of his victims. Dude plans his moves ahead of getting a mugu and he unloads his format in the form of a agreement. Mugu walks in and signs his death warrant. Brabus will be drinking champagne and laughing at all of you right now. I learned this is his 12th victim?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 8:14pm On Dec 27, 2021
vanbonattel:


You have been supporting brabus, if I give you job, owo no go enter Bush so ?grin
me support who.... If you have been been following this thread you will know my stand on this issue, i don't suport any party...... Kindly give me job oh, my record here speaks of no such attitude. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 8:19pm On Dec 27, 2021
vanbonattel:


There's nothing you can do to this guy. He's miles ahead of his victims. Dude plans his moves ahead of getting a mugu and he unloads his format in the form of a agreement. Mugu walks in and signs his death warrant. Brabus will be drinking champagne and laughing at all of you right now. I learned this is his 12th victim?

This petty fraudster is not miles ahead of anyone!!!
He only relies on silence of many on this forum (and dare I say cowardice of some) to continue.

It is not a coincidence that his fraudulent activities had been limited on this forum until now.

when an unstoppable train hits an immovable object ....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:23pm On Dec 27, 2021
BrickDevo:
me support who.... If you have been been following this thread you will know my stand on this issue, i don't suport any party...... Kindly give me job oh, my record here speaks of no such attitude. grin

Sitting on the fence or defending fraud? grin

Ore mi, check ya self.

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