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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IDnoble80: 8:26pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Stopthecap: Ogami he hasn’t met his match to be honest… by now he should be cooling off somewhere in the military Barack… court will take time but sometime for someone like this real violence is needed!!! Trust me he will pay every penny owe… he is here causing people pain and he is still laughing about it…. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:26pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Drdreluv: That guy is very persuasive. They say he quotes cheapes to catch cheap ppl. I understand he answers all questions to keep himself in the headlines. Me I think he might be doing that to launder his image. You guys here should stand up and speak against every post he makes or he tarnish the sector. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 8:27pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
vanbonattel:Jesu! Please oh kindly, detached me from any memory you have that is linking me to this issue, please kindly show me where i defended anything on here, Am still in the business of providing affordable housing, without fraud.... |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 8:27pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Sighs!!! Good evening all. To those readers/users of this thread that are asking for my position on the dispute going on between @Somehow and @N3xt on the Trillion park project owned by @Somehow, this was my position then and nothing much has changed since. As a professional, I do not subscribe to dilly-dallying schemes to divert attention from the crux of the matter. I am committed only to logical, objective and amicable resolution of the dispute irrespective of the unwholesome vituperations said against my person by the contractor. We're educated enough to know the route to take if all efforts towards amicable resolution of the dispute fail. In the meantime, I want to ask you one question openly here. Fact 1: You agreed that you're owing the client some refund from contracted items of work that were not done by you. Fact 2: You disputed the amount submitted in the valuation as the amount due for refund. These two facts bring us to an unavoidable question; in your own evaluation, education, competence and intelligence, how much are you owing the client? Tell the house and let's know your side of the coin once and for all. PS: I want to use this medium to advise you to desist from making unfounded defamatory statements about my art, person and reputation on this noble thread. I am educated enough to know the appropriate route to seek redress or damages if the need be. My first post on the issue. QSFemi: 8 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:29pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
IDnoble80: The guy is a relative of the second man in this goddamn country. They'll get him out of every jam fast. Na so I hear o ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 8:32pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
n3xt: Unless the definition of smart has changed, the bolded is hilarious. What the smart people do see is a pattern of deceit spanning at least 10 years and multiple cases. Not limited to builds alone but expanded to manipulating/ posting photos with intent to deceive. I have highlighted a few already but there are many more photo stories that present a false image. QC1 , you and somehow had an exchange back in March after I resurrected N3xt / brabusng / brabus’ history; little did we know we’d be reading all these just a few months later. 9 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:34pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: If he answers this question, I will deactivate my account ![]() ![]() ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IDnoble80: 8:38pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
vanbonattel:Chei he is busy eatin semo.. no time. I will create a thread for him on the front page to make him more popular … Been searching for the old thread… if anyone has it kindly drop it. Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:39pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
MMotimo: These friends here are telling me something else ![]() They said brabus / n3xt once agreed to do a build for someone, the relatives in naija wanted him to build in their cut, he but in #2 million and then seized their money when the abroad guy paid. The sister frequented his hotel and was collecting her share in bits and pieces, when he suddenly stopped paying them in bits and stopped the building, the whole family fought themselves dirty as he leaked the beans on each party. (Stop press, I don't know what happened inside the hotel room, I wasn't there) This guy is a genius ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:40pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
n3xt: Maybe I'm not smart (and sincerely I've not followed or read what the issue is or issues are.) But what's on my head is, IS THERE ANY MONTH OR YEAR THAT YOU WON'T HAVE ISSUES TO SORT HERE? Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you as I do not know what the issue is.... BUT IF YOU ACT SMARTLY, You shd have learnt from past experiences and avoided any reoccurrence or any new issue at that. Comon N3xt, put a stop to this b4 2022...... Goodluck 9 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 8:42pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
FEGEITOK: Sir, There is no ad hominem attack on you ad hominem 1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect 2: marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made A contractual dispute is always based on the BINDING CONTRACT, and I simply pointed out that the proposal of a third party resolution cannot be legally binding to any party if it was not in the contract ab-initio. (absent a court decision) Banking relationships in Nigeria are guided by CBN guidelines that are regulated by Federal govt laws and CBN regulations(different relationships) And just like you said Police have no place in civil disputes unless ordered by a court of law. Best regards 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:43pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
saydfact: I pray he listen and yield to this… 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vanbonattel: 8:47pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
twinskenny: After his 14th clean out you are hoping he will listen? People like you voted buharri in 2019 thinking he will change. Leopards � 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Itsrm(m): 8:55pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 9:00pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
IDnoble80: Nah, the money’s long gone. Even if he wanted to pay, he simply DOES NOT HAVE IT because the path he chose long ago does not bless. No matter how many actual and fictitious projects he claims to be handling, there’s no money. If the victims were fraudsters who didn’t work for their money, N3xt would suffer no consequences but you cannot take the money of someone that does legit work and not suffer for it. Do folks realize it’s been over a decade of cursed earnings already? Imagine accumulating a crap load of curses over more than 10 years? Instead of people saying “God bless you “ they sent curses your way. How would you make headway? Still, miracles happen so maybe this will be the case where he actually pays, time will tell. I am old school so I’ll share an old school tip - Anyone that mocks/laughs at his old customers will laugh at new customers. I said this back in March/April. Someone that broke-shames the people that put food on his table is not the type of person you do business with. That’s discernment 101. Reputable businessmen do not broke-shame their clients but that is a common trait with Yahoo boys. They don’t do legit work so they have no respect for anyone’s legit sweat. As always, my message is for those that work for their money because they are the ones I can identify with. His supporters will flood here with grandiose grammar and worthless, time-wasting, money value-eroding solutions like “go to court “ but they will never give him #1 of business. They just like to watch him entertain them with pics and fabu stories and run Google to research information they need. Those supporters are always in the background, 2011, 2015, 2016, last March/April and even lately. They will say anything to keep him posting for their entertainment but you will never hear that they gave him an actual build contract. If you work for your money, the onus is on you to protect it. God no go shame us! 10 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 9:19pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Good evening to the elders and colleagues in the forum. This thread seems hot tonight. Here's just my own piece; there are still honest service providers out there, let's just do our due diligence if needed. 2022 is approaching, we want more success stories from both clients and service providers. Stay blessed. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:38pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: According to the contract, we have the sum of N1,097,675.00 to be refunded on the following works: - 15 length of 8mm diameter bar in coping - tying wire - 45m flat sheet to be laid on the parapet wall - 200sqm 0.55mm gauge longspan aluminum - Roofing tarp and accessories - Replacement of polycarbonate covering which has been initially supplied to site but damaged on site. I’ve attached the last image of the building and the damaged atrium glass which has been supplied as at 6th May 2021 long before the termination of the contract for your consideration and perusal. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 9:51pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Hi, anyone here know how long does those spot light last? Thank you.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:53pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Qc1: The two colour type? You know the name of the product? Always better to get the single colour type… either white or warm white |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 9:55pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
twinskenny: I have white and blue. I forgot the brand name. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ArchyDesmond(m): 9:56pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: If i may ask, How was he able to owe the client a substantial amount of money at almost project completion. I believe this might be due to a high percentage of Advance payment given to him. In other to protect the client, You/The client could have asked for a bank bond to avoid issues like this. Also, A monthly valuation should have been issued and the advance payment amortized effectively within the stipulated contract period. What does your contract agreement says regarding Retention and LADs? @ N3XT Your joke about enjoying semo before dignifying your client with a response and all those laughing emojis is highly insensitive and very unnecessary 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 10:01pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Good. We're getting somewhere. What about the Security House, did you owe any amount on it? If yes, how much? [quote author=n3xt post=108865064] According to the contract, we have the sum of N1,097,675.00 to be refunded on the following works: - 15 length of 8mm diameter bar in coping - tying wire - 45m flat sheet to be laid on the parapet wall - 200sqm 0.55mm gauge longspan aluminum - Roofing tarp and accessories - Replacement of polycarbonate covering which has been initially supplied to site but damaged on site. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 10:05pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Qc1:depending on the making and how steady your voltage is |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 10:06pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
I do not want to divert attention from the ongoing conversation I'm having with him here. But a short response to your points are as follows; 1) A performance bond from a reputable bank was asked to be provided but he couldn't meet up. 2) The payment method of the project was quite unusual due to unexpected inflation in the price of materials while the project was ongoing. In order to cushion that effect, we've to pay on advance so that materials could be bought and stockpiled on site. There's no retention and LAD clause in the contract. ArchyDesmond: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:06pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: I’m not owing a dime on the security house. You were too much in a hurry to terminate an ongoing project that had all its materials already purchased on ground and ready to be installed. I already gave 700k discount off the quote submitted for the fence and security house estimate. I won’t be able to do any more on that. I can provide the estimate for you to see. I know we walked this over and over and I just smiled at your submissions. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:11pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: Don’t forget we were having a fixed-sum contract and there was never a time this year that cement was sold for N3,000 or unit of 9 inches block sold at N200 which were the official rates in the contract and which I abided with up till termination of the contract. So, I made request for an upfront payment to keep my part of the bargainwhich I did. that explains why I was in a rush to get the carcass off my hook in May. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ArchyDesmond(m): 10:14pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: The bolded are obviously the root cause of the issue. I hope this reconciliation gives desired result. Cheers! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by micgray100(m): 10:16pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
n3xt: Oga N3xt... Try get the cost chart of cement all through the year from a relevant cement company to validate your cement price point through the year 2021... (Dangote has it own online) Hoping this case get solved soon... Meanwhile... To my fellow trend colleagues... Your Structural Engineering drawings of your proposed building is our job... We help provide structural drawings and solutions... ONALEK ENGINEERING LIMITED... Call or Watsapp 0703. 272894one.. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 10:19pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
twinskenny: Okay thanks Ejire.... Happy holidays! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 10:19pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Attached was the picture of the Security House taken on the 28th of September, 2021, the day I visited the site after your contract has been terminated. Did you by any chance complete the items of work you were contracted to do on it? Some of the items include; 1) Completion of Block work 2) Lintel (Concrete work, reinforcements and formwork) 3) Roofing woodwork and roofing covering (long span aluminium) As regards the bolded claim, no discount was given by you, rather you agreed to beat down your estimate to the contract amount for the Perimeter fence and Security House. n3xt: 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:24pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
QSFemi: Nicely crafted. Well here’s my submission for the fence and the security house, if you have any other document showing where I agreed to cut down my costs, please kindly provide them. I’m very sure you were not a part of this particular contract and you didn’t know what was bidded for and what wasn’t included. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:25pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Good evening house, here we are again, almost 2022 we still at where we started. Anyways, I do not wish anyone loses money or clients but as an Old member of this thread and was there from DAY one, I will like to say this, if I was Admin, in 2022, if anyone comes on here to complain about n3xt,I would place them on a BAN if anyone thinks my response is insensitive by all means quote me, I have a very good reason! 3 Likes |
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