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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 8:38am On Dec 27, 2021

[quote author=mctfopt

The batteries are in absorption now. I've taken the measurement three times now with digital Meter, two batteries read 14.4v and the other two read 14.3v

Voltmeter reading now are 14.4v, 14.3v, 13.9v and 14.3v.

The digital meter reading and that of voltmeter should be the same, but they are not.

I'll charge the battery individually and check it again tomorrow.
Thanks

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by isangjohnson: 9:06am On Dec 27, 2021

I mean 14.4v each and 14.3v each. That's 14.4v, 14.4v, 14.3v and 14.3v from the digital meter.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by smallsmall: 9:08am On Dec 27, 2021

AndroBlaze:

....
Anyone buying batteries should always have at least an independent multimeter (1k5) to be able to check voltage for yourself especially when brand new. So if you follow the above and pull 50 amps in 5hours and your setup reads less than 12v, then your battery capacity has been misrepresented. Though it would probably be best for you to separate the batteries and test individually; thus pulling 25AH in 5 hours from each battery.

To be honest, I think you should return the battery if you can still get your money back. Go for tried and trusted brands people have used on this forum.

At the bolded:
What do you do, if like it happened in an instance, the Seller was selling a Well-Used battery as New one.
He kept it on charge, just before the Buyer arrives.
Buyer came in and measured the voltage and it was well within acceptable limits.
A few days after purchase, Buyer has been noticing that the Battery does not Hold-up for more than One hour (when it should hold-up through-out the night, based on Load value applied and Battery specification).

My Question (to you and other Gurus in the House):
-Did the Voltage Check help the buyer?
- What other Checks/Method can a buyer perform on a Battery, at the point of purchase, to ensure that he is not being sold Lemon, for a New battery?

This will help everyone, as the market is full of reconditioned, dead batteries nowadays.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 9:13am On Dec 27, 2021

Good morning.

So based on the drag about "Idle Consumption" and "No Load Consumption" grin

Just got to the workshop now and I'm about to make a test now. A bench power supply as the Battery and my 24v 800/1600w PSW Transformerless inverter.

Not sure if I can upload a video directly here. If not, I'll do very good pictures.

cc Dam5reey , Dollarnaira

*** seems uploading video directly isn't possible here. I dont have a YT channel. Would lookup a way to present a video.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Madeu(m): 9:46am On Dec 27, 2021

Do any one recommend buying luminous tubular battery especially the ones sold on jumia?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 10:00am On Dec 27, 2021

So I have decided to use GiF and Photos for interpreting results.

Picture 1
The 2 test apparatus with their leads laid out.

Picture 2

Connect the battery to the inverter when it's off. Noticed the quick 0.05A draw then down to 0.00A. That's the capacitor getting charged.

Picture 3
The inverter (still off) connected to the battery. Power Supply detects 0.00A draw.

Picture 4
The inverter turned on with "No Load" Power supply reads 0.56A.

(My Opinion)
There isn't and shouldn't be consumption for an inverter when it is in OFF state. Also, there isn't any term for it.

The terms "Idle Consumption" and "No Load Consumption" is the same consumption with different pronunciation.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ewizard1: 10:18am On Dec 27, 2021

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babaegun(m): 10:25am On Dec 27, 2021

SOLD! SOLD!! SOLD!!!

babaegun:

@All

I have about 10 units of 250 - 260W Felicity/My Home Solar Panels for sale. They are all in good working condition. I just upgraded my solar panels.

Each one is for N26k each.

If you are interested, kindly contact me on zero eight zero three............. .

NB: The buyer will be responsible for the transportation to its final destination.

Current Location of the Panels = Wumba, Apo, Abuja

Thank you.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 10:45am On Dec 27, 2021

ewizard1:
Good morning.

So based on the drag about "Idle Consumption" and "No Load Consumption"

Just got to the workshop now and I'm about to make a test now. A bench power supply as the Battery and my 24v 800/1600w PSW Transformerless inverter.

Not sure if I can upload a video directly here. If not, I'll do very good pictures.

cc Dam5reey , Dollarnaira

*** seems uploading video directly isn't possible here. I dont have a YT channel. Would lookup a way to present a video.

Thanks a lot, Just like the spec sheet states < 0.5 A

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 11:14am On Dec 27, 2021

mctfopt:

If you have a 12v charger, consider paralleling all the 4 batteries and charging it overnight. It once solved an issue a friend had with his four 200ah lead acid batteries.

But if after this you still continued having different voltages, you may consider running a battery test as one or two of the batteries may be failing.

A crude way to run a battery test that I've seen work several times is to fully charge the batteries, put a load of about 500w on the inverter and wait for the inverter to indicate battery low, quickly measure the battery terminal voltage. If any of the battery dropped to below 10.5v, you may consider such battery bad.

isangjohnson: in addition to the good advice above.

A hybrid inverter with inbuilt cc would have been the best for you. Most hybrids have idle consumption of 20 to 50w, that behemoth inverter you have there is known to have idle draw of 120 to 150w. When you multiply by 24hrs..you realize that what you have is only 2.5batts as the idle consumption is sapping the energy of 1.5batts.

If you can locate a pulse repair charger. Connect Ur batts in parallel and pulse for 48hrs. If you can't afford that, you could try using it inline while the inverter is working..moving from one battery to another..48 hrs per battery...n repeat

Lastly, you can buy a batt load tester usually sold by battery sellers. Connect to each battery and check the voltage, .

You can conduct the test when the batt is reading 14.3v and above.. remember to turn off the cc charging breaker, when doing this test

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojesymsym: 11:39am On Dec 27, 2021

I agree with the bolded as that has been my own experience too. You could even notice the battery voltage gain up to 0.3 increase in volts when you switch off the inverter when not in use.

I like your workshop, na workshop wen de non de do anything na em de look organised

ewizard1:
So I have decided to use GiF and Photos for interpreting results.

Picture 1
The 2 test apparatus with their leads laid out.

Picture 2

Connect the battery to the inverter when it's off. Noticed the quick 0.05A draw then down to 0.00A. That's the capacitor getting charged.

Picture 3
The inverter (still off) connected to the battery. Power Supply detects 0.00A draw.

Picture 4
The inverter turned on with "No Load" Power supply reads 0.56A.

(My Opinion)
There isn't and shouldn't be consumption for an inverter when it is in OFF state. Also, there isn't any term for it.

The terms "Idle Consumption" and "No Load Consumption" is the same consumption with different pronunciation.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 12:58pm On Dec 27, 2021

ewizard1:
So I have decided to use GiF and Photos for interpreting results.

Picture 1
The 2 test apparatus with their leads laid out.

Picture 2

Connect the battery to the inverter when it's off. Noticed the quick 0.05A draw then down to 0.00A. That's the capacitor getting charged.

Picture 3
The inverter (still off) connected to the battery. Power Supply detects 0.00A draw.

Picture 4
The inverter turned on with "No Load" Power supply reads 0.56A.

(My Opinion)
There isn't and shouldn't be consumption for an inverter when it is in OFF state. Also, there isn't any term for it.

The terms "Idle Consumption" and "No Load Consumption" is the same consumption with different pronunciation.

Thank you very much for making credible efforts to clear the air. Much appreciated.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 1:08pm On Dec 27, 2021

Dam5reey:

Thanks a lot, Just like the spec sheet states < 0.5 A

You missed the point.

From his experiment, he has just debunked the emphatic position you took yesterday that an inverter that is SWITCHED OFF consumes power/energy continuously. Also, it is now clear that you were mixing up "idle state" with "No Load state" yesterday.

We hope you can take the same correction you wanted someone else to take yesterday.

Anyways, each time I come here to read posts, I do with an open mind and a learner's mindset. Ready to learn and take corrections coz I hold everyone here in high esteem. I encourage everyone here to do the same as well so that we can all learn.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by sintolord(m): 1:54pm On Dec 27, 2021

Dear Odimbannamdi, different company will make/design there inverter differently. My mother's Schneider inverter while switched off display this light(see the first picture). The source of the power of the light is not spiritual but from the battery. See the second picture while the same inverter was switched on. What Dam5reey said is true & valid for some inverter.

odimbannamdi:

You missed the point.

From his experiment, he has just debunked the emphatic position you took yesterday that an inverter that is SWITCHED OFF consumes power/energy continuously. Also, it is now clear that you were mixing up "idle state" with "No Load state" yesterday.

We hope you can take the same correction you wanted someone else to take yesterday.

Anyways, each time I come here to read posts, I do with an open mind and a learner's mindset. Ready to learn and take corrections coz I hold everyone here in high esteem. I encourage everyone here to do the same as well so that we can all learn.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 2:01pm On Dec 27, 2021

sintolord:
Dear Odimbannamdi, different company will make/design there inverter differently. My mother's Schneider inverter while switched off display this light(see the first picture). The source of the power of the light is not spiritual but from the battery. See the second picture while the same inverter was switched on. What Dam5reey said is true & valid for some inverter.

Thanks for the clarification, Oga Sintolord. cheesy

.it definitely varies from inverter to inverter and not a given for ALL inverters. What just took me off was the assertive tone with which he took the position, and the whole terminology mix up. I honestly was beginning to get worried coz I don't don't a large battery bank like most of our Ogas here... grin

..Make my meter land so that I can perform my own test.

Thanks again for your contribution.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by smallsmall: 3:02pm On Dec 27, 2021

Abeg, all these snide remarks and ego-tripping is not helping the thread and nor contributing to knowledge base.
We should end the discussion at this point.

Happy New Year in advance to everybody

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 3:53pm On Dec 27, 2021

ewizard1:
So I have decided to use GiF and Photos for interpreting results.

Picture 1
The 2 test apparatus with their leads laid out.

Picture 2

Connect the battery to the inverter when it's off. Noticed the quick 0.05A draw then down to 0.00A. That's the capacitor getting charged.

Picture 3
The inverter (still off) connected to the battery. Power Supply detects 0.00A draw.

Picture 4
The inverter turned on with "No Load" Power supply reads 0.56A.

(My Opinion)
There isn't and shouldn't be consumption for an inverter when it is in OFF state. Also, there isn't any term for it.

The terms "Idle Consumption" and "No Load Consumption" is the same consumption with different pronunciation.

Thanks for the above, you u done well in creating time for this.

But Will u get same 0.56A with a clamp meter?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 5:38pm On Dec 27, 2021

odimbannamdi:

Thanks for the clarification, Oga Sintolord. .it definitely varies from inverter to inverter and not a given for ALL inverters. What just took me off was the assertive tone with which he took the position, and the whole terminology mix up. I honestly was beginning to get worried coz I don't don't a large battery bank like most of our Ogas here... ..Make my meter land so that I can perform my own test.

Thanks again for your contribution.

I already explained this yesterday.. ✌️

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 5:52pm On Dec 27, 2021

odimbannamdi:

Thanks for the clarification, Oga Sintolord. .it definitely varies from inverter to inverter and not a given for ALL inverters. What just took me off was the assertive tone with which he took the position, and the whole terminology mix up. I honestly was beginning to get worried coz I don't don't a large battery bank like most of our Ogas here... ..Make my meter land so that I can perform my own test.

Thanks again for your contribution.

Honestly, I am not proving right or Wrong.. I am open to New discovery too..

As you can see, Na Third party helped out in clearing the air.. I was partially correct with proofs...

See I have Energy meter, Bench power supply, but I no get energy to repeat test I have done several times...

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Thunderbolt: 5:59pm On Dec 27, 2021

Dear House,

Please I am trying to get true 250w or 350w solar panels (used or new).
Please could someone kindly advice me on how to go about it.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dishtech(m): 6:58pm On Dec 27, 2021

babaegun:

SOLD! SOLD!! SOLD!!!

Thank you so much I really appreciate doing business with you! I got home safely.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babaegun(m): 10:04pm On Dec 27, 2021

Dishtech:

Thank you so much I really appreciate doing business with you! I got home safely.

You are welcome my brother !

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 8:00am On Dec 28, 2021

Tesla to buy Mercedes Benz shocked

My dear Benz.

This will propel Tesla to majorly manufacturing on three continents of Asia, North America and Europe.

While VW made a quick entrance into Battery Electric Vehicle space, BMW and Mercedes Benz were foot dragging.

Now the greatest fear of legacy automakers being taken over by electric startups is unveiling.

2022 is gonna be pretty exciting in the electric vehicle space. I seriously hope we can begin investing in this sector (I for one won't mind owing a purely BEV - not even hybrid). If tesla is outside reach at the moment, BYD is one Electric car company that is promising to make owing a BEV a walk in the park. It can at least help in short distance commutez in the light of the useless fuel price hike that is soon to bedevil the citizens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJBaxUg67S8

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Harryfrosh: 8:02am On Dec 28, 2021

New to inverter stuff.. Have interest and I need quotation for 2 different set up... So I can know what to budget.

1, smart TV LED 32 inches and dstv ... 8 pieces of energy saving bulbs... 1 standing fan and 1 ceiling fan... And charging a laptop and phones

2, a fridge the fridge is a single door fridge... smart TV LED 32 inches and dstv ... 8 pieces of energy saving bulbs... 1 standing fan and 1 ceiling fan... And charging a laptop and phones

I'll be glad if I can know what to budget for dis 2 different set up... Tnx

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 10:27pm On Dec 28, 2021

ceaser:
Tesla to buy Mercedes Benz My dear Benz.

This will propel Tesla to majorly manufacturing on three continents of Asia, North America and Europe.

While VW made a quick entrance into Battery Electric Vehicle space, BMW and Mercedes Benz were foot dragging.

Now the greatest fear of legacy automakers being taken over by electric startups is unveiling.

2022 is gonna be pretty exciting in the electric vehicle space. I seriously hope we can begin investing in this sector (I for one won't mind owing a purely BEV - not even hybrid). If tesla is outside reach at the moment, BYD is one Electric car company that is promising to make owing a BEV a walk in the park. It can at least help in short distance commutez in the light of the useless fuel price hike that is soon to bedevil the citizens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJBaxUg67S8

The purchase is still a "maybe" but no doubt EV is the present and future. We look forward to when any of those EV cars will be within a range of an average Nigerian

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by temmyt20(m): 10:58pm On Dec 28, 2021

Good evening house.
Any expert in the house that can assist with a quote for a solar setup with 100ah battery.
Inverter of 500w
Solar panel.
Setup will be used to power appliances not up to 100watts

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 11:06pm On Dec 28, 2021

temmyt20:
Good evening house.
Any expert in the house that can assist with a quote for a solar setup with 100ah battery.
Inverter of 500w
Solar panel.
Setup will be used to power appliances not up to 100watts

Budget 200k..

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 7:00am On Dec 29, 2021

Dam5reey:

Budget 200k..

If he is to do it well then he needs more than 200k.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by temmyt20(m): 8:02am On Dec 29, 2021

ojeysky:

If he is to do it well then he needs more than 200k.

can you please explain better?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by temmyt20(m): 8:03am On Dec 29, 2021

Dam5reey:

Budget 200k..

exact budget I av in mind.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OkoroPeugeot(m): 8:03am On Dec 29, 2021

For those with experience using budget PWM controllers

I had a setup with 24v panel and 12v battery with a 30A pwm controller.

It was working properly but I read charging would be faster from here if everything matches so I got a 24v inverter and 24v battery.

Normally the arrow on the controller blinks but now in the morning the panel icon comes up and the arrow just stays steady and the battery voltage barely increases all day.

The controller has 12/24v so I'm confused. Has anybody experienced this?

(ps. I know I should upgrade to mppt and would do that when I get funds or an mppt fan dashes me

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by gadgetplanetng: 8:05am On Dec 29, 2021

temmyt20:
can you please explain better?

Brand new, top tier items
Pure sine wave inverter and breakers, fuses, etc I believe

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